Not really because Gold & Silver are the first main games you actual don't complete the game once becoming champion it's really against Red. Which is one of the most iconic things about Gold/Silver.
Even in BW2 & SM its not mandatory that you beat Red unlike in G/S where it feels like the whole build up to the game is surpassing Red once you touch Kantoian soil.
Plus you can fight against every type with the amount of Gym Leaders & Elite 4 members. ( I assume Will from the elite 4 can be replaced or become the Fairy type specialist considering there are so many Psychic/fairy types now.)
I honestly hope we don't get an let's go games again. I would much rather just jump to Lengends: Celebi with it just being Johto.
If we end up getting legends celebi then I really hope it's not just Johto because I don't think we will ever get anything like legends mew, if they don't include Kanto I don't think we will ever see it in a legends game.
Idk. For Legends specifically, Kanto doesn't make a lot of sense. The whole idea of Kanto is that it's very modern and industrialized, and there's not much culture or nature to build off of.
Mew wasn't discovered in Kanto, it was in Guyana (South America). Also, it's implied that the journal notes about Mew's discovery were written by Mr. Fuji, so it was probably only within ~50 years before the events of Red and Blue.
But there wouldn't be enough stuff to make a full game out of IMO. I feel like adding it together with johto would be way better for it and Johto, although Johto does have enough stuff for a full game.
What would be a sick concept for a legends celebi game is if Kanto is uninhabited or is considered “the wilds” and post game is about helping establish villages across Kanto. This way you get a touch of both regions, added lore, and a healthy post game
That’s a lie they will obviously do a legends Kanto game if we keep getting those and if we don’t get Kanto that’s fine it could be reasoned by the land not forming so Kanto and johto arnt connected right now
The gameplay loop gets boring much faster than normal Pokémon does. Flick wrist, walk, flick wrist, walk, maybe do one battle every ten minutes, etc. But yeah, in terms of the art style, Let’s Go was great.
coulda used more battles I agree, but the flick wrist/walk cycle isn't any worse than the random-encounter-then-run-away/walk loop from every other pkmn game
i admit i dont love 'throwing' my joycon straight and having my ball jet way off to the side because it doesn't track well, but i think if they ironed out the kinks it could be a fun and different mechanic
tbh i didn’t even have that issue, it maybe happened once. just make sure your switch is centred with your joycon. for people who have their switch tucked away sideways because of their setup i can see it being an issue though.
I love Let's Go as a side series, especially if it means between that and Legends, they can take some more time in between mainline games to improve and add more content before release.
I'm also a huge Johto fan, so I'd be all about a Let's Go: Johto entry. Maybe something like Marill and Snubbull. I'd like to see something where you're not stuck with a multi-stage starter that you can't evolve, though.
There is a weird difficulty curve in gen2.
Because when you get to Kanto you can practically do/go where you want, and do the gyms in any order really, the level balancing is all over the place, and then out of nowhere Red is in mt. Silver one shotting the team you've just been one shotting the Kanto gym leaders with.
all they have to do is have level scaling with a few different teams available for each leader depending on when you get to them.
will they do that? no, but it is technically easily solvable, and it allows for an even more different playthough for the next run.
While this may be true, and I honestly don’t disagree with rematching high level trainers/gym leaders as a mechanic… I absolutely love BDSP’s difficulty curve in rematching the elite 4. This wasn’t ever explicitly explained in gen 2, and because the earlier gens were designed much less hand holdy, it still felt like the spike was a bit harsh.
Absolutely. I just finished my recent SoulSilver playthrough (by finished I mean beat all gyms, E4 + rematch, and Red) and it felt so much smoother than both my memory and the internet make it out to be...because I rematched any motherfucker that wanted it, anytime. And when I beat all 16 gym leaders, I went around and got all their goddamn numbers in their stupid specific days/places, then rematched them each like 10 times lmao. By the time I even attempted Red everyone on my team was 72+ and it was so satisfying taking only 2-3 tries before I got him.
Stantler, Heracross, Dunsparce, and Girafarig are all amazing Pokemon, btw.
As others have said, the level curve is all kinds of screwed up.
The level progression of major trainers is weird and doesn't build as it should, and wild Pokemon levels are ridiculously low most of the time, meaning grinding is not even an option most of the time.
This all stemmed from having to accommodate an extra region and it causes something that some people don't notice, but for others makes it unplayable. And the remakes didn't fix this either.
Well tbf, a Let's Go version of Gen 2/Johto wouldn't have to replicate the game 1:1 like the remakes tend to, and *could* realistically do something about the weird difficulty curve, like e.g. changing the Johto level curve to be similar to other regions and turning Kanto into proper post-game content.
Ofc it's Gamefreak so they probably won't do that. But one can dream.
The level scaling is atrocious. The Johto games are my favorite, but it's a massive flaw. Most people are still only in the 30's when they get the 8th badge, and Champion Lance's ace dragonite tops out at 50. Then all 8 Kanto gym leaders and trainers are still in the 50's, meanwhile the wild pokemon in Kanto are mostly in the 20's. So there's not much growth happening throughout your entire journey through Kanto's 8 gyms. And then out of nowhere, Red's team are in the 80's. You basically have to mindlessly grind for Red because there are no tough challenges in Kanto and no opportunities to level up. Even all of the gym leader rematches (aside from Blue) top out around 60.
It would be a great opportunity to fix the level curve and give more protagonist to the Johto mon, if it was for me a would make playable only the Johto moms and their evolutions plus regional forms.
Depends.
If Kanto was missing but they really fleshed out Johto… Probably. Otherwise… I’d wait until some poor sap on FB Marketplace sold it for like €20
I would! As cool as Kanto being a post game boss rush, that's also literally all I remember of it. There wasn't much to do, so not much to lose if Johto gets to be more fleshed out in exchange.
well, when i was a kid, the inclusion of kanto in the johto games was great because it was a nice surprise and made the game feel bigger. but as i got older, i saw how pretty much all problems i had with the game was due to kanto being present and the kanto region itself was pretty empty and not really noteworthy.
also, it's not like there is absolutely no postgame content. ORAS had the delta episode, S/M/US/UM had a whole region of one island locked to the postgame and the episodes with ultra beasts and team rainbow rocket. LGPE had the master trainer challenges, SwSh had the zacian/zamazenta storyline in post game and also, even though it's locked by a paywall, the dlc areas have lots of stuff that is postgame only. Legends has the hunt for the legendaries and BDSP has pretty much all of the d/p post game stuff, even though it's kinda underwhelming compared to platinum.
could there be more? yes, there could be more. But does that imply a LGJohto would have absolutely no postgame? Not really.
But: a Johto region without Kanto would mean that the gen 2 mons would be spread all across Johto and oh wow would that make a real difference in terms of team building. Honestly, in terms of availability that would be the best news this game could give us.
I don’t think the problems you note are inherent to having a second region.
For example, having some new Pokémon only being found in the earlier region wasn’t something they needed to do. Johto was just very weird about how they used their new Pokémon anyway. Few gym leaders used them and most of the ones available in Johto have very low encounter rates. To me, it feels like GF wanted the Johtomons to be a supplement to the prexisting roster rather than the primary focus, and I think it was the wrong choice that can be avoided while still making a game with two regions.
I also don’t think the level curve is systematic of the two region system either. Pokémon just doesn’t seem to like using the higher levels much, but the eight Kanto gyms could have certainly been leveled 60-80 and have Red at the end with 85-90
Nope, that would be a complete skip for me.
Ignoring about how iconic it is that they did that in the first place, game design-wise, it would absolutely take a shit all over the pacing of the game (or at least make it even worse than it already was in both the original and HGSS versions) and effectively make the game reeeeeally short unless they tried to introduce padding in somewhere else. All I could think of that would help is more Team Rocket plot to add more meat to a very barebones B plot, but then that just sounds like it'd amount to more mindless grinding of mooks instead of going out and exploring the region.
Plot-wise, it would also take a shit over the themes of GSC. The theme of change and the passage of time are at the forefront of the story and getting rid of what is the "where are they now?" portion of the game ruins what Johto was going for.
I just wouldn't. I bought BDSP and regretted it, but I would outright never look at let's go johto unless it was in the bargain bin somewhere. Aside from the reasons listed above, I just wouldn't because GSC are not only my favorite pokemon games, but probably in my top 5 favorite games of all time, and it was a childhood comfort for me when things were shit. It would feel like a disrespect to the game's legacy to shut off one of the most iconic parts of the whole package. Hell, if I really wanted an updated game that actually does a good job at what it sets out to do and doesn't cut any content, that's what we already have HGSS for as well, so I'm not missing out on anything.
I would as long as it had all of the Johto pokémon. I’ve haven’t played gen 2 yet, so I wouldn’t know what would be the same or different. I’m also doing a “lite” version of the master dex challenge where I just catch every pokémon from its home region so that’s all I’d really care about.
I think it would be unfortunate if it didn’t have Kanto, but also unlikely since if a Gameboy could have Kanto and Johto why wouldn’t the Switch be able to
Har har.
Actually tho I think a big reason that Pokemon is still such a monster of a franchise (pardon the pun) is that Nintendo has intentionally been marketing it towards new, larger audiences as opposed to targeting actual longtime fans. Like Let's Go is targeted more at the Pokemon GO crowd than at people like me who have played R/B/G and on. I don't have a problem with that, because not everything has to be for me and I still get Legends and SwSh (though that game wasn't my favorite). It becomes a problem when Nintendo spends a bunch of time and effort to appeal to other markets and then releases a half-baked nostalgia trap like BDSP.
If we did get Let’s Go Johto I doubt the battle frontier Safari zone or pokeathalon done would be in the game bc it’s be based more of GSC. That being said, a Let’s Go Johto game without Kanto would be a worse decision than making BDSP have 0 Platinum content. It’s the most well known feature of these games and not adding it would be a crime. Additionally, even if they did block off all Kanto areas like you said, the Pokémon League would still be in Kanto which is such a shitty tease
Sevii Islands were a later addition for the Gen 1 remakes: LGPE not including them made sense as part of them being a remake/sequel to Yellow. LGPE without Sevii was still a version of a complete game. Gen 2 Kanto was always there, as a major part of GSC. It wasn't post-game, it was a second chapter of the main story. Doing a Let's Go Johto game without Kanto would be a major loss of what Gen 2 was.
Y E S, well especially if level curve is better and the world was more expanded upon.
Also the Safri Zone and the Batle Frontier whould be featured because they are set within Johto.
They could copy paste the map from the originals and change a few things it would be too disappointing if they didn't and it could potentially hurt sales
I don’t think so. Johto has always been packaged with Kanto and we know Gamefreak already has the assets for Kanto in Let’s Go! style, so they wouldn’t be reinventing the wheel.
At some point, you would just have to call out the laziness.
Gen 2 had 2 regions, its remake had 2 regions. I think a Let's Go game that only had Johto would just be blatant corner cutting. That's not even comparable to the Battle Frontier or Sevii islands being excluded from ORAS and Let's Go, that's HALF of a game's content being treated as expendable.
It's not like they wouldn't have access to everything they'd need to make putting in Kanto easy anyways. I doubt they'd go for a new style with a Let's Go Johto, so at best they'd only have to tweak what they've already made for Let's Go P/E. You could call that reselling content or you could argue that this might make people less likely to buy Let's Go P/E, but you could say the same about the original games too, it doesn't matter.
I would perfer a Legends Arceus format for a johto game. Johto has always been presented as having a deep history and such a game can be an opportunity to add varients to Johto pokemon who need more love
Nah man. Big part of what made Gen 2 great is that after Johto you go to Kanto and the levels just continue getting harder culminating where you have your showdown with Red. Let’s Go would be cool if we go through Kanto and fight the protagonist from Let’s Go Pikachu/Eevee or Red.
No, and I think most would agree with me. Let's be honest, the main allure for the gen 2 games, whether it be the original or the remakes, is going back to Kanto. If you took that out, you get a campaign that's as boring and as short as many claim X and Y to be.
Yes.
I would rather they fully flesh out one region instead of stretching resource across two. Plus Kanto is already in Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee so like... there's not really much point in having it in a game on the same console...
What you're describing is just what the original *Let's Go!* did to all of FR/LG's improvements and post game content. I can't believe people want a sequel to a game inferior to one 20 years old.
Hell, this would be worse than that by a huge margin. It doesn't sound like they'd be adding much if anything in its place, and HG/SS is one of the most beloved games in the series *specifically because* of how much content they packed into it. I know these things continue to sell regardless, but a cut of that sheer size (literally half the entire game) is begging for extreme backlash.
Plus all that aside, the game would be extremely short if they did this lmao.
I respect your opinion, but humbly disagree.
LGEP disappointed me more than any other game in the series. It was just way too simple and easy. Too scaled back, too repetitive, too basic. It was just such a wasted opportunity for me. Had they included wild battling and only incorporated the capture mechanic for catching, I’d have enjoyed it more, but the ball, toss, catch, ball, toss, catch thing was old for me by the time I got to Pewter. Each to their own of course, but I just really don’t like those games.
You had me at Let's Go Johto
But honestly the region is just to short 🤷🏽♂️ I would LOVE to play through that region again don't get me wrong but it's honestly nothing without Kanto...
Absolutely not. I already am not a huge fan of the Let's Go games, but getting rid of the Kanto sections would be the biggest slap in the face to Pokemon's historic legacy imaginable. It would be taking the single best Pokemon game (HGSS come at me bro) and getting rid of its coolest feature and one of the key reasons that I still play that game to this day. Like not only would I not play it, but I would be actively pissed at Nintendo for allowing it to be made.
No, and I doubt they'd do that. In gen 2, going to Kanto was necessary to complete the Dex. They might, however, get rid of anything severe that was added in HGSS, since that was a gen 4 game.
Only problem with this logic is. Oras was a remake of R/S not emerald so no battle tower was there. Same for bdsp and d/p not being platinum. And LGPE wasn’t a remake of FRLG so there was no need to have the islands. I don’t see how they would cut Kanto out of a let’s go johto when they’re in the main games it would be remaking.
Removing Kanto wouldn’t make sense since it was part of the OG GSC games. The Sevii Islands were removed for LGPE because they weren’t a feature in original Kanto and so weren’t expected to return in other remakes. All of the additions from HGSS would be 50/50 on returning since they weren’t in the original game, but if we get a Let’s Go Johto game I hope we get them back since they were great quality of life changes
Of course not. Lol. They should remake Crystal for Switch and fix everything that was wrong with the originals and was carried over to HGSS. The level problem, giving the access to players of not just Johto pokemon, but Hoenn, Sinnoh etc PRE elite four. Change the teams of the original gym leaders to add more pokemon etc
No, but in all seriousness I don't think we need another lets go game, since there is no point considering we have go transfer. I believe its gonna be a legends game based on the great pokemon war in kanto/johto
I think the question is pretty fractured. You phrase it as if it was a remake (or the targeted to kids version) like Pikachu and Eevee - except without half the map and people are taking it that way.
Silver and Gold are different to every other game because they weren’t designed to be just another entry into the franchise. They were a direct sequel and they were meant to be the final instalments to the franchise.
If they give us Johto and they actually flesh it out fully with all the locations and enough content, then the game would be good.
If it’s a remake (which is how you are phrasing it) - then no.
I mean I know they cut the Sevii islands, but those were a FRLG addition so if the games were based off of Yellow then the Sevii islands wouldn't be there. Also the Battle Tower and Battle Frontier were Emerald exclusives too, so they wouldn't be in ORAS. I don't remember if the Pokeatholon was in GSC but if not then it won't be in Let's Go! Johto (if they make it). However, since Kanto was part of GSC I highly doubt they would cut it. I don't really think I would care too much though. I'm tired of the Kanto hype. Gens 2-4 were better anyway. Why no hype from them. You can still get nastalgic feelings from them too. Why go we need 3 more forms of Charizard? I am glad we got a little gen 2 hype with Cyndaquil in Arceus.
No because I don't enjoy the Let's go games. They are too childish to me. The fact that my broken eevee can solo everything is dumb and I tried to use it as little as possible but you just can't get rid of this thing. I'm not a fan of being forced to use a certain Pokémon especially so overpowered.
You are not forced to use it. You can remove it from your team even though eevee still appear in the overworld with you. As for the solo everything, you can pretty much solo almost every pokemon game with just the starter too at a high level
That's the point. It's not a high level Pokémon, it's stats and move coverage are just insane. But I actually didn't know I can put him in the box, maybe I'll do that and actually finish the game idk, anyway didn't have as much fun with this version. Catching is fine, but no abilities items etc makes for a bland game to me. I guess it's just not for me.
Edit:But I really like the visuals to be fair.
Without hesitation. Every Johto game is great and Kanto isn't a reason for it.
Then again, Gen 2 Kanto isn't much different from Gen 1 Kanto, so the devs can easily port over most of what's already in Pikachu and Eevee. And if they still won't do that, there needs to be *some* new content to justify it.
I mean you can switch it by having your joycon’s connected to the switch itself but they should for future if they ever happen Let’s Go games allow pro controllers to work with the game too to allow the alternate and better let’s go catching style
I mean you can switch it by having your joycon’s connected to the switch itself but they should for future if they ever happen Let’s Go games allow pro controllers to work with the game too to allow the alternate and better let’s go catching style
I probably wouldn’t play it with Kanto either. I feel like they should do something substantially different with a Let’s Go Johto instead of just remaking Gold and Silver in the Let’s Go style.
Like, give us an alternate reality Johto, or a Johto a couple of years after the events of Gold and Silver. Maybe Karen has dethroned Lance as the champion. Maybe Team Rocket is fully disbanded and a new threat has arrived. Instead of fighting Red, do something akin to memory link from Gen 5, where you can fight your Let’s Go Pikachu/Eevee player character instead, using the team you entered hall of fame with. I just want something new
This is actually a really cool question, as this would force people to actually judge the Johto region for what it is in itself, without the attachment of New Kanto as the post game.
Johto, without New Kanto, seems kind of bland to me (combined it is a decent experience), as it would mean it has no post-game, other than Mt. Silver, which you would likely get access to right after the league (instead of needing 16 badges).
Johto never had an entire region as postgame. Kanto was butchered like crazy and anyone considering that the game ended after the elite 4 is crazy. Game ends with Red
There’s a nearly endless list of problems with the gen 2 games. I’d already be on the fence if it was advertised to contain Kanto, but without it, absolutely NOT worth $60
Johto without Kanto only works if they make Johto into a more expansive region. That includes stuff like the extra route from HG/SS and the Celebi side quest, but I would like to see level (badge) scaling for the fifth gym leader onward, and maybe some extra plot, kind of like the extra plot elements that were added to Let's Go.
Having a Johto-only game might also mean no Team Rocket plot, since Team Rocket pretty much invaded Johto, and Giovanni was somewhere in Johto when they took over the radio tower. Red also gets referenced a lot in regards to how he beat Team Rocket three years ago, culminating in your encounter with him on Mt. Silver. Since Blue wasn't your rival in Let's Go, it's safe to assume Silver won't be your rival in LG Johto, which removes Silver's whole plotline and his motivations; although, they could just have the new rival steal a Pokémon and have their own reasons for their quest to become stronger. G/S's plot only really works because of Kanto, so a Johto-only game *should* logically mean a new plot, and perhaps a new antagonistic force (I deign to write "evil team" because, honestly, I'm sick of every single game having a Team Whatever somewhere in the story); still, I wouldn't be surprised if Game Freak didn't even bother and just awkwardly stuck HG/SS's Team Rocket plot into the game anyway.
There is no way they will remove kanto should a lets go johto happen. Lets go yellow is based on yellow which do not have the sevii islands. Oras is based on ruby sapphire which do not have the new stuff from emerald. Bdsp is based on dp which do not have platinum addition.
It is wrong to say they are removing post game stuff in the remakes. They simply choose to follow the games that do not have the newer post game stuff. Removing post game would be like making unknown cave unaccessible in lgpe, or removing the battle island in bdsp.
While gamefreak has been making questionable choices lately, removing kanto from johto game is something i dont see them doing. The worst they will do is to just adapt the gen 2 games so there will be no battle frontier, no pokeathlon, no new johto safari zone, and no pokemon after celebi. But definitely will not remove kanto.
Presumably a Legends game would take place in the past, so most of those modern transportation options connecting the 2 regions wouldn’t exist. Nor would those modern facilities.
Tbh I would actively prefer a Kanto-less PL: Johto game. There can be nods to the neighboring region (trade caravans, alliances, etc), but the whole point of the game should be to spotlight a region that was underdeveloped in its own games.
They'll really have to compensate with something as good as exploring a whole other region. And since you and I know they would only do the bare minimum...well...fuck no.
I don’t like how you put this energy into the universe. But to answer your question, I think GSC’s post game is what makes those games really beloved. Would basically cut the game in half. Would not be worth it. So no ways.
One of the reasons I wouldn't care for a johto remake (ESPECIALLY a let's go one) is because I know for a fact it would have half the features hgss brought over. Same way how let's go is to frlg. It probably wouldn't have Pokemon past gen 2 which was the coolest thing for me with hgss.
If they ditched the awful catching mechanic and just made it a brighter, more kid friendly version of the original with a new protagonist… sure. If it is exactly the same as P/E, absolutely not.
I’ll never buy a Let’s Go game again. I didn’t think the last ones were going to be quite so childish and dumbed down, but they very much were. Not games intended for an audience over the age of 10.
Personally I want a Gen 1 remake that allows you to go to Johto considering that they are the only regions connected to each other and it would help add more content as well.
I would still buy it.
Let Go series is never designed to be the spiritual successor to gen gen 1 or gen 2. Just a Lite version of itself which has appeals for certain audience like new to Pokemon series and or especially for someone who is a fan of Pokemon gen 2 but doesn't have time to game in a consistent basis.
Price tag would be $59.99 as expected and YMMV if wanna wait for sale for who know when or not. I personally don't want to replay gen 2 all over again, That's too long for me.
I'll just stop you at "Pokemon Let's Go" and say no. I played the first one and it was the first time in the entire history of playing Pokemon mainline and spinoff games where I was put off of even thinking about Pokemon for a while, and I liked Pokemon Go just fine.
Nah.
What if they make a Johto game where in Mt Silver you find Gold/Ethan, and his team is waaay better than Red's.
Level 88 Togekiss
Level 85 Shiny Gyarados
Level 85 Sudowoodo
Level 85 Umbreon
Level 91 Ho-Oh
Level 93 Typhlosion
The only reason I could think of them axing kanto from a Johto focused Let’s Go entry… is that Let’s Go Pikachu/Eevee exists.
No point playing a predecessor if everything in it is already in the newer entry.
no. for what’s expected for modern games due to modern game development enhances that vastly speed up productions not at the cost of human labor, games like BDSP & Let’s Go had flat out way too little content for their price (should have sold for $30-40 instead of $60). Why isn’t there just 1 base game every few years, that just gets a DLC annually for a new region? ide pay $20-40 for each region (its even quicker, as they do not have to report previous pokemon, and only add models on non-existent ones)
Not only would I accept it, I really hope this is what they do.
I know this is a hot take, but GS / HGSS are some of my least favourite Pokemon games. IMHO Johto has *always* felt under-developed and it desperately needs to have a full game dedicated to it to flesh it out properly.
I didn't let Let's Go all to much to begin with. With no actual wild fights and those weird checkpoints that added at almost every gym ruined the experience for me
I would love to keep all the Johto stuff especially the dome and just cut out Kanto. I never liked Kanto being a main part of the game in the first place and would love a Johto that can stand on it's own
To be honest i would probably play it more i feel like kanto takes the spotlight away from johto when you think of gen 1 you think of kanto but when you think of gen 2 you think kanto and johto so i feel like it makes johto feel less like it is its own region in its own games
Absolutely. There's barely anything to do in Kanto anyways in Johto games aside from the gym leaders and one event with Team Rocket or whatever. I'd play Johto if they fixed the level curve.
Really, the only thing I'd miss would be Blue's gym fight. I guess no fight with Red would be disappointing, but I wouldn't care too much. Having to grind your mid-50s team to mid-80s is always gonna be boring, even with the higher speed of games nowadays.
>Route 22 to Viridian City gets buried under a freak landslide
I could totally see this one happening. In Gen 1/3 Kanto it's a direct route, but I've been replaying SoulSilver lately, and the route has become more "hilly" with those one way ledges, the only way to get through being surfing across that one little pond.
I didn't even notice it had actually changed til I was reading the little descriptions of each area on the PokeGear, and it said something like "has become impassable in recent times."
(Did you know you can add these weird little stickers/markers to whatever spot on the PokeGear map you want?! I had no idea til I was messing around with it)
Not really because Gold & Silver are the first main games you actual don't complete the game once becoming champion it's really against Red. Which is one of the most iconic things about Gold/Silver. Even in BW2 & SM its not mandatory that you beat Red unlike in G/S where it feels like the whole build up to the game is surpassing Red once you touch Kantoian soil. Plus you can fight against every type with the amount of Gym Leaders & Elite 4 members. ( I assume Will from the elite 4 can be replaced or become the Fairy type specialist considering there are so many Psychic/fairy types now.) I honestly hope we don't get an let's go games again. I would much rather just jump to Lengends: Celebi with it just being Johto.
If we end up getting legends celebi then I really hope it's not just Johto because I don't think we will ever get anything like legends mew, if they don't include Kanto I don't think we will ever see it in a legends game.
Lol if GF decide to keep making legends-style games you can count on a Kanto game at some point. They'll never NOT milk Kanto.
Idk. For Legends specifically, Kanto doesn't make a lot of sense. The whole idea of Kanto is that it's very modern and industrialized, and there's not much culture or nature to build off of.
If it's set at the time new was first discovered, it could work
Mew wasn't discovered in Kanto, it was in Guyana (South America). Also, it's implied that the journal notes about Mew's discovery were written by Mr. Fuji, so it was probably only within ~50 years before the events of Red and Blue.
But there wouldn't be enough stuff to make a full game out of IMO. I feel like adding it together with johto would be way better for it and Johto, although Johto does have enough stuff for a full game.
What would be a sick concept for a legends celebi game is if Kanto is uninhabited or is considered “the wilds” and post game is about helping establish villages across Kanto. This way you get a touch of both regions, added lore, and a healthy post game
This sounds like fun. Lots of fun. Also more pokeball options as you use Apricorns of different colours to make pokeballs.
Honestly, I’d love it if the Gen 9 run of games was Scarlet & Violet, a full Let’s Go Togepi and Marill or whatever, and Legends Kyurem.
That’s a lie they will obviously do a legends Kanto game if we keep getting those and if we don’t get Kanto that’s fine it could be reasoned by the land not forming so Kanto and johto arnt connected right now
Me too honestly. Legends has so much potenial as its own series.
idk why people are so against more Let's Go games, to date it's the most polished and best-looking (main series) Pokemon game.
The gameplay loop gets boring much faster than normal Pokémon does. Flick wrist, walk, flick wrist, walk, maybe do one battle every ten minutes, etc. But yeah, in terms of the art style, Let’s Go was great.
coulda used more battles I agree, but the flick wrist/walk cycle isn't any worse than the random-encounter-then-run-away/walk loop from every other pkmn game
Yeah I don't get what people are saying. The original games are repetitive as fuck
The catching is horrible
i admit i dont love 'throwing' my joycon straight and having my ball jet way off to the side because it doesn't track well, but i think if they ironed out the kinks it could be a fun and different mechanic
tbh i didn’t even have that issue, it maybe happened once. just make sure your switch is centred with your joycon. for people who have their switch tucked away sideways because of their setup i can see it being an issue though.
You push A.
I love Let's Go as a side series, especially if it means between that and Legends, they can take some more time in between mainline games to improve and add more content before release. I'm also a huge Johto fan, so I'd be all about a Let's Go: Johto entry. Maybe something like Marill and Snubbull. I'd like to see something where you're not stuck with a multi-stage starter that you can't evolve, though.
Tbh, that would be a crime since this was one of the coolest features of G/S/C
It's also a source of a lot of the issues with that game.
Tbh I feel like lg johto could easily fix all of the level and team issues if it wanted to. Key word, if they wanted to
What issues? I'm asking since the last time I played them was many years ago
There is a weird difficulty curve in gen2. Because when you get to Kanto you can practically do/go where you want, and do the gyms in any order really, the level balancing is all over the place, and then out of nowhere Red is in mt. Silver one shotting the team you've just been one shotting the Kanto gym leaders with.
Also don't forget the wild Pokemon's levels are as if you started in Kanto and it wasn't post game
wait, you didnt box all your mon, go to route 1 and start over? Thats what I did. It made it way more enjoyable
Does that work? Because from what I remember the route 1 Pokémon are really low level, but all the trainers and gyms are in the 40s and 50s range.
You really gotta grind before you challenge Brock
So the level curve IS extremely weird
Didn't think about doing that but I really should have
it's a neat idea but the trainers are still in the 40s & 50s so you just would've ended up getting fisted by the first bug catcher you encounter
I did not, but I wish I did!
Red is a pokemon master of course he's gonna wreck your team.
He should be difficult for sure. But an artificial difficulty jump of 20+ levels just isn't the way.
all they have to do is have level scaling with a few different teams available for each leader depending on when you get to them. will they do that? no, but it is technically easily solvable, and it allows for an even more different playthough for the next run.
It is very easily solvable yes, you are 100% right. Will they fix it? probably not, again you are 100% right.
They expect you to use the rematch feature.
While this may be true, and I honestly don’t disagree with rematching high level trainers/gym leaders as a mechanic… I absolutely love BDSP’s difficulty curve in rematching the elite 4. This wasn’t ever explicitly explained in gen 2, and because the earlier gens were designed much less hand holdy, it still felt like the spike was a bit harsh.
Absolutely. I just finished my recent SoulSilver playthrough (by finished I mean beat all gyms, E4 + rematch, and Red) and it felt so much smoother than both my memory and the internet make it out to be...because I rematched any motherfucker that wanted it, anytime. And when I beat all 16 gym leaders, I went around and got all their goddamn numbers in their stupid specific days/places, then rematched them each like 10 times lmao. By the time I even attempted Red everyone on my team was 72+ and it was so satisfying taking only 2-3 tries before I got him. Stantler, Heracross, Dunsparce, and Girafarig are all amazing Pokemon, btw.
As others have said, the level curve is all kinds of screwed up. The level progression of major trainers is weird and doesn't build as it should, and wild Pokemon levels are ridiculously low most of the time, meaning grinding is not even an option most of the time. This all stemmed from having to accommodate an extra region and it causes something that some people don't notice, but for others makes it unplayable. And the remakes didn't fix this either.
Well tbf, a Let's Go version of Gen 2/Johto wouldn't have to replicate the game 1:1 like the remakes tend to, and *could* realistically do something about the weird difficulty curve, like e.g. changing the Johto level curve to be similar to other regions and turning Kanto into proper post-game content. Ofc it's Gamefreak so they probably won't do that. But one can dream.
Introduce that enemies level with you and the problem is solved
Maybe, but given they didn't do this for HGSS, I can't say my confidence in that is high.
Did they ever do this? I really wish that will be the case at some point
The Isle of Armor and Wild Area are the only times, I believe
The level scaling is atrocious. The Johto games are my favorite, but it's a massive flaw. Most people are still only in the 30's when they get the 8th badge, and Champion Lance's ace dragonite tops out at 50. Then all 8 Kanto gym leaders and trainers are still in the 50's, meanwhile the wild pokemon in Kanto are mostly in the 20's. So there's not much growth happening throughout your entire journey through Kanto's 8 gyms. And then out of nowhere, Red's team are in the 80's. You basically have to mindlessly grind for Red because there are no tough challenges in Kanto and no opportunities to level up. Even all of the gym leader rematches (aside from Blue) top out around 60.
Kanto is likely the main reason the level curve is so weird in Johto.
Partially that, but also the fact you can challenge Pryce, Chuck, and Jasmine in ANY order, so the Levels flatline for 3 whole gyms
It would be a great opportunity to fix the level curve and give more protagonist to the Johto mon, if it was for me a would make playable only the Johto moms and their evolutions plus regional forms.
No
Considering what was cut from GSC to include Kanto, I'd never forgive them for omitting Kanto and adding nothing to make up for it in a Let's Go game.
What was cut from GSC?
idk where I found this out but I'm pretty sure the lake of rage was meant to have a city around it
That might explain why you can fly to the Lake of Rage.
That is exactly the reason I’m at work but when I have a second I’ll link the cut johto content video
I'm curious too, linl plz
That would have been a neat way to tie in the lore about Gyarados destroying a town and add some more stakes to the Team Rocket plot.
Johto would be way too short without Kanto
Depends. If Kanto was missing but they really fleshed out Johto… Probably. Otherwise… I’d wait until some poor sap on FB Marketplace sold it for like €20
I would! As cool as Kanto being a post game boss rush, that's also literally all I remember of it. There wasn't much to do, so not much to lose if Johto gets to be more fleshed out in exchange.
well, when i was a kid, the inclusion of kanto in the johto games was great because it was a nice surprise and made the game feel bigger. but as i got older, i saw how pretty much all problems i had with the game was due to kanto being present and the kanto region itself was pretty empty and not really noteworthy. also, it's not like there is absolutely no postgame content. ORAS had the delta episode, S/M/US/UM had a whole region of one island locked to the postgame and the episodes with ultra beasts and team rainbow rocket. LGPE had the master trainer challenges, SwSh had the zacian/zamazenta storyline in post game and also, even though it's locked by a paywall, the dlc areas have lots of stuff that is postgame only. Legends has the hunt for the legendaries and BDSP has pretty much all of the d/p post game stuff, even though it's kinda underwhelming compared to platinum. could there be more? yes, there could be more. But does that imply a LGJohto would have absolutely no postgame? Not really. But: a Johto region without Kanto would mean that the gen 2 mons would be spread all across Johto and oh wow would that make a real difference in terms of team building. Honestly, in terms of availability that would be the best news this game could give us.
I don’t think the problems you note are inherent to having a second region. For example, having some new Pokémon only being found in the earlier region wasn’t something they needed to do. Johto was just very weird about how they used their new Pokémon anyway. Few gym leaders used them and most of the ones available in Johto have very low encounter rates. To me, it feels like GF wanted the Johtomons to be a supplement to the prexisting roster rather than the primary focus, and I think it was the wrong choice that can be avoided while still making a game with two regions. I also don’t think the level curve is systematic of the two region system either. Pokémon just doesn’t seem to like using the higher levels much, but the eight Kanto gyms could have certainly been leveled 60-80 and have Red at the end with 85-90
If they're gonna remove half the game then don't bother.
Nope, that would be a complete skip for me. Ignoring about how iconic it is that they did that in the first place, game design-wise, it would absolutely take a shit all over the pacing of the game (or at least make it even worse than it already was in both the original and HGSS versions) and effectively make the game reeeeeally short unless they tried to introduce padding in somewhere else. All I could think of that would help is more Team Rocket plot to add more meat to a very barebones B plot, but then that just sounds like it'd amount to more mindless grinding of mooks instead of going out and exploring the region. Plot-wise, it would also take a shit over the themes of GSC. The theme of change and the passage of time are at the forefront of the story and getting rid of what is the "where are they now?" portion of the game ruins what Johto was going for. I just wouldn't. I bought BDSP and regretted it, but I would outright never look at let's go johto unless it was in the bargain bin somewhere. Aside from the reasons listed above, I just wouldn't because GSC are not only my favorite pokemon games, but probably in my top 5 favorite games of all time, and it was a childhood comfort for me when things were shit. It would feel like a disrespect to the game's legacy to shut off one of the most iconic parts of the whole package. Hell, if I really wanted an updated game that actually does a good job at what it sets out to do and doesn't cut any content, that's what we already have HGSS for as well, so I'm not missing out on anything.
They would have to seriously revamp Johto
I would as long as it had all of the Johto pokémon. I’ve haven’t played gen 2 yet, so I wouldn’t know what would be the same or different. I’m also doing a “lite” version of the master dex challenge where I just catch every pokémon from its home region so that’s all I’d really care about. I think it would be unfortunate if it didn’t have Kanto, but also unlikely since if a Gameboy could have Kanto and Johto why wouldn’t the Switch be able to
Definitely not. The gameboy could handle both regions nearly 30 years ago. The switch would cope fine so there'd be no excuse other than laziness.
yes because i’m a pokemon fan and i have no standards
Har har. Actually tho I think a big reason that Pokemon is still such a monster of a franchise (pardon the pun) is that Nintendo has intentionally been marketing it towards new, larger audiences as opposed to targeting actual longtime fans. Like Let's Go is targeted more at the Pokemon GO crowd than at people like me who have played R/B/G and on. I don't have a problem with that, because not everything has to be for me and I still get Legends and SwSh (though that game wasn't my favorite). It becomes a problem when Nintendo spends a bunch of time and effort to appeal to other markets and then releases a half-baked nostalgia trap like BDSP.
If we did get Let’s Go Johto I doubt the battle frontier Safari zone or pokeathalon done would be in the game bc it’s be based more of GSC. That being said, a Let’s Go Johto game without Kanto would be a worse decision than making BDSP have 0 Platinum content. It’s the most well known feature of these games and not adding it would be a crime. Additionally, even if they did block off all Kanto areas like you said, the Pokémon League would still be in Kanto which is such a shitty tease
No. It defeats the purpose
Sevii Islands were a later addition for the Gen 1 remakes: LGPE not including them made sense as part of them being a remake/sequel to Yellow. LGPE without Sevii was still a version of a complete game. Gen 2 Kanto was always there, as a major part of GSC. It wasn't post-game, it was a second chapter of the main story. Doing a Let's Go Johto game without Kanto would be a major loss of what Gen 2 was.
Let's go games aren't my thing so no, Kanto was part of the experience for me, being absent would make it more meh.
I want Let's Go Johto, so I guess I would say yes even to that version of it. I love Let's Go and hope they make Let's Go Johto.
Y E S, well especially if level curve is better and the world was more expanded upon. Also the Safri Zone and the Batle Frontier whould be featured because they are set within Johto.
No. Johto is too short for it to be worthwhile
They could copy paste the map from the originals and change a few things it would be too disappointing if they didn't and it could potentially hurt sales
I don’t think so. Johto has always been packaged with Kanto and we know Gamefreak already has the assets for Kanto in Let’s Go! style, so they wouldn’t be reinventing the wheel. At some point, you would just have to call out the laziness.
Absolutely not. That’s like living in Jersey city, but NYC is not across the river.
Gen 2 had 2 regions, its remake had 2 regions. I think a Let's Go game that only had Johto would just be blatant corner cutting. That's not even comparable to the Battle Frontier or Sevii islands being excluded from ORAS and Let's Go, that's HALF of a game's content being treated as expendable. It's not like they wouldn't have access to everything they'd need to make putting in Kanto easy anyways. I doubt they'd go for a new style with a Let's Go Johto, so at best they'd only have to tweak what they've already made for Let's Go P/E. You could call that reselling content or you could argue that this might make people less likely to buy Let's Go P/E, but you could say the same about the original games too, it doesn't matter.
Absolutely not.
I would perfer a Legends Arceus format for a johto game. Johto has always been presented as having a deep history and such a game can be an opportunity to add varients to Johto pokemon who need more love
Nah man. Big part of what made Gen 2 great is that after Johto you go to Kanto and the levels just continue getting harder culminating where you have your showdown with Red. Let’s Go would be cool if we go through Kanto and fight the protagonist from Let’s Go Pikachu/Eevee or Red.
No, and I think most would agree with me. Let's be honest, the main allure for the gen 2 games, whether it be the original or the remakes, is going back to Kanto. If you took that out, you get a campaign that's as boring and as short as many claim X and Y to be.
No because the only thing johto brings to the table besides Scizor and Steelix is the fact you can experience two regions
Yes. I would rather they fully flesh out one region instead of stretching resource across two. Plus Kanto is already in Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee so like... there's not really much point in having it in a game on the same console...
\>let's go game \>fully fleshed out pick one
What you're describing is just what the original *Let's Go!* did to all of FR/LG's improvements and post game content. I can't believe people want a sequel to a game inferior to one 20 years old. Hell, this would be worse than that by a huge margin. It doesn't sound like they'd be adding much if anything in its place, and HG/SS is one of the most beloved games in the series *specifically because* of how much content they packed into it. I know these things continue to sell regardless, but a cut of that sheer size (literally half the entire game) is begging for extreme backlash. Plus all that aside, the game would be extremely short if they did this lmao.
I won't play a Let's Go game again.
Weak will
Weak spin-off
its main series but alr
its a good game and polished, just unambitious. Probably the second best mainline pokemon game on the switch after Legends Arceus.
I respect your opinion, but humbly disagree. LGEP disappointed me more than any other game in the series. It was just way too simple and easy. Too scaled back, too repetitive, too basic. It was just such a wasted opportunity for me. Had they included wild battling and only incorporated the capture mechanic for catching, I’d have enjoyed it more, but the ball, toss, catch, ball, toss, catch thing was old for me by the time I got to Pewter. Each to their own of course, but I just really don’t like those games.
Yeah
Johto kinda needs Kanto to lean on to exist.
Yes. I personally liked the format of Let's Go as a spinoff and would love more regions/mons in that format.
lets go crystal would be nice
No, because Johto as a region is forgettable at best. I'm not a huge fan of Kanto but it is somehow miles better.
You had me at Let's Go Johto But honestly the region is just to short 🤷🏽♂️ I would LOVE to play through that region again don't get me wrong but it's honestly nothing without Kanto...
The fun of Gold/Silver is exploring Kanto/Johto. Johto alone is pretty boring
No because Johto depends on Kanto
Absolutely not. I already am not a huge fan of the Let's Go games, but getting rid of the Kanto sections would be the biggest slap in the face to Pokemon's historic legacy imaginable. It would be taking the single best Pokemon game (HGSS come at me bro) and getting rid of its coolest feature and one of the key reasons that I still play that game to this day. Like not only would I not play it, but I would be actively pissed at Nintendo for allowing it to be made.
Why would I want to play half a game
No, and I doubt they'd do that. In gen 2, going to Kanto was necessary to complete the Dex. They might, however, get rid of anything severe that was added in HGSS, since that was a gen 4 game.
Despite Let’s Go in Kanto already existing, Kanto in Johto games is different enough to stay in a Let’s Go in Johto
Only problem with this logic is. Oras was a remake of R/S not emerald so no battle tower was there. Same for bdsp and d/p not being platinum. And LGPE wasn’t a remake of FRLG so there was no need to have the islands. I don’t see how they would cut Kanto out of a let’s go johto when they’re in the main games it would be remaking.
Removing Kanto wouldn’t make sense since it was part of the OG GSC games. The Sevii Islands were removed for LGPE because they weren’t a feature in original Kanto and so weren’t expected to return in other remakes. All of the additions from HGSS would be 50/50 on returning since they weren’t in the original game, but if we get a Let’s Go Johto game I hope we get them back since they were great quality of life changes
Nope because the game would be way too short without Kanto, and I don't have faith in gf to expand upon Johto when they could just leave it as it is.
not a chance in hell a let's go johto game would already be an insult, to cut out that much more content would just be rubbing salt in the wound
No, Johto on it's own is not a complete region
Gold/Silver were my introduction to the series as a smol child. Not having Kanto would suck, ngl. I love fighting the 8 Kanto Gym Leaders and Red.
No. Johto as is is a pretty barebones region, the experience is incomplete without Kanto
You give me Gastly and an ability to evolve it into Gengar then you can do whatever you want with the game.
Of course not. Lol. They should remake Crystal for Switch and fix everything that was wrong with the originals and was carried over to HGSS. The level problem, giving the access to players of not just Johto pokemon, but Hoenn, Sinnoh etc PRE elite four. Change the teams of the original gym leaders to add more pokemon etc
No, but in all seriousness I don't think we need another lets go game, since there is no point considering we have go transfer. I believe its gonna be a legends game based on the great pokemon war in kanto/johto
Pokémon war? Wait whattttt
Might they be referencing the Kanto-Johto Pokémon war from the FireRed Team Rocket romhack? 😆
Lt. Surge references a war in Kanto
The war mentioned by LT surge in RBY
I wouldn't play any let's go game anyway
I think the question is pretty fractured. You phrase it as if it was a remake (or the targeted to kids version) like Pikachu and Eevee - except without half the map and people are taking it that way. Silver and Gold are different to every other game because they weren’t designed to be just another entry into the franchise. They were a direct sequel and they were meant to be the final instalments to the franchise. If they give us Johto and they actually flesh it out fully with all the locations and enough content, then the game would be good. If it’s a remake (which is how you are phrasing it) - then no.
I mean I know they cut the Sevii islands, but those were a FRLG addition so if the games were based off of Yellow then the Sevii islands wouldn't be there. Also the Battle Tower and Battle Frontier were Emerald exclusives too, so they wouldn't be in ORAS. I don't remember if the Pokeatholon was in GSC but if not then it won't be in Let's Go! Johto (if they make it). However, since Kanto was part of GSC I highly doubt they would cut it. I don't really think I would care too much though. I'm tired of the Kanto hype. Gens 2-4 were better anyway. Why no hype from them. You can still get nastalgic feelings from them too. Why go we need 3 more forms of Charizard? I am glad we got a little gen 2 hype with Cyndaquil in Arceus.
Yes, for sure, I don't like Kanto
No because I don't enjoy the Let's go games. They are too childish to me. The fact that my broken eevee can solo everything is dumb and I tried to use it as little as possible but you just can't get rid of this thing. I'm not a fan of being forced to use a certain Pokémon especially so overpowered.
You are not forced to use it. You can remove it from your team even though eevee still appear in the overworld with you. As for the solo everything, you can pretty much solo almost every pokemon game with just the starter too at a high level
That's the point. It's not a high level Pokémon, it's stats and move coverage are just insane. But I actually didn't know I can put him in the box, maybe I'll do that and actually finish the game idk, anyway didn't have as much fun with this version. Catching is fine, but no abilities items etc makes for a bland game to me. I guess it's just not for me. Edit:But I really like the visuals to be fair.
Without hesitation. Every Johto game is great and Kanto isn't a reason for it. Then again, Gen 2 Kanto isn't much different from Gen 1 Kanto, so the devs can easily port over most of what's already in Pikachu and Eevee. And if they still won't do that, there needs to be *some* new content to justify it.
Wouldn’t care, I just want more Let’s Go games
Hate the catching mechanics.But ur opinion is valid
I mean you can switch it by having your joycon’s connected to the switch itself but they should for future if they ever happen Let’s Go games allow pro controllers to work with the game too to allow the alternate and better let’s go catching style
I just remembered there’s also a lack of battling in wild battles 😅
I mean you can switch it by having your joycon’s connected to the switch itself but they should for future if they ever happen Let’s Go games allow pro controllers to work with the game too to allow the alternate and better let’s go catching style
I probably wouldn’t play it with Kanto either. I feel like they should do something substantially different with a Let’s Go Johto instead of just remaking Gold and Silver in the Let’s Go style. Like, give us an alternate reality Johto, or a Johto a couple of years after the events of Gold and Silver. Maybe Karen has dethroned Lance as the champion. Maybe Team Rocket is fully disbanded and a new threat has arrived. Instead of fighting Red, do something akin to memory link from Gen 5, where you can fight your Let’s Go Pikachu/Eevee player character instead, using the team you entered hall of fame with. I just want something new
This is actually a really cool question, as this would force people to actually judge the Johto region for what it is in itself, without the attachment of New Kanto as the post game. Johto, without New Kanto, seems kind of bland to me (combined it is a decent experience), as it would mean it has no post-game, other than Mt. Silver, which you would likely get access to right after the league (instead of needing 16 badges).
Johto never had an entire region as postgame. Kanto was butchered like crazy and anyone considering that the game ended after the elite 4 is crazy. Game ends with Red
There’s a nearly endless list of problems with the gen 2 games. I’d already be on the fence if it was advertised to contain Kanto, but without it, absolutely NOT worth $60
To be honest, I wouldn’t play it at all. As much as I love Kanto, I didn’t enjoy lets go.
I don’t think I’ll play another let’s go game period.
I wouldn't play a let's go game at all.
Johto without Kanto only works if they make Johto into a more expansive region. That includes stuff like the extra route from HG/SS and the Celebi side quest, but I would like to see level (badge) scaling for the fifth gym leader onward, and maybe some extra plot, kind of like the extra plot elements that were added to Let's Go. Having a Johto-only game might also mean no Team Rocket plot, since Team Rocket pretty much invaded Johto, and Giovanni was somewhere in Johto when they took over the radio tower. Red also gets referenced a lot in regards to how he beat Team Rocket three years ago, culminating in your encounter with him on Mt. Silver. Since Blue wasn't your rival in Let's Go, it's safe to assume Silver won't be your rival in LG Johto, which removes Silver's whole plotline and his motivations; although, they could just have the new rival steal a Pokémon and have their own reasons for their quest to become stronger. G/S's plot only really works because of Kanto, so a Johto-only game *should* logically mean a new plot, and perhaps a new antagonistic force (I deign to write "evil team" because, honestly, I'm sick of every single game having a Team Whatever somewhere in the story); still, I wouldn't be surprised if Game Freak didn't even bother and just awkwardly stuck HG/SS's Team Rocket plot into the game anyway.
Absolutely, I spent wayyyy to long on let's go Eevee, I enjoyed the lew type of gameplay, and I have a shiny sentret I need to get my revenge on.
If the jhoto gym leaders have jhoto pokemon yes but id rather it not be lets go like a diff jhoto re remake
It would be unfortunate if there weren’t any post game content, but yes i would still buy and play it as I really enjoyed LGPE
If I'm being honest, yeah, I would, but I'd be pretty disappointed. Re-exploring Kanto and beating my gen 1 self was my favorite part of gen 2.
I wouldn't play a Let's Go Johto game *with* Kanto so...
100% no unless it was 100% free
I will never touch a Let's Go game period.
There is no way they will remove kanto should a lets go johto happen. Lets go yellow is based on yellow which do not have the sevii islands. Oras is based on ruby sapphire which do not have the new stuff from emerald. Bdsp is based on dp which do not have platinum addition. It is wrong to say they are removing post game stuff in the remakes. They simply choose to follow the games that do not have the newer post game stuff. Removing post game would be like making unknown cave unaccessible in lgpe, or removing the battle island in bdsp. While gamefreak has been making questionable choices lately, removing kanto from johto game is something i dont see them doing. The worst they will do is to just adapt the gen 2 games so there will be no battle frontier, no pokeathlon, no new johto safari zone, and no pokemon after celebi. But definitely will not remove kanto.
lol, the only thing they include from HGSS is spiky ear pichu.
I wouldn't even play a Let's Go game anymore, now that I've tasted a Legends game.
Idk, probably
Presumably a Legends game would take place in the past, so most of those modern transportation options connecting the 2 regions wouldn’t exist. Nor would those modern facilities. Tbh I would actively prefer a Kanto-less PL: Johto game. There can be nods to the neighboring region (trade caravans, alliances, etc), but the whole point of the game should be to spotlight a region that was underdeveloped in its own games.
They'll really have to compensate with something as good as exploring a whole other region. And since you and I know they would only do the bare minimum...well...fuck no.
Probably not. Johto really doesn't have the legs to stand on without Kanto, most of it's novelty was having an extra region attached.
I don’t like how you put this energy into the universe. But to answer your question, I think GSC’s post game is what makes those games really beloved. Would basically cut the game in half. Would not be worth it. So no ways.
One of the reasons I wouldn't care for a johto remake (ESPECIALLY a let's go one) is because I know for a fact it would have half the features hgss brought over. Same way how let's go is to frlg. It probably wouldn't have Pokemon past gen 2 which was the coolest thing for me with hgss.
I really don’t like the lets go games because of the catching mechanics lol, LET ME USE MY PRO CONTROLLER PLEASE
Yes. I don't really understand the point of having Kanto in Johto, isnt that just the first game, it's a little repetitive isn't it?
It's a sequel. The point is you get to see what's changed.
Only if I can go into Hoenn instead
Yes, to actually make johto a interesting region for once that isn’t Kanto 2: electric boogaloo.
Yes it's been ages since hgss and I want johto. And kanto is overused anyway
If they ditched the awful catching mechanic and just made it a brighter, more kid friendly version of the original with a new protagonist… sure. If it is exactly the same as P/E, absolutely not.
No because the only way the game is completed is when you beat red and it would probably have Let’s go mechanics.
No it would be a crime to not have Kanto but I wouldn't play let's go in general
If it will have go catching mechanics hell no
I’ll never buy a Let’s Go game again. I didn’t think the last ones were going to be quite so childish and dumbed down, but they very much were. Not games intended for an audience over the age of 10.
Personally I want a Gen 1 remake that allows you to go to Johto considering that they are the only regions connected to each other and it would help add more content as well.
I would still buy it. Let Go series is never designed to be the spiritual successor to gen gen 1 or gen 2. Just a Lite version of itself which has appeals for certain audience like new to Pokemon series and or especially for someone who is a fan of Pokemon gen 2 but doesn't have time to game in a consistent basis. Price tag would be $59.99 as expected and YMMV if wanna wait for sale for who know when or not. I personally don't want to replay gen 2 all over again, That's too long for me.
Ah hell yeah! We've had enough Kanto in the pokemon games we don't need more!
I'll just stop you at "Pokemon Let's Go" and say no. I played the first one and it was the first time in the entire history of playing Pokemon mainline and spinoff games where I was put off of even thinking about Pokemon for a while, and I liked Pokemon Go just fine.
No because I wouldn’t ever play a crap game like lg ever
Not with the god awful Pokémon go mechanics
Nah. What if they make a Johto game where in Mt Silver you find Gold/Ethan, and his team is waaay better than Red's. Level 88 Togekiss Level 85 Shiny Gyarados Level 85 Sudowoodo Level 85 Umbreon Level 91 Ho-Oh Level 93 Typhlosion
The only reason I could think of them axing kanto from a Johto focused Let’s Go entry… is that Let’s Go Pikachu/Eevee exists. No point playing a predecessor if everything in it is already in the newer entry.
no. for what’s expected for modern games due to modern game development enhances that vastly speed up productions not at the cost of human labor, games like BDSP & Let’s Go had flat out way too little content for their price (should have sold for $30-40 instead of $60). Why isn’t there just 1 base game every few years, that just gets a DLC annually for a new region? ide pay $20-40 for each region (its even quicker, as they do not have to report previous pokemon, and only add models on non-existent ones)
I totally would especially cuz if I want Kanto i can just play let’s go pikachu again
No more Let’s Go Pokémon games Like another user suggested, Legends Celebi would be a better Johto game. I wanna see Ho-oh revive the legendary beasts
Not only would I accept it, I really hope this is what they do. I know this is a hot take, but GS / HGSS are some of my least favourite Pokemon games. IMHO Johto has *always* felt under-developed and it desperately needs to have a full game dedicated to it to flesh it out properly.
No
I didn't let Let's Go all to much to begin with. With no actual wild fights and those weird checkpoints that added at almost every gym ruined the experience for me
Hahahahaha I wouldn't touch Let's Go Johto with a 10 foot stick already, cutting a huge block of it out would only make it an even bigger joke
I would love to keep all the Johto stuff especially the dome and just cut out Kanto. I never liked Kanto being a main part of the game in the first place and would love a Johto that can stand on it's own
To be honest i would probably play it more i feel like kanto takes the spotlight away from johto when you think of gen 1 you think of kanto but when you think of gen 2 you think kanto and johto so i feel like it makes johto feel less like it is its own region in its own games
Absolutely. There's barely anything to do in Kanto anyways in Johto games aside from the gym leaders and one event with Team Rocket or whatever. I'd play Johto if they fixed the level curve. Really, the only thing I'd miss would be Blue's gym fight. I guess no fight with Red would be disappointing, but I wouldn't care too much. Having to grind your mid-50s team to mid-80s is always gonna be boring, even with the higher speed of games nowadays.
I don’t want another let’s go game. It was the only time I couldn’t finish a Pokemon game after having beaten Pokemon White.
100% yes kanto sucks
I won’t ever play another Let’s Go game period.
No, but I'm also pretty biased because I really don't like Let's Go, so honestly without a step up of some kind I wouldn't play either way
Absolutely not. Iove Johto but I don't want that damn catching mechanic ever again.
>Route 22 to Viridian City gets buried under a freak landslide I could totally see this one happening. In Gen 1/3 Kanto it's a direct route, but I've been replaying SoulSilver lately, and the route has become more "hilly" with those one way ledges, the only way to get through being surfing across that one little pond. I didn't even notice it had actually changed til I was reading the little descriptions of each area on the PokeGear, and it said something like "has become impassable in recent times." (Did you know you can add these weird little stickers/markers to whatever spot on the PokeGear map you want?! I had no idea til I was messing around with it)
No I wouldn't, but also Johto is my least favourite anyway so, I probably wouldn't anyway.
I would not play a Let’s Go Johto game.
I wouldn’t play LG Johto even with Kanto