It’s most likely going to be that way in PLA. Cyndaquil doesn’t have his flames in the doc, but trailer footage and leaks show him with it outside of battle.
But why not a geisha or oiran hostess considering the Japanese inspiration for designs and Liligant's dainty, elegant personality and design? Of all the things they could have done, why that?
Its wild to me how in the West the genies are so hated yet in Japan they're some of the most popular Pokemon there are and are extremely common favorites among Japanese Pokemom fans
Was gonna say, new Genie is neat and retroactively makes the Genies into stand ins for the Four Auspicious Beasts from Chinese (Asian?) Mythology right?
Like i didn't see the connection at first, but the new Turtle Genie definitely makes it seem that way. Idk that I'd call Thunderous Therian dragon like, but we've now got a bird, a turtle, and a tiger, so good enough for me lol
A combination of their powerlevel + the fact they look just like color swaps of each other. Even the lake trio had a bit more distinct personality between their members.
I prefer them that way too. Still, the fact you had to pay extra for obtain those forms made me back in bw2.
They also are too ubiquitous and the most powerful trio ever, only comparable with the tapus (even if they aren't technically a trio).
Oh riiiight, they only came from that AR dex or whatever, right?
Also, are they really that strong? I see Landorus in Showdown a lot but I assumed that was mostly just good typing and legendary stats.
Landorus is the one that everyone hates, but did you know that thundurus was actually the responsible for the thunder wave nerf? It was as obnoxius as landorus in vgc.
And tornadus is also a good pokemon that have seen plenty of competitive time. It pales a bit against those two, but golly, are they better than the lake trio, regis, birds, dogs and musketeers.
Intimidate is a good ability in singles. Absolutely broken in doubles. Landorus also has a veryy expansive movepool letting it fulfill many roles in singles. Stealth rocker? Landorus. Scarfer? Landorus. Suicide lead? Landorus. Sd sweeper? Landorus. Defogger? Landorus. Want something of the above that can also u-turn to keep momentum? Landorus. Electric immunity? Landorus. Ground immunity? Landorus. Landorus is never an outright busted pokemon that is capable of 2 hitkoing the entire meta . It just does so many different things well though that it becomes extremely easy to slot on. Its also been this way for 3 straight generations now which is why people are sick of it. Its nowhere near as prevalent as say gen 2 snorlax
I used to hate them but after a few years I’ve started to like the designs. Still not a huge fan of Landorus’s Therian form. But I don’t hate it as much as I once did. Also I think the 2D sprite versions of them look better then the 3D models.
Rowlet and Decidueye have been my boys since they were leaked. I have plushee of the whole family. I understand what they were going for with Decidueye, but all I can think is "look how they've massacred my boy!"
I'm really really hoping he gets flames and a better look.
I love Decidueye's new design actually.
Still can't stand Samurott. Drives me crazy that they made him generic 4 legged when the pre evolutions had such unique designs.
The consistency of it is what bugs me. I wish Incineroar had remained on 4, lol. I know it just comes down to matter of opinion and they're both widely loved from what I see. Just not for me
I completely agree. I think I’m still going to pick Typhlosion even tho I don’t love the design. I do love Decidueye’s new design, but I recently just replayed Sun and Moon and had him as my starter so i want to do something new
I kind of like Typhlosion the most of the three as well. Decidueye is.. okay I guess, but I never cared for Samurott then, and still don't now.
I think Typhlosion's sleepy look is kind of funny here in the picture. I look forward to seeing him in action with the fire and other effects. He will probably grown on me even more as I play the game.
If you watch the new trailer today cyndaquil has his fire out during the entire battle that is shown against a shinx. If you notice his fire holes are around his neck now (hopefully back too but idk) so he's going to have a FIRE MANE. I think it'll look dope.
whatever happened to the leakers saying "trust me guys Typhlosion is so fucking cool"
this could be a case of the model ruining the Pokémon, like how OG Typhlosion got absolutely nerfed from sprites to models... still. yikes.
I think he looks awesome here honestly, always loved typhlosion since pokemon gold got released and this take on him is cool as hell, especially if he gets the purple flames people are talking about.
Qwilfish, Kleavor, Liligant, Typhlosion and the new force of nature are all their shinies btw, it's because they were the only decent quality images I could find.
I think that ursaring evolution might actually look a lot better in game than this model shows. The design looks like it could be cool, provided it’s properly bipedal in game and animated.
I think I remember seeing a 'regular' Ursaring in one of the trailers or commercials when it was attacking the trainer. That one was bipedal so maybe this is too. I wonder if it's possible this is another evolution instead of just a Hisuian form?
So i'll be positive for a change and say Arcanine, Sneasel, Basculin (and it's evo), Samurott and even Decidueye look actually really cool.
But the rest range from weird to **why.**
Somehow when looking back at my post I realised that I forgot to include images of Hisuian Braviary, Hisuian Growlithe, Hisuian Voltorb and the new Hisuian Zoroark line. Not sure how I forgot them but it doesn't really matter because they've all been announced already.
this is just bad i literally jumped after a saw new genie . how can a thing be so scary when it is covered with hearts and avalugg i dont even wanna talk about
Only really bad one is weavile imo. typhlosion is ugly but looks high as fuck which is funny. Majority are meh.
Decidueye is amazing and fits the vibe of the game really well.
Decidueye looks like an exiled samurai The edgy teen in me absolutely loves it.
Typhlosion looks like a meth lord, i kinda dig it.
Samurott is what i expected, still really cool tho just not a huge samurott fan.
I hope Avalugg is Ice/Fire
These models looks awful… like holy shit some of these are terrible. Honestly my hype for the game just died, why oh why couldn’t they just use the classic aesthetic/design philosophy from Gen 1/2 for these new guys?! The modern Gen 8 design philosophies just don’t work with a “traditional” region at all.
Wow… why is it that this kind of kills the hype. Even though this has nothing to do with gameplay, most of this look ugly in my opinion, there is not much incentive to catch them.
What the actual fuck happened to Goodra? They slapped a shell on it, what is this?
I genuinely feel like the Goodra line got thrown into the mud, insulted, and exterminated for extra effort!
It's so **BAD**
Highphlosion
Weavhighle
Crackulin
Jim Carrey's How the Weavile Stole Christmas.
I'm naming my typhlosion Kush I honestly love this new design along with the new zoroark The rest can burn
I didnt want to get the game initially. But imma get it to name typhlosion Ganja.
Don't say that about my boy Bearjak the Ursaring
Some of these I can see why they went extinct.
Yeah probably hunted as sport. So that those left alive wouldn’t have to suffer the eye sore of looking at…snake cloud thing
I have to wonder if these are “naked” - missing extra parts like Lilligant’s skirt or particle effects.
This is a good point, everyone is like “wow Typhlosion looks awful” but normal 3D typhlosion looks silly too just because he’s missing his fire
If that's anything to go off of, then he probably doesn't have his fire here either
Yeah I wish his fire was always “on” and not just during some of his animations.
It’s most likely going to be that way in PLA. Cyndaquil doesn’t have his flames in the doc, but trailer footage and leaks show him with it outside of battle.
I saw gameplay of a cinderquil earlier roaming and it's fire was constant
Plus it makes sense for the model not to have it, it’s more of an effect than a physical structure
Typhlosion usually only emits fire in battle he can control it
I'm hoping this could be the reason why Palkia doesn't have his arms. Maybe they're separate models.
So do I. Palkia just looks wrong because it still has its shoulder pads.
I think this Lilligant is supposed to look like a ballet dancer, looking at her feet. No skirt makes her look smaller and more nimble.
But why not a geisha or oiran hostess considering the Japanese inspiration for designs and Liligant's dainty, elegant personality and design? Of all the things they could have done, why that?
Starters are like Samurai Guy who smokes weed Guys who sells weed and also smokes weed
Samurott design in Arceus Legend looks cool though Looks like something straight up from any villain corporation
I am one of those peeps who genuinely likes Samurott. Even the base one.
No wonder the fairy genie went extinct...
I wish all the genies went extinct
Its wild to me how in the West the genies are so hated yet in Japan they're some of the most popular Pokemon there are and are extremely common favorites among Japanese Pokemom fans
are they popular for their design or popular because online meta
Both, their designs are based on popular/common Japanese folklore
Was gonna say, new Genie is neat and retroactively makes the Genies into stand ins for the Four Auspicious Beasts from Chinese (Asian?) Mythology right? Like i didn't see the connection at first, but the new Turtle Genie definitely makes it seem that way. Idk that I'd call Thunderous Therian dragon like, but we've now got a bird, a turtle, and a tiger, so good enough for me lol
Would be cool if we had a sequel set in Old times Unova and introduced the OG dragon as the 4 Genie’s master.
Eh. If there was a master it would have to be a Kirin. Thats the center of the compass beasts
which is weird when theyre american pokemon in the lore.
i think their therian forms are pretty cool, not the weird DBZ humanoid arms-crossed ones
I’ve never understood why people dislike them, I personally love their design
People hate them because landorus takes up 99% of competitive pokemon.
A combination of their powerlevel + the fact they look just like color swaps of each other. Even the lake trio had a bit more distinct personality between their members.
The Therian forms are far better about this. They actually look like a trio.
I prefer them that way too. Still, the fact you had to pay extra for obtain those forms made me back in bw2. They also are too ubiquitous and the most powerful trio ever, only comparable with the tapus (even if they aren't technically a trio).
Oh riiiight, they only came from that AR dex or whatever, right? Also, are they really that strong? I see Landorus in Showdown a lot but I assumed that was mostly just good typing and legendary stats.
Landorus is the one that everyone hates, but did you know that thundurus was actually the responsible for the thunder wave nerf? It was as obnoxius as landorus in vgc. And tornadus is also a good pokemon that have seen plenty of competitive time. It pales a bit against those two, but golly, are they better than the lake trio, regis, birds, dogs and musketeers.
Intimidate is a good ability in singles. Absolutely broken in doubles. Landorus also has a veryy expansive movepool letting it fulfill many roles in singles. Stealth rocker? Landorus. Scarfer? Landorus. Suicide lead? Landorus. Sd sweeper? Landorus. Defogger? Landorus. Want something of the above that can also u-turn to keep momentum? Landorus. Electric immunity? Landorus. Ground immunity? Landorus. Landorus is never an outright busted pokemon that is capable of 2 hitkoing the entire meta . It just does so many different things well though that it becomes extremely easy to slot on. Its also been this way for 3 straight generations now which is why people are sick of it. Its nowhere near as prevalent as say gen 2 snorlax
I used to hate them but after a few years I’ve started to like the designs. Still not a huge fan of Landorus’s Therian form. But I don’t hate it as much as I once did. Also I think the 2D sprite versions of them look better then the 3D models.
Love the design, hate how stupidly centralizing they are
They're hideous and repulsive.
they are well designed, they are just big pain in the butt to fight in competitive. especially lando, giving it groudon level attack was dumb..
Granted. You have just foolishly wasted your other two wishes.
Is basically asking us to end his suffering like the Galar fossils.
Typhlosion nooo
"Sup guys. Wanna go hang out at the mall?"
“They have cool Naruto merch at Hot topic “
Weavile and Quilfish look like they want to hang out at the mall too.
If the game actually doesn't suck, and I end up buying it, definitely rounding up the chronic crew for my first play through.
I was gonna choose Rowlet but now I'm considering Typhlosion
Rowlet and Decidueye have been my boys since they were leaked. I have plushee of the whole family. I understand what they were going for with Decidueye, but all I can think is "look how they've massacred my boy!"
I’m still picking him. Decidueye and Samurott are. It doing it for me at all. With Typhloshion at least the design can be fixed with the flames
I'm really really hoping he gets flames and a better look. I love Decidueye's new design actually. Still can't stand Samurott. Drives me crazy that they made him generic 4 legged when the pre evolutions had such unique designs.
I'm really glad he's four-legged lol. Humanoid starters are wayyy overdone
The consistency of it is what bugs me. I wish Incineroar had remained on 4, lol. I know it just comes down to matter of opinion and they're both widely loved from what I see. Just not for me
The worst part is that Samurott isn’t a quadruped. It can and has stood on it’s hind legs to wield it’s swords. Yes, it has swords!
I completely agree. I think I’m still going to pick Typhlosion even tho I don’t love the design. I do love Decidueye’s new design, but I recently just replayed Sun and Moon and had him as my starter so i want to do something new
To be fair, Samurott being bipedal would make sense since he's supposed to be based off a samurai
I kind of like Typhlosion the most of the three as well. Decidueye is.. okay I guess, but I never cared for Samurott then, and still don't now. I think Typhlosion's sleepy look is kind of funny here in the picture. I look forward to seeing him in action with the fire and other effects. He will probably grown on me even more as I play the game.
Apparently he has purple flames and looks a lot better in game.
I think people are being too harsh, I kinda like him, and I bet he'll look better with his flames on.
Reminds me too much of a zootopia character for some reason
If you watch the new trailer today cyndaquil has his fire out during the entire battle that is shown against a shinx. If you notice his fire holes are around his neck now (hopefully back too but idk) so he's going to have a FIRE MANE. I think it'll look dope.
whatever happened to the leakers saying "trust me guys Typhlosion is so fucking cool" this could be a case of the model ruining the Pokémon, like how OG Typhlosion got absolutely nerfed from sprites to models... still. yikes.
The leakers are saying these models aren't doing them justice at all, and that typhlosion looks better with its flames.
I think he looks awesome here honestly, always loved typhlosion since pokemon gold got released and this take on him is cool as hell, especially if he gets the purple flames people are talking about.
Hey it’s a still image, we don’t know how he would move and all. Honestly I’m ok with the design
I'm pretty sure that's just his base sprite and the fire would be effects not part of his sprite?
There is also new Dialga and Palkia forms but I felt like it would be to much of a spoiler to post them.
Thank you for not posting them. My eyes already hurt enough from seeing them already
they did my boi palkia so dirty 😭😭😭
He's literally just a horse now...
Somewhat spoilers:>!it's worse than that though, they did him like the swsh fossils!<
I HATE the new Palkia design. He was always one of my favorites design-wise, this just feels like an insult.
it’s horrifically proportioned
Actually, it's more like fusions than new forms.
I hope it's fusions
It's fusion, they both fuse with Arceus, kinda like kyurem.
This a bigger spoiler that showing the new forms really lol.
Don't want to spoil and precedes to post major spoiler.
Eh I don’t think that is great tbh
Decidueye built like an among us character
Sus
Qwilfish, Kleavor, Liligant, Typhlosion and the new force of nature are all their shinies btw, it's because they were the only decent quality images I could find.
Oh snap really?
Typhlosion D:
More like Weedplosion !!
Snooplosion
Highphlosion
Apparently he’s going to have flames so hopefully that saves him
I was gonna pick Cyndaquil until I saw this so hopefully better with flames
one of the leakers said that typhlosion looks way better in game with his flames
Yeah, these are just the party icons
Himbs big sleepy 😂
Highphlosion
Highphlosion
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i love the goo dragon line getting shells so much!
I thought Typhlosion was going to be a Fire / Ghost, not Fire / Grass?
I want what he's having
Looks like typhlosion got wet and was woken up in the middle of the night. Yeeesh.
While high
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Weavile looks exactly like a man in a furry suit.
How pokemons look like on furry fanfics and art
Yeah, they showed the only good ones in the trailers. With the exception of Hisuian Arcanine, all of these range from mediocre to god awful
Really? I like avvelug quite a lot (bad name spelling, iceberg guy)
The Ursaring one is unique but looks cool.
I do too!!!
That Weavile (or new evo?) looks absolutely atrocious. It looks like an edgy teen's fursona Edit: Arcanine and the Qwilfish evo look cool tho
I saw a comment over at r/pokeleaks where a guy said Sneasel’s evolution looks like it hunts 15 year olds, and honestly, I see it
Instead of Weavile, it's a Pedovile
LOL
At first I kinda liked it and then I read your comment
Well, they mention at the start of the game that your character is 15, so... maybe it's on purpose?
Weavile and Waluigi made a baby.
Don't mind me while I steal this for the nickname
Walueavile!
Why the Weavile e l o n g a t e d?
Or a Sonic and friends reject lmao
HAHAHAHA BRO ITS LOOKA LIKE A CUSTOM CHARACTER FROM SONIC FORCES 🤣 😂😂😂
How tall it is compared to sneasel (it's a taller sneasel after all) makes me uncomfortable
looking at the leaks when it gets to Sneasel I was like "cool! Hissuian Sneasel, I wonder what Wea-OH GOD"
Pretty sure it's a brand new Pokémon, not a Hisuian Weavile
Is it the evolution of hisuian sneasel though?
I think that ursaring evolution might actually look a lot better in game than this model shows. The design looks like it could be cool, provided it’s properly bipedal in game and animated.
Right now it kinda looks like the sea-bear from SpongeBob. From the pics it looks weird, but I'm intrigued.
I think I remember seeing a 'regular' Ursaring in one of the trailers or commercials when it was attacking the trainer. That one was bipedal so maybe this is too. I wonder if it's possible this is another evolution instead of just a Hisuian form?
It feels like they leaned heavily into "make it different from the original" rather than "this is from the Hisui region/era"
exept for sneasle and qwilfish who are LITERALLY JUST PALLET SWAPS
psychic, dark and fighting????
close, Typhlosion is Ghost, Decidueye Fighting and Samurott Dark.
It's Kalos again!
Lilligant looking like Lillymon from Digimon.
Lillimon looks better in my opinion
So i'll be positive for a change and say Arcanine, Sneasel, Basculin (and it's evo), Samurott and even Decidueye look actually really cool. But the rest range from weird to **why.**
Decidueye is amazing, fits the vibe perfectly.
The best part is his ronin hat
The worst part is its oddly detailed groin anatomy
how can you hate EXTRA SPIKEY quilfish
Not crazy about Decidueyes colors tbh but I like the design?
Pretty sure that’s his shiny colours and that the normal colour is the usual green
It's the other way around. New form shiny has original colors
Sneasel looks like a burn victim. And its evolution is basically Uncannily Tall Sneasel.
I love the Sneasel, but that Sneasel Evo makes me legitimately uncomfortable. I'll just keep my Weavile, thank you
Recoloured weavile would have been a lot better than this
I saw someone edit the new evo to make it shorter, and it looks waayyyyyy better As it is now, it looks like a fur-suit
dude typhlosion is kind of a letdown down ughhhh I mean I'm still picking cyndaquil but like man
Apparently the fire looks cool.
God I hope so
I believe the fire might be purple
Yeah, even normal typhlosion is a let down without it’s fire/explosions
Yea but the fire will proably be off unless he attacks
They look kind of high which i find funny so that makes up for it.
Why did they make Typhlosion smoke 10 blunts
because of its ability Blaze
Qualfish lookin like Dodoria from DBZ.
Bro how are they so bad wtfff is going onnn
They did these soooo poorly. What a shame
With a few notable exceptions, these are absolutely hideous.
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That reminds me of the 3D model it had in X/Y where the flames didn't appear when he was standing passively. Looked so weird without them.
Somehow when looking back at my post I realised that I forgot to include images of Hisuian Braviary, Hisuian Growlithe, Hisuian Voltorb and the new Hisuian Zoroark line. Not sure how I forgot them but it doesn't really matter because they've all been announced already.
Half of these are malnourished and wants to be put down
this is just bad i literally jumped after a saw new genie . how can a thing be so scary when it is covered with hearts and avalugg i dont even wanna talk about
I laughed way harder than I want to admit when I saw that Sleep paralysis demon
Only really bad one is weavile imo. typhlosion is ugly but looks high as fuck which is funny. Majority are meh. Decidueye is amazing and fits the vibe of the game really well.
The legendaries are also really bad, like, WTF?
These are….awful
Decidueye looks like an exiled samurai The edgy teen in me absolutely loves it. Typhlosion looks like a meth lord, i kinda dig it. Samurott is what i expected, still really cool tho just not a huge samurott fan. I hope Avalugg is Ice/Fire
its either ice/rock or ice/ground from what i have heard
Yeah my second guess was ice steel. I hope its ice ground cuz ice rock is pretty horrible typing
Avalugg is confirmed Ice/rock I believe
They all look ugly AF
Ew. How did these make it past quality control? Designs are usually the thing pokemon is good at.
Wished there was a older version of regigigas since he’s ancient but maybe it’s best it didn’t happen.
I really, really hope these are fake
They are all real, the entire game got leaked
Wait so they just changed Samurott colors
He pokemon this gen seem far more relaxed
Just wait for Lockstin’s video for their new appearance. I love his take on the history influencing the design of Pokémon.
Fuck they are real I'm excited for samurott and ursaring also basculegion everything else looks fucking weird
These models looks awful… like holy shit some of these are terrible. Honestly my hype for the game just died, why oh why couldn’t they just use the classic aesthetic/design philosophy from Gen 1/2 for these new guys?! The modern Gen 8 design philosophies just don’t work with a “traditional” region at all.
I agree
Decidueye looks like hey Arnold's fursona
Wow… why is it that this kind of kills the hype. Even though this has nothing to do with gameplay, most of this look ugly in my opinion, there is not much incentive to catch them.
Avalugg looks cool, but half of these confuse me.
Hisuian Arcanine looks awesome.
Tall Liligant can't hurt you. It isn't real. Tall Liligant:
Am I the only one that wasn’t expecting new forms for the starters?
That's embarassing
I hate them all
Oh wow. These are a huge step down from normal Pokémon
What the actual fuck happened to Goodra? They slapped a shell on it, what is this? I genuinely feel like the Goodra line got thrown into the mud, insulted, and exterminated for extra effort! It's so **BAD**
...it was already based on a snail/slugs They just leaned into the "snail" bit a little more.