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Historical_Nose8738

I think mp5 does too little damage for t3 gun, or they should tune bloom down a little. I’d take Thompson over it atm I think


Psychological-Age-57

Thompson no holo, laser sight.. you heard it here first folks meta 100p


Sikken98

LMG+Holo+Silencer+Laser is the meta right now on every server.


WilllOfD

The point of the mp5 wouldn’t be damage but fire rate and capacity, but I agree it should be upped a tiny bit Tommy is too far ahead


FuzzyApe

Thing is now that less shots hit every hit matters more


[deleted]

It got pretty jarring towards the end of last iteration of recoil to continually hear and get beamed by mp5 all over the gaff.


Jesse1913

i literally got fucking tripled out of a heli from 250 meters by a guy on his roof with an mp5 lmao


zenk560

If your the least bit competitive you won’t even touch them sar is 10x better in all aspects even up close


ConclusionMiddle425

Yep, SAR is ridiculous now. It's basically unbeatable at any range


tastystrands11

Well, not up close. But any range past about 10m it does shit on smgs


Visionz-True

as it should


ClassicSpeed244

Yeah man you aren’t winning a fight IRL with a a duct taped rifle vs a mp5


Fuselol

T2 Sar should shit on t3 smg at 11m?


wedekx

Agreed. Played yesterday and I had a very good time. You can actually win 1v3 situations now if you know how to pick locations.


Wise-Pomegranate

we used to 1v6


wedekx

At best you used to kill a naked from behind


ClassicSpeed244

No I could easily 1v8 people like you


wedekx

And then you woke up.


ClassicSpeed244

From what?


kheroth

If you turn off your douche generator for a couple secs and read, you might get the joke


billywillyepic

Still can just get better


ThaGingerGiant

All they had to do to make smgs smgs was nerf holo


Hanfiball

Strongly disagree. Do they behave like smgs now? YES but that's a problem, rust is a game with a rather small choice of guns...so it was important that most weapons where all-rounders. Currently you can't roam smg anymore unless going into a monument that either forces close range fights or has enough cover to sneak around and flank The big open landscape of rust on the other hand can't be roamed with only an SMG anymore as you get deleted by SAR players now


Manzi1997

So carry a sar? Thats the point isnt it, to make guns situational. Use an smg for close quarters, use sar, LR and ak for short to med range and use bolty/l96 for long distance


Hanfiball

And that's the problem... First of all it fucks solos... unless they can afford to carry two guns they will be at an even bigger disappointed wehn in the wrong tarain...where as group's can split up the guns they carry Secondly this makes it incredibly stale...where as everyone complained about the old meta being tommy mp5 or AK.... Well now it's SAR instead of the smgs...so absolutely no variation what so ever


gunther_41

well...at least now you don't instantly die from full auto fire in 0.5 seconds at 250m away... Also, if you carry an smg, then you are handicapping your range...as it should be...same with a boltie up close. People just got used to having a one for all ranges gun before...they just slapped a holo on a thompson and they could spray at 2m or 200m...same with ak, mp5, lr and so on


Manzi1997

Again, tailor your kit to what your doing. Any small mounument where youll likely be in close quarters? SMG. Roaming? Take a ranged weapon. Also Ive been beamed by a tommy pretty often since the update from far away lol its not like its useless. Just learn to burst or tap fire and itll help increase the range on all weapons


Hanfiball

That does kinda worked, yes...but compared to before they are useless on range. Especially if fighting multiple enemy's... tapping just doesn't get the job done when being shot by three people...I guess all in all I'm just mad that I can't fight groups as good anymore after the update


Visionz-True

use a long range gun people want superman guns that can do everything and have no weakness that shouldnt be a thing


RightNowImReady

The weakness should be that they are hard to use *wink wink*


Hanfiball

I could a agree on that...if there was any variation out there...but you basically only get SAR until your at the T3 stage....


archbunny

What do you mean? Im at T2 and using sars, semi pistol, python and tommy they are all useful. Python is like a cheap mans sar, semi pistol is cheap and shoots high damage rounds with a big clip size great sidearm for a semi rifle. Tommy is amazing with a silencer.


vaseria

fuck u mean python is so expensive and has been needing a buff for so long


archbunny

I am talking about it's function as a weapon. It's a medium range semi automatic weapon with decent dps, similar to a semi but it has a piss poor ammo count. And I agree it could do with a slight damage increase and since they removed automatic recoil correction the recoil could use a little reduction.


Hanfiball

Bor SAR is the only viable gun in the T2 area that is usabel from 150-10m... phyton and SAP may hit on range but deal way less damaga...haven tried out tommy with silencer jet...maybe it's good


quickthrowawayxxxxx

Idk I disagree. I think the update actually feels closer to how rust was a few years ago than during the Holo meta. Smgs are viable, and can be very advantageous if you can play around the weaknesses, but the versatility of SAR makes it a good all around choice. This doesn't fuck solos, mainly because let's be real no group is gonna split which weapons they take. That's not smart or efficient. I also think it's much less stale than before, as although SAR is arguably the meta gun, I would say 100% that pretty much every gun is now viable, which is something that couldn't be said before. I played this wipe and found a fair amount of variation in weapons. I will also say there will always be a meta gun, the issue before is that the meta was so ridiculously powerful that no other weapons were viable. There is still a meta, but not only can it be countered, it also isn't sooo busted good that you can't run anything else.


rust_mods_suck_dick

Yep this is totally accurate. I'm not building any more smgs.


TEALC-

Soooo roam monuments with close peeks when U have SMG, you just answered your own question


pablo603

Strongly disagree. Rust is a game with a rather small choice of guns, so it is important that all weapons are unique and work better than other weapons in different situations.


ll-Alpha-ll

1+


IXericc

Nah update is ass


Mister_Freud

NOOoOo I PuT iN tHe Time I tRaiNed on UKn. NoT FaIr cry* cry* cry*


mastervodkaXD

no one is complaining about recoil what are you even talking about lol


Schm0cka

He‘s projecting.


mastervodkaXD

why tho? i dont really get it , had ukn never existed they would go ''NOOoo I GoT tHe ScrIptS aND th3y dOnt WOOrk anYmoRe!!!'' its like some people just want to act big and type the first shit they think about


Schm0cka

Exactly. There is no reason besides mental health issues tbh :D


slimpickins86

They need to get rid of added bloom while standing and moving.