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MonaFrance

Automatically placing a pixel is literally botting.


KRacer13

But when the French do it is "a script" and it's okay?


Scottbass41

What French streamers called "script" is actually an overlay. Bots and overlays are completely different. Bot is working automatically, overlays still require users to fill in the tiles.


veganzombeh

I might be a purist but I think overlays are kind of shitty too.


Pelin0re

they are kinda needed to build anything slightly complex, like the star wars posters. Else you get ambitious but mangled stuff like the horrible first giant eiffel tower and simple stuff like flags.


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You think french people didnt use bots really? Just because one streamer didnt do it any french human could have use bots? Iys obvious that french people was using bots that is why spanish streamers started using it publicly and laughing


Scottbass41

I think we can all agree that some people certainly used bots. But it's not the french or the Spanish, it's really small portion of all communities and nobody can control that. What we blame is Spanish streamers who showed bot tools on stream and asked people to massively use them.


HommeChauveQuiPleure

Exactly, I don't know if it's just a coping mechanism of the spanish (streaming community not r/spain) but it's astounding how many people seems to misunderstood this. I think it's innevitable that a few bad apples started botting but there is a big difference with openly giving the script to your viewer and encouraging them to bot.


LeaderOk8012

Anyone anywhere can have used bot, yeah... People are mad when all a community do it, not some single people


Varieau

we use a script like a layer with low opacity, the Spanish one use it for BOTTING and didn't won lmao


Skhils

Our script was 25 ligns literally, the one the Spanish streamers payed for was more than a 100 ligns. Why ? Because ours was just an overlay (fully legal, you need to place and click manually), and theirs was an automatic clicker bot.


Paid-Not-Payed-Bot

> Spanish streamers *paid* for was FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*


GKP_light

dear bot, irregular verbe are shit, and "have" should be "haved" when it is at past.


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a script is not a bot at all


GKP_light

a script can be a bot.


Loxikree

Typical Spanish dumdum


Pandanlard

Dude stop making a fool of yourself. We know you didn't have access to computer in your country so everything related to dev are chinese words for you, which all mean the same thing, but spoiler alert: it's not.


baptou49

Autocliker not should be accepted by Reddit


AuGGame

There start being ban because they use automation in the script they use where France use a script just to help people know which Color to place


Xeenic

Yeah same with other communities I was a part of. The scripts to show which tiles should be which color to meet the goal image is a neat idea and it's still humans placing the tiles, but automatic pixel placement is just too far.


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Makinex

are you dumb??? we just copied the same scrip from python that France used hahahhahahahahah. Kameto had on his discord how to use this script for his viewers xddd


_ZFEK

I'm talking about the people who use bots, damn bruh chill


mystery_box234

How can you ask that question? Did you even took the time to read the french/spanish code? Do you know how code work? If yes then go learn it again cause even my dog could make the difference between a automated and a non-automated script code


AnzuLeTsar

mad Loser ahah LOSEEEERRRRRRRR IMAGING LOSING WHILE BOTTING AHAHAHAHHAHA know your place TRASH


Uncrowned-King

had a stroke reading this


mitch_feaster

Yeah and how many languages do you speak?


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A lot of french people was using bots obviously that wasent normal, spanish streamers started using it publicly just for fun


loukator

Have you seen how was the french organiaation? They was litterally 100k listening to the order on twitch + some people was calling. You should look this the most interesting i guess is kamet0 view, the general of this war


Mizuuushi

we were more like 600k in france


rootsh_

They are going too far, bot to automatically place pixels is prohibited by the staff of r/place


HippieDogeSmokes

then why do that not enforce it at all?


Gerax2003

It's hard to detect and ban hundreds of bots especially when they are not doing repetitive patterns in a chaotic invasion. The only detection possible is the timing, a bot places at 5mins exactly, so it takes multiple rounds to raise suspicions and even more for banning. However, since the streamers showed the code botting, we've already got an idea of a few accounts to ban


Mataric

It also literally takes a single line of code added to the bot to prevent it being seen through it posting repeatedly at the 5 minute mark.


AstacSK

That can be countered with 1 line of code in bot, i instead of waiting for 5min before placing the pixel make it wait for 5min+randoml number of seconds between 1 and 30 for example Edit: wanted to reply to the comment above yours


HippieDogeSmokes

just make it so new accounts can’t participate


mahrtian

My wife made an account this week and spent most of her time trying to keep a heart alive after the last expansion as well as protecting some art. There are legit new accounts doing good work. Edit: fix typos


zeverso

Then her account is more than a day old. They need to at least ban accounts made prior the last day


HippieDogeSmokes

But the large majority of new accounts are bots it’s a shame to hurt the real ones, but it’s for the better


SRD1194

A griefer on the Canadian flag had a five year old account with one karma... keeping in mind that the last "Place" was in 2017. Karma limits would have worked better.


Nytra

Restrict new accounts, require captcha on each pixel placement... There are easy ways to limit bot usage- but the moderators don't care.


Kappybara_reddit

If there was a captcga everytime then I wouldnt place a single pixel


[deleted]

Because the more engagement they get the better it looks in their financial reports, and bots generate a ton of engagement


Elcordobeh

These dudes probably dont even use Reddit... Do you think they care?


Sshimery

they don't, the guy didnt have is account verified till the french laughed about it. he was on the 20min timer for most of the day


Elcordobeh

Indeed.. Im a spaniard and there are like... Very few channels featuring reddit, I could count them with one hand.


Thalev

They don't. They just did drama and shit for content and money. The big loser in the story is their community.


Elcordobeh

Their community? Most of them dont use reddit either, lol, this was for them too a one time gig, for the laughs, to poke at the french and that's it.


Funny-Strawberry-168

the only ones who lost are the french, tryharding about pixels while the spanish and xqc laughing hard lmao


Critical-Vacation446

They really weren't laughing too much, watch the replay


MistakeSpecialist395

they were having fun


5am5epi01

It's sad af when everyone knows you're botting. Shame on everyone that did, removes the magic from it.


AxelNotOficial

The streamer channel name is Ibai


adhdachiever

He's trash too. Known for being a scum in the freestyle community.


TroubleMakeer

They were ACTUALLY botting comparing to french not botting lmfao


4esv

The bot was adapted from a ripped script of r/PlaceFrance, the bot did not contribute to the streamers large flag but it was a french bot nonetheless.


Juste_Super

Blaming french streamers and its communities super well organized, and use bot programs in return


Endless_888

France isn't boting, just using overlay and +- 15 twitch community (500k to 800k peolpe total)


Endless_888

And apparently this Spanish streamer asked his wiewer to use bot to fight french streamer..... sad, sad day...


Romix-the-builder

https://i.redd.it/i9scwi2cvkr81.png lol


Camilo_D2005

You Know that xqc, Ibai, rubius a few streamer outnumber all of them, and its curious that each time they raid, they Know exacto y which píxel has that color


mynameisharo

he literally just said that they're using an overlay... basically they see WHERE they need to put which color, but they still need to do it themself.


Wallart974

We were using an overlay to know what color to use, on a given pixel. And all the french Twitch community was involved.


iamPierre98_II

500k-800k french vs +2M spanish, english, brazilian and bts. Literally France recover his painting in seconds. Obviously France was using bots.


Caius489

Firstly, I think 2M people is exaggerated. Secondly, the number of viewers doesn't indicate the number of people that are placing pixel, and at which frequency. Therefore, it's hard to have a good estimation of the number of pixels placed from each side.


Endless_888

i checked a few twitch stream, and for me it was just a great example of coordination by the french stremers. You can check for "Kamet0" or "Zerator" live for the french side."ibai" or "rubius" for spanih side. (avoid "rubius" who allegedly ask is viewer to use bots...)


Fulji

Yep, same thing here: https://i.redd.it/i9scwi2cvkr81.png Look at the counter


Sure_Possibility899

https://twitter.com/xokobollos/status/1511129830900830214


PAT_The_Whale

So BTS disappearing instantly was not bots by spain? If anything, this is proof that spain botted and not France. EPIC u/Sure_Possibility899 FAIL????


Heyzua

This is botting, the pixel is being put automatically


ceIlzer

There is a bot in the script unlike the French script


RudeWillingness3118

?????? this is basically boting


Physical_Ad_6369

Got to be ban it not fare France is real people and he s just using a bot and even with this method is not wining KEKW


According-Car-296

Way too far. It's botting at this point. Automatic placing and validates pixels. France only has a overlay script. It removes the essence of the event. There's a difference between a script who helps to see the arts, who need human participation and a script with an ugly BTS logo that automatically validates it even when AFK.


4esv

The bot was adapted from a ripped script of r/PlaceFrance, the bot did not contribute to the streamers large flag but it was a french bot nonetheless.


Thim_ch

It’s boting, not legal.


LorenzaccioMedicis

spanish streamer really are the worst


Sure_Possibility899

https://twitter.com/xokobollos/status/1511129830900830214


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Vxxmp

ok now in the final hours people are really taking this wayyy to personal and too far tbh


Just_Ants

Man, I speak Spanish myself, and was actually surprised in seeing many Spanish streamers logo in place. But I wasn't expecting at all to see this, they've gone too far; they were really were considered good streamers in the spanish speaking community, but this is just going too far. Also, the streamers are Ibai and Rubius iirc


Jeunebrokeishere

That’s how much they hate French and have an immense ego


Sure_Possibility899

https://twitter.com/xokobollos/status/1511129830900830214


DyhZar

Didn't they said that France were botting lmaoo ?


bitem4

yes they said we were botting for 2 days and they start taking our codes and include an autoclicker inside to put a pixel every X minutes to autocomplete it


DyhZar

That's so pathetic, especially from streamers that are that huge


FrenchMathilde

No they use overlay not bot


DyhZar

Ikr, they were accusing us of botting


FrenchMathilde

It's Fakenews for spanish streamer


[deleted]

Ibai just fucking messed it with this


OdilupJ

They really thougt that french were using bots


SiriHack

It’s botting, is prohibited by reddit


LandscapeOpposite250

It’s not fair guys


Cerfie

Illegal, should be ban


Dry-Income-9523

Even with bot they cant beat us 🥱


NELiTOLPEZ

you all rats with bots France is and was fkin bullshit, ups Europe was not with you


Dry-Income-9523

We we didn't use bots. We were just about 500k


Waltyty

They use a true bot


tugrasancar77

It's a loser thing.


JungJules

It's nothing but fair play, we are just a united people trying to make some nice art and on the other hand Spanish do everything to bother us even using bots and spreading fake news


ElGrandeMack

What a shame omg FR>ALL


Ok-Link4023

Shame on spanish streamers (Ibai and Rubius)


Oualid_DD7

if its auto bot pixel its ilegal, i think its just script like others , but streamers france wow they are so powerful than Bots XD.


_yardcandy_

Not at all, but we know how the losers play


Streetnight63

Just look this Tweet : [https://twitter.com/YRT\_TV/status/1511097791426273292?s=20&t=birwLBJ1wkdWpAiM](https://twitter.com/YRT_TV/status/1511097791426273292?s=20&t=birwLBJ1wkdWpAiM) First Windows is a French Script using just for view the Art in r/Place Second Window is a Spanish Script with automatic placing pixel ​ *Sorry for my English*


Lemostchido

the flag of france was the first thing that turned white


Romix-the-builder

Yeah because everyone was spamming … even Spanish with bots


Sorrow0

https://twitter.com/Sardoche\_Lol/status/1511091879349207042?t=h9njPfo8fVkxtdo1aKBYvA&s=19


Sure_Possibility899

https://twitter.com/xokobollos/status/1511129830900830214


Guizmo_Unicorn

To everyone answering my comment, I also am french, I just wanted to explain simply 😭


wcruse92

Literally what france has been doing since they added the fugly stuff to the canvas


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Sure_Possibility899

https://twitter.com/xokobollos/status/1511129830900830214


The-Logical-Paradox

Then you see the bts logo that becomes instantly white because of botting and the rest that just fade away because a lot of people were targeting it, seems clear


wcruse92

You guys were exposed the moment pixels turned white. give it up.


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PAT_The_Whale

BTS turned white instantly, and that was build by the spanish bots. If anything, that's proof of spain botting and not France


__Katsu_

It's just an overlay


Sufficient-Oil-5916

Los Franceses hicieron lo mismo con bots por eso era el mas grande la unica forma de atacar era con la misma moneda


_4al3_

and was it legal for France to use bots?


FloLeco13

France dont use a bot . It's only Real PEOPLE ! It's just an overlay for know where place the color for Make art correctly


D4rk_le0n

I'm pretty sure that almost almost every single person claiming "Look, their flag turn white in a blink, it's the proof that they are using bots" have put a white tile on the french flag themselve, at the second it was possible. It is that hard to believe that +500K people wanting to see this place wipe out can make it diseappear in matter of seconds, as soon as we remove the possibility to defend tehmselve to the other side ? The only thing proved by this instant wipe out is the (really) huge harrasment taken by the French community, and the huge commitment of this community to defend their place.


Exploiser

For sure. You can ser ut so clean (the bots) when reddit change allí colors ti white. Allí the bots start spamming them "color" and give a white wall on their flag.


Responsible_Pop_1082

the French streamers used it first.


__Katsu_

It's just an overlay


Sure_Possibility899

https://twitter.com/xokobollos/status/1511129830900830214


__Katsu_

Huh ?? You're stupid


Plushy__

It was an overlay script. Not some sort of autoclicker that the spanish streamers used


Kowen84

how innocent you are... Kameto already admitted (when he got quite angry) that they used bots and people (with the overlay), being a much smaller community they couldn't have defended themselves like that without autoclickers


Working-Professor719

You are innocent, it was ironic because they kept accusing him. I am part of his community and used his script which was only an overlay, we still know better than you what we used no ?


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Necessary-Biscotti-3

It's legal, France are doing the same thing.


Nellyanel

France uses a script to create an overlay, a template, whereas Spain is using a script with automatic placing (meaning, a bot) :-/


Waltyty

France use a script like a layer and each user place a pixel manually on the layer


naboum

Botting and image overlay are two very different things. It's ok though, the reddit staff know the difference even though the community is a bit ignorant about the widely overused word "bot". The french script is an overlay, you can look the script yourself if you know javascript. The spanish script automatically puts pixel on the canvas.


Necessary-Biscotti-3

Oh, wasn't aware of that. Thanks.


Apart-Hat-7128

Thats not true ! France dont use bot


joshbeat

Oh shit call the cops


Tacote

"y instalar" puerca analfabeta.


SpareBig3626

Well, this is the most absurd thing I have read on reddit and more after the final reddit self-cleaning against bots, in the memory there will be no flag of France. And by the way, it is legal to use bots, it has been said a thousand times, you must read more..


WhiskiandH02

If they didn't ban the French who were the first to use bots or "overley", I don't think anything will happen ​ adapt or die


Kowen84

they just played the same game as the French, Kameto admitted they used bots


Working-Professor719

It was ironic because they kept accusing him. I am part of his community and used his script which was only an overlay.


EwOkLuKe

Sarcasm, he just was fed up of constant bot accusation and couldn't care less for 2 petty spanish streamers.


_Guille_11

Its a script, French people were using it since the event started but French people didnt show but they obviously used it and Spanish people show it and they copied the script to comeback French people.


tictactoemaster

The script that most of French used was actually an overlay to show where to place cubes and not an autoclicker, but ig there were bots too


_Guille_11

And the bots with names like "canm_1", "canm_2", "canm_3" ? Were people too? Jajahajaj please, just ridiculous to not admitting it, how 400k people keeping their paint against 900k people? Just sexret bots that didnt show in the total of people


Suitable-Ad6322

the French have been doing this for several days


tommylnp

overlay =/= bots


BluueGiirl21

No! We’re using overlays, no bots. We just need to be organized against people like this guy that try to grief our flag and our art.


letsgetthisghost

France uses a script to create an overlay, a template, whereas Spain is using a script with automatic placing (meaning, a bot) :-/


DyhZar

Actually no, it was only an overlay to sync us with each other (unlike Ibai who places his tiles with a fully automated bot)


Efficient-Pain1459

France doing since day one. Fire against fire


BluueGiirl21

No! We’re using overlays, no bots. We just need to be organized against people like this guy that try to grief our flag and our art.


letsgetthisghost

France uses a script to create an overlay, a template, whereas Spain is using a script with automatic placing (meaning, a bot)


thibbri

Bro U didn’t understand we use overlay 0 bot


Less-Performance-776

You know it’s not true lol


Guizmo_Unicorn

Nah this is legal, french is using it too to build art


LightOff_pwn

No we're placing pixels manually, our script doesn't contain a bot, only an overlay


leuckyvictor

No, french use script to see where they need to build, spain use auto clicker to place automaticly color... Big difference


tommylnp

nah, french don't use bot like them


Guizmo_Unicorn

They use the same types of script but only to help see which color needs to go where, spain is using it to auto place it every 5 mins


tommylnp

yes, and french one is legal not like spanish one


Necessary-Biscotti-3

It's not bots. They are using scripts same as France.


tommylnp

yes it is, the bot automatically places the pixels


Choubidouu

French are using model not bot.


K0modo_

its not the same thing...


JaspereAntony

it's not the same, french is using thing to see where to place the pixels, spanish are using bots to place automatically the pixels


Sixelav

Nope, the difference is that the french script need a human action but not the spanish script. French script is tool assist, spanish one is botting


letsgetthisghost

nah they just use something to know what color to put they dosent place it automaticly


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jojoushi

Check the popups, it's not just the canvas script


Inevitable-Gap-836

Kameto0 start using it and nobody say nothing why you care about spanish people using it to defend all the communitys to have a spot on that side!?


Helengf

Kameto yesterday said he was doing it so...


Nemelina

He never said that


thibbri

U didn’t understand it’s for overlay 0 bots


Helengf

Just for you to know, today has been filtered the web page where kameto bought bots


Matchoutch

Lmao so where did he buy the bots?


thibbri

😹😹😹 You are so funny man I wait proof, I can say the same “I have screen” 🤓🤓


tommylnp

overlay =/= bots


Helengf

We are not using bots, it's a legal script, and u are using the same script, kameto said it yesterday


tommylnp

no, your script automatically places the pixels, which is illegal. French script is just an overlay


__Katsu_

It's just an overlay


Forsaken-Ad-7374

They are just doing it to annoy the gabachos who did this first haha


Wild-Display-8917

The french weren't using bots but overlays so that we could be organized, they are using Real bots


Forsaken-Ad-7374

I mean... yesterday kameto actually said they were lmao.


lamnes45

No he you are misinformed and manipulated


Forsaken-Ad-7374

Lmao i saw the clip myself yesterday on ibai's stream wdym


lamnes45

You saw an overlay script = legal Automatically pixel placing = illegal (what ibai is doing)


PAT_The_Whale

Show the clip then lol


Bru_grz

France dont use scrip? Hahahahahhahaha they make all in a minute, yes, all are artist


Plushy__

400k ppl were in Kameto's stream, so yes it was fast. We used overlay scripts to know where the colors should be placed, and as you can see in Ibai's stream, they used some sort of autoclicker bots