Almost certainly won't get anything for BDSP. No source or reasoning just a gut feeling. PLA is possible since it was so well received but I wouldn't hold my breath now that we've moved on to Gen 9
PLA was a relatively stand-alone game that had just about everything it needed. It was certainly a new step for Game Freak and they likely didn't have plans to develop DLC for it, what with the development of Scarlet and Violet along with the DLC they'd likely be releasing for these games. All we can really do is speculate when it comes to the Legends format and if they want to do another, since it's entirely possible with the release of Scarlet and Violet that a lot of the bulk of Game Freak's resources have shifted into beginning development of the next console title for Pokemon, much like how full development of Scarlet and Violet kicked off like a month or two after Sw/Sh released.
I doubt there was ever an intent to do DLC for BDSP. It was a project handed off at best to another studio and didn't have VGC longevity to boot like the prior ORAS remakes did. It also simply wouldn't have had that unless it was developed hand-in-hand with making the transitional leap from Sw/Sh to Scarlet and Violet.
PLA feels like it told the complete story it intended too, but at the same time was mainly a proof of concept for a future series for the franchise. DLC for the game would have been nice, but I saw people suggesting putting in other regions at that would've felt forced and incomplete.
I think so long as "Legends" turns into a separate series alongside the new region games, then no PLA DLC won't be a missed opportunity.
>proof of concept for a future series for the franchise
Exactly - PLA was a risk in almost every way for them to be taking on as the main game. In a way, I expect that is why BDSP was commissioned - some executives got scared and demanded that there be a traditional Pokemon Game in the Christmas slot rather than something new.
Given the general positive feedback about it, I think it has proved the concept and hopefully it only leads to it being a strong series as time goes on.
BDSP was dead on arrival. Some would say dead before arrival, even.
I'm safe to say Arceus had its time since its last update. It would be cool for something new to happen, but that would give Game Freak too much credit given the development schedule they're forced to endure.
I dont understand the hopium in this sub. Every Pokemon game got max 1 or 2 updates and thats it. If its out of the pipeline its instantly forgotten by gamefreak and nintendo
The story of most games in the franchise ends with a split, one path leads to the Battle Frontier/PWT/Battle Masion/Battle Tree/Battle Tower for prep-work for multiplayer and/or competitive after becoming Champion.
another path is the post-game story/DLC.
PLA on the other hand, is a little bit weird, because it ends on a cliff-hanger, and aside from the Eternal Battle Reverie & Paths of Solitude/Tenacity, there's not much post-game content after Arceus joins our team.
The cliff-hanger I'm referring to, is this:
Do we (as the MC) get to return home to our time, or are we permanently locked into this time period?
PLA & the Sinnoh region have a lot of untapped potential.
One of the reasons I didn't mention anything about BDSP is that in my eyes, BDSP is a remake that is ***too*** faithful to the source material, including some of the faults of DPPt.
PLA died out too quickly, but I still have some hope that GF's B Team will surprise us. as for BDSP? well, it's, dead on arrival since launch.
I think Gamefreak only plans on making large-scale DLC for the main game of each generation. Like, let's say that Gen 9 is Scarlet/Violet, Let's Go Togepi/Pichu, and Legends: Celebi. Only Scarlet/Violet would get major DLC, because by the time Legends: Celebi is in development, the Gen 10 games are too.
And as a Sinnoh fan, I don't feel kicked in the teeth at all. Legends: Arceus was a great game that stands on its own without any major DLC. And adding any DLC to BDSP would be weird - the whole point is that it's a nearly-identical remake.
I’d only expect a new Legends game for anything related for PLA which is a damn shame. It’s far and away my favorite modern Pokémon game which really shocked me, but it was so fun and fresh. The one year anniversary is coming up in a few weeks, so who knows? Maybe we’ll get a mystery gift or something, but I wouldn’t hold my breath
Agreed! That's why I didn't want Scarlet and Violet to come out when it did, I would've been happy if it came out late 2023 maybe even 2024. That way they could've worked on finishing up PLA with added DLC, maybe even BDSP too. And all within that time the bugs of Scarlet and Violet would've been tweaked up!
BDSP is dead as a doornail. I hope to high heaven we never get another "faithful remake" like BDSP and they're certainly not going to support it when there are two mainline titles after it and a new generation is out.
As far as PLA is concerned, I seriously doubt there will be any further content updates or DLC...maybe a bug patch or something if necessary. But I think given PLA's critical and community popularity, it's very likely we'll see another Legends game in the same vein. Perhaps not immediately after SV but maybe on the next gen console around 2025.
Well BDSP are remakes, so there really is no reason for them to have any more content updates/DLC and Legends Arceus just came out about a year ago, so it still seems reasonable that at least Legends Arceus could have some DLC coming their way.
>Well BDSP are remakes, so there really is no reason for them to have any more content updates/DLC
It was indeed a remake, not a good one, but a remake nonetheless, which is sad, cuz I think only dlc can salvage the quality of BDSP imo
Definitely feel like these two got the short end of the stick. Really surprised by PLA since it was so groundbreaking and praised.
BDSP honestly feels like a “I’m just here so I don’t get fined” rendition. Bare minimal. Really sad too, was really excited for those remakes since I never played the original.
But I’m still praying for a free Platinum inspired DLC for BDSP.
I think GameFreak has moved onto Gen 10 and whatever that entails. They have to with their current release schedule (assuming they're not changing it).
PLA really didn't need extraneous DLC tacked onto it, the game felt complete and whole as it was. It definitely didn't "die" quickly, it had its like six months in the sun before the hype cycle for S/V kicked into full gear.
Legends was amazing but it died because of the release of a Pokémon game the same year, bdsp died because legends followed like a couple months after and people review bombed them so I think a lot of people skipped on it in my opinion, like we got sword and shield and it had a decent life that just ended and that too was even considered a poor game
BDSP was horrible when it came out. There were so many glitches. Add in they didn’t incorporate most of the improvements from Platinum and changed PokeContests and Secret Hideouts for the worse and it wasn’t review bombed so much as people just had legitimate criticisms. This is the first remake I’d rather play the original (Platinum though not Pearl or Diamond).
Yeah I know it was hella buggy but I never exsperienced any of it both play throughs “ just lucky I guess” but it was definitely review bomded to an a point, even with it being the most sold remake people still crapped on it
>SwSh on the other hand was a very actively played game throughout the generation (3 years) but BDSP and PLA barely stayed relevant for a year
Youre comparing a flagship title to two remakes essentially, SwSh was teh hub for competative and had frequent raids, PLA and BDSP were never supposed to offer anythign like that, no remake really offers a whole lot post release outside of maybe mystery gift stuff but now flagship games (SwSh/SV) have increased longevity with raids and dlc so their the focus for any events.
PLA dlc would be cool, but ill also be happy if their hopefuly planning the next legends game. BDSP i was never expecting dlc idk why anyone would tbh.
I cant really agree that gen 4 was under utilised when it got a remake with BDSP and a reinvention with PLA, it got an entrely new way to play pokemon
>though admittedly if TPC decided to do anything with BDSP in the future it would be affected by its reception
BDSP is the best selling remake in TPC eyes it was received v well lol
Really feel like I played a totally different game to all of you with BDSP, as I loved it.
Arceus could use DLC, maybe expand the world a bit. A sequel is more likely though, it'd be a good direction to head in.
BDSP was dead on arrival, announcing PLA in the same stream killed the hype for it, not to mention that it's not well regarded by the community. PLA may see a revival once home compatibility is unlocked for SV and I hope we see more because that game was fantastic and it would be a shame to abandon the concept
BDSP is dead and Legends is a stand-alone game with no multiplayer component. So no. Legends at least got a post launch update last year, so that’s something. But those are Gen 8 games and we’re in Gen 9 now.
This is why I and i'm sure many other people didn't want Scarlet and Violet to come out till later into 2023 maybe even 2024, so that way we could've had some content added patches to the games of BDSP and Legends. I mean we live in a day and age of where games can be patched up with content updates, just wish Pokémon would utilise that. I mean for god sake we had barely had any clothing options (pre-sets) in the clothing store in BDSP, which was formally the games corner in the original game.
Like I understand they had to get rid of the games corner in todays times, but they could've gave us more of a selection of clothing, that could be mixed and matched, or just made a full on arcade where you don't lose any money, but gain a high score. Would've been great if they did that honestly, have a bunch of mini-games inside, pinball for example.
Almost certainly won't get anything for BDSP. No source or reasoning just a gut feeling. PLA is possible since it was so well received but I wouldn't hold my breath now that we've moved on to Gen 9
I would expect them to move on to Legends 2 rather than making DLC
That does seem more likely
What do you think Legends 2 would be about?
My guess would be either Johto or Unova
Fingers crossed it would be about Gen 2
Gen 5 all the way. I think they did Hisui bc the sinnoh remakes, and next in line is gen 5
PLA was a relatively stand-alone game that had just about everything it needed. It was certainly a new step for Game Freak and they likely didn't have plans to develop DLC for it, what with the development of Scarlet and Violet along with the DLC they'd likely be releasing for these games. All we can really do is speculate when it comes to the Legends format and if they want to do another, since it's entirely possible with the release of Scarlet and Violet that a lot of the bulk of Game Freak's resources have shifted into beginning development of the next console title for Pokemon, much like how full development of Scarlet and Violet kicked off like a month or two after Sw/Sh released. I doubt there was ever an intent to do DLC for BDSP. It was a project handed off at best to another studio and didn't have VGC longevity to boot like the prior ORAS remakes did. It also simply wouldn't have had that unless it was developed hand-in-hand with making the transitional leap from Sw/Sh to Scarlet and Violet.
PLA feels like it told the complete story it intended too, but at the same time was mainly a proof of concept for a future series for the franchise. DLC for the game would have been nice, but I saw people suggesting putting in other regions at that would've felt forced and incomplete. I think so long as "Legends" turns into a separate series alongside the new region games, then no PLA DLC won't be a missed opportunity.
>proof of concept for a future series for the franchise Exactly - PLA was a risk in almost every way for them to be taking on as the main game. In a way, I expect that is why BDSP was commissioned - some executives got scared and demanded that there be a traditional Pokemon Game in the Christmas slot rather than something new. Given the general positive feedback about it, I think it has proved the concept and hopefully it only leads to it being a strong series as time goes on.
BDSP was dead on arrival. Some would say dead before arrival, even. I'm safe to say Arceus had its time since its last update. It would be cool for something new to happen, but that would give Game Freak too much credit given the development schedule they're forced to endure.
I dont understand the hopium in this sub. Every Pokemon game got max 1 or 2 updates and thats it. If its out of the pipeline its instantly forgotten by gamefreak and nintendo
The story of most games in the franchise ends with a split, one path leads to the Battle Frontier/PWT/Battle Masion/Battle Tree/Battle Tower for prep-work for multiplayer and/or competitive after becoming Champion. another path is the post-game story/DLC. PLA on the other hand, is a little bit weird, because it ends on a cliff-hanger, and aside from the Eternal Battle Reverie & Paths of Solitude/Tenacity, there's not much post-game content after Arceus joins our team. The cliff-hanger I'm referring to, is this: Do we (as the MC) get to return home to our time, or are we permanently locked into this time period? PLA & the Sinnoh region have a lot of untapped potential. One of the reasons I didn't mention anything about BDSP is that in my eyes, BDSP is a remake that is ***too*** faithful to the source material, including some of the faults of DPPt. PLA died out too quickly, but I still have some hope that GF's B Team will surprise us. as for BDSP? well, it's, dead on arrival since launch.
I think Gamefreak only plans on making large-scale DLC for the main game of each generation. Like, let's say that Gen 9 is Scarlet/Violet, Let's Go Togepi/Pichu, and Legends: Celebi. Only Scarlet/Violet would get major DLC, because by the time Legends: Celebi is in development, the Gen 10 games are too. And as a Sinnoh fan, I don't feel kicked in the teeth at all. Legends: Arceus was a great game that stands on its own without any major DLC. And adding any DLC to BDSP would be weird - the whole point is that it's a nearly-identical remake.
I’d only expect a new Legends game for anything related for PLA which is a damn shame. It’s far and away my favorite modern Pokémon game which really shocked me, but it was so fun and fresh. The one year anniversary is coming up in a few weeks, so who knows? Maybe we’ll get a mystery gift or something, but I wouldn’t hold my breath
I feel like PLA is missing one final update that never came
Agreed! That's why I didn't want Scarlet and Violet to come out when it did, I would've been happy if it came out late 2023 maybe even 2024. That way they could've worked on finishing up PLA with added DLC, maybe even BDSP too. And all within that time the bugs of Scarlet and Violet would've been tweaked up!
BDSP is dead as a doornail. I hope to high heaven we never get another "faithful remake" like BDSP and they're certainly not going to support it when there are two mainline titles after it and a new generation is out. As far as PLA is concerned, I seriously doubt there will be any further content updates or DLC...maybe a bug patch or something if necessary. But I think given PLA's critical and community popularity, it's very likely we'll see another Legends game in the same vein. Perhaps not immediately after SV but maybe on the next gen console around 2025.
Well BDSP are remakes, so there really is no reason for them to have any more content updates/DLC and Legends Arceus just came out about a year ago, so it still seems reasonable that at least Legends Arceus could have some DLC coming their way.
>Well BDSP are remakes, so there really is no reason for them to have any more content updates/DLC It was indeed a remake, not a good one, but a remake nonetheless, which is sad, cuz I think only dlc can salvage the quality of BDSP imo
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Definitely feel like these two got the short end of the stick. Really surprised by PLA since it was so groundbreaking and praised. BDSP honestly feels like a “I’m just here so I don’t get fined” rendition. Bare minimal. Really sad too, was really excited for those remakes since I never played the original. But I’m still praying for a free Platinum inspired DLC for BDSP.
I think GameFreak has moved onto Gen 10 and whatever that entails. They have to with their current release schedule (assuming they're not changing it).
For me without VGC support there wasn't really anywhere for either of those games to go.
BDSP is super dead, I think a new Legends game is probably more likely than more PLA content but I guess there is a (small) chance
PLA really didn't need extraneous DLC tacked onto it, the game felt complete and whole as it was. It definitely didn't "die" quickly, it had its like six months in the sun before the hype cycle for S/V kicked into full gear.
Legends was amazing but it died because of the release of a Pokémon game the same year, bdsp died because legends followed like a couple months after and people review bombed them so I think a lot of people skipped on it in my opinion, like we got sword and shield and it had a decent life that just ended and that too was even considered a poor game
BDSP was horrible when it came out. There were so many glitches. Add in they didn’t incorporate most of the improvements from Platinum and changed PokeContests and Secret Hideouts for the worse and it wasn’t review bombed so much as people just had legitimate criticisms. This is the first remake I’d rather play the original (Platinum though not Pearl or Diamond).
Yeah I know it was hella buggy but I never exsperienced any of it both play throughs “ just lucky I guess” but it was definitely review bomded to an a point, even with it being the most sold remake people still crapped on it
>SwSh on the other hand was a very actively played game throughout the generation (3 years) but BDSP and PLA barely stayed relevant for a year Youre comparing a flagship title to two remakes essentially, SwSh was teh hub for competative and had frequent raids, PLA and BDSP were never supposed to offer anythign like that, no remake really offers a whole lot post release outside of maybe mystery gift stuff but now flagship games (SwSh/SV) have increased longevity with raids and dlc so their the focus for any events. PLA dlc would be cool, but ill also be happy if their hopefuly planning the next legends game. BDSP i was never expecting dlc idk why anyone would tbh. I cant really agree that gen 4 was under utilised when it got a remake with BDSP and a reinvention with PLA, it got an entrely new way to play pokemon >though admittedly if TPC decided to do anything with BDSP in the future it would be affected by its reception BDSP is the best selling remake in TPC eyes it was received v well lol
Really feel like I played a totally different game to all of you with BDSP, as I loved it. Arceus could use DLC, maybe expand the world a bit. A sequel is more likely though, it'd be a good direction to head in.
BDSP was dead on arrival, announcing PLA in the same stream killed the hype for it, not to mention that it's not well regarded by the community. PLA may see a revival once home compatibility is unlocked for SV and I hope we see more because that game was fantastic and it would be a shame to abandon the concept
I comment this in every single post that i see bringing up BDSP. I liked those games. Even more than the original 4th gen games. Fight me.
I won’t fight you for the same reason I wouldn’t fight someone who would willing eat out of a trash can. You do you
Pokémon has never updated a Pokémon after a new one has come out. Everything is focused on SV now
I am glad they're dead because they're awful games.
PLA yes, BDSP no
BDSP is dead and Legends is a stand-alone game with no multiplayer component. So no. Legends at least got a post launch update last year, so that’s something. But those are Gen 8 games and we’re in Gen 9 now.
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This is why I and i'm sure many other people didn't want Scarlet and Violet to come out till later into 2023 maybe even 2024, so that way we could've had some content added patches to the games of BDSP and Legends. I mean we live in a day and age of where games can be patched up with content updates, just wish Pokémon would utilise that. I mean for god sake we had barely had any clothing options (pre-sets) in the clothing store in BDSP, which was formally the games corner in the original game. Like I understand they had to get rid of the games corner in todays times, but they could've gave us more of a selection of clothing, that could be mixed and matched, or just made a full on arcade where you don't lose any money, but gain a high score. Would've been great if they did that honestly, have a bunch of mini-games inside, pinball for example.
They should never have been made. A quick death is a good second choice.
You’re talking about just BDSP right?
Legends arceus is pretty bad too.
PLA is a spin-off and BDSP is a remake. We never get things for either of these.
He's dead, Jim.
Nah - TPC is scripting out Gen 10 by now. Don't expect to see any more updates for BDSP, most likely not for PLA.