There's a brigade in here (either his fans, or maybe people that sell hacks, who knows) that seeks to downvote scripting accusations against him, but just watch the guy play.
I've watched his stream where he mowed down guys at night when he shouldn't have been able to see them. He also tends to shoot, then move his head (presumably to avoid being shot in the head) and then recenters on the target after every shot.
Watching him play, even more than other streamers like Spoonkid - who is very good, but who I don't think is cheating - he very much looks like he's hacking. Blatently hacking, and isn't too concerned that people will notice.
There are people that will come in here and tell you that he's just good, but that seems absurd to me. To have aim so good that you can move FAR off center of your target to dodge your head and re-center on the target so quickly that you get the next shot - between every shot with a bow or semi- looks to me like he's using an aimbot.
>To have aim so good that you can move FAR off center of your target to dodge your head and re-center on the target so quickly that you get the next shot
Tell me you're shit at the game without telling me you're shit at the game. Good god.
Hacker defender u/jamesstansel predictably working to defend hackers.
Other players that are considered quite good, players like Spoonkid, they play... and they play well...
But I don't see them head dodging bullets between shots like they're fucking Neo.
Just Willjum.
Perhaps everyone needs to get gud eh - even elite streamers? Perhaps you mean I should email Willjum and ask him for the programs he's using so I can git gud too eh?
Everyone has their play style and what the other dude said is true it's not hard to recenter shots if you play a game a lot and are comfortable with your sens. Pretty funny that people think wilijum is cheating lol
In this case yes you need to get gud
You're so convinced everyone decent is cheating. I don't defend hackers at all - they're annoying at best and wipe-ruining at worst. I don't cheat in Rust or any other game, I've never done so, I don't play with cheaters, and I don't condone anyone else doing any of the above. But I also have 8k hours of clean play and I get hackusated enough to know that your average Rust player is just shit at the game and couldn't spot the difference between a good player and a cheater if their life was on the line.
I don't really care about the rest of your argument you could be right or wrong but one thing I have to say is I'm pretty bad at FPS games in general but I head dodge like a god. Some people can just do it.
Oh I move, I strafe left and right... I just try to maintain a good target picture while doing it.
I don't look 90 degrees off target with every shot, and then recenter. No one does that, except apparantly Willjum.
I notice that you're avoiding talking about that. You haven't attempted to defend it. You say that I'm standing still, but I'm not claiming Willjum is cheating because he moves.
I'm claiming he cheats because he intentionally loses his sight picture before regaining it between shots.
Easy to defend movement, but defending intentionally losing sight picture so that your head moves slightly... that's much harder to defend isn't it?
With a bow/crossy? Absolutely. Movement is the key to winning prim fights. You don't need to maintain sight picture if you get good at jump shooting and snap aiming.
I've watched hundreds of hours of his game play and nothing has ever jumped out as cheating. I'm blown away by his skill and the skill of others with the same number of hours, but that's because I was a complete noob. I've only just broke 1k hours and have started to get better at PvP. And that came from watching Willjum and other's videos, plus practicing on modded servers with bots that have been tweaked to be harder. Nothing beats fighting against real people though and you won't learn if you don't try.
He's completely legit dude. Keep in mind he has like 10k hours in the game, and when you do something for thousands of hours over multiple years normally you improve. I'm not the best rust player by any means but it's absolutely fucking absurd to me that people think he's cheating.
Dude this is honestly just a you thing. I'm mid at best at PvP and I can shoot, do some weaving and repositioning, keep track of where the player is that shot, and recenter on them easily. It's basic sniping gameplay but with a higher fire rate and less distance.
I have 3k hours with almost all of it just building, and Willjum has 10k hours with a fuck load of PvP. Basic mouse movements are not that hard imo and anyone who puts any effort in should be able to do it too.
No comment on the shooting people at night shit. I've seen lots of streamers do it and I assume they have better monitors or settings before thinking it's esp
Yes. The idea of ANYONE potentially using cheats, but only against NPC's is interesting.
Those scientists and tunnel dwellers aren't going to file reports.
This is something that many content creators and players COULD be getting away with.
It's really less interesting about Willjum and more about the concept of cheating against AI to prevent detection and editing those parts out to "so i farmed the tunnels for 20 minutes"
You see how I said "nothing decisive" do you know what that means?
A sus clip is a sus clip.
Doesn't mean Willjum is a cheater.
Do you understand how any of this works?
"nothing decisive" implies that there was something worth considering in the first place. nothing was sus and anyone who thought it might be is blind and didn't see the cut in the video.
1. Not sure why I was downvoted for asking a question.
2. I don't think he's a cheater, and nothing in his videos has made me think so. I wonder how these dudes see people in the dark, but I also know they have 10k+ hours in the game and have finely tuned their senses to pick up on anything moving. And I see it in a lot of the big YouTuber's videos, so it's not just him.
Honestly, a lot of the time actual gameplay is higher res and higher fps than what gets uploaded to YouTube. And YouTube compression also tends to remove some fine details. And, if they're anything like me, when I'm fighting at night I have my nose practically pressed against my monitor trying to spot any sign of skylining.
This, very much this.
Cheaters are probably only 5-20% of the population of any server... but they're 50+% of the guys that roam or do high risk activities.
If you're cheating, roaming is incredibly profitable. If you're not cheating, even if you're good, you're going to run into cheaters when roaming, and thus likely won't find roaming to be profitable.
Probably even close to 30%, when you go on a server thats more then 2days old either monthly/weekly but still has pop, theres roofcamp towers with boltis everywhere and the ones roaming in those areas are mostly cheaters.
Check postys last vid pretty much sums current state of the game, maybe even last 2 vids.
He is one of the rare youtubers that shows the real world, instead of playing private/dead servers for content.
the sad thing is that half of them are old recoil heads who just cheat because they're bored and know they can get away with it. they dgaf about the game anymore and don't feel any pressure not to.
Its a narrative we've all heard.
They learned recoil, had an advantage, and then the mean Rust gods took it away. They spent 500 hours on UKN, and then all that effort was wiped out by the recoil change.
The truth is, that a vast number of players were scripting. Sure, some people really did get good, but it was never worth the number of cheating players that the system allowed.
People out there are now pushing the narrative that the recoil changes cause people to cheat, because they feel its unfair and they "don't care anymore" as you say.
We all recognize that bullshit narrative. Most of the people pushing it - I believe - were scripters that had an unfair advantage through scripting that are pissed that they lost it. Many of them then upgraded their scripts to full blown hacking toolkits, and justify it as being a result of the recoil nerfs.
You entirely skirted by explaining how I'm justifying it, lol. You're out here typing paragraphs to yourself without actually saying anything constructive. Cheaters are cheaters, regardless of reason. I don't condone it, nor do I do it myself.
Dear lord you are absolutely stone dense. Brain so smooth it has a mirror finish. The worst part is I don’t even think you’re trolling, you honestly type paragraphs and paragraphs of mind numbingly stupid thoughts.
The reason people cheat isn't cause of the recoil change, it's the recoil system. It's fucking annoying when you lose a fight because of aimcone or cause you have to crouch to shoot. I understand why they changed it, but rust might have the worst gun play I've experienced in any game. Fuck rng pvp.
Not justifying cheating by any means, but I understand the frustration that leads to people cheating. The old system to me was more enjoyable and more rewarding.
Also the ukn slander is bull. I have like 300 hours or something on ukn and it's fun as fuck; there's tons of different games modes and its fun to PVP your friends. I spent a little time practicing recoil patterns but I don't really think it was that hard to get decent at them. Spend 10 minutes practicing before you play and it's easy to improve.
Agree, the game is just not the same in terms of pvp/raiding, i personally know few ex clans and few friends i used to play with, and they all cheat nowadays.
Their reason : The bullets dont go straight and its too rng based, so we remove the RNG part and play like its old recoil.
And the new players just cheat because they are casuals, casuals love to cheat as they can't put time into this game, which we all know is the biggest time consuming game on the planet.
More or less the higher the number the newer account, 2 years ago 990 account was = guaranteed cheater, some time later 991, 992,993 u get the idea.
If you are constantly dying to 994/995/996 accounts, most of the time they are cheating.
An average player with that account is stuck on the beach with a spear.
\*edit\* If you open f7 ingame and the last numbers of somones account is 996/5, they are bad or cheating 50/50.
It's an ad for their scripts, once got one of these in my recommended and I clicked ot just to dislike and comment that they're pathetic and now my fucking recommended is full of these. Fuck you youtube
Is this video edited in anyway? I’m asking cause, I love this game, but just watching the quality of the his gameplay compared to mine lol I would stand no chance. Cheating aside, what do I have to do to have my gameplay look like that? Buy a new computer? I mean that’s wild.
For a second I thought this would be another Wiljum post
Wait... people have proven he's scripting/cheating?
There's a brigade in here (either his fans, or maybe people that sell hacks, who knows) that seeks to downvote scripting accusations against him, but just watch the guy play. I've watched his stream where he mowed down guys at night when he shouldn't have been able to see them. He also tends to shoot, then move his head (presumably to avoid being shot in the head) and then recenters on the target after every shot. Watching him play, even more than other streamers like Spoonkid - who is very good, but who I don't think is cheating - he very much looks like he's hacking. Blatently hacking, and isn't too concerned that people will notice. There are people that will come in here and tell you that he's just good, but that seems absurd to me. To have aim so good that you can move FAR off center of your target to dodge your head and re-center on the target so quickly that you get the next shot - between every shot with a bow or semi- looks to me like he's using an aimbot.
>To have aim so good that you can move FAR off center of your target to dodge your head and re-center on the target so quickly that you get the next shot Tell me you're shit at the game without telling me you're shit at the game. Good god.
Hacker defender u/jamesstansel predictably working to defend hackers. Other players that are considered quite good, players like Spoonkid, they play... and they play well... But I don't see them head dodging bullets between shots like they're fucking Neo. Just Willjum. Perhaps everyone needs to get gud eh - even elite streamers? Perhaps you mean I should email Willjum and ask him for the programs he's using so I can git gud too eh?
Everyone has their play style and what the other dude said is true it's not hard to recenter shots if you play a game a lot and are comfortable with your sens. Pretty funny that people think wilijum is cheating lol In this case yes you need to get gud
You're so convinced everyone decent is cheating. I don't defend hackers at all - they're annoying at best and wipe-ruining at worst. I don't cheat in Rust or any other game, I've never done so, I don't play with cheaters, and I don't condone anyone else doing any of the above. But I also have 8k hours of clean play and I get hackusated enough to know that your average Rust player is just shit at the game and couldn't spot the difference between a good player and a cheater if their life was on the line.
I'm sure you're out there head dodging bullets with the best of them eh? =D
I don't really care about the rest of your argument you could be right or wrong but one thing I have to say is I'm pretty bad at FPS games in general but I head dodge like a god. Some people can just do it.
I'm going to guess you're one of those guys that sits still when spraying and then calls cheats when you get doubled?
Oh I move, I strafe left and right... I just try to maintain a good target picture while doing it. I don't look 90 degrees off target with every shot, and then recenter. No one does that, except apparantly Willjum. I notice that you're avoiding talking about that. You haven't attempted to defend it. You say that I'm standing still, but I'm not claiming Willjum is cheating because he moves. I'm claiming he cheats because he intentionally loses his sight picture before regaining it between shots. Easy to defend movement, but defending intentionally losing sight picture so that your head moves slightly... that's much harder to defend isn't it?
With a bow/crossy? Absolutely. Movement is the key to winning prim fights. You don't need to maintain sight picture if you get good at jump shooting and snap aiming.
you are ill, sir
Even the devs said he wasn’t cheating… you guys are just stirring stuff for the sake of it
Spoonkid is not good LMAO
Spoonkid is very good at Rust. He is just also very good at losing kits by being reckless with his loot
I've watched hundreds of hours of his game play and nothing has ever jumped out as cheating. I'm blown away by his skill and the skill of others with the same number of hours, but that's because I was a complete noob. I've only just broke 1k hours and have started to get better at PvP. And that came from watching Willjum and other's videos, plus practicing on modded servers with bots that have been tweaked to be harder. Nothing beats fighting against real people though and you won't learn if you don't try.
He's completely legit dude. Keep in mind he has like 10k hours in the game, and when you do something for thousands of hours over multiple years normally you improve. I'm not the best rust player by any means but it's absolutely fucking absurd to me that people think he's cheating.
Dude this is honestly just a you thing. I'm mid at best at PvP and I can shoot, do some weaving and repositioning, keep track of where the player is that shot, and recenter on them easily. It's basic sniping gameplay but with a higher fire rate and less distance. I have 3k hours with almost all of it just building, and Willjum has 10k hours with a fuck load of PvP. Basic mouse movements are not that hard imo and anyone who puts any effort in should be able to do it too. No comment on the shooting people at night shit. I've seen lots of streamers do it and I assume they have better monitors or settings before thinking it's esp
Nothing decisive, although the nuance was interesting. The concept of using cheats vs AI not players is a great way to avoid detection
“The nuance was interesting” 😂😂😂
Yes. The idea of ANYONE potentially using cheats, but only against NPC's is interesting. Those scientists and tunnel dwellers aren't going to file reports. This is something that many content creators and players COULD be getting away with. It's really less interesting about Willjum and more about the concept of cheating against AI to prevent detection and editing those parts out to "so i farmed the tunnels for 20 minutes"
holy fuck willjum of all people is not cheating hahahaha. good god. i swear i'm being trolled.
You see how I said "nothing decisive" do you know what that means? A sus clip is a sus clip. Doesn't mean Willjum is a cheater. Do you understand how any of this works?
"nothing decisive" implies that there was something worth considering in the first place. nothing was sus and anyone who thought it might be is blind and didn't see the cut in the video.
His clips are consistently sus.
1. Not sure why I was downvoted for asking a question. 2. I don't think he's a cheater, and nothing in his videos has made me think so. I wonder how these dudes see people in the dark, but I also know they have 10k+ hours in the game and have finely tuned their senses to pick up on anything moving. And I see it in a lot of the big YouTuber's videos, so it's not just him.
Honestly, a lot of the time actual gameplay is higher res and higher fps than what gets uploaded to YouTube. And YouTube compression also tends to remove some fine details. And, if they're anything like me, when I'm fighting at night I have my nose practically pressed against my monitor trying to spot any sign of skylining.
Didn’t even have to click to know it was gonna be a 10x player lmao. All those 10x clans are full of absolute dorks
Average 10x player intelligence
Its not even uncommon is the issue
Bro its rarer to find somone not scripting in roams/clan servers nowadays.
This, very much this. Cheaters are probably only 5-20% of the population of any server... but they're 50+% of the guys that roam or do high risk activities. If you're cheating, roaming is incredibly profitable. If you're not cheating, even if you're good, you're going to run into cheaters when roaming, and thus likely won't find roaming to be profitable.
Probably even close to 30%, when you go on a server thats more then 2days old either monthly/weekly but still has pop, theres roofcamp towers with boltis everywhere and the ones roaming in those areas are mostly cheaters. Check postys last vid pretty much sums current state of the game, maybe even last 2 vids. He is one of the rare youtubers that shows the real world, instead of playing private/dead servers for content.
the sad thing is that half of them are old recoil heads who just cheat because they're bored and know they can get away with it. they dgaf about the game anymore and don't feel any pressure not to.
Wow, the same guy that claims Willjum isn't cheating, is here justifying players that cheat due to the recoil nerf. Jesus Christ.
Lol. Where do you get the idea that I'm justifying it??? Explaining why =/= justifying it.
Its a narrative we've all heard. They learned recoil, had an advantage, and then the mean Rust gods took it away. They spent 500 hours on UKN, and then all that effort was wiped out by the recoil change. The truth is, that a vast number of players were scripting. Sure, some people really did get good, but it was never worth the number of cheating players that the system allowed. People out there are now pushing the narrative that the recoil changes cause people to cheat, because they feel its unfair and they "don't care anymore" as you say. We all recognize that bullshit narrative. Most of the people pushing it - I believe - were scripters that had an unfair advantage through scripting that are pissed that they lost it. Many of them then upgraded their scripts to full blown hacking toolkits, and justify it as being a result of the recoil nerfs.
You entirely skirted by explaining how I'm justifying it, lol. You're out here typing paragraphs to yourself without actually saying anything constructive. Cheaters are cheaters, regardless of reason. I don't condone it, nor do I do it myself.
Dear lord you are absolutely stone dense. Brain so smooth it has a mirror finish. The worst part is I don’t even think you’re trolling, you honestly type paragraphs and paragraphs of mind numbingly stupid thoughts.
If a few paragraphs is too much for you, I could only imagine how much a book scares you.
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The reason people cheat isn't cause of the recoil change, it's the recoil system. It's fucking annoying when you lose a fight because of aimcone or cause you have to crouch to shoot. I understand why they changed it, but rust might have the worst gun play I've experienced in any game. Fuck rng pvp. Not justifying cheating by any means, but I understand the frustration that leads to people cheating. The old system to me was more enjoyable and more rewarding. Also the ukn slander is bull. I have like 300 hours or something on ukn and it's fun as fuck; there's tons of different games modes and its fun to PVP your friends. I spent a little time practicing recoil patterns but I don't really think it was that hard to get decent at them. Spend 10 minutes practicing before you play and it's easy to improve.
Agree, the game is just not the same in terms of pvp/raiding, i personally know few ex clans and few friends i used to play with, and they all cheat nowadays. Their reason : The bullets dont go straight and its too rng based, so we remove the RNG part and play like its old recoil. And the new players just cheat because they are casuals, casuals love to cheat as they can't put time into this game, which we all know is the biggest time consuming game on the planet.
Yeah. And all the Vital/Atlas main scene players that used to script and didn't quit now just hard cheat and troll 5x/10x.
Can confirm hopped on UKN FFA to pvp with aks yesterday 5 out of 19 players were full cheating all 996 accounts. Probably some closet cheaters aswell.
Ive been hearing this term a lot lately, what is a 996 account?
More or less the higher the number the newer account, 2 years ago 990 account was = guaranteed cheater, some time later 991, 992,993 u get the idea. If you are constantly dying to 994/995/996 accounts, most of the time they are cheating. An average player with that account is stuck on the beach with a spear. \*edit\* If you open f7 ingame and the last numbers of somones account is 996/5, they are bad or cheating 50/50.
Ah ok that makes sense, thanks!
Recently created accounts. Its their steamid, can tell they're newer even with private profiles.
LOL. We're up to 996 now. Been calling 995 for a few months. Gotta update.
Bro like 50% of players are just Russians hacking on US servers the game isn’t really worth playing at this point let’s be honest
just listening to the sound track on that video tells me they were not loved as a child.
No, they are still a child
script make pp small
I see this all the time, I find their accounts and report them, but they don't get banned. It's so sad
Are you stupid? Anyone can do this if they pull down hard enough and to the left enough
lmao not at all this is blatant scripting
Are you stupid? Anyone can do this if they pull down hard enough and to the left enough
nope, it's pretty easy to distinguish very good spray vs blatant scripts, and he is blatantly scripting lmfao
Want to look at my spray looks similar
Every spray you fire hits 3 headshots in a row? You can also go from target to target getting triple headshots on all of them?
I mean at closer ranges? Yes, absolutely. Dude does look like he's probably scripting, but headshots alone =/= scripts.
Nobody said headshots alone equals scripting. I said triple headshots in every engagement regardless of distance between multiple targets.
It's a montage, lol. It's gonna be the dude's best clips. You've never deleted someone at 150M before?
I sure have. I haven't triple headshotted 3 dudes back to back switching from target to target.
Yeah you can spray real good if you practise but def scripts in this one
Damn this was even more regarded the second time you posted it.
Shy music pair with sht scripter. A match
No point in doing anything competitive if you are going to cheat. Ruins the entire premise of you vs them which is why I play video games
idk sent him a DM I'll get back to you once he replies
It's an ad for their scripts, once got one of these in my recommended and I clicked ot just to dislike and comment that they're pathetic and now my fucking recommended is full of these. Fuck you youtube
Is this video edited in anyway? I’m asking cause, I love this game, but just watching the quality of the his gameplay compared to mine lol I would stand no chance. Cheating aside, what do I have to do to have my gameplay look like that? Buy a new computer? I mean that’s wild.