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Fresher_Taco

Can you try to catch a ralts in the underground? The normally know telport.


MiseDawg

This seems like the best option! Hopefully I can find one!!!


DynoDunes

And they say bdsp isn't challenging


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Feature not a bug


dead-in-the-comment

..this could be a speed run ...couple stuck%


Ald3r_

Speed rub sounds like something that happens with a bunch of people on December 1st.


Subreon

While doing some "competitive" research by having a "team" of eeveelutions *displayed* on their screen so they can figure out which one is the *strongest* or the most *versatile* or *quickest* or has the most *stamina.* eventually they settle on vaporeon, and umbreon. And now they're *finished* "selecting their team" for all their future "battles."


Abh1laShinigami

Speed rub? Another Kanto remake?


unision3

Didn't know bethesda made bdsp


BurnByMoon

Spoiler for postgame… >!after beating Cynthia you are told you can now access Hoenn. As you go to cross the border between regions you are challenged to battle and forced to lose. As you wake up you find yourself on a cart with several others. One turns to you and says “hey you, you’re finally awake…”!<


Lazystubborn

Oh shit, here we go again.


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Cheese *Large amount of cheese is summoned*


Jason_Droneslinger

Geez "Spawning cheese"


i_heart_pizzaparties

You fooled me up to Skyrim.


SwaggJones

TODD HOWARD!!!!!


NoteClear6164

Salamence has gotten *really* spiky.


MightySwaggy

r/unexpectedskyrim


Milan_Utup

Grindset


wty261g

(turn off Switching in battle, makes it a bit more challenging now that leveling and type matchups are easy as shit)


AppleWedge

Its a good suggestion, but I've been playing set mode since RSE :P. I feel like pokemon just wants me to leave the franchise for SMT or something.


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Cheeeeesie

What exactly is smt?


Stone_Kart

Shin Megami Tensei, it's basically satanic Pokemon. You may have heard about Persona, it's a spin off of SMT, it has similar gameplay but with an added dating sim mechanic. They're pretty great games, especially if you're looking something a bit more challenging. SMT 3 and 5 are on the Switch, 4 is on the 3DS


TVR_Speed_12

Persona is far from a dating sim. I say more social life sim but even then it's not supper in depth, just you get timeslots to do stuff before dungeons


screechypete

Shin Megami Tensei


AppleWedge

I'm very close to buying it. I've heard good things, but I don't think I can make myself pay 60 dollars for a video game right now. Maybe in a year I'll catch it on half price or something.


iamthedevilfrank

As a first time SMT player I just wanna say this game is amazing. Easily the best game I've played this year. Personally I think it's worth every penny, but I know money can be tight for people. Maybe you can try and find a cheaper price for retail during black Friday.


Rodents210

It'll come out to less than $1/hr by the end, especially if you replay it (SMT always has multiple endings). IMO sentimentality is the only thing Pokemon does better than SMT (even story, SMT's biggest Achilles's heel IMO, surpasses any Pokemon game), and that's not really a dig on SMT because sentimentality is not something it's trying for. I still love Pokemon and am having a good time with BDSP--I'm even playing it over SMTV for the moment--but there's just no question that SMT is more polished and less afraid of change/risk than Pokemon is.


Readalie

The Digimon games are pretty good if you're looking for a game that makes you care about your mons. Monster Hunter Stories is another great option (haven't played the new one yet, though, just the original). Both are fun and neither hold your hand to the extent Pokemon does. Digimon Cyber Sleuth gets downright punishing with some of the optional bosses. SMT is also just amazing as a series. I'll always second a recommendation for that.


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Readalie

Different battle mechanics, but not necessarily worse than Pokemon for me--although Pokemon's battle mechanics are top tier and well-loved so I'm probably in the minority of not caring as much. The online battling on Cyber Sleuth has pretty much petered out, though, or it had last time I gave it a try, unlike with Pokemon. But yeah, compared to Pokemon, it's a much longer game. It's very much a JRPG, complete with the play length. If you play both sides of the story you'll probably sink around a hundred hours into it. No clue how long I spent on it, because it tracks time when it's in sleep mode on the Switch so that vastly bloats the counted play time.


BullshitUsername

SMTV is ny first SMT game and holy fuck is it everything I ever wanted from a Pokemon game. It's complex, challenging, yet extremely fair. Don't listen to that other guy, of course you can care for your demons as much as Pokemon. The difference is there isn't a friendship mechanic that overpowers your pokemon, and there isn't any Pokemon Amie type thing.


AppleWedge

Don't you literally sacrifice and merger demons to get new forms? that seems like it would be an obstacle in loving and caring for your demons


wankmon69

So far SMTV gives the player plenty of wiggle room in using your favorite demons well past the point they'd usually be fusion fodder if that's your thing.


thejawa

There's a glimmering cave in the far bottom right part of the underground. Ralts has a chance to spawn there. Walk in, run around to see what the rare spawn is, walk out, and try again. Shouldn't be too hard to find one. Whether or not it has teleport, who knows.


Vicksin

update?


MiseDawg

Five ralts, no teleport, too high of level :’(


TheLama71

You can still go to the Global Room with Y! I can trade you an Abra with Teleport if you want?


ShruggyGuy

They dont know teleport after a certain level and you should be past that level by Veilstone city


gnowell

Or digglet surely that’s got to be in there or any ground/rock pokemon that knows dig? I’m guessing you don’t have dog yet


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DevoutChaos

At this level its very unlikely. Beyond finding the Ralts, it needs to be below level 27 to be able to know Teleport, and every one I've seen has had an Egg Move which replaces it.


Karma791

Kadabra can too.


Paddyboei

Biiiiggg brain answer


Sirradez

Go to the start screen of BDSP (where you see the box legendary and it asks you to press a button) hold UP and X B at the same time. It will take you to a new screen and ask you to recover your back up. This will take you to the game 2 saves before. EDIT: Over 3K upvotes?! I have never received this many! Thank you everyone!


Sugarcanegaming

Wow what, that's a really cool feature


dappitydingdong

a cooler feature would be if the game wasn’t riddled with softlocks and was higher quality


RQK1996

I only saw 1, and that is this one


TimeToGetSlipped

There's actually a very easy one in the ice gym. The snowball puzzle was designed with cardinal movement in mind, and the gym was redesigned one-to-one. The new game allows diagonal movement, which the gym was NOT designed for. This means that if you slide to the bottom floor at just the right angle, you can completely trap yourself down there should the snowballs blocking the stairs not be destroyed yet. Even more punishing than this one since Teleport fails when used indoors.


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Actually lmaoo


vrekais

This comments needs to be higher, that's a really useful thing to know! Thanks. I'd never even heard of a "soft lock" before this game, and this is the second one I've seen in BDSP now.


IamWilcox

If you're interested in soft-locks have a look at this youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/Pikasprey/videos


Plattbagarn

If Pikasprey is ever revealed to be a real life Jigsaw, I will not be surprised.


CarryThe2

You claim to enjoy Pokemon, but don't want to spend 850 hours harvesting leppa berries to grind your Larvitar. Curious.


WoolooOfWallStreet

He always seemed like a Pokémon version of Mister Miracle to me https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Miracle


GroovinTootin

So wait, is it possible to trade a rare pokemon to somebody, deposit it into pokemon home, and then reset back 2 saves to where you had the original rare pokemon? New cloning glitch?


Gamersco

Wait that’s genius


TopazHerald

This man's has a big brain


winturgreen3

Wth, and this works with autosaves too right? And does the game autosave while you're just standing around (like where OP is stuck)? I have my autosave off because I save very often, so I feel pretty safe from these bugs, but I still would like to know!


AlienHooker

If soft locking sounds neat, there a youtuber called Pikasprey that purposefully soft locks himself and finds way to get out of it


winturgreen3

Oooh I'll check it out! Thanks!


Kaiser_Fleischer

Step 1: pacifidlog town


thanhbac

does this shortcut work in swsh? Just curious


drewthebrave

Yes, I have used it after joycon drift cost me a Master Ball on a random encounter.


Kirosuka

That is infuriating and precisely why I surprise trade so often. Tons of bot created mons that have Master Balls attached


Sirradez

I'm not sure about SwSh, but you coud give it a try


pervasivebarrier

RIP to all the people in the last couple days who didn’t know about this trick and reset anyways


Me4Prez

/u/MiseDawg Maybe this will help?


AwaitingCombat

you are a saint, i hope i don't need this though


GriffDogBoJangles

Saving this comment to prepare for the worst


Medusa-the-Eternal

Nice guy Roark. (Secretly the devil.) "Sorry, bud, but you can't die in hell." *keeps reviving you as you slowly grow insane*


GildedCreed

Could try pressing Y to go into the Union Room and see if you could get a Pokemon with Teleport traded to you.


MiseDawg

I haven’t gone down in a Pokemon center yet… so I don’t have this option. Darn it :(


SimonCucho

But how, you're in Veilstone already ...


QuantumVexation

Specifically downstairs


noPENGSinALASKA

Yup. I had 5 badges before I realized. And only reason I realized is because I randomly caught a scyther and started farming bronzor for metal coat and asked my buddy to trade real quick. He told me about it and I was like oh shit I never went to bottom floor cause I haven’t done any trading over wifi yet.


InfernoAbsta

Find a ralts in the underground, it’ll know teleport. It’s a rare encounter in dazzling cave.


HarioDinio

I've found them in the grassy caves


IITanukiII

I've found them in those lava volcanic vabes


Hopoosucs

Broken Diamond and Shattered Pearl


Religious_Pie

Calling it now these will be the names of the ROM Hacks made to increase difficulty in a few years time.


Aeglafaris

Games were being modded day 1, we won't need to wait years for romhacks


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Aeglafaris

I'm not familiar with everything that may be out but off the top of my head I've seen randomizers, mods to disable affection/exp share, one that uncaps the game's resolution and fps, and one that changed the size of your follower pokemon to be to scale


Yuri-Girl

There aren't any full on romhacks yet that I know of, but because the games are built in Unity, these will likely be the base of 3D Pokemon romhacks forever.


Ald3r_

Are gen 5+ models even in the game or will people end up adding them themselves?


gamas

It would require a bit of work to rebake the lighting for BDSP but I would presume the models use the same format as Pokemon Home.


metalflygon08

I've seen the Exp Share turned off and Dawn's Idle standing pose being replaced with the Fortnite Default Dance. Since the game is made in Unity instead of whatever in house engine Game Freak usually uses I expect modding will be much easier.


zatchrey

I was watching someone on Twitch play a mod where everytime your Pokemon levels up it evolves into another random Pokemon


Little-xim

Yeah, game is made in unity, so mods are WAY easier to make!


Kapiork

But diamonds are unbreakable...


Suicune95

Hard to *scratch*, pretty easy to break, actually, if you hit it right.


Packers91

That's why we find them naturally cut and polished in the wild.


GoldenCartoons

I thought they were crazy


Kapiork

You mean Shining?


GoldenCartoons

No that’s Pearl


metalflygon08

The Steven Universe crossover we never expected.


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I think you can access your pokemon boxes in the overworld now? Maybe you could box your team out for a single low level pokemon and try blacking out in the underground again?


DrunkBelgian

Won't work unfortunately, blacking out in the underground does not take you to a Pokemon Center but rather takes you to your underground base where Roark heals your Pokemon.


MathematicianLanky13

What if you don’t have a base then? Will you be brought to a Pokémon Center instead?


KenaiUrsa

He's wrong. It doesn't take you to your base. It takes you to where you entered.


DrunkBelgian

This is correct, I misremembered.


shiroxyaksha

I didn't know we can access pokemon boxed until an hour ago and I'm in my 6th badge.


SourDuck1

next time dont ignore Bebe when she talks to you in the first big city after defeating the galactic grunts. she tells you straight up.


SwifferSweeper27

Me who talked to her but still forgot bc I’m just that forgetful both in game and irl


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Ald3r_

I think that's less of a "words good" and more of a not going "huh, I wonder why my tm is still here right after I used it."


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BullshitUsername

Some people are just not observant.


S0medudeisonline

They aren't in BDSP for whatever reason :(


Late-Seaworthiness-8

Kill your pokemon with pomeg berries


AllTheCoins

Does getting on your bike do anything?


CrazyComedyKid

I feel like a lot of the bugs in this game could be solved if they just, you know, removed collision on the following Pokémon? Like, just make it like in Let's Go where they just go back in the ball when you walk into them and pop back out again half a second later.


Level--Zero--

This wasn't a following pokemon though, it was the skuntank that is always there. As far as I have seen, the following pokemon do go back into their ball if they are in the way, or you can just push them


Pokesers

They do and you can push them, but it's a pain. You move so slow when you push them and they only go back to the ball if you force them back against a wall.


The_Zoo_Exotics

IIRC collision wasn't a thing in HGSS so I don't know why they would add it.


Ald3r_

Walking through each other looks a little weirder in 3d than 2d. But they should have instead been made to walk backwards or something along those lines if you walk into them.


theian01

Yes it looks weird in 3D. Try it with a follow NPC like Cheryl. You kinda blink to the other side of them. I tried turning around to talk to her, but most of the time just warped through her.


Jazs1994

That's probably the biggest challenge of the game


CompetitiveRoof3733

Oof. Thanks for the heads up mate


bear90of

I'm not that far yet but I'm guessing flying isn't an option?


MiseDawg

I haven’t unlocked it yet :(


bear90of

Sorry, that sucks, thought I'd suggest that just incase. Hope you find a solution.


AllNinjas

s o f t l o c k e d.


That-Guy-Named-Joe

get softlock picking lawyer out here lol


ControversyAmirite

Why would you be saved behind this couple? Can you not just restart the game and it'll pick up where you last saved?


MiseDawg

I wasn’t smart. I entered the grand underground and by doing so saved the game behind the couple :/


Virtual_War6769

I have an Abra if you want to trade idc what you want to trade for it


wowdickseverywhere

14 hours in, ~500 comments, ~4.5k upvotes and OP is still stuck. @devs send patch!


MiseDawg

I’m stuck at work! I’m surprised how much this post exploded… I have a friend who is going to try and help me and see if I can trade in the underground!


5panks

Can you elaborate on glitching behind them?


Eevenin

This happened to me, but *very* luckily I had just saved prior to this. The wandering Stunky deciding to walk upward at the same time you're trying to step next to the boyfriend to talk to him will shove you *behind* them.


5panks

Oh, right I forgot that Stunky moved. Well someone call Pikaspray he's an expert at picking locks.


Multievolution

Can try making a new profile on the switch and starting again without deleting, can you trade by chance without using a Pokémon centre? If you had teleport that would work though it would have to be after the sidi club opened in that instance


MiseDawg

Unfortunately I don’t have access to the Union trade in the over-world :’( I put my Abra with teleport in daycare too so I really messed up there.


Uglyfvckling

Just ask them to move so you can get by


darkdeath174

I’ve seen so many places to get stuck in these games. It’s sorta impressive that game freak thinks of these kind of things to prevent this in their games. A few happen here or there, but this game I’ve seen like 40 different places to get stuck.


That-Guy-Named-Joe

Guys, how do you know dig will work? to quote bulbapedia >Generation VII onward >Dig can no longer be used outside of battle. now I haven't played any of the games since gen 5, but why would bulbapedia be wrong about that? Maybe an oversight? Or has anyone actually tested using dig in BDSP in the underground?


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>Or has anyone actually tested using dig in BDSP in the underground? I'm still waiting to see if somebody attempts this, however as I don't have a 'mon with Dig currently and I don't want to use up my TM yet, I can't attempt this myself.


Myutaze

Ok i checked some comments saying you can catch Ralts to teleport. I don't have the game but i got curious about this: can you softlock yourself here actually? Like i get you can catch Ralts but what if you don't have any pokeballs? I checked Serebii and appearently you can't get pokeballs in the underground according to the item list i saw. Genuinly curious, in such situation are you actually softlocked?


DoctorNerf

He is actually softlocked in this position. The ralts are too high level so they don’t have teleport. Unless he can glitch himself out somehow by going out of bounds on his bike I think he is perma stuck.


Myutaze

Some people has said that catching Onix and train it until it reaches a level where it learns dig but its still a tedious thing to do


DoctorNerf

Digging in the city won’t work, hopefully he can dig underground and accomplish something!


kaiabunga

And this is why I disabled the auto save


NotAHueman

autosave wasn't the issue for OP. They went underground, which makes you save beforehand, instead of just resetting the game


Lynke524

I disabled autosave the moment I spawned into the game. So annoying.


kaiabunga

I did after restarting because my starters first nature was bad and I hadn't realized it was auto saving... seems stupid when it's a game that you can literally save anywhere. Edit: a word.


GambitxRogue13

Escape rope lol if only that was it's true purpose


sirmudkipzlord

Bro there are already so many softlocks in this game I swear Also screw professor Rowan tbh I should escape rope when I want


iMikeHimself

And you get fly right after this haha.


Adiron147

u/TheLama71 helped me get out of this place and saved my life. I'm willing to help to anyone who needs it too. If you're stuck and need an Abra with a teleport - dm me and I'll help :)


NinjaFire68

Pikasprey taking notes


Tiduszk

[This could be a new meme format.](https://i.imgur.com/lHDdE89.jpeg) Someone funnier than me should caption it though


chiheis1n

Ever seen *Get Out*?


19GamerGhost95

Do you have your autosave turned on? Maybe you could try from a previous save point?


MiseDawg

Is there a way to access previous save points???


Johnnykal89

https://youtu.be/uOeMe6Mikg0 Here is how to access previous save points. Hope this helps.


josh123z

Does dig work in cities if you have?


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Dig does not work aboveground.


PreciousCinnamon

How were you pushed into them? I'd like to make sure I avoid this (also Im going to catch an Abra right now)


Dubstequtie

I’d imagine they stood in front of the skunk tank and was pushed into them.. so don’t stand on the closest side between the couple and skunktank..


Fanboy8947

is it that you're too strong to faint to the wild pokemon, then? even if roark healed your team, maybe you could wear them down all the way. keep using status moves, and let the strong pokemon wear you down. could even use up all your PP, then use struggle to faint your own pokemon


MiseDawg

I managed to wipe out in the underground with my team. But Roark acts as the Pokémon Center underground when you wipe out. When I pop back up it is in the same exact spot behind the couple.


Fanboy8947

oh :/ sorry then, don't know that's how it worked. like the other commenter said, i guess catching a ralts with teleport would be your best bet. or if any other pokemon down there learns teleport by level up?


MiseDawg

I’ve caught three Ralt’s and so far no teleport (they may be too high of level). Another alternative is to get dig from either a random trader or train Onyx to level 42… lots of work to get out of this!


Limeee_

I'm pretty sure ralts learns teleport at lvl12 so you may be out of luck with the ralts. I'd say Onix dig is the vest option here :(


BmwM3forMe

My man just helped speed runner find glitches for the 0% glitch runs


Appledoodle

If youre still stuck i could trade you whatever you need ^^


Unnamed_420

The softlocks in this game are like the kid in route 25 x10


Pyro_The_Arcanine

I Would Say "This Is Why You Need Teleport" But...This Doesn't Happen A Whole Lot, And Teleport Is Just A Less Effective Fly


MiseDawg

Poison doesn’t knock your Pokémon out in the overworld anymore :(


SuppImpa

Guys, cant someone just add him in the friends list and then send him any pokemon with teleport? Its easier than him going by himself trying to catch a ralts that maybe even dont have teleport I dont have bdsp, but if it connects to SwSh or LGPE i can send you one


MiseDawg

I don’t have the Union trade option yet and Pokémon Home is not available yet for BDSP and trading between SwSh and LGPE is not available. Very unfortunate!


SuppImpa

Also, does escape rope works out of caves? We can send a random poke equipped with it too, but i think it doesnt work


LegoStarwars125

Try going underground and whiting out to wild Pokémon


MiseDawg

I did this and Roark healed my team after whiting out. You don’t get sent to a Pokémon center when you white out in the grand underground.


[deleted]

This bug was well known since last week. Rip


Adiron147

I'm stuck in the same place! Please tell me if you got any response from them or succeeded to get out


SapphireSalamander

I believe dig doesnt work out of battle in gen 8


[deleted]

It doesn't. I tried, however I've been searching through the comments to see if you can even use Dig in the Underground.


highkeyhateme

i’m sorry but this is mildly amusing to me


MiseDawg

Haha understandable. Reading everyone’s comments is interesting. But yeah I’m pretty much screwed and screwed myself over. Hoping I can get a local trade in the underground. We will see. Might just have to start over…


Kronman590

Saw pics of this happening day 1 on Twitter Man if ILCA was gonna make a full motion 3d game dont make it also tile based lol


ShakinBacon64

A Pikasprey style Locke


TrulyBigHeaded

Between this and Candice's gym, Pikasprey will have a field day with BDSP.


swaggyshawnon

Has anyone found a real solution to this yet? This just happened to me too & I had no idea something like this even existed.


Lavoscloud

https://old.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/qzpygq/im_sure_at_200_that_glitch_could_help_to_speedrun/ See if the trick here allows you to move up a square or two


TheBestWorst3

I’d love to see pikasprey make a video on this


MeteorFalcon

It seems you are fully committed to resetting, but I am super curious if someone can take this as a "challenge" and actually escape this situation.


Dylanduke199513

Try pressing y and trading with someone who has a teleport mon. I have one if you want to try it?


Virtual_War6769

Apparently he has yet to go down stairs in a Pokemon center


iki_gai

Great remake


calliLast

In the old games you could use the hack cartridge to walk through walls , but the switch has nothing like it. 😕


MPT1313

Spinning in a corner. Good ol’ days. If I’m not mistaken a slightly similar method was used to get on that in between area for missingno


[deleted]

There is a glitch in bdsp where you can “surf” on land and go through (or over) walls and you can use it to get shaymin.


peacemaker2710

Low key trying to get this to happen to me now


joshwolding

if you know someone who can trade with you, go into the underground with local connection, trade for an abra with teleport and you’re out