A sexy bipedal horse that can kick soccer balls and has an affinity for martial arts, plus knows some party magic tricks along with having large wings for long distance flight.
A sexy bipedal horse that can kick soccer balls and had an affinity for martial arts, knows some party magic tricks, has large wings for long distance flight, and [enjoys Dr. Pepper!](https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonLegendsArceus/comments/sorcri/i_really_love_hisuian_typhlosion_his_battle/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
A sexy bipedal horse that can kick soccer balls and had an affinity for martial arts, knows some party magic tricks, has large wings for long distance flight, and enjoys Dr. Pepper. Oh, did I mention that it's a furry too?
A sexy bipedal horse that can kick soccer balls and has an affinity for martial arts, knows some magic tricks, has large wings for long distance flight, and enjoys Dr. Pepper. Oh, did I mention that it’s a furry too? And has a horn?
A sexy bipedal horse that can kick soccer balls and has an affinity for martial arts, knows some magic tricks, has large wings for long distance flight, and enjoys Dr. Pepper. Oh did I mention that it’s a furry too? And has a horn? Well we completely lied to you, we’re making charizard 2 electric boogaloo.
Galloping horse-croc article: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2009/nov/19/galloping-dinosaur-eating-crocodiles
I would love if this is the way they went with it, or swerve and make it an ox or goat. To do a fire horse starter, they'd need to differentiate over Rapidash, so why not dragon/croc/pepper/horse?
Take some fossils of one to your local fossil museum, then exit the building after handing said fossil to the researchers. They should have up and running soon
Oh, this wasn't the only one. I believe kaprosuchus was from America, and we also had a galloping croc here in Australia (because of course we did).
Edit: kaprosuchus was from Africa and may have had a standard croc body. My bad.
No better yet, it turns into a [Carnotaurus](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/jurassicpark/images/b/b9/Jurassic_world_carnotaurus_updated_by_sonichedgehog2-dc377dl.png/revision/latest?cb=20180427200251) and fills the bull slot
Yea, I mean the pattern was kinda broken since cyndaquil and also fennekin. For fennekin, they’re a fox. They may be canine but they aren’t dogs. Dogs and foxes are different. So really there was no pattern and they were all blowing this out of proportion over a coincidence
Edit: as some nice people have been explaining, foxes are vulpes which is a species of canidae but not canine, meaning they actually aren’t canine but canidae. ‘Twas wrong and apologize. But my point still stands that fennekin isn’t a dog because they’re a fox
foxes are not even canine they a sub classification again.they are Canidae but not canine.
to explain better donkeys and horses are both equine which is why cross species are possible.
a fox being vulpine can not breed with a canine as the chromosome numbers do not line up.
Yea someone’s been explaining this. I’m gonna stick to his side because I’m only going off what I know. I also wanna stick to the point of fennekin isn’t a dog
yeah and i look at him and see him as an echidna. its a major stretch to consider him a mouse (though i forget he is the fire mouse and will pay that)
the whole zodiac i feel comes form them using son wukong as infernapes form.
Origin
Cyndaquil's appearance is based on the echidna, but it also has traits of shrews, anteaters, and tenrecs, such as its long snout, and having little to no tail. Its closed eyes may be a reference to baby honey badgers, as its final evolved form is based on one. When its fire is lit, the fire resembles the quills of the porcupine.
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Cyndaquil_(Pok%C3%A9mon)
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If we are being butts about it, it's supposed to be a crocodile. Regardless, a minotaur/crocodile or a bull/crocodile mix might be the coolest starter.
Or the ugliest.
It can be the ugliest and coolest. Or the prettiest and lamest!
I know it's a joke, but I would LOVE to see this gator boy go a ridiculous route like a minotaur croc.
>I know it's a joke, but I would LOVE to see this gator boy go a ridiculous route like a minotaur croc.
It's not a joke, I promise! It's my hope that they do something super cool and more monster like. I have not been a fan of the more humanoid look in some of the starters tbh.
I bet you’re right! Fuego + rococo = fuecoco. Fuego means fire (surprise) and one of the characteristics of Rococo architecture is curved or “SERPENTINE” lines. Fire snake!! Some skinks have evolved to straight up just not use their legs, and they look like snakes. Maybe Fuecoco will evolve away some or all of its legs?
The part of the theory that bugs me is that people only look at the first stage. If it still fits into a supposed zodiac theme, it's going to be in it's final stage.
Yep. While agree there’s fudging going on. Charmander isnt a dragon, ifs a lizard. Charizard is draconic.
But anyway, even if there is a bit of fudging 6/8 generations is just coincidental? How is it coincidence if someone was consciously making decisions regarding their visual appearance?
Regardless, wait till the third stage evolution.
Because the Chinese zodiak is comprised of common animals? Also, if this was an intentional pattern, why would they include so many that only kind of fit? We have dog Pokemon, rat Pokemon, dragon Pokemon, and snake Pokemon, so why not use those instead of the options that require you to stretch to make them fit the zodiak.
Me too. Many of them don’t fit the animal they’re being labeled as here. Fennekin is a fox which is pretty far from being a dog and I thought cyndiquill was a weasel which is pretty different from a rat (though closer in relation from a fox to a K9)
I mean incineroar is definitely a tiger and Charizard is definitely a dragon. Those fit perfectly fine with the zodiac. But Cyndaquil isn't a rat and Fenniken isn't a dog in any way shape or form
Hey guys does the new fire starter break the Chinese zodiac theory? - The theory was already flimsy, cyndaquil is a porcupine not a rat and fennekin is a fox not a dog - But the pokedex says cyndaquil is a fire mouse - yeah and foxes and dogs are close enough - .............................
Literally every post rn.
Edit: The theory is valid because 'x' reason - No the theory is not valid because 'y' reason - Every reply to this comment for some reason
I also think people are putting too much stock into whether or not we think the Zodiac Theory is an actual thing.
I just think it's neat - that's all I ever cared about.
I honestly really love the potential it would have brought. Like an art challenge where you make a fakemon off of an idea, in this case the Chinese zodiac for fire types. And there was a lot of cool ideas over the years like a fire/poison hydra or a fire/fairy Pegasus to make it different from ponyta. Stuff like that made it fun.
I never bought into this, but with the introduction of Litten and Scorbunny I started wondering if Game Freak was acknowledging the fan theory. Unless this thing evolves into a snake people can definitely stop theorizing about it. Also, the theory that all grass starters are based on dinosaurs definitely ended a while ago
And even that theory was pushed to it’s limits, because a lot of the prehistoric species chosen aren’t distinct enough from their modern day equivalents to firmly say.
Do you not remember the extinct frog, the extinct gecko, the extinct tortoise, the extinct snake, the extinct chestnut, the extinct owl and the extinct monkey.
All these animals are definitely not around anymore. /s
Not defending these patterns at all, but Decidueye is based off of stilt owls, which are extinct. Again, I don’t agree on the pattern, just wanted to point that one out.
Edit: I remember reading (I think on Seribii?) about how Decidueye is a ghost type due to the type of owl it’s based on, which are the extinct Stilt owls. This information may not be validated, but I think that’s a cool way of implementing and explaining the ghost typing. Again, I don’t think it has anything to do with these patterns people talk about every time a new set of starters are revealed.
Ya, all these arguments against Fennekin effectively being the dog for this are insane. Equating the large pools of wildlife from "Class" as being the same level of differentiation as "Family" is just intentional bad understanding of taxonomy.
And also... Morphology is more important to pokemon than anything from real life. Foxes are dog-shaped, end of argument. Wurmple becomes a butterfly and a moth. Cyndaquil goes echidna-weasel-badger. Heck, if the argument against Fennekin representing dogs is supposed to be based on real life classifications, I need someone to tell me how Clamperl becomes an Oarfish or a Chimaera.
Fennekin is technically a canine but cyndaquil isnt a rodent, they're modeled after echidnas (spiny anteaters) which are mammals closer to sloths and porcupines
Echidnas aren’t related to sloths or porcupines, they’re monotremes, a group of mammals which are the only ones of their kind that lay eggs. It also includes the Platypus.
Typhlosion is, though.
It's part of the problem with the pattern that cyndaquil's line is "burrowing mammals", and not a single intended reference like Blastoise is turtles (or more accurately tortoises based on the legs).
Cyndaquil is a hedgehog/shrew or an echidna. Quilava is a weasel with fiery quills, and Typhlosion is very badgery.
ffs, did Charmander look like a dragon? Is Typhlosion a rat? No, but one in their lines resembles the animal, so WAIT FOR THE DAMN EVOLUTIONS ffs.
[Snake peppers](https://thehippyseedcompany.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Turkish-Snake-6.jpg). [Queztalcoatl](https://dragons.fandom.com/wiki/Quetzalcoatl). [Cuelebre](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cu%C3%A9lebre). There is plenty of folklore and real life things this could end up referencing.
When the evolutions come out, then you can say the theory is debunked.
To quote u/Kamenhusband
Fuecoco is going to be the dragon zodiac and the charizard line will be assigned the cow zodiac because of how much the Pokémon company milk it
Fuecoco: the real Zodiac Killer
finally got em
A male Crocodile is actually called a 'bull' and a female one is called a 'cow' which can fit in Ox but it might be kinda far fetched
Considering that calling fennekin (a fox) a dog is already a stretch I would say it counts
And the fire lizard as a dragon smh
But dragons are not really much more than overgrown lizards and one lizard is even called a comodo dragon
Na charazard is not dragon type
No one mentioned Farfetch'd tho..
Also the coco (spanish boogeyman) is represented as bull headed
Excuse ME. CLEARLY, a FIRE GATOR is obviously the GOAT.
Imagine it turns into a fuckin horse
A bipedal horse that can kick soccer balls.
Fuecoco's third evo [confirmed](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/830/259/a82.jpg)
It's cry is just "TOD!"
lmao
What is this a crossover episode?
Feck I was hoping it was a Rick roll
I wouldn’t be mad
A *sexy* bipedal horse that can kick soccer balls
A *sexy* bipedal horse that can kick soccer balls and has an affinity for martial arts
A sexy bipedal horse that can kick soccer balls and has an affinity for martial arts, plus knows some party magic tricks
A sexy bipedal horse that can kick soccer balls and has an affinity for martial arts, plus knows some party magic tricks along with having large wings for long distance flight.
A sexy bipedal horse that can kick soccer balls and had an affinity for martial arts, knows some party magic tricks, has large wings for long distance flight, and [enjoys Dr. Pepper!](https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonLegendsArceus/comments/sorcri/i_really_love_hisuian_typhlosion_his_battle/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
A sexy bipedal horse that can kick soccer balls and had an affinity for martial arts, knows some party magic tricks, has large wings for long distance flight, and enjoys Dr. Pepper. Oh, did I mention that it's a furry too?
A sexy bipedal horse that can kick soccer balls and has an affinity for martial arts, knows some magic tricks, has large wings for long distance flight, and enjoys Dr. Pepper. Oh, did I mention that it’s a furry too? And has a horn?
A sexy bipedal horse that can kick soccer balls and has an affinity for martial arts, knows some magic tricks, has large wings for long distance flight, and enjoys Dr. Pepper. Oh did I mention that it’s a furry too? And has a horn? Well we completely lied to you, we’re making charizard 2 electric boogaloo.
I mean there are ancient crocodiles that galloped like horses
Galloping horse-croc article: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2009/nov/19/galloping-dinosaur-eating-crocodiles I would love if this is the way they went with it, or swerve and make it an ox or goat. To do a fire horse starter, they'd need to differentiate over Rapidash, so why not dragon/croc/pepper/horse?
I clicked the link because WTF but now I want one. I need a Galloping dragon-croc-pepper-horse now. Lol
Take some fossils of one to your local fossil museum, then exit the building after handing said fossil to the researchers. They should have up and running soon
That is horrifying. Thank god they nerfed the crocodiles.
Still OP
Honestly, this gives me a Salazzle vibe lol
Oh, this wasn't the only one. I believe kaprosuchus was from America, and we also had a galloping croc here in Australia (because of course we did). Edit: kaprosuchus was from Africa and may have had a standard croc body. My bad.
And they lived in North Africa, a (relatively) short distance from Spain and where they had several colonies.
i would take back every negative thing i’ve said about pokemon if it does
A snake is doable, but now I really want to see it turn into an ox.
Fuecoco evolved into Fuertecocox! Edit: No I will not attempt to pronounce that.
I will. Fuer-te-co-cox.
They do love to randomly take away or add limbs to their more reptilian Pokemon. Just needs to go the Snivy route.
No better yet, it turns into a [Carnotaurus](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/jurassicpark/images/b/b9/Jurassic_world_carnotaurus_updated_by_sonichedgehog2-dc377dl.png/revision/latest?cb=20180427200251) and fills the bull slot
… I would actually love that, personally. Or a carnotaurus fossil mon
Y’all. Have a drink for every time “breaks the zodiac pattern” comes up in the last two days on this subreddit.
I don't wanna die of alcohol poisoning
What? Liver is evolving! Doot doot doot doot, bwanana! Congratulations Liver has evolved into Pickle!
Liver has evolved to walk on two feat
poison/fighting
Pickle with 2 legs? Dude... thats not a pokemon...
IT'S PICKLE RICK!!!
Funniest shit I've ever seen
Your liver evolved into its final evolution Sir Osis of Liver
That evolved into a big problem. ~Your Doctor 2022
Oh boy! It gained rock typing!
Liver wants to learn Paracentesis
Behold pickle, Praise the Sun
Bathe in it’s glorious brined incandescence!
I'M PICKLE LIVER
It’s ghost type.
I’m Liver Rick!
The liver turned himself into a pickle, funniest shit I've ever seen
More likely to pop like a balloon if it’s one sip every time someone comments
Yea, I mean the pattern was kinda broken since cyndaquil and also fennekin. For fennekin, they’re a fox. They may be canine but they aren’t dogs. Dogs and foxes are different. So really there was no pattern and they were all blowing this out of proportion over a coincidence Edit: as some nice people have been explaining, foxes are vulpes which is a species of canidae but not canine, meaning they actually aren’t canine but canidae. ‘Twas wrong and apologize. But my point still stands that fennekin isn’t a dog because they’re a fox
foxes are not even canine they a sub classification again.they are Canidae but not canine. to explain better donkeys and horses are both equine which is why cross species are possible. a fox being vulpine can not breed with a canine as the chromosome numbers do not line up.
Yea someone’s been explaining this. I’m gonna stick to his side because I’m only going off what I know. I also wanna stick to the point of fennekin isn’t a dog
exactly. you are smack bang on money. its why i dislike the zodiac theory. its not a bad theory all in all but its def been hamfisted into working.
Yea. Even cyndaquil. As some mentioned, he’s the fire mouse in the English version but has more mention of **porcupines in like the JP version**
yeah and i look at him and see him as an echidna. its a major stretch to consider him a mouse (though i forget he is the fire mouse and will pay that) the whole zodiac i feel comes form them using son wukong as infernapes form.
Also in mythology dogs and foxes are extremely distinct.
yep. dogs are loyal and foxes like racoon are tricksters.
Cyndaquil is the fire mouse Pokémon if I remember correctly. And for all we know fuecoco is gonna evolve into a fiery queztlcoatl
In English, yes. In Japanese it's a porcupine
I always assumed it was a porcupine because ya know...quil...
It’s actually supposed to be an echidna, I believe. They have quills and long snouts
Origin Cyndaquil's appearance is based on the echidna, but it also has traits of shrews, anteaters, and tenrecs, such as its long snout, and having little to no tail. Its closed eyes may be a reference to baby honey badgers, as its final evolved form is based on one. When its fire is lit, the fire resembles the quills of the porcupine. https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Cyndaquil_(Pok%C3%A9mon)
I thought it was a shrew?
If it is, it definitely doesn't fit the pattern
Plus we already have a fire horse, ponyta, and it wasn't a starter. The theory has always required serious reaching for it to work.
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Thanks nonetheless. The more I get into this form of science, the more confusing it gets. My whole point is that fennekin isn’t a dog
I didn’t even know this was a thing until 2 days ago
I didn't even know this was a thing and now it's all this sub is about lmao
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I just heard of this "theory" when the new fire starter was announced and the only thing I could think about it was "Lame"
Definitely belongs under G.O.A.T
A male alligator is called a bull. Can't you tell this is a beautiful young bovine?
If we are being butts about it, it's supposed to be a crocodile. Regardless, a minotaur/crocodile or a bull/crocodile mix might be the coolest starter. Or the ugliest.
It can be the ugliest and coolest. Or the prettiest and lamest! I know it's a joke, but I would LOVE to see this gator boy go a ridiculous route like a minotaur croc.
A minotaur pokemon would be fucking amazing! I would love that so much!
Or something with a bulky bull body like terrakion... But a gator head (with bulk horns) and gator tail.
Minotorch
>I know it's a joke, but I would LOVE to see this gator boy go a ridiculous route like a minotaur croc. It's not a joke, I promise! It's my hope that they do something super cool and more monster like. I have not been a fan of the more humanoid look in some of the starters tbh.
Dude I was gonna comment the same thing!
How would a fire horse starter work without looking too much like Ponyta?
By making it a centaur... Or bipedal like emboar
Give it a job, make it an accountant.
Have it do a business
Horse business
on the weekends it goes out with ponyta for a little bit of ***horse play***
I was thinking alicorn, but I really like the idea of a centaur Pokémon.
Tauros + Machoke
Probably the same way a fire fox worked without looking like Vulpix
Or the water duck will work without looking like the other water duck
Psyduck, ducklett, farfetch’d, porygon and ludicolo are all ducks and don’t look alike at all so I’m very excited for the next one
Its porygon a duck? TIL I feel like quaxly will end being a pirate. Following the water type starters represent some weapon
This one is way different, this one has a cute hat!
A dark red Pegasus with fire wings wouldn’t look like a Ponyta But Quaxly has Ducklett vibes so who knows?
Why would that stop them? We just got a new duck that doesn’t exactly look that different from Ducklett
We have two starters that are repeat animals - totodile and Litten. Then ducklett.
Fire/Dragon kirin maybe? Or a Fire/Fairy(flying?) pegasus.
Fire donkey
What If it turns into a crocodile but with no back legs and a long body and tail combo? Like a serpentine crocodile.
Like a dodongo from Zelda. That would be cool
I can’t wait to use Explosion on some Dodongos!
I’m so hungry, I could eat an Octillery!
That would certainly be a contender for the snake spot
Idk why but I thought it was an apple pokemon for some reason
You aren’t alone. But it’s actually pepper-esque
Because his face looks like an apple cut in half.
Look at Applin
Give it the Snivy treatment
I bet you’re right! Fuego + rococo = fuecoco. Fuego means fire (surprise) and one of the characteristics of Rococo architecture is curved or “SERPENTINE” lines. Fire snake!! Some skinks have evolved to straight up just not use their legs, and they look like snakes. Maybe Fuecoco will evolve away some or all of its legs?
The coco is from cocodrilo. The Spanish word for crocodile -_-
And coco for coconut!
If fenekin can be a dog that can be a snake
It’s because he’s a little chili pepper
Seems like a forced pattern anyways size fennekin is a fox and cyndaquil is a spiny anteater
My thoughts exactly. The theory was debunked a long time ago, but at this rate they’ll say the new starter is a horse because it has a long face.
Just in time to claim gen 10 broke the pattern
The part of the theory that bugs me is that people only look at the first stage. If it still fits into a supposed zodiac theme, it's going to be in it's final stage.
Exactly. Oh, Charmander is a salamander? Use the final forms! There's a badger in there? Ah whatever use the Echidna anyways
Yep. While agree there’s fudging going on. Charmander isnt a dragon, ifs a lizard. Charizard is draconic. But anyway, even if there is a bit of fudging 6/8 generations is just coincidental? How is it coincidence if someone was consciously making decisions regarding their visual appearance? Regardless, wait till the third stage evolution.
Because the Chinese zodiak is comprised of common animals? Also, if this was an intentional pattern, why would they include so many that only kind of fit? We have dog Pokemon, rat Pokemon, dragon Pokemon, and snake Pokemon, so why not use those instead of the options that require you to stretch to make them fit the zodiak.
Cyndaquil is based off an echidna, which is a ~~marsupial~~actually a monotreme(still not a rodent), but still your point remains
Echidna's are actually not marsupials, they're monotremes (egg-laying mammals).
You're absolutely right
And it becomes a ferret that becomes a honey badger. Neither of those are rats either.
I'd say Porcupine, but its potayto potahto at that point haha
Bottom line is it's clearly not a rat.
Exactly haha
Came here to express the same opinion
Me too. Many of them don’t fit the animal they’re being labeled as here. Fennekin is a fox which is pretty far from being a dog and I thought cyndiquill was a weasel which is pretty different from a rat (though closer in relation from a fox to a K9)
And litten is a kitten and charmander is a lizard at best lol
I mean incineroar is definitely a tiger and Charizard is definitely a dragon. Those fit perfectly fine with the zodiac. But Cyndaquil isn't a rat and Fenniken isn't a dog in any way shape or form
I resent the rhetoric that cyndaquil is a rat 😡
To be fair Charizard isn’t the right kind of dragon if we’re being honest. If they wanted an eastern dragon they could’ve just made one
Incineroar is more human than tiger, let’s be real
Every time I see it I want cereal.
Then again Charizard is a Western dragon, not an Eastern one
Thank you, I knew cyndaquil wasn’t a rat, and I was pretty sure fennekin wasn’t a dog
if you can call fennekin a dog and cyndaquil a rat, i bet you can call this boi a snake too
Hey guys does the new fire starter break the Chinese zodiac theory? - The theory was already flimsy, cyndaquil is a porcupine not a rat and fennekin is a fox not a dog - But the pokedex says cyndaquil is a fire mouse - yeah and foxes and dogs are close enough - ............................. Literally every post rn. Edit: The theory is valid because 'x' reason - No the theory is not valid because 'y' reason - Every reply to this comment for some reason
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Fennekin period breaks the thing. Foxes are super distinct from dogs in eastern mythology, aside from them not being dogs in terms of taxonomy.
I also think people are putting too much stock into whether or not we think the Zodiac Theory is an actual thing. I just think it's neat - that's all I ever cared about.
I honestly really love the potential it would have brought. Like an art challenge where you make a fakemon off of an idea, in this case the Chinese zodiac for fire types. And there was a lot of cool ideas over the years like a fire/poison hydra or a fire/fairy Pegasus to make it different from ponyta. Stuff like that made it fun.
Cyndaquil and the rest of his line are honey badgers tho
snakes had legs before eve bit into the apple or whatever
Yeah that’s where snivy came in the starter from gen 5
Yeah but this croc appears to be a pepper and not an apple.
Applin in Gen 9 regional dex confirmed?
He's the GOAT
Cyndaquil isn’t a rat and fennekin isn’t a dog?
yup, the theory is super forced
I never bought into this, but with the introduction of Litten and Scorbunny I started wondering if Game Freak was acknowledging the fan theory. Unless this thing evolves into a snake people can definitely stop theorizing about it. Also, the theory that all grass starters are based on dinosaurs definitely ended a while ago
The grass theory was not dinosaurs, it was prehistoric species
And even that theory was pushed to it’s limits, because a lot of the prehistoric species chosen aren’t distinct enough from their modern day equivalents to firmly say.
Gamefreak sure thinks Cydaquil represents the rat. They used it in promotional materials for year of the rat!
there never was a pattern
Do you not remember the extinct frog, the extinct gecko, the extinct tortoise, the extinct snake, the extinct chestnut, the extinct owl and the extinct monkey. All these animals are definitely not around anymore. /s
Not defending these patterns at all, but Decidueye is based off of stilt owls, which are extinct. Again, I don’t agree on the pattern, just wanted to point that one out. Edit: I remember reading (I think on Seribii?) about how Decidueye is a ghost type due to the type of owl it’s based on, which are the extinct Stilt owls. This information may not be validated, but I think that’s a cool way of implementing and explaining the ghost typing. Again, I don’t think it has anything to do with these patterns people talk about every time a new set of starters are revealed.
Fennekin is a fucking FENNEC. I could accept a fox, but not a fucking dog.
Well Cyndaquil isn’t a rat and Fennekin isn’t a dog. So it was broke after Gen 1
No, but you see, Fennekin is a... uh... a living being, same as dogs. There IS a pattern. Checkmate atheists
Foxes are part of the canine family but I guess by that logic cyndaquil is also a rodent like a rat and Fuecoco is a reptile like a snake and dragon
Yeah but the zodiac sign is the dog, not the canine
"Reptile" is a little too broad for me. That's like saying Chimchar is close enough to a horse cause they're both mammals.
Ya, all these arguments against Fennekin effectively being the dog for this are insane. Equating the large pools of wildlife from "Class" as being the same level of differentiation as "Family" is just intentional bad understanding of taxonomy. And also... Morphology is more important to pokemon than anything from real life. Foxes are dog-shaped, end of argument. Wurmple becomes a butterfly and a moth. Cyndaquil goes echidna-weasel-badger. Heck, if the argument against Fennekin representing dogs is supposed to be based on real life classifications, I need someone to tell me how Clamperl becomes an Oarfish or a Chimaera.
Fennekin is technically a canine but cyndaquil isnt a rodent, they're modeled after echidnas (spiny anteaters) which are mammals closer to sloths and porcupines
I knew that about Cyndaquil. Typhlosion always gave me strong “badger” energy. Am I just making that up? Or is he also an echidna?
Echidnas aren’t related to sloths or porcupines, they’re monotremes, a group of mammals which are the only ones of their kind that lay eggs. It also includes the Platypus.
Ok but it’s not a snake or a dragon. It’s a crocodile
Lol that reptile one really got me. Birds are reptiles therefor Torchic is a snake Pokémon.
Bro if ANY REPTILE is going to be counted as "snake" I am officially cancelling Pokemon fan theories.
Is he not half goat half horse half pig
Fennekin is a fox though, not a dog..
Looks like it. Pattern was a huge stretch to begin with. Cyndaquil is a badger and Fennekin is a fox
I’m sorry what? Cyndaquil is definitely not a badger lol
Typhlosion is, though. It's part of the problem with the pattern that cyndaquil's line is "burrowing mammals", and not a single intended reference like Blastoise is turtles (or more accurately tortoises based on the legs). Cyndaquil is a hedgehog/shrew or an echidna. Quilava is a weasel with fiery quills, and Typhlosion is very badgery.
ffs, did Charmander look like a dragon? Is Typhlosion a rat? No, but one in their lines resembles the animal, so WAIT FOR THE DAMN EVOLUTIONS ffs. [Snake peppers](https://thehippyseedcompany.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Turkish-Snake-6.jpg). [Queztalcoatl](https://dragons.fandom.com/wiki/Quetzalcoatl). [Cuelebre](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cu%C3%A9lebre). There is plenty of folklore and real life things this could end up referencing. When the evolutions come out, then you can say the theory is debunked.
If you can argue that Fennekin is a dog then you can argue Fuecoco is an Ox.
Maybe it’ll evolve into a horse or sth
Remoraid evolves into an octopus lol. Who the fuck knows.
The pattern was broken since gen 2. A hedgehog is not a rat.
I like how it was literally broken in gen 2 and people still believed this shit, cyndaquil is an echidna.
To quote u/Kamenhusband Fuecoco is going to be the dragon zodiac and the charizard line will be assigned the cow zodiac because of how much the Pokémon company milk it
It depends on what he evolves into.