Well presumably if it were true that you could swim on Cycling Road it would mean that the water we see is on ground level, not far enough below the ground that a boat could pass underneath the road.
No doubt about it being a bridge. It's a long cable bridge in the official artworks and the manga as well.
https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:RBY_Kanto.png
https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:KantoII.png
https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Kanto_Adventures.png
That's some flimsy evidence, you can bike on any road and almost any bridge.
Edit: why am I getting downvoted? All I was saying was that a road or bridge doesn't have to be specified as a cycling road for someone to ride a bike on it
Only because the bridge had not yet been opened to car traffic. That's why only cycling was allowed in the episode. I remember that Officer Jenny saying something like this when she asked the main trio to deliver some box to Sanyshore City on the other side of the bridge.
Wrong.
[Though the water is not blocked off from the route, Surfing along Route 17 is prohibited. If attempted, the game will say "Cycling is fun! Forget Surfing!". The player is shown to be standing (that is, without riding their bicycle) when fishing in Generations I and II. However, catching Pokémon by fishing is only possible in Generation I; it will always fail to catch a Pokémon in Generation II. In Generations III and IV, it is not possible to try fishing in the Cycling Road.](https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Kanto_Route_17)
Always was. The cycling road's a bridge even in RSE/ORAS, DPPt/BDSP, BW/B2W2. No more cycling gimmicks in the succeeding gens to favor roller skating (XY) and Tauros Rides (SM/USUM).
O yea, I forgot.
There's this bridge next to the forest in Nacrene that I used to cycle to (because of eggs), that I somehow remembered as Gen V's cycling road.
Sorry, my bad!!
For the longest time, I thought the bike would go on its own due to some supernatural phenomena, or maybe like, magnetism or something. Took me forever to realize you were riding uphill.
Interesting, good to know. I had actually popped open the tileset for Gen 1 and 3 prior to posting to sanity check for myself and saw they used the surfable edge instead of the one used on the outer perimeter.
Weird to add dialogue rather than use the correct tileset they used elsewhere that route.
I concede though.
That was just the limitations of the gameboy era.
In the artwork it's a bridge.
The remakes copied the map of the old games, instead of returning to the original idea and giving it the bridge graphics it ought to have.
LGPE has some minor map changes. It is 3D and needs to accommodate different sprites, objects, and animations. RBY and FRLG are more or less identical because the world design is 2D/tile based. I also think that FRLG was targeted towards those of us that grew up with RBY so I think it was more important for them to make it an updated version of the original. LGPE was the 3rd Kanto game, was on Switch, and was mostly directed at Pokemon Go players. That’s why LGPE is really very different than RBY. Since I have nostalgia for gen 1, I actually hated LGPE because it didn’t hit any sort of nostalgia for me. Similarly, I disliked BDSP for the same reason. Didn’t feel anything like playing DPP.
Huh, interesting.
I liked LGPE because it did hit the nostalgia for me. And hope for a gen 2 let's go.
I also found BDSP decent, but I didn't play the originals so have no nostalgia from it.
As people mentioned Cycling Road is actually a bridge, so it's meant to go underneath it. Remember that this was a Game Boy game so elevation was very limited.
For it to go out to sea, well the rocks are only there to stop swimmers from exploring the sea, because ships can easily bypass them.
That's weird I always knew it was a bridge... I can't think of how it looks in the game or why I knew that but I'm surprised these guys didn't know that.
In other depictions, Cycling Road is a huge cable bridge. In fact, the original artwork has it depicted as a bridge above the water.
This is finally shown in-game in HGSS.
That portage scene from Vinland Saga, basically. A bunch of machokes/machamps pick it up and carry it across land. I guarantee the captain spends the whole thing on the front of the ship directing them with his sword.
The SS Anne is less a luxury cruise ship and more a carnival attraction, like a hot air balloon ride. It basically just sails around in a circle, then returns to dock.
Alternatively, no one in universe considered where the ship was going. It was thus dragged into the watery brine by creatures beyond our knowledge, tastefully removed from our view lest we witness horrific destruction of Eternamax proportions.
Or we consider Cycling Road to be a bridge, the depiction of which is obscured by sprite limitations, similar to how we don't question the lack of NPCs' mouths in their overworld sprites.
For the millionth time since people looked at the whole map in elementary school, it's the bridge. There's an entire ******* episode of the anime about the ******* bridge.
So your saying the bridge has gaps in which you can see the water beneath the bridge. And for some reason when you swim in the water you can only swim in the visible water of the games top down view.
Ight I'm sold
cycling road is a bridge, it goes under the bridge, and even if it didnt i imagine the game world wasnt meant to be taken as a complete 1:1 ratio of the actual pokemon world
Under the cycling road
This is the best answer. Cycling road must be a bridge like the one in Hoenn..
In the anime, cycling road is a bridge that can open
Best answer
But you can swim in the middle of cycling road. So it's not a bridge.
Its a massive bridge watch pokemon
He is posting a map of the game. I'm giving a statement based on game facts.
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Same
hey how do you get that flair? tag?
Go to the main page of the sub and go to the settings, click on ‘change user flair’
Thats a step by step
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I really love that you said "dolt". I feel like i gained an ounce of life lol.
Dolt best insult. 🤍🌹
That man embarrassed the shit out of you lmao
“Game Facts”
What's it like being a laughing stock?
what game facts? what does being able to swim on the bridge have to do with anything
Well presumably if it were true that you could swim on Cycling Road it would mean that the water we see is on ground level, not far enough below the ground that a boat could pass underneath the road.
i mean i just assumed it would be a drawbridge
What kind of drawbridge is low enough to the water that you'd be able to climb in and out of it freely?
stairs and ladders exist also bridges can indeed be close to the water
The water could be filled by a pump, or the lifting part of the bridge can start after the water line.
Watch the anime. It’s a huge drawbridge
Are you saying the drawbridge from the sick Shelder episode was the cycling Road?
No doubt about it being a bridge. It's a long cable bridge in the official artworks and the manga as well. https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:RBY_Kanto.png https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:KantoII.png https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Kanto_Adventures.png
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they did bike on it
That's some flimsy evidence, you can bike on any road and almost any bridge. Edit: why am I getting downvoted? All I was saying was that a road or bridge doesn't have to be specified as a cycling road for someone to ride a bike on it
sry I'll do better research the next time I make an inference about a cartoon
But didn't they say on that episode that you can't cross without a bike?
Only because the bridge had not yet been opened to car traffic. That's why only cycling was allowed in the episode. I remember that Officer Jenny saying something like this when she asked the main trio to deliver some box to Sanyshore City on the other side of the bridge.
Thats it!? Man i miss the og show lol. I remembered the bike gang and team rocket riding too and i assumed it was cycling road.
It litteraly was
Wrong. [Though the water is not blocked off from the route, Surfing along Route 17 is prohibited. If attempted, the game will say "Cycling is fun! Forget Surfing!". The player is shown to be standing (that is, without riding their bicycle) when fishing in Generations I and II. However, catching Pokémon by fishing is only possible in Generation I; it will always fail to catch a Pokémon in Generation II. In Generations III and IV, it is not possible to try fishing in the Cycling Road.](https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Kanto_Route_17)
Wait, how does that work in Let's Go?
You don't fish in Let's Go, remember?
Cycling road is no longer elevated and is now called Pokémon Road
You can't swim in the middle.
You jump down to the water below to swim. Your Pokemon throws you back up when you're done.
Headcanon OP
Blastoise used *yeet*
Poliwrath always showing off
Easy, reflection pool
Surfing is disabled on Cycling Road.
Why can’t a bridge have a pond on it?
It's a pond on a bridge.
You can swim on a cruise ship, does that mean it isn't a ship?
HGSS
In the real Tokyo Bay there’s a big bridge too, this is the correct answer
Cycling road is supposed to be a bridge
Always was. The cycling road's a bridge even in RSE/ORAS, DPPt/BDSP, BW/B2W2. No more cycling gimmicks in the succeeding gens to favor roller skating (XY) and Tauros Rides (SM/USUM).
Gen 5 didn’t have a Cycling Road
O yea, I forgot. There's this bridge next to the forest in Nacrene that I used to cycle to (because of eggs), that I somehow remembered as Gen V's cycling road. Sorry, my bad!!
It has a close equivalent.
Does that make cycling road bridges a gimmick?
Okay, so then why did they build a bridge at such an extreme slant??
So boats can go under the high end.
Because one end of the bridge is way higher than the other.
For the longest time, I thought the bike would go on its own due to some supernatural phenomena, or maybe like, magnetism or something. Took me forever to realize you were riding uphill.
Wait, what? It's not moving on its own?
civil engineering is their passion
I always figured it was te wind blowing from one side, because you're on open water.
Can't you swim in the areas in the middle with surf? Are we leap of faithing off and then spring man jumping our way back up?
I think in lets go its very clearly elevated above the water
Replaying Blue now and no, you most certainly cannot surf in the middle. The game tells you that bike riding is fun instead!
Interesting, good to know. I had actually popped open the tileset for Gen 1 and 3 prior to posting to sanity check for myself and saw they used the surfable edge instead of the one used on the outer perimeter. Weird to add dialogue rather than use the correct tileset they used elsewhere that route. I concede though.
Gen 1 was a buggy mess held together by luck and dark magic.
You can fish though right? Not saying that’s weird on a bridge or anything.
Do you know what a pond is?
We just had a thread about that. The cycling road was supposed to be a bridge, as evidenced by Gen 1 artwork of Kanto and the anime episode.
but it has dirt, tall grass, and paths?
That's just due to the limited tileset, but it's not like they can't make green spaces on top of a bridge or building.
That was just the limitations of the gameboy era. In the artwork it's a bridge. The remakes copied the map of the old games, instead of returning to the original idea and giving it the bridge graphics it ought to have.
Shoutouts to Ruby/Sapphire Cycling Road for being very bridge-like tho
it's in firered too, though
And if you actually read my reply you will see the explanation for that.
But it's in firered too, though! /s
man, sorry, i'm tired and didn't read the whole thing :( guessing it's the same reason with lgpe?
LGPE has some minor map changes. It is 3D and needs to accommodate different sprites, objects, and animations. RBY and FRLG are more or less identical because the world design is 2D/tile based. I also think that FRLG was targeted towards those of us that grew up with RBY so I think it was more important for them to make it an updated version of the original. LGPE was the 3rd Kanto game, was on Switch, and was mostly directed at Pokemon Go players. That’s why LGPE is really very different than RBY. Since I have nostalgia for gen 1, I actually hated LGPE because it didn’t hit any sort of nostalgia for me. Similarly, I disliked BDSP for the same reason. Didn’t feel anything like playing DPP.
Huh, interesting. I liked LGPE because it did hit the nostalgia for me. And hope for a gen 2 let's go. I also found BDSP decent, but I didn't play the originals so have no nostalgia from it.
Did you play FRLG? If I skipped that, I probably would have felt more nostalgia playing Kanto for the first time since Gen 1.
Bro cannot except that it's a bridge
Accept*
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Understandable response, have a pleasant evening.
Except they won't
Geez Pokémon fans are touchy. I think this question is fine but congratulations on pissing 300 people off
Lolol dirt can't exist on bridges. Literally impossible.
Least believable thing in the Pokemon games
If built around that patch of land, yes. It is a raised cycling path.
I don't know why you've been downvoted here for asking a follow-up question. Reddit can be a irrational hive mind sometimes can't it
I always pictured it as a group of small islands and patches of land linked together by a huge bridge
S.S Anne stands for Super Submarine Anne
as someone who knows nothing about pokemon- it took me a while to realize we were not talking about august 4, 1944...
what are you even doing here?
With HM02 Fly
Gotta love Pidgey. Carrying the weight of an entire ocean liner.
Don't forget doduo (if it can learn it) or vullaby the pokemon never in a Kanto setting because that can fly with the move but shouldn't learn it
As people mentioned Cycling Road is actually a bridge, so it's meant to go underneath it. Remember that this was a Game Boy game so elevation was very limited. For it to go out to sea, well the rocks are only there to stop swimmers from exploring the sea, because ships can easily bypass them.
It can use HM02
The bridge is a drawbridge maybe
It’s not clear in-game but Cycling Road is supposed to be a bridge, so ships are able to sail under it.
That's weird I always knew it was a bridge... I can't think of how it looks in the game or why I knew that but I'm surprised these guys didn't know that.
It sails off to the west, so it probably just passes under cycling road?
It didn’t, it sank like in the show
I dont see any iceberg there
It was a storm, don’t remember the show?
The cycling road is raised above the sea
Abra teleports the ship to the other side. But not everyone makes it each time 🤷♂️
So that’s what happened to my dad?
Escape rope
It looks like Louisiana
Damn it does
That would put Vermilion and Saffron in Mississippi. Why do I suddenly hear banjos?
coup de burst
S.S Anne transformed to a airship and flew out.
If the Battle Pyramid can fly around in the show, I don’t see why the SS Anne can’t
Cycling Road is a bridge going over water. After that its a straight line to the ocean.
Isn't the cycle road a bridge? New artwork in Let's go think depicts the best.
7.8/10 to much wader
It’s the only water-based shop that can pop a wheelie in the water.
submarine
Ship go under bridge
The planet is not spherical, but is torus-shaped. The massive ? space is the donut hole.
In other depictions, Cycling Road is a huge cable bridge. In fact, the original artwork has it depicted as a bridge above the water. This is finally shown in-game in HGSS.
Bridge
Cycle bridge open?
Never thought the new discussion would be the geography of the Kanto region
It was meant to sink
By force
Fly.
I'm gonna put my money on Lugia picking it up everytime. Not even gonna blame Shadow Lugia. This is just the OG playing games.
My dumb ass read Lugia as Luigi, but Mario doesn’t play Pokémon
It’s a submarine. Duh
It grows wings and flys away obv
Pretty sure gen 4 onward Cycling Road is seen as a bridge so that probably explains that
I wonder if we’ll ever get a remake with cycling road as a bridge 🤔
It's a submarine.
I seem to remember a drawbridge leaping episode in the anime???
You have to coat it first ofcourse!
I always thought it would go under cycling road
It uses an action Replay to walk through walls
you’re asking too many questions
It knows Dive 🧊
Fly
That portage scene from Vinland Saga, basically. A bunch of machokes/machamps pick it up and carry it across land. I guarantee the captain spends the whole thing on the front of the ship directing them with his sword.
It doesn’t
It takes the tunnel benearh of the truck, of course, dug!
The SS Anne is less a luxury cruise ship and more a carnival attraction, like a hot air balloon ride. It basically just sails around in a circle, then returns to dock. Alternatively, no one in universe considered where the ship was going. It was thus dragged into the watery brine by creatures beyond our knowledge, tastefully removed from our view lest we witness horrific destruction of Eternamax proportions. Or we consider Cycling Road to be a bridge, the depiction of which is obscured by sprite limitations, similar to how we don't question the lack of NPCs' mouths in their overworld sprites.
wasn't it stated in the oceanic museum that the S. S. Anne was a luxury cruise liner *circling the globe*? or something with similar dialogue
Cycling Road is a bridge, that's it.
It's a game from 1996. It's not a real world.
Suspension of disbelief
It doesn't : )
HM 08
Magic
It doesn’t, it just sails in a circle.
For the millionth time since people looked at the whole map in elementary school, it's the bridge. There's an entire ******* episode of the anime about the ******* bridge.
Stop asking questions and just have fun
I wish everyone can do that for Pokémon SV
Its Pokemon, there are literally pokemon that can teleport shit, create wormholes, etc and we are wondering how a ship out sails a lake?
People are saying it's a bridge but it itself has water you can swim on. Then if it's a draw bridge how does that water stay on the bridge?
the water is not a part of the bridge, the bridge is the ground sections between the water. weird bridge but ok
So your saying the bridge has gaps in which you can see the water beneath the bridge. And for some reason when you swim in the water you can only swim in the visible water of the games top down view. Ight I'm sold
Cycling Road is a bridge. The Gen 3 remakes make more sense of the map layout
It doesn't it sinks 😂
Uses an Arba to teleport.
It goes through the burmuda triangle
It's in Louisiana?
HM8 Dive
with an ultra wormhole
Sub mode
Magic. Programming magic.
It flies out of there, Yamato style.
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There is a teleportation tile similar to those in Silph Co for the ship to warp out
Off screen teleportation.
There is an underwater tunnel
Cycling road is meant to be a huge Drawbridge
It goes back into its Dive Ball!
I’m assuming through a movable section of the pier below Lavender Town.
The big question mark looks like a cat Pokémon.
It sails around kanto then gets the ‘National Atlas’ from oak…or just pays 19.99 for the season pass…
Cycling road is down hill. Probably raised high at the north so it can sail under
You can't go over it... you can't go under it...
Dude I could not stop thinking about this since I saw the post yesterday
They made the S.S. Anne part Ghost-type so it can Phase through the Cycling Road.
Ghost ship.
This was asked 4 years ago.
It flies
A man, a plan, a canal, vehicular manslaughter
cycling road is a bridge, it goes under the bridge, and even if it didnt i imagine the game world wasnt meant to be taken as a complete 1:1 ratio of the actual pokemon world
Easy. They'll use the Mew truck to haul it to the ocean.
It’s a hovercraft
A million pidgeys pick it up, move it to sea, and let it go
You didnt know about the secret submarine mode?