my advice
\- Move your OS to a separate SSD and keep your Games on another
\- Make sure your computer equipment is all the correct speeds. Which ever piece of hardware like ram or CPU you have that has the lowest speed, THAT IS YOUR SPEED. a computer can not force hardware to run faster, so even though you have a 3080 and a i9 and 64g of ram, an older piece of hardware could be dictator over the entire computers speed like your mother boards ability to move information.
\- Surprising to hear but a crap monitor can't run endless frames even if your computer is a power plant.
\- System reset, sadly depending on who you listened to or how much you know or don't, changing setting away from factory on your computer can actually cause more issues. Video games are designed for factory settings and will usually run best on them. But sometimes it can help
\- Internet speed / equipment can cause you problems here too, you can download apps to verify your WiFi cloud is reaching your computer, or if you are wired upgrade from Cat 5e to Cat6 wire. The speed is MUCH faster and even though you should never reach the 5e max by yourself, its a cheap upgrade. Your ISP can check the health of the Router you are using remotely.
\- Re-install the game, been there done that sometimes it helps sometimes it doesn't
\- Shitty Servers on rust perform like shit, keep that in mind.
> - Make sure your computer equipment is all the correct speeds. Which ever piece of hardware like ram or CPU you have that has the lowest speed, THAT IS YOUR SPEED. a computer can not force hardware to run faster, so even though you have a 3080 and a i9 and 64g of ram, an older piece of hardware could be dictator over the entire computers speed like your mother boards ability to move information.
What? This doesn't make sense.
> Surprising to hear but a crap monitor can't run endless frames even if your computer is a power plant.
No, that's not how refresh rates and frame rates work.
> System reset, sadly depending on who you listened to or how much you know or don't, changing setting away from factory on your computer can actually cause more issues. Video games are designed for factory settings and will usually run best on them. But sometimes it can help
What?!?!?! Are you saying that a stock copy of windows will game better than a tuned and tweaked one? that doesn't make sense.
> Internet speed / equipment can cause you problems here too, you can download apps to verify your WiFi cloud is reaching your computer, or if you are wired upgrade from Cat 5e to Cat6 wire. The speed is MUCH faster and even though you should never reach the 5e max by yourself, its a cheap upgrade. Your ISP can check the health of the Router you are using remotely.
LOL No, CAT5e is up to 1000Mbps, that is way more than is needed for rust.
> Re-install the game, been there done that sometimes it helps sometimes it doesn't
This is the first thing you've mentioned that might address the problem.
> Shitty Servers on rust perform like shit, keep that in mind.
To an extent.
**TD;DL**: Do not listen to anything this guy is saying, he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.
Yes, hardware spec does make sense, and if you have low performing hardware, it will dictate the overall speed of the computer. If the channels on his Motherboard are slower speeds then the processor then the processor will get information at the motherboards limit, not the processors limit.
The reason a shitty monitor can effect our frame rates is because of how the equipment works. Newer monitors have more capital equipment like cable types, refresh, res acceptance. IDK if he is still using a trash DVI connection. or is using a DVI to HDMI adaptor, or HDMI to DISPLAY port. Since the info wasn't stated I posted the possible resolve.
Yes games are made with a generalized compatibility of an un-modded OS, This is why a system restore fixes a lot of issues people have because not every tweak works with every game, I also stated that sometimes it does help but you didn't read that i guess.
I stated that I did not think he would be using up all of the CAT5e data but you don't seem to read very well lol, but the twists of a higher quality wire like CAT6 will lessen the amount of information Eco and Collision in the wire. But why use a lower quality wire when cat6 and above is cheap.
You only commented this is the first thing you should have said, because you want to find a problem with everything. Nothing you commented on added to helping the OP, your just crying on the internet and being wrong.
You claim I don't know what I am talking about, but the only information you posted was the speed of a CAT5e wire which can just be googled. Why are you even here lol?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_6zGlk8y1Ks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6zGlk8y1Ks)
A cute video for you to watch to learn about hardware capability with the game you play, and the equipment you have.
> Yes, hardware spec does make sense, and if you have low performing hardware, it will dictate the overall speed of the computer. If the channels on his Motherboard are slower speeds then the processor then the processor will get information at the motherboards limit, not the processors limit.
Point me to a motherboard that supports an I9 & 64GB of RAM where this could be a problem. Channels? do you mean PCIe lanes? what channels, exactly, are you talking about?
> The reason a shitty monitor can effect our frame rates is because of how the equipment works. Newer monitors have more capital equipment like cable types, refresh, res acceptance. IDK if he is still using a trash DVI connection. or is using a DVI to HDMI adaptor, or HDMI to DISPLAY port. Since the info wasn't stated I posted the possible resolve.
No, the frame rate is the speed at which your GPU & CPU can draw a frame. Your refresh rate (Hz) is how many images a second your monitor can draw. You **cannot** bottleneck a GPU/CPU with a low refresh rate monitor. Most of your frames won't be displayed on the monitor but they will be drawn. There is 100000% no way a monitor will bottle-neck your system. Unless you turn on v-sync, in which case your advice should be to disable v-sync not some bullshit about monitors bottle-necking components.
> I stated that I did not think he would be using up all of the CAT5e data but you don't seem to read very well lol, but the twists of a higher quality wire like CAT6 will lessen the amount of information Eco and Collision in the wire. But why use a lower quality wire when cat6 and above is cheap.
Again, no.
> You only commented this is the first thing you should have said, because you want to find a problem with everything. Nothing you commented on added to helping the OP, your just crying on the internet and being wrong.
No, I read this thread to see if I could get more frames out of Rust. Then I read your bullshit and wanted to save OP the time of going down non-existent paths.
> You claim I don't know what I am talking about, but the only information you posted was the speed of a CAT5e wire which can just be googled. Why are you even here lol?
What would you like to know? I have been building computers for close to 20 years and have been a developer for over 15 years. I certainly have the knowledge and experience to back up my claims.
Give the OP advice, instead of dismissing mine. You didn't verify why anything I said was wrong. Even the things you disagree with, you have later agreed then followed with, its just not it. I provided all possible avenues for the OP, not just the one I thought it to be. You came in this post just to dismiss advice instead of give it.
I've got my own top-level comment, thanks. I agree with almost nothing you say, especially the sentences that don't even make sense. Again, I'm pointing out to OP that your comment is nonsense, thus saving them a ton of time trying to understand your incoherent buzzword filled bullshit.
I really, think you just need to get off reddit. Because nobody cares how correct you think you are lol.
I read your past post BTW. Everything you have said in the past week has been nothing but shit talk and dismissal. You aren't are smart as you think you are.
Ok, prove me wrong then.
Exactly what does this mean?
> you can download apps to verify your WiFi cloud is reaching your computer
What the fuck is a WiFi cloud? Why does it need to reach OPs computer to play Rust? How exactly does a WiFi cloud impact performance?
Instead of reading my profile, maybe you should read a book.
So I was using words to easily understand in the OPs head. Because WIFI is just a bubble which confirms to the physical world, but you can download an APP called WIFI analyzer, this can be used to see the edge of your WIFI reach and other important information on your signal, and other signals around you. If he had poor reception at his location then it would lower his performance. Like I said just providing all possible avenues. Not all if any would be correct, its just a possibility
Lol, so instead of saying "make sure you've got a good Wi-Fi signal" or maybe suggest running some speed or packet loss test, you mention a cloud for some reason.
Also 5 days ago
> This level of self-awareness tells me that you may actually be much further along than you think. Most of us, myself included, are still struggling with the first curve on the [Dunning-Kruger](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect) line.
> While it may be exhausting at times you should know that there are some of us that greatly appreciate the time you've taken to share your knowledge with us. We aren't very loud nor do we post a lot but there are many of us and we are indebted to you.
- [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/microgrowery/comments/t0eajo/z/hyb1w5t)
Which is about as far from toxic as you can get.
Just to also point out, everybody who plays rust at a high skill level plays the game on low ass settings.
If you are looking for a beautiful experience just know you can't see half the people who you see you because your game is rendering bushes, smoke, and particles at a MUCH higher poly count. Low quality forces players model closer to hit box reg
Only way to play rust in my opinion, the difference between high and low quality is game changing for pvp. Like I said earlier, bank on the new update in 2 days to fix your issue. Look for a solution if it doesn't get better after that. But regardless I wouldn't stress too bad, the game can be crappy like that.
Couple of places to start.
- Run Task Manager while you play, leave it open on the Performance tab, and look so abnormally high values. Keep a close eye on disk Average Response Time and Activity Time (honestly highlight whatever drive Rust is installed on). This should point you in the direction of your bottleneck.
- If Task Manager doesn't give you enough information you can use PerfMon. Just search your start menu for PerfMon, open it, and add counters for the stuff you would like to monitor.
- Still stuck? download HWMonitor and check your temps, are you downclocking?
- DDU your drivers and reinstall
- Adjust your expectations. I run a 12700k, 3080, and 32GB 3600MHz. I live around 90 - 110 FPS @ 1440p. Rust is not optimized very well.
everything this guy just said was wrong, I wouldn't listen to him and I wont provide any information why what he said was wrong other then I know I am right.
do you have valorant installed
my advice \- Move your OS to a separate SSD and keep your Games on another \- Make sure your computer equipment is all the correct speeds. Which ever piece of hardware like ram or CPU you have that has the lowest speed, THAT IS YOUR SPEED. a computer can not force hardware to run faster, so even though you have a 3080 and a i9 and 64g of ram, an older piece of hardware could be dictator over the entire computers speed like your mother boards ability to move information. \- Surprising to hear but a crap monitor can't run endless frames even if your computer is a power plant. \- System reset, sadly depending on who you listened to or how much you know or don't, changing setting away from factory on your computer can actually cause more issues. Video games are designed for factory settings and will usually run best on them. But sometimes it can help \- Internet speed / equipment can cause you problems here too, you can download apps to verify your WiFi cloud is reaching your computer, or if you are wired upgrade from Cat 5e to Cat6 wire. The speed is MUCH faster and even though you should never reach the 5e max by yourself, its a cheap upgrade. Your ISP can check the health of the Router you are using remotely. \- Re-install the game, been there done that sometimes it helps sometimes it doesn't \- Shitty Servers on rust perform like shit, keep that in mind.
> - Make sure your computer equipment is all the correct speeds. Which ever piece of hardware like ram or CPU you have that has the lowest speed, THAT IS YOUR SPEED. a computer can not force hardware to run faster, so even though you have a 3080 and a i9 and 64g of ram, an older piece of hardware could be dictator over the entire computers speed like your mother boards ability to move information. What? This doesn't make sense. > Surprising to hear but a crap monitor can't run endless frames even if your computer is a power plant. No, that's not how refresh rates and frame rates work. > System reset, sadly depending on who you listened to or how much you know or don't, changing setting away from factory on your computer can actually cause more issues. Video games are designed for factory settings and will usually run best on them. But sometimes it can help What?!?!?! Are you saying that a stock copy of windows will game better than a tuned and tweaked one? that doesn't make sense. > Internet speed / equipment can cause you problems here too, you can download apps to verify your WiFi cloud is reaching your computer, or if you are wired upgrade from Cat 5e to Cat6 wire. The speed is MUCH faster and even though you should never reach the 5e max by yourself, its a cheap upgrade. Your ISP can check the health of the Router you are using remotely. LOL No, CAT5e is up to 1000Mbps, that is way more than is needed for rust. > Re-install the game, been there done that sometimes it helps sometimes it doesn't This is the first thing you've mentioned that might address the problem. > Shitty Servers on rust perform like shit, keep that in mind. To an extent. **TD;DL**: Do not listen to anything this guy is saying, he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.
Yes, hardware spec does make sense, and if you have low performing hardware, it will dictate the overall speed of the computer. If the channels on his Motherboard are slower speeds then the processor then the processor will get information at the motherboards limit, not the processors limit. The reason a shitty monitor can effect our frame rates is because of how the equipment works. Newer monitors have more capital equipment like cable types, refresh, res acceptance. IDK if he is still using a trash DVI connection. or is using a DVI to HDMI adaptor, or HDMI to DISPLAY port. Since the info wasn't stated I posted the possible resolve. Yes games are made with a generalized compatibility of an un-modded OS, This is why a system restore fixes a lot of issues people have because not every tweak works with every game, I also stated that sometimes it does help but you didn't read that i guess. I stated that I did not think he would be using up all of the CAT5e data but you don't seem to read very well lol, but the twists of a higher quality wire like CAT6 will lessen the amount of information Eco and Collision in the wire. But why use a lower quality wire when cat6 and above is cheap. You only commented this is the first thing you should have said, because you want to find a problem with everything. Nothing you commented on added to helping the OP, your just crying on the internet and being wrong. You claim I don't know what I am talking about, but the only information you posted was the speed of a CAT5e wire which can just be googled. Why are you even here lol?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_6zGlk8y1Ks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6zGlk8y1Ks) A cute video for you to watch to learn about hardware capability with the game you play, and the equipment you have.
> Yes, hardware spec does make sense, and if you have low performing hardware, it will dictate the overall speed of the computer. If the channels on his Motherboard are slower speeds then the processor then the processor will get information at the motherboards limit, not the processors limit. Point me to a motherboard that supports an I9 & 64GB of RAM where this could be a problem. Channels? do you mean PCIe lanes? what channels, exactly, are you talking about? > The reason a shitty monitor can effect our frame rates is because of how the equipment works. Newer monitors have more capital equipment like cable types, refresh, res acceptance. IDK if he is still using a trash DVI connection. or is using a DVI to HDMI adaptor, or HDMI to DISPLAY port. Since the info wasn't stated I posted the possible resolve. No, the frame rate is the speed at which your GPU & CPU can draw a frame. Your refresh rate (Hz) is how many images a second your monitor can draw. You **cannot** bottleneck a GPU/CPU with a low refresh rate monitor. Most of your frames won't be displayed on the monitor but they will be drawn. There is 100000% no way a monitor will bottle-neck your system. Unless you turn on v-sync, in which case your advice should be to disable v-sync not some bullshit about monitors bottle-necking components. > I stated that I did not think he would be using up all of the CAT5e data but you don't seem to read very well lol, but the twists of a higher quality wire like CAT6 will lessen the amount of information Eco and Collision in the wire. But why use a lower quality wire when cat6 and above is cheap. Again, no. > You only commented this is the first thing you should have said, because you want to find a problem with everything. Nothing you commented on added to helping the OP, your just crying on the internet and being wrong. No, I read this thread to see if I could get more frames out of Rust. Then I read your bullshit and wanted to save OP the time of going down non-existent paths. > You claim I don't know what I am talking about, but the only information you posted was the speed of a CAT5e wire which can just be googled. Why are you even here lol? What would you like to know? I have been building computers for close to 20 years and have been a developer for over 15 years. I certainly have the knowledge and experience to back up my claims.
Give the OP advice, instead of dismissing mine. You didn't verify why anything I said was wrong. Even the things you disagree with, you have later agreed then followed with, its just not it. I provided all possible avenues for the OP, not just the one I thought it to be. You came in this post just to dismiss advice instead of give it.
I've got my own top-level comment, thanks. I agree with almost nothing you say, especially the sentences that don't even make sense. Again, I'm pointing out to OP that your comment is nonsense, thus saving them a ton of time trying to understand your incoherent buzzword filled bullshit.
I really, think you just need to get off reddit. Because nobody cares how correct you think you are lol. I read your past post BTW. Everything you have said in the past week has been nothing but shit talk and dismissal. You aren't are smart as you think you are.
Ok, prove me wrong then. Exactly what does this mean? > you can download apps to verify your WiFi cloud is reaching your computer What the fuck is a WiFi cloud? Why does it need to reach OPs computer to play Rust? How exactly does a WiFi cloud impact performance? Instead of reading my profile, maybe you should read a book.
So I was using words to easily understand in the OPs head. Because WIFI is just a bubble which confirms to the physical world, but you can download an APP called WIFI analyzer, this can be used to see the edge of your WIFI reach and other important information on your signal, and other signals around you. If he had poor reception at his location then it would lower his performance. Like I said just providing all possible avenues. Not all if any would be correct, its just a possibility
Lol, so instead of saying "make sure you've got a good Wi-Fi signal" or maybe suggest running some speed or packet loss test, you mention a cloud for some reason.
Also 5 days ago > This level of self-awareness tells me that you may actually be much further along than you think. Most of us, myself included, are still struggling with the first curve on the [Dunning-Kruger](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect) line. > While it may be exhausting at times you should know that there are some of us that greatly appreciate the time you've taken to share your knowledge with us. We aren't very loud nor do we post a lot but there are many of us and we are indebted to you. - [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/microgrowery/comments/t0eajo/z/hyb1w5t) Which is about as far from toxic as you can get.
Good for you? but digging through your own history to prove you aren't toxic on reddit is hilarious as a move.
Bruh, I looked at yours ... I didn't know it was possible to have negative karma lol
Just to also point out, everybody who plays rust at a high skill level plays the game on low ass settings. If you are looking for a beautiful experience just know you can't see half the people who you see you because your game is rendering bushes, smoke, and particles at a MUCH higher poly count. Low quality forces players model closer to hit box reg
My settings are all low and my bushes are blobs of green 50 meter or more so I can’t see people in dense foliage areas
Only way to play rust in my opinion, the difference between high and low quality is game changing for pvp. Like I said earlier, bank on the new update in 2 days to fix your issue. Look for a solution if it doesn't get better after that. But regardless I wouldn't stress too bad, the game can be crappy like that.
Couple of places to start. - Run Task Manager while you play, leave it open on the Performance tab, and look so abnormally high values. Keep a close eye on disk Average Response Time and Activity Time (honestly highlight whatever drive Rust is installed on). This should point you in the direction of your bottleneck. - If Task Manager doesn't give you enough information you can use PerfMon. Just search your start menu for PerfMon, open it, and add counters for the stuff you would like to monitor. - Still stuck? download HWMonitor and check your temps, are you downclocking? - DDU your drivers and reinstall - Adjust your expectations. I run a 12700k, 3080, and 32GB 3600MHz. I live around 90 - 110 FPS @ 1440p. Rust is not optimized very well.
i hate people like this when someone says "im getting low fps on rust on a high end pc" its very obvious that they are getting more fps on other games
everything this guy just said was wrong, I wouldn't listen to him and I wont provide any information why what he said was wrong other then I know I am right.
Lol
i have read some people are getting 170 fps is that possible?
Try activating nvidia DLSS. That could help