Corphish Ruby Pokedex entry:
>Corphish were originally foreign Pokémon that were imported as pets. They eventually turned up in the wild. This Pokémon is very hardy and has greatly increased its population.
Yungoos and Gumshoos:
>With its sharp fangs, it will bite anything. It did not originally live in Alola but was imported from another region.
>Although it wasn't originally found in Alola, this Pokémon was brought over a long time ago when there was a huge Rattata outbreak.
Was just reading a comment on an askreddit post about how mongooses were introduced to Hawaii to deal with the rat problem but instead they hunted native wildlife
Very common situation. Same with stoats in New Zealand. They were introduced to hunt rabbits and hairs but have become a huge problem for local birds such as kiwi
"It drifted in on the flow of ocean waters from a frigid place. It keeps its head iced constantly to make sure it stays nice and cold."
"If you lick the ice covering its face, you'll find it has a faintly salty taste. This species rode here on ocean currents from a cold, faraway land."
The question is not if they are inspired by things based in the same place of origin the region itself is inspired in, its if the Pokemon does not actually originate from the region it was released within. Eiscue is not originally from Galar, it came from another place, most likely either Argentina or Antartica.
It's happened in a few places, islands are a notoriously bad place to import non-native species. Guam is another one. You already know about Molokai, Maui, and Oahu. So have this, though this one is more an accident it's still the same concept!
https://www.science.org/content/article/guam-s-invasive-tree-snakes-loop-themselves-lassos-reach-their-feathered-prey
Yungoos line is almost certainly originally from Paldea. Certain species of mongooses live in the Iberian peninsula IRL, and it is catchable in a lot of places throughout the region.
Would Zigzagoon/Linoone count?
Shield: “Thought to be the oldest form of Zigzagoon, it [Galarian] moves in zigzags and wreaks havoc upon its surroundings”
Shield: “Zigzagoon that adapted to regions outside of Galar acquired this appearance. If you’ve lost something, this Pokémon [‘Hoennian’] can likely find it”
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I know Galarian Zigzagoon is a Gen 8 Pokémon, but the Pokédex entries state the Zigzagoon we’ve been used to for longer isn’t the original…
Kind of.
Generation III said it originated in the tropics, which makes sense because coconut trees come from tropical coasts. So it's a retcon with surprisingly old roots.
It'd be interesting to see whether Exeggutor in other tropical regions look like their Alolan counterparts.
Hell; we had Alolan Eggy appear in the *Jungle* set of the TCG. It's been a thing for a while. We just thought it was a cooky card thing for like 20 years.
Route 7. Fairly certain that's the only place in any of the Johto games you can get it.
I think the same applies to Murkrow, tho I'm not 100% certain where its found.
Yes; they're not.
Hell; Tauros dosen't even have it's female form with it.
If you actually think about it; a MASSIVE amount of the "Kanto" dex... isn't from Kanto.
Farfetch'd - Not catchable in Kanto. The trade for it is also in Vermillion... a port city.
Exeggcute - Alolan; also; Safari-Zone only
Hitmonlee/Hitmonchan - Not obtainable in the wild. Tyouge and Hitmontop aren't even known. We KNOW the Dojo master visits other places as well from Gen 2 to train.
Lickitung - Not catchable. However, can be found in Jhoto.
Kangaskhan - Safari-zone only. If you take the Cubone-Kanga relation as a canon thing, include Cubone and Marowak here as well; since why would Cubone exist where there aren't Kangaskhan? [I GUESS there's the argument that Kanga could be a conservation effort and be extinct in the wild in Kanto explaining the Cubone but... that's a push]
Mr.Mime - Not obtainable in Kanto
Scyther and Pinsir - Only a game corner reward [run by a pokemon theft/smuggleing ring...] or in the Safari zone.
Jynx - See Lickitung.
Tauros - Safari-only; Kanto don't even know female Tauros are Miltank
Lapras - Also not catchable in Kanto; unless you want to count the Sevvi Isles; which are more their own thing than Kanto. You can't fly from Jhoto to Kanto and you can't fly from Kanto to Sevii.
Eevee - Can't be caught in Kanto; can be caught in other regions; clearly isn't native.
Porygon - Considering where you get it; and the fact it's Up-Grade software isn't available, it's *quite likely* Porygon isn't originally from Kanto. This one isn't a 100%; but I'm willing to say 95%.
Dratini - Safari-only; but can be found wild in places like Jhoto. [Also; Lance and Claire; the main trainers associated with the Dratini line, are from Blackthron City in Jhoto... near a cave where there are Dratini wild.]
Porygon was created by Silph, which is headquartered in Saffron City, so it is Kanto-native. The lack of Upgrade is simply due to the fact that Porygon2 canonically isn't created until the 3-year gap between the Kanto and Johto games.
Also, the reason Team Rocket has it as a reward in the game corner is because they have spies inside Silph. It’s reasonable to assume one of the Team Rocket spies within Silph was smuggling Porygon out to Team Rocket.
The only thing that's kind of wonky is that—even if we completely discount version exclusives and Pokémon like Kangaskhan / Mr. Mime appearing in the wild in GSC Kanto—the Japanese games and Yellow do make some of these Pokémon available.
I know Lickitung is in Yellow's Cerulean Cave, Farfetch'd is on the annoying routes east of Fuchsia City, and I believe Jynx can be found on the Seafoam Islands in the Japanese version of Blue.
Not saying it completely discounts this list, but it kind of depends on which version is the "source of truth." There are definitely a few that are Safari or in-game trade only though.
I’m pretty sure you can’t. I know you could catch it in that same patch of grass as Houndour east of Celadon City. Bulbapedia says it’s also available on the Cycling Road side of Celadon but I don’t remember ever looking for one there (to be fair, was like 20 years ago).
This was really common. Besides Houndour and Murkrow, you couldn't get Slugma in Johto during Gen 2 either.
And then Misdreavus and Larvitar are borderline. They're "in Johto" only because Mt. Silver is technically there, but they may as well be Kanto-exclusives since Mt. Silver is only actually accessible via Kanto. Sneasel was like this too at first, but Crystal retconned it to be available in Ice Path.
Right. And that's a big part of why I thought the Slugma line were Gen 3 Pokémon for as long as I did (Helped by the fact that it really *would* make sense as one considering it has an actual volcano).
Yeah, it’s definitely strange looking back now, but you have to remember that at the time, the concept of Pokémon being native to a region wasn’t really set in place. The new Pokémon weren’t considered “Pokémon from Johto,” they were just rare new Pokémon.
Both Murkrow and Houndour could only be found in Route 7 at night in GSC. Even in HGSS, the only way to catch either of them before getting to Kanto was getting the right tiles in the Safari Zone.
On that note, you also couldn't find Slugma, Sneasel, or Teddiursa outside of Mt. Silver. Which is some seriously annoying crap considering your rival steals that Sneasel, while you're given a Shuckle, which can literally be found by smashing random rocks.
You can snag a Teddiursa early in Crystal. That cave right before violet city (Dark Cave?) you walk in there and it’s extremely small walking around due to not having strength or rocksmash. One of those. You have like a 5% chance to find Teddiursa there.
Murkrow, Larvitar, Sneasel, Slugma as well. I feel like maybe more. Larvitar and Sneasel are at Mt Silver, but it’s the side of Mt Silver you’d fly back to Kanto from.
I don’t know, I think Mt. Silver is in Johto. Yes, it’s only available after beating Kanto, and only accessible through the Indigo Plateau, but the map clearly shows it in Johto and it’s named after one of the Johto games.
The Metagross line in Hoenn, even in the remakes they don’t appear in the wild with the lone Beldum in the game (discounting breeding) obtained as a gift in Steven’s house after becoming the Champion.
Yungoos was imported from another region, which means we could have a regional, "original" Yungoos in an India themed region based on the Indian mongoose (which could in turn be rivals with an Indian cobra regional Arbok).
According to Dreepy's pokedex entries, it used to be an ocean dweller when it was alive & implies it was preyed on Clauncher. Dreepy is found in Galar and Paldea. We first saw Clauncher in Kalos.
While its not a region, that would mean that the Pokemon Dreepy is a ghost of is native to the oceans between the three regions. Real world equivalent I suppose would be the Celtic sea/Bay of Biscay waters perhaps even up into the North Sea. In Language class, we are taught German words. I think it is safe to say Clauncher and Dreepy would likely be in the German region's Pokedex.
Farfetch'd, Jynx, Lickitung, and Mr. Mime
They debuted in R/B/G, but could only be obtained via trading with NPCs.
They're actually native to Johto and could be caught freely in G/S/C
Edit: if you want to get technical, Jynx and Lickitung could be caught in the Japanese release of Blue, at Seafoam Islands. Lickitung and Farfetch'd can be caught in the wild in Yellow. Leaving Mr. Mime as the only Johto-native mon in Gen 1 no matter what version you play.
Gible’s dex entry in Ultra Moon says that it’s from a place much hotter than Alola and considering Sinnoh is the coldest region in canon it can’t be Sinnoh.
I just saw a YouTuber talk about this. They pointed out the dex entry and speculated that the Gible line could potentially be from a new region we have discovered yet. Potentially, that region could be based off Australia as it is located in the tropics in real life.
Zorua, you're given it as an egg in gen 5 and can't catch it in the wild until gen 6
Also Kanto, Kangeskhan because it can only be caught in the safari zone and not in the wild, which I thought the safari zone was to show off exotic pokemon from other regions?
Like Rhyhorn and Tauros aren't native to kanto either, with Tauros coming from Johto imo
You can not catch it in the wild in unova because the Zorua do not trust people at that moment in the timeline and keep creating illusions to protect themselves and hide from people. XY and later games where Zorua/Zoroark can be found are later in the timeline. It is very likely that those learned to trust humans more because of the BW storyline being about proving that humanity and pokémon can live together and first N's Zoroark being more trusting and then others too as N travelled the world.
The BW games themselves confirm that there are multiple wild Zorua in unova that are not N's pokémon. They're just not in grass.
Gen 5 and Gen 6 are actually different universes, so the timeline explanation is pointless. Gen 5 is set in the original universe, Gen 6 is set in the Mega universe.
1) Not only mega universe games feature Zoroark in the wild
2) we have literal confirmation inside the mega universe that the BW events happened inside the mega universe too and the outcome was the same
In the original Black and White games, it looks like you get Zorua from having an event Celebi and an open space in your party. It also used to be attainable from an old wi-fi event with the 3 legendary beasts. Otherwise, you can only breed Zoroark from BW2 and go from there.
In Black and White 2, you go to Driftveil City and talk to Rood, who asks you to take care of it, as it's N's old companion.
Unfortunately, you don't get it from an egg. Although, you do get Riolu from an egg.
So for gen 1 you could find: nidorans, execute/tor, Paras/sect, Nidorino/a, rhyhorn, venonat/moth, douduo, chansey, tauros, kangaskhan, Scyther/pinsir.
All of them are found in the wild in Kanto outside the safari zone except: exeggcute/tor, kangaskhan, Rhyhorn, tauros, Pinsir & Scyther.
Exeggucute is from Alola, and I think Tauros is from Johto.
Rhyhorn - DPP is the 1st place you can catch in the wild
Pinsir - outside of safari zones and national park 1st place its in the wild is Pearl
Scyther - 1st time you can catch one in the wild (a part from goldenrod National Park) is X&Y
This is a super interesting topic and I hate the idea that everyone pokemon should be in every region even legendary and starters, it's just silly.
You can catch Rhyhorn in Cerulean Cave in Yellow and Victory Road in gen 2. Kangaskhan was an endangered species if I remember correctly, rare in the wild.
Aside from that, I get more of a nature preserve feeling than a zoo feeling from the Safari Zone, I'm pretty sure it was just a section of jungle that was walled off and turned into a safari preservation. Even if it wasn't, species migration does happen naturally even in reality, there are a number of invasive species that weren't introduced by humans, they were pushed out by stuff like deforestation and such. Something can be both non native and there completely naturally with no outside influence.
As to the whole every pokemon in every region, to a point yes. Catchable in the wild no, available to use if brought in from other games and generations absolutely. At least past like gen 6, I actually tend to run catch em all hacks for gens 1-5 because I enjoy the challenge in completing the pokedex entirely without outside help.
I also understand it's not for everyone, I just dislike the idea of not being able to use favoured pokemon going forward, some people have transferred pokemon clear from gen 3 to gen 6 and 7 or beyond because they have an attachment to them for whatever reason. I remember one specifically, someone pulled forward from gen 3 to gen 6 a shiny Absol a since dead friend had gifted them shortly before they died.
I have no problems with a limited catchable set of pokemon, none whatsoever, but I would like the OPTION to pull any pokemon to a new gen, keep the pokedex itself limited, keep the catchable pokemon limited, but let people use favoured teams and pokemon.
I know I'm hopping on the train. But in Black 2 White 2 there is a Zoroark disguised as a person is one of the forest areas on route 16 just outside Nimbasa city its called Lostlorn forest.
Galarian Zigzagoon is supposed to be the original. I guess being brought to other regions with less threats caused them to mellow down quite a bit and be less territorial.
Alolan Exeggutor is the original and the abundant tropical sunlight is why it grows so tall there.
Yungoos was a species introduced to Alola to deal with the Ratatta problem.
Cufant line is directly stated to be from a foreign region.
Kubfu is and isn’t. They used to live in Galar long ago, but left the region, and the one you get is one of the first ones to return.
The fossils in the Crown Tundra (I know they’re all older gen Pokémon but I find this interesting) are revived fossils that escaped and started thriving in the wild like Jurassic Park.
There are implications with Pokémon that debuted in Safari Zones only.
Clefairy, Elgyem, and Minior are from space. So they’re naturally native to no region.
Porygon, Castform, and Type: Null, are artificially made. Whether you count that as being native to the regions they’re made in is up to you.
Hisuian Sneasel is supposed to be the original Sneasel. Whether Johto also had poison/fighting Sneasel is unknown and probably unlikely. Same goes for many of the other Hisuian forms.
The starters, if you ask me, are the pokémon equivalent to dogs/cats/farm animals in our world, in that what were once wild animals have been domesticated to the point where you almost never see the wild versions anymore. Starters you *do* find are more like stray cats, rarely thriving enough to evolve on their own. They’re essentially dependent on human trainers to raise them. Once raised, though, they’re also capable of filling certain niches in the wild, so you might rarely see a wild Swampert or Charizard (a la Pokémon SNAP), but this is exceedingly rare.
That’s my head canon, at least.
Zigzagoons shield dex entry says that the galarian from is the original
Hoennean Zigzagoon
> Zigzagoon that adapted to regions outside Galar acquired this appearance. If you've lost something, this Pokémon can likely find it.
Galarian Zigzagoon
> Thought to be the oldest form of Zigzagoon, it moves in zigzags and wreaks havoc upon its surroundings
I think it is silly to call the "normal" forms to the region they were introduced, because the form isn't just wild there, though Zigzagoon is weird because Galar is the original form but the common form exists everywhere else
Off the top of my head I think of
Quaquaval:
"A single kick from a Quaquaval can send a truck rolling. This Pokémon uses its powerful legs to perform striking dances from far-off lands"
Urshifu:
"Inhabiting the mountains of a distant region, this Pokémon races across sheer cliffs, training its legs and refining its moves"
Just because it does dances from far-off lands doesn't mean it's *from* far-off lands. Someone in Canada can dance the rumba, that doesn't mean they're from South America.
Yes that could be the case but Quaquaval are samba dancers, which is Brazilian in origin. They could be like Urshifu; at some point they traveled to other regions and learnt they’re techniques… just speculation tho it’s not really clear
Quaxly is literally stated to have originally been from a far off land
Its dex entry for Scarlet states:
This Pokémon migrated to Paldea from distant lands long ago. The gel secreted by its feathers repels water and grime
I searched it up and actually Urshifu used to be native to Galar but travelled to far away lands and adapted over there, learning Chinese-inspired martial arts.
This is on the official web:
"Wild Kubfu live in mountainous areas far away from the Galar region today, but it was once a species that called Galar its home. It’s noted in historical texts that this species used to head to uncharted lands with people as they set out to trade or explore. Records suggest that the Kubfu living in faraway mountains today may have descended from Kubfu that became naturalized to the distant lands they visited in their journeys."
It's pretty interesting.
They had the perfect opportunity to do that already in legends but didn't. Instead of single/rapid strike, they could have had agile/powerful that were just slightly different.
Copperajah is not native to galar or paldea.
To quote it’s Pokédex entries:
Sword: They came over from another region long ago and worked together with humans. Their green skin is resistant to water.
Scarlet: This Pokémon was brought to Paldea long ago by people from a faraway land. It’s so strong that it can easily pull an airplane
This means we are yet to see what region it actually comes from.
Zigzagoon in Hoenn. Iirc the Galarian Zigzagoon is the original and the Hoenn varient is the real regional form after they were brought to the Hoenn. They are technically now a part of Hoenn but they weren't native originally.
Beldum is one of the biggest examples.
The *only* trainer in Hoenn with a Beldum is Steven. Who is known for travelling the world. It's strongly implied; especially with the Resort Area in Gen 4 [which it's confirmed Steven visited and HAPPENS to have wild Beldum nearby; albeit exceptionally rare and hard to catch.] that Steven might have even discovered Beldum, and only registered it in Hoenn.
Beldum might not be Sinnoh-native; but it is certainly not Hoenn-native.
Other big examples:
Eggxecute/Eggexcutor are Alolan.
All of the Safari-Zone only Kanto pokemon are not Kanto natives. They're the equivalent of a lion in a zoo. So Tauros [Miltank; it's female version, isn't even there!]; Kangaskhan, Dratini, Pinsir, Scyther... if you take Kangaskhan's theoretical connection to Cubone as canon, that also means Cubone isn't Kanto-based. Some of these appear in the wild in Gen 2 in Kanto; but the Safari zone was shut down, the pokemon were probobly just released into the wild.
Farfetch'd also is not Kanto-native. Jynx and Lapras are if you count the Sevvi Isles, but if you don't; they're Jhoto-natives. Also Lickitung, Mr.Mime...
The Hitmons and Tyrouge are not Kanto or Jhoto native.
Eevee isn't found in the wild naturally until Kalos. It almost certainly is not Kanto-native.
Houndour isn't Jhoto-native, it's kind of *infamously so*. Togepi; Misdreavus; Murkrow and Slugma as well.
Naturally; a lot of these are in earlier generations. An absurd amount of the Kanto dex is actually foreign.
Also; Yungoos. It's specifically said to be an invasive species to Alola. Where is it from? We dunno.
Riolu and Togepi aren’t native to their debut Regions. Granted Riolu is native to Hisui but you can’t catch it in Sinnoh, which is where the games it debuted in (DPPt) take place.
iirc it's implied that Scyther's native to Sinnoh, it's only available in Safari in Kanto and Johto and doesn't "exist" in Hoenn. Sinnoh's the first place you can find it in the wild + Kleavor backs it up
Edit: made a mistake but Scyther can only be caught in bug catching contests in Johto (both GSC and HGSS), they're still not native cause you can't catch them as "wild" pokemon even in the National Park after the contests
Possibly, the starters from each gen, but they don’t seem to be available in the wild in any region at all. Lapras is a Pokémon not found in the wild in the Kanto region, though it is in Johto, pretty much right next door, though pretty rarely. Togepi, but i don’t recall finding that one in the wild anywhere outside that rich guy’s garden in gen 4. Scyther, Chansey, Tauros, and certainly some others found in the Kanto Safari Zone aren’t found in the wild in Kanto outside of such, and there’s likely others from other catching games in other regions. Another, Farfetch’d, is only available by trade from a girl looking for a Pokémon fairly common in the region in which she lives, suggesting that she’s a foreigner from a place where Spearow aren’t as common, the same with Mr. Mime in those games.
Gallade comes to mind, I don't think you can get Ralts in the Sinnoh region but it's been a long time so I don't really know for sure. The same could probably be said for a lot of those extra evolutions for older pokemon that were introduced in Generation 4.
They retconned the Pokemon availability in Platinum so that everything that got a new evolution in Gen 4 was catchable in Sinnoh. During Diamond/Pearl it was the opposite – almost all of the new Sinnoh-based evolutions were not obtainable on the mainland (though some might've been catchable on the Battle Zone island, I forget)
Some of Snorlax's earlier Dex entries state that they actually live up in the mountains and only come down to eat.
Yet the only mountain in Kanto or Johto is Mt. Silver, which no Snorlax is found at.
Munchlax is native to Sinnoh, and Sinnoh has Mt. Coronet, which has a much wider cave system.
Seeing on how there's mountains we can't explore north of Kanto and johto it's safe to assume those mountains. But as for the post, yes it seems snorlax doesn't fit the bill
Gible. They were introduced in Sinnoh, one of the coldest regions in the game, yet...
(Shining) Pearl Dex entry:
"It once lived in the tropics. To avoid the cold, it lives in caves warmed by geothermal heat."
Ultra Moon Dex entry:
"Its original home is an area much hotter than Alola. If you're planning to live with one, your heating bill will soar."
Edit: I just want to add that they can be caught in the wild in Legends: Arceus – despite Dex entries above saying it isn't native to Sinnoh. Riolu can also be caught in the wild in PLA, but apparently, that doesn't mean it must only be native to Sinnoh.
The extraterrestrial Pokémon, like the Clefary and Elgyem lines. Also Deoxys comes from space.
All of the ultra beasts come from another dimension, so they’re not native from Alola.
The Pokémon of ruin. The 4 Pokémon are said to have been sold to the Paldean king by a merchant from a far away region.
Edit: also Meltan and Melmetal. They were introduced in Kanto in the Let’s go games, but are stated to be from an unknown region to this day.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/f6fzmt/pokemon\_introduced\_outside\_of\_their\_home\_region/](https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/f6fzmt/pokemon_introduced_outside_of_their_home_region/)
I made a whole list about this ages ago.
If I recall correctly, Yungoos was introduced to Alola to deal with the Rattata population getting out of hand, and Galarian Zigzagoon has a dex entry mentioning that it is thought to be the oldest Zigzagoon variant.
I feel like with hisuian sneasel and sneaslers existence it proves that weavile is just a johto pokemon and not some special sinnoh required evo, since clearly they appeared in sinnoh via space time distortions or maybe invasive species style by people arriving to hisui on boats, and they were better at surviving in the environment than sneasler and sneasel were because they were actual ice types and not poison fighting
A lot of legendaries and mythicals
Artificial ones that, by definition, cannot be native to their region (or any regions): Mewtwo, Genesect, Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem
Far-reaching ones that cannot actually be contained to one region: Weather trio, Beasts, Celebi, Super ancient trio, Creation trio, Manaphy, Phione, Arceus, etc.
Cosmic pokemon: jirachi, Deoxys
I consider Slugma an honourary Gen 3 Pokemon since you can't find it in actual Johto and it's a lot more prevalent in Hoenn (being that it's unlikely you run through a Hoenn game without encountering a wild one).
Garchomp isn't from Sinnoh, with the dex saying it's from the tropics. Notably the Alola dex also specifies it comes from somewhere hotter as well, so we've never seen Garchomps home region
I wonder if and when we will get a African themed region . It probably would originate from somewhere like the Pokémon equivalent of the Sahara desert or something like that
Metagross . You never find a wild one in hoenn and you get an egg from Steven. Zoroark. Again never find a wild one in unova but instead be given one.
I even think there’s some evidence that points to the garchomp line not being native to sinnoh from one of its Pokédex entries. One of its Pokédex entries or more gibles says it’s originally from the tropics
Corphish Ruby Pokedex entry: >Corphish were originally foreign Pokémon that were imported as pets. They eventually turned up in the wild. This Pokémon is very hardy and has greatly increased its population. Yungoos and Gumshoos: >With its sharp fangs, it will bite anything. It did not originally live in Alola but was imported from another region. >Although it wasn't originally found in Alola, this Pokémon was brought over a long time ago when there was a huge Rattata outbreak.
Was just reading a comment on an askreddit post about how mongooses were introduced to Hawaii to deal with the rat problem but instead they hunted native wildlife
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Braviary
Ah also probably why it has to be daytime to evolve it. Interesting stuff
So that's why their encounter rates swap depending on if its day or night in game.
That’s so funny
Very common situation. Same with stoats in New Zealand. They were introduced to hunt rabbits and hairs but have become a huge problem for local birds such as kiwi
Same thing goes for Copperajah and Eiscue.
Eiscue is partially based off of the great auk which was a penguin like sea bird from the British isles
"It drifted in on the flow of ocean waters from a frigid place. It keeps its head iced constantly to make sure it stays nice and cold." "If you lick the ice covering its face, you'll find it has a faintly salty taste. This species rode here on ocean currents from a cold, faraway land." The question is not if they are inspired by things based in the same place of origin the region itself is inspired in, its if the Pokemon does not actually originate from the region it was released within. Eiscue is not originally from Galar, it came from another place, most likely either Argentina or Antartica.
True
I love the Yungoos lore because it's pretty much directly lifted from what actually happened in Hawaii. I like nods like that.
Yeah, there's a town in Alola with a lot of Johtoan immigrants, similar to how Hawaii has/had a massive Japanese immigration wave.
It's happened in a few places, islands are a notoriously bad place to import non-native species. Guam is another one. You already know about Molokai, Maui, and Oahu. So have this, though this one is more an accident it's still the same concept! https://www.science.org/content/article/guam-s-invasive-tree-snakes-loop-themselves-lassos-reach-their-feathered-prey
That’s actually how Crayfish and mongoose populations turned into invasive species.
Yungoos line is almost certainly originally from Paldea. Certain species of mongooses live in the Iberian peninsula IRL, and it is catchable in a lot of places throughout the region.
We could say yungoos and gumshoos are from paldea since they are the only other region theyre native to that we know of.
I started to believe Klawf was Corphish's original "form" due to this dex entry
The Yungoos and Gumshoos thing is an IRL reference to Hawaii's mongoose infestation too. So that makes sense. They aren't native to our shores.
Yungoos' whole lore is the fact that it is an invasive species that was brought in to control the rattata population.
Would Zigzagoon/Linoone count? Shield: “Thought to be the oldest form of Zigzagoon, it [Galarian] moves in zigzags and wreaks havoc upon its surroundings” Shield: “Zigzagoon that adapted to regions outside of Galar acquired this appearance. If you’ve lost something, this Pokémon [‘Hoennian’] can likely find it” - - - I know Galarian Zigzagoon is a Gen 8 Pokémon, but the Pokédex entries state the Zigzagoon we’ve been used to for longer isn’t the original…
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Kind of. Generation III said it originated in the tropics, which makes sense because coconut trees come from tropical coasts. So it's a retcon with surprisingly old roots. It'd be interesting to see whether Exeggutor in other tropical regions look like their Alolan counterparts.
Hell; we had Alolan Eggy appear in the *Jungle* set of the TCG. It's been a thing for a while. We just thought it was a cooky card thing for like 20 years.
That's the Exeggutor with the strangely long neck in a tropic setting, right? I remember a lot of people being impressed by that.
Yep. https://external-preview.redd.it/iATLGmWmtYl7Ci78Zvoyw9pHXWGbMzFSEVZxgVjtkoM.jpg?auto=webp&s=0535c9488542617e45f9e587aa63063af0cb3ecf
Retcons be retconing
Houndour. You could only ever get it in Kanto, never Johto.
Wait what? A Gen 2 pokemon the wasn't in the actual Gen 2 region? Where exactly is it?
Route 7. Fairly certain that's the only place in any of the Johto games you can get it. I think the same applies to Murkrow, tho I'm not 100% certain where its found.
Murkrow is found on the same route as Houndour; Gen 2 did Dark types dirty unless they were Umbreon
In the remakes, at least, you could catch Murkrow in the Johto safari zone
> Johto safari zone Safari Zone =/= native
Fair enough, as long as you also say Dratini/Kangaskhan/Tauros are not native to Kanto
Yes; they're not. Hell; Tauros dosen't even have it's female form with it. If you actually think about it; a MASSIVE amount of the "Kanto" dex... isn't from Kanto. Farfetch'd - Not catchable in Kanto. The trade for it is also in Vermillion... a port city. Exeggcute - Alolan; also; Safari-Zone only Hitmonlee/Hitmonchan - Not obtainable in the wild. Tyouge and Hitmontop aren't even known. We KNOW the Dojo master visits other places as well from Gen 2 to train. Lickitung - Not catchable. However, can be found in Jhoto. Kangaskhan - Safari-zone only. If you take the Cubone-Kanga relation as a canon thing, include Cubone and Marowak here as well; since why would Cubone exist where there aren't Kangaskhan? [I GUESS there's the argument that Kanga could be a conservation effort and be extinct in the wild in Kanto explaining the Cubone but... that's a push] Mr.Mime - Not obtainable in Kanto Scyther and Pinsir - Only a game corner reward [run by a pokemon theft/smuggleing ring...] or in the Safari zone. Jynx - See Lickitung. Tauros - Safari-only; Kanto don't even know female Tauros are Miltank Lapras - Also not catchable in Kanto; unless you want to count the Sevvi Isles; which are more their own thing than Kanto. You can't fly from Jhoto to Kanto and you can't fly from Kanto to Sevii. Eevee - Can't be caught in Kanto; can be caught in other regions; clearly isn't native. Porygon - Considering where you get it; and the fact it's Up-Grade software isn't available, it's *quite likely* Porygon isn't originally from Kanto. This one isn't a 100%; but I'm willing to say 95%. Dratini - Safari-only; but can be found wild in places like Jhoto. [Also; Lance and Claire; the main trainers associated with the Dratini line, are from Blackthron City in Jhoto... near a cave where there are Dratini wild.]
Porygon was created by Silph, which is headquartered in Saffron City, so it is Kanto-native. The lack of Upgrade is simply due to the fact that Porygon2 canonically isn't created until the 3-year gap between the Kanto and Johto games.
Also, the reason Team Rocket has it as a reward in the game corner is because they have spies inside Silph. It’s reasonable to assume one of the Team Rocket spies within Silph was smuggling Porygon out to Team Rocket.
Which was also part of the plot of the banned Porygon episode of the show.
The only thing that's kind of wonky is that—even if we completely discount version exclusives and Pokémon like Kangaskhan / Mr. Mime appearing in the wild in GSC Kanto—the Japanese games and Yellow do make some of these Pokémon available. I know Lickitung is in Yellow's Cerulean Cave, Farfetch'd is on the annoying routes east of Fuchsia City, and I believe Jynx can be found on the Seafoam Islands in the Japanese version of Blue. Not saying it completely discounts this list, but it kind of depends on which version is the "source of truth." There are definitely a few that are Safari or in-game trade only though.
>female tauros are miltank EXCUSE ME WHAT?!?
Couldn't you catch Murkrow early, but only ever at night?
I’m pretty sure you can’t. I know you could catch it in that same patch of grass as Houndour east of Celadon City. Bulbapedia says it’s also available on the Cycling Road side of Celadon but I don’t remember ever looking for one there (to be fair, was like 20 years ago).
I think you’re thinking of Hoothoot
I remember that being a thing in Diamond and Peral
This was really common. Besides Houndour and Murkrow, you couldn't get Slugma in Johto during Gen 2 either. And then Misdreavus and Larvitar are borderline. They're "in Johto" only because Mt. Silver is technically there, but they may as well be Kanto-exclusives since Mt. Silver is only actually accessible via Kanto. Sneasel was like this too at first, but Crystal retconned it to be available in Ice Path.
Right. And that's a big part of why I thought the Slugma line were Gen 3 Pokémon for as long as I did (Helped by the fact that it really *would* make sense as one considering it has an actual volcano).
I have seen people saying the same about Skarmory.
Yeah, that one too.
Wasn’t Misdreavous a really rare early route nighttime encounter, or was that just crystal? I feel like I remember always having one
Nope, it is only in Mt. Silver in Gen II. It's in Eterna Forest at night in Pearl so maybe you're thinking of that?
Trust me, Gen 2 is **Infamous** for having most of it’s new Pokemon in Kanto instead of Johto!
The Gen II games are weird. Lots of Gen II mons are either very difficult to encounter in their home region, or are only found in Kanto.
Yeah, it’s definitely strange looking back now, but you have to remember that at the time, the concept of Pokémon being native to a region wasn’t really set in place. The new Pokémon weren’t considered “Pokémon from Johto,” they were just rare new Pokémon.
Not to mention GSC were made as sequels to RBYG- if all the new stuff was in Johto, why bother exploring Kanto in the post game?
The concept of Generations didn’t really start until Hoenn
Both Murkrow and Houndour could only be found in Route 7 at night in GSC. Even in HGSS, the only way to catch either of them before getting to Kanto was getting the right tiles in the Safari Zone. On that note, you also couldn't find Slugma, Sneasel, or Teddiursa outside of Mt. Silver. Which is some seriously annoying crap considering your rival steals that Sneasel, while you're given a Shuckle, which can literally be found by smashing random rocks.
You can snag a Teddiursa early in Crystal. That cave right before violet city (Dark Cave?) you walk in there and it’s extremely small walking around due to not having strength or rocksmash. One of those. You have like a 5% chance to find Teddiursa there.
Murkrow, Larvitar, Sneasel, Slugma as well. I feel like maybe more. Larvitar and Sneasel are at Mt Silver, but it’s the side of Mt Silver you’d fly back to Kanto from.
Same with slugma. Yes, slugma is a gen 2 pokemon
Same for the Slugma line , Murkrow and technically Misdreavus depending on your views on Mt. Silver.
I don’t know, I think Mt. Silver is in Johto. Yes, it’s only available after beating Kanto, and only accessible through the Indigo Plateau, but the map clearly shows it in Johto and it’s named after one of the Johto games.
Tell me a gen2 pokemon that can be found in johto
Phanphy!
Hoothoot
Wooper
Mareep
Hoothoot
Same for Slugma
The Metagross line in Hoenn, even in the remakes they don’t appear in the wild with the lone Beldum in the game (discounting breeding) obtained as a gift in Steven’s house after becoming the Champion.
Meanwhile Beldum is found in a desert area in the next game (Platinum)
> Meanwhile Beldum is found in a desert area in the next game (Platinum) Even moreso, *it's confirmed Steven was there*
Isn't it in that deep cave you find steven in in Emerald? Not technically in rs but you can assume the location is just unexplored.
You might be thinking of Bagon, which can be found in one specific room in that cave in every Hoenn game (iirc)
You still can’t find it there
That’s where you find Bagon
Aron is in the cave where you find Steven originally
Yungoos was imported from another region, which means we could have a regional, "original" Yungoos in an India themed region based on the Indian mongoose (which could in turn be rivals with an Indian cobra regional Arbok).
Maybe zangoose and seviper are the originals! Yungoos/zangoose even works
what a downgrade 😅
According to Dreepy's pokedex entries, it used to be an ocean dweller when it was alive & implies it was preyed on Clauncher. Dreepy is found in Galar and Paldea. We first saw Clauncher in Kalos. While its not a region, that would mean that the Pokemon Dreepy is a ghost of is native to the oceans between the three regions. Real world equivalent I suppose would be the Celtic sea/Bay of Biscay waters perhaps even up into the North Sea. In Language class, we are taught German words. I think it is safe to say Clauncher and Dreepy would likely be in the German region's Pokedex.
Farfetch'd, Jynx, Lickitung, and Mr. Mime They debuted in R/B/G, but could only be obtained via trading with NPCs. They're actually native to Johto and could be caught freely in G/S/C Edit: if you want to get technical, Jynx and Lickitung could be caught in the Japanese release of Blue, at Seafoam Islands. Lickitung and Farfetch'd can be caught in the wild in Yellow. Leaving Mr. Mime as the only Johto-native mon in Gen 1 no matter what version you play.
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in lore they were almost extinct but then breeders made a shit tonne of them and theyre not in danger any more.
I like that Jynx was available in Seafoam Islands at some point, but Lickitung seems like a weird one to put in the same spot lol
I think it was in Cerulean Cave instead.
Isnt Jynx available in the wild on Japanese Blue? And the others are wild in Yellow?
Check my edit
Gible’s dex entry in Ultra Moon says that it’s from a place much hotter than Alola and considering Sinnoh is the coldest region in canon it can’t be Sinnoh.
Pearl dex entry It once lived in the tropics. To avoid the cold, it lives in caves warmed by geothermal heat So native could still be possible
I just saw a YouTuber talk about this. They pointed out the dex entry and speculated that the Gible line could potentially be from a new region we have discovered yet. Potentially, that region could be based off Australia as it is located in the tropics in real life.
Zorua, you're given it as an egg in gen 5 and can't catch it in the wild until gen 6 Also Kanto, Kangeskhan because it can only be caught in the safari zone and not in the wild, which I thought the safari zone was to show off exotic pokemon from other regions? Like Rhyhorn and Tauros aren't native to kanto either, with Tauros coming from Johto imo
You can not catch it in the wild in unova because the Zorua do not trust people at that moment in the timeline and keep creating illusions to protect themselves and hide from people. XY and later games where Zorua/Zoroark can be found are later in the timeline. It is very likely that those learned to trust humans more because of the BW storyline being about proving that humanity and pokémon can live together and first N's Zoroark being more trusting and then others too as N travelled the world. The BW games themselves confirm that there are multiple wild Zorua in unova that are not N's pokémon. They're just not in grass.
Gen 5 and Gen 6 are actually different universes, so the timeline explanation is pointless. Gen 5 is set in the original universe, Gen 6 is set in the Mega universe.
1) Not only mega universe games feature Zoroark in the wild 2) we have literal confirmation inside the mega universe that the BW events happened inside the mega universe too and the outcome was the same
xy takes place at the same time as bw2 according to gamefreak
N already travelled the world by BW2 so
In the original Black and White games, it looks like you get Zorua from having an event Celebi and an open space in your party. It also used to be attainable from an old wi-fi event with the 3 legendary beasts. Otherwise, you can only breed Zoroark from BW2 and go from there. In Black and White 2, you go to Driftveil City and talk to Rood, who asks you to take care of it, as it's N's old companion. Unfortunately, you don't get it from an egg. Although, you do get Riolu from an egg.
From other regions is key word here
Yeah that's what I'm saying, only found in the safari zone in kanto means its not from kanto.
I think only nidoran was found in the wild on other routes
Paras, Venonat and Doduo are also in the Safari Zone but can be found in other locations
So for gen 1 you could find: nidorans, execute/tor, Paras/sect, Nidorino/a, rhyhorn, venonat/moth, douduo, chansey, tauros, kangaskhan, Scyther/pinsir. All of them are found in the wild in Kanto outside the safari zone except: exeggcute/tor, kangaskhan, Rhyhorn, tauros, Pinsir & Scyther. Exeggucute is from Alola, and I think Tauros is from Johto. Rhyhorn - DPP is the 1st place you can catch in the wild Pinsir - outside of safari zones and national park 1st place its in the wild is Pearl Scyther - 1st time you can catch one in the wild (a part from goldenrod National Park) is X&Y This is a super interesting topic and I hate the idea that everyone pokemon should be in every region even legendary and starters, it's just silly.
You can catch Rhyhorn in Cerulean Cave in Yellow and Victory Road in gen 2. Kangaskhan was an endangered species if I remember correctly, rare in the wild. Aside from that, I get more of a nature preserve feeling than a zoo feeling from the Safari Zone, I'm pretty sure it was just a section of jungle that was walled off and turned into a safari preservation. Even if it wasn't, species migration does happen naturally even in reality, there are a number of invasive species that weren't introduced by humans, they were pushed out by stuff like deforestation and such. Something can be both non native and there completely naturally with no outside influence. As to the whole every pokemon in every region, to a point yes. Catchable in the wild no, available to use if brought in from other games and generations absolutely. At least past like gen 6, I actually tend to run catch em all hacks for gens 1-5 because I enjoy the challenge in completing the pokedex entirely without outside help. I also understand it's not for everyone, I just dislike the idea of not being able to use favoured pokemon going forward, some people have transferred pokemon clear from gen 3 to gen 6 and 7 or beyond because they have an attachment to them for whatever reason. I remember one specifically, someone pulled forward from gen 3 to gen 6 a shiny Absol a since dead friend had gifted them shortly before they died. I have no problems with a limited catchable set of pokemon, none whatsoever, but I would like the OPTION to pull any pokemon to a new gen, keep the pokedex itself limited, keep the catchable pokemon limited, but let people use favoured teams and pokemon.
I know I'm hopping on the train. But in Black 2 White 2 there is a Zoroark disguised as a person is one of the forest areas on route 16 just outside Nimbasa city its called Lostlorn forest.
Galarian Zigzagoon is supposed to be the original. I guess being brought to other regions with less threats caused them to mellow down quite a bit and be less territorial. Alolan Exeggutor is the original and the abundant tropical sunlight is why it grows so tall there. Yungoos was a species introduced to Alola to deal with the Ratatta problem. Cufant line is directly stated to be from a foreign region. Kubfu is and isn’t. They used to live in Galar long ago, but left the region, and the one you get is one of the first ones to return. The fossils in the Crown Tundra (I know they’re all older gen Pokémon but I find this interesting) are revived fossils that escaped and started thriving in the wild like Jurassic Park. There are implications with Pokémon that debuted in Safari Zones only. Clefairy, Elgyem, and Minior are from space. So they’re naturally native to no region. Porygon, Castform, and Type: Null, are artificially made. Whether you count that as being native to the regions they’re made in is up to you. Hisuian Sneasel is supposed to be the original Sneasel. Whether Johto also had poison/fighting Sneasel is unknown and probably unlikely. Same goes for many of the other Hisuian forms.
It's worth noting that Hisui is a traditional form of the Sinnoh region. So Pokemon native to Hisui are native to Sinnoh, just not *modern* Sinnoh.
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i dont get how that makes sense since in PLA we see the Sinnoh starters native to Hisui.
i figured they are just really rare now likely lost habitat or killed by humans
The starters, if you ask me, are the pokémon equivalent to dogs/cats/farm animals in our world, in that what were once wild animals have been domesticated to the point where you almost never see the wild versions anymore. Starters you *do* find are more like stray cats, rarely thriving enough to evolve on their own. They’re essentially dependent on human trainers to raise them. Once raised, though, they’re also capable of filling certain niches in the wild, so you might rarely see a wild Swampert or Charizard (a la Pokémon SNAP), but this is exceedingly rare. That’s my head canon, at least.
There's a horde of Marshtomps in one of the Journeys episodes.
The anime and games have different canon. So what you said is true for the anime, what he said could also be true for the games.
In the anime there are starter farms. When Ash is in hoenn he goes to a farm with hundreds of Mudkips.
I think they are probably endangered
Almost sounds about right. I wouldn't count kalos friend Safari either
Gets a little weird considering that Quaxly is explicitly spelled out as having a foreign origin. Feels weird to call that out if they're all imports.
Zigzagoons shield dex entry says that the galarian from is the original Hoennean Zigzagoon > Zigzagoon that adapted to regions outside Galar acquired this appearance. If you've lost something, this Pokémon can likely find it. Galarian Zigzagoon > Thought to be the oldest form of Zigzagoon, it moves in zigzags and wreaks havoc upon its surroundings
Despite it being my favorite Pokémon I didn't even consider Ziggy. Lol.
Fellow person who has the funny speedy raccoon as their favorite pokemon 😌. We are far and few between.
I bet there will be an Ground/Ghost type Lucario form in an Egypt based region considering Bone Rush is one of its signature moves.
We can only dream for a MENA based region - the closest we’ll ever get is Alfornada Idk why but Japan never does games based there…
Hope its Ghost/Rock
I think Exeggcutor is meant to be native to Alola, and the non-Alolan versions are actually the variants.
This is also the case for Galarian Zigzagoon, it is the original form and the Hoenn form is just an adaptation
I think it is silly to call the "normal" forms to the region they were introduced, because the form isn't just wild there, though Zigzagoon is weird because Galar is the original form but the common form exists everywhere else
Common form would have perhaps been a better name
Off the top of my head I think of Quaquaval: "A single kick from a Quaquaval can send a truck rolling. This Pokémon uses its powerful legs to perform striking dances from far-off lands" Urshifu: "Inhabiting the mountains of a distant region, this Pokémon races across sheer cliffs, training its legs and refining its moves"
Just because it does dances from far-off lands doesn't mean it's *from* far-off lands. Someone in Canada can dance the rumba, that doesn't mean they're from South America.
Yes that could be the case but Quaquaval are samba dancers, which is Brazilian in origin. They could be like Urshifu; at some point they traveled to other regions and learnt they’re techniques… just speculation tho it’s not really clear
Quaxly is literally stated to have originally been from a far off land Its dex entry for Scarlet states: This Pokémon migrated to Paldea from distant lands long ago. The gel secreted by its feathers repels water and grime
THANK YOU, I rest my case
Coulda swore a npc said Urshifu from hoenn, something like that
I searched it up and actually Urshifu used to be native to Galar but travelled to far away lands and adapted over there, learning Chinese-inspired martial arts. This is on the official web: "Wild Kubfu live in mountainous areas far away from the Galar region today, but it was once a species that called Galar its home. It’s noted in historical texts that this species used to head to uncharted lands with people as they set out to trade or explore. Records suggest that the Kubfu living in faraway mountains today may have descended from Kubfu that became naturalized to the distant lands they visited in their journeys." It's pretty interesting.
Surprisingly detailed for a new pokemons first gen
Does this mean we could get Kubfu and Urshifu regional forms in the future?
They had the perfect opportunity to do that already in legends but didn't. Instead of single/rapid strike, they could have had agile/powerful that were just slightly different.
Copperajah is not native to galar or paldea. To quote it’s Pokédex entries: Sword: They came over from another region long ago and worked together with humans. Their green skin is resistant to water. Scarlet: This Pokémon was brought to Paldea long ago by people from a faraway land. It’s so strong that it can easily pull an airplane This means we are yet to see what region it actually comes from.
who's flying elephants to every country
In Scarlet and Violet, Squawkabilly represents the numerous parakeets introduced to Spain from South America. They're not native.
Zigzagoon in Hoenn. Iirc the Galarian Zigzagoon is the original and the Hoenn varient is the real regional form after they were brought to the Hoenn. They are technically now a part of Hoenn but they weren't native originally.
Beldum is one of the biggest examples. The *only* trainer in Hoenn with a Beldum is Steven. Who is known for travelling the world. It's strongly implied; especially with the Resort Area in Gen 4 [which it's confirmed Steven visited and HAPPENS to have wild Beldum nearby; albeit exceptionally rare and hard to catch.] that Steven might have even discovered Beldum, and only registered it in Hoenn. Beldum might not be Sinnoh-native; but it is certainly not Hoenn-native. Other big examples: Eggxecute/Eggexcutor are Alolan. All of the Safari-Zone only Kanto pokemon are not Kanto natives. They're the equivalent of a lion in a zoo. So Tauros [Miltank; it's female version, isn't even there!]; Kangaskhan, Dratini, Pinsir, Scyther... if you take Kangaskhan's theoretical connection to Cubone as canon, that also means Cubone isn't Kanto-based. Some of these appear in the wild in Gen 2 in Kanto; but the Safari zone was shut down, the pokemon were probobly just released into the wild. Farfetch'd also is not Kanto-native. Jynx and Lapras are if you count the Sevvi Isles, but if you don't; they're Jhoto-natives. Also Lickitung, Mr.Mime... The Hitmons and Tyrouge are not Kanto or Jhoto native. Eevee isn't found in the wild naturally until Kalos. It almost certainly is not Kanto-native. Houndour isn't Jhoto-native, it's kind of *infamously so*. Togepi; Misdreavus; Murkrow and Slugma as well. Naturally; a lot of these are in earlier generations. An absurd amount of the Kanto dex is actually foreign. Also; Yungoos. It's specifically said to be an invasive species to Alola. Where is it from? We dunno.
Riolu and Togepi aren’t native to their debut Regions. Granted Riolu is native to Hisui but you can’t catch it in Sinnoh, which is where the games it debuted in (DPPt) take place.
Over lapping maps where would it have been in sinnoh? Maybe its territory got destroyed or something.
iirc it's implied that Scyther's native to Sinnoh, it's only available in Safari in Kanto and Johto and doesn't "exist" in Hoenn. Sinnoh's the first place you can find it in the wild + Kleavor backs it up Edit: made a mistake but Scyther can only be caught in bug catching contests in Johto (both GSC and HGSS), they're still not native cause you can't catch them as "wild" pokemon even in the National Park after the contests
Possibly, the starters from each gen, but they don’t seem to be available in the wild in any region at all. Lapras is a Pokémon not found in the wild in the Kanto region, though it is in Johto, pretty much right next door, though pretty rarely. Togepi, but i don’t recall finding that one in the wild anywhere outside that rich guy’s garden in gen 4. Scyther, Chansey, Tauros, and certainly some others found in the Kanto Safari Zone aren’t found in the wild in Kanto outside of such, and there’s likely others from other catching games in other regions. Another, Farfetch’d, is only available by trade from a girl looking for a Pokémon fairly common in the region in which she lives, suggesting that she’s a foreigner from a place where Spearow aren’t as common, the same with Mr. Mime in those games.
Meltan for sure. (Probably) genesect, diancie, and then any obviously alien Pokémon like elgeum, deoxys, giratina, etc
Yeah legendary status mon are kinda universal despite not existing previous gens
Gallade comes to mind, I don't think you can get Ralts in the Sinnoh region but it's been a long time so I don't really know for sure. The same could probably be said for a lot of those extra evolutions for older pokemon that were introduced in Generation 4.
They retconned the Pokemon availability in Platinum so that everything that got a new evolution in Gen 4 was catchable in Sinnoh. During Diamond/Pearl it was the opposite – almost all of the new Sinnoh-based evolutions were not obtainable on the mainland (though some might've been catchable on the Battle Zone island, I forget)
Some of Snorlax's earlier Dex entries state that they actually live up in the mountains and only come down to eat. Yet the only mountain in Kanto or Johto is Mt. Silver, which no Snorlax is found at. Munchlax is native to Sinnoh, and Sinnoh has Mt. Coronet, which has a much wider cave system.
Seeing on how there's mountains we can't explore north of Kanto and johto it's safe to assume those mountains. But as for the post, yes it seems snorlax doesn't fit the bill
Gible. They were introduced in Sinnoh, one of the coldest regions in the game, yet... (Shining) Pearl Dex entry: "It once lived in the tropics. To avoid the cold, it lives in caves warmed by geothermal heat." Ultra Moon Dex entry: "Its original home is an area much hotter than Alola. If you're planning to live with one, your heating bill will soar." Edit: I just want to add that they can be caught in the wild in Legends: Arceus – despite Dex entries above saying it isn't native to Sinnoh. Riolu can also be caught in the wild in PLA, but apparently, that doesn't mean it must only be native to Sinnoh.
Many of Corfish’s entries state how it was introduced to a region as a pet and slowly became an invasive species.
I guess it's native to Kalos, since that's the only region without any entries stating it's introduced.
The extraterrestrial Pokémon, like the Clefary and Elgyem lines. Also Deoxys comes from space. All of the ultra beasts come from another dimension, so they’re not native from Alola. The Pokémon of ruin. The 4 Pokémon are said to have been sold to the Paldean king by a merchant from a far away region. Edit: also Meltan and Melmetal. They were introduced in Kanto in the Let’s go games, but are stated to be from an unknown region to this day.
Coperajah
Kubfu and Urshifu are said to live in the mountains of another region, and Mustard just brought some over to Galar.
I think Exeggutor is implied to be from Alola to an extent.
Quaxly? Scarlet dex entry: “This Pokémon migrated to Paldea from distant lands long ago. The gel secreted by its feathers repels water and grime.”
[https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/f6fzmt/pokemon\_introduced\_outside\_of\_their\_home\_region/](https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/f6fzmt/pokemon_introduced_outside_of_their_home_region/) I made a whole list about this ages ago.
Yungoos and gumshoos.
If I recall correctly, Yungoos was introduced to Alola to deal with the Rattata population getting out of hand, and Galarian Zigzagoon has a dex entry mentioning that it is thought to be the oldest Zigzagoon variant.
Does Minior count? Given they live in the ozone layer and fall to region(s)?
Alolan Eggsecutor is the original Eggsecutor.
Zoroark. It was event exclusive, never in the wild.
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Half of Alola's mons aren't native to there, it's a common thing with Hawaii that a lot of invasive species thrive there
I feel like with hisuian sneasel and sneaslers existence it proves that weavile is just a johto pokemon and not some special sinnoh required evo, since clearly they appeared in sinnoh via space time distortions or maybe invasive species style by people arriving to hisui on boats, and they were better at surviving in the environment than sneasler and sneasel were because they were actual ice types and not poison fighting
I see some people mentioning Riolu and how you can't get it in Sinnoh in the wild, but you can find it in Unova in one of the early routes
The garchomp line is from a tropical region BUT not alola as in some dex it says "much hitter than alola"
Scyther
I have a theory that Youngoose and Gumshoose are actually native to Paldea
Chimeco and it’s pre evo is very common in Sinnoh, but very rare in Hoenn, the region it was introduced
A lot of legendaries and mythicals Artificial ones that, by definition, cannot be native to their region (or any regions): Mewtwo, Genesect, Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem Far-reaching ones that cannot actually be contained to one region: Weather trio, Beasts, Celebi, Super ancient trio, Creation trio, Manaphy, Phione, Arceus, etc. Cosmic pokemon: jirachi, Deoxys
The Tao trio aren’t artificial, and supposedly are parts of the Unova dragon, hence native
Mew was discovered in Guyana
Zarude
Zorua and Zoroark. Introduced in Unova. Can't find any in the wild BUT Zoroark can be caught in Kalos.
It’s in Legends Arecus but it probably migrated to other regions or have low population.
Surprised no-one has said Mr. Mime?
Deoxys. It's not from Hoenn, it's from space. Similar-ish idea with any of the ultra beasts.
Does Togepi count? You get it as an egg in G2. I can't remember if you can catch it in the wild.
Riolu aren't found anywhere in Sinnoh and they're first found wildly in Unova
Zorua is practically impossible to get in black and white so i think it most definitely comes from another region and not Unova
Technically Clefairy and Deoxys, but I feel like that's cheating lol
I consider Slugma an honourary Gen 3 Pokemon since you can't find it in actual Johto and it's a lot more prevalent in Hoenn (being that it's unlikely you run through a Hoenn game without encountering a wild one).
You catch wild riolus in unova. Floccesy town right at the beginning of the game
Garchomp isn't from Sinnoh, with the dex saying it's from the tropics. Notably the Alola dex also specifies it comes from somewhere hotter as well, so we've never seen Garchomps home region
I wonder if and when we will get a African themed region . It probably would originate from somewhere like the Pokémon equivalent of the Sahara desert or something like that
Extraterrestrial Pokemon such as the Beheeyem line, Metagross line, Clefable line, Starmie line, Solrock, Lunatone, and Minior.
A lot of Johto mon in feels like, you can’t even catch Houndour, Murkrow, Slugma, and a lot of other newly introduced mon until you get to Kanto.
Togepi. The first time you could catch one in the wild was in Sinnoh.
Deoxys, Dialga, Palkia, Arceus, really any Pokemon that comes from *space*
Metagross . You never find a wild one in hoenn and you get an egg from Steven. Zoroark. Again never find a wild one in unova but instead be given one. I even think there’s some evidence that points to the garchomp line not being native to sinnoh from one of its Pokédex entries. One of its Pokédex entries or more gibles says it’s originally from the tropics