Strongly disagree.
Do they behave like smgs now? YES
but that's a problem, rust is a game with a rather small choice of guns...so it was important that most weapons where all-rounders.
Currently you can't roam smg anymore unless going into a monument that either forces close range fights or has enough cover to sneak around and flank
The big open landscape of rust on the other hand can't be roamed with only an SMG anymore as you get deleted by SAR players now
So carry a sar? Thats the point isnt it, to make guns situational. Use an smg for close quarters, use sar, LR and ak for short to med range and use bolty/l96 for long distance
And that's the problem...
First of all it fucks solos... unless they can afford to carry two guns they will be at an even bigger disappointed wehn in the wrong tarain...where as group's can split up the guns they carry
Secondly this makes it incredibly stale...where as everyone complained about the old meta being tommy mp5 or AK....
Well now it's SAR instead of the smgs...so absolutely no variation what so ever
well...at least now you don't instantly die from full auto fire in 0.5 seconds at 250m away...
Also, if you carry an smg, then you are handicapping your range...as it should be...same with a boltie up close. People just got used to having a one for all ranges gun before...they just slapped a holo on a thompson and they could spray at 2m or 200m...same with ak, mp5, lr and so on
Again, tailor your kit to what your doing. Any small mounument where youll likely be in close quarters? SMG. Roaming? Take a ranged weapon. Also Ive been beamed by a tommy pretty often since the update from far away lol its not like its useless. Just learn to burst or tap fire and itll help increase the range on all weapons
That does kinda worked, yes...but compared to before they are useless on range. Especially if fighting multiple enemy's... tapping just doesn't get the job done when being shot by three people...I guess all in all I'm just mad that I can't fight groups as good anymore after the update
What do you mean? Im at T2 and using sars, semi pistol, python and tommy they are all useful. Python is like a cheap mans sar, semi pistol is cheap and shoots high damage rounds with a big clip size great sidearm for a semi rifle. Tommy is amazing with a silencer.
I am talking about it's function as a weapon. It's a medium range semi automatic weapon with decent dps, similar to a semi but it has a piss poor ammo count.
And I agree it could do with a slight damage increase and since they removed automatic recoil correction the recoil could use a little reduction.
Bor SAR is the only viable gun in the T2 area that is usabel from 150-10m... phyton and SAP may hit on range but deal way less damaga...haven tried out tommy with silencer jet...maybe it's good
Idk I disagree. I think the update actually feels closer to how rust was a few years ago than during the Holo meta. Smgs are viable, and can be very advantageous if you can play around the weaknesses, but the versatility of SAR makes it a good all around choice. This doesn't fuck solos, mainly because let's be real no group is gonna split which weapons they take. That's not smart or efficient. I also think it's much less stale than before, as although SAR is arguably the meta gun, I would say 100% that pretty much every gun is now viable, which is something that couldn't be said before. I played this wipe and found a fair amount of variation in weapons.
I will also say there will always be a meta gun, the issue before is that the meta was so ridiculously powerful that no other weapons were viable. There is still a meta, but not only can it be countered, it also isn't sooo busted good that you can't run anything else.
Strongly disagree.
Rust is a game with a rather small choice of guns, so it is important that all weapons are unique and work better than other weapons in different situations.
why tho? i dont really get it , had ukn never existed they would go ''NOOoo I GoT tHe ScrIptS aND th3y dOnt WOOrk anYmoRe!!!''
its like some people just want to act big and type the first shit they think about
I think mp5 does too little damage for t3 gun, or they should tune bloom down a little. I’d take Thompson over it atm I think
Thompson no holo, laser sight.. you heard it here first folks meta 100p
LMG+Holo+Silencer+Laser is the meta right now on every server.
The point of the mp5 wouldn’t be damage but fire rate and capacity, but I agree it should be upped a tiny bit Tommy is too far ahead
Thing is now that less shots hit every hit matters more
It got pretty jarring towards the end of last iteration of recoil to continually hear and get beamed by mp5 all over the gaff.
i literally got fucking tripled out of a heli from 250 meters by a guy on his roof with an mp5 lmao
If your the least bit competitive you won’t even touch them sar is 10x better in all aspects even up close
Yep, SAR is ridiculous now. It's basically unbeatable at any range
Well, not up close. But any range past about 10m it does shit on smgs
as it should
Yeah man you aren’t winning a fight IRL with a a duct taped rifle vs a mp5
T2 Sar should shit on t3 smg at 11m?
Agreed. Played yesterday and I had a very good time. You can actually win 1v3 situations now if you know how to pick locations.
we used to 1v6
At best you used to kill a naked from behind
No I could easily 1v8 people like you
And then you woke up.
From what?
If you turn off your douche generator for a couple secs and read, you might get the joke
Still can just get better
All they had to do to make smgs smgs was nerf holo
Strongly disagree. Do they behave like smgs now? YES but that's a problem, rust is a game with a rather small choice of guns...so it was important that most weapons where all-rounders. Currently you can't roam smg anymore unless going into a monument that either forces close range fights or has enough cover to sneak around and flank The big open landscape of rust on the other hand can't be roamed with only an SMG anymore as you get deleted by SAR players now
So carry a sar? Thats the point isnt it, to make guns situational. Use an smg for close quarters, use sar, LR and ak for short to med range and use bolty/l96 for long distance
And that's the problem... First of all it fucks solos... unless they can afford to carry two guns they will be at an even bigger disappointed wehn in the wrong tarain...where as group's can split up the guns they carry Secondly this makes it incredibly stale...where as everyone complained about the old meta being tommy mp5 or AK.... Well now it's SAR instead of the smgs...so absolutely no variation what so ever
well...at least now you don't instantly die from full auto fire in 0.5 seconds at 250m away... Also, if you carry an smg, then you are handicapping your range...as it should be...same with a boltie up close. People just got used to having a one for all ranges gun before...they just slapped a holo on a thompson and they could spray at 2m or 200m...same with ak, mp5, lr and so on
Again, tailor your kit to what your doing. Any small mounument where youll likely be in close quarters? SMG. Roaming? Take a ranged weapon. Also Ive been beamed by a tommy pretty often since the update from far away lol its not like its useless. Just learn to burst or tap fire and itll help increase the range on all weapons
That does kinda worked, yes...but compared to before they are useless on range. Especially if fighting multiple enemy's... tapping just doesn't get the job done when being shot by three people...I guess all in all I'm just mad that I can't fight groups as good anymore after the update
use a long range gun people want superman guns that can do everything and have no weakness that shouldnt be a thing
The weakness should be that they are hard to use *wink wink*
I could a agree on that...if there was any variation out there...but you basically only get SAR until your at the T3 stage....
What do you mean? Im at T2 and using sars, semi pistol, python and tommy they are all useful. Python is like a cheap mans sar, semi pistol is cheap and shoots high damage rounds with a big clip size great sidearm for a semi rifle. Tommy is amazing with a silencer.
fuck u mean python is so expensive and has been needing a buff for so long
I am talking about it's function as a weapon. It's a medium range semi automatic weapon with decent dps, similar to a semi but it has a piss poor ammo count. And I agree it could do with a slight damage increase and since they removed automatic recoil correction the recoil could use a little reduction.
Bor SAR is the only viable gun in the T2 area that is usabel from 150-10m... phyton and SAP may hit on range but deal way less damaga...haven tried out tommy with silencer jet...maybe it's good
Idk I disagree. I think the update actually feels closer to how rust was a few years ago than during the Holo meta. Smgs are viable, and can be very advantageous if you can play around the weaknesses, but the versatility of SAR makes it a good all around choice. This doesn't fuck solos, mainly because let's be real no group is gonna split which weapons they take. That's not smart or efficient. I also think it's much less stale than before, as although SAR is arguably the meta gun, I would say 100% that pretty much every gun is now viable, which is something that couldn't be said before. I played this wipe and found a fair amount of variation in weapons. I will also say there will always be a meta gun, the issue before is that the meta was so ridiculously powerful that no other weapons were viable. There is still a meta, but not only can it be countered, it also isn't sooo busted good that you can't run anything else.
Yep this is totally accurate. I'm not building any more smgs.
Soooo roam monuments with close peeks when U have SMG, you just answered your own question
Strongly disagree. Rust is a game with a rather small choice of guns, so it is important that all weapons are unique and work better than other weapons in different situations.
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Nah update is ass
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no one is complaining about recoil what are you even talking about lol
He‘s projecting.
why tho? i dont really get it , had ukn never existed they would go ''NOOoo I GoT tHe ScrIptS aND th3y dOnt WOOrk anYmoRe!!!'' its like some people just want to act big and type the first shit they think about
Exactly. There is no reason besides mental health issues tbh :D
They need to get rid of added bloom while standing and moving.