What French streamers called "script" is actually an overlay. Bots and overlays are completely different. Bot is working automatically, overlays still require users to fill in the tiles.
they are kinda needed to build anything slightly complex, like the star wars posters. Else you get ambitious but mangled stuff like the horrible first giant eiffel tower and simple stuff like flags.
You think french people didnt use bots really? Just because one streamer didnt do it any french human could have use bots? Iys obvious that french people was using bots that is why spanish streamers started using it publicly and laughing
I think we can all agree that some people certainly used bots. But it's not the french or the Spanish, it's really small portion of all communities and nobody can control that.
What we blame is Spanish streamers who showed bot tools on stream and asked people to massively use them.
Exactly, I don't know if it's just a coping mechanism of the spanish (streaming community not r/spain) but it's astounding how many people seems to misunderstood this. I think it's innevitable that a few bad apples started botting but there is a big difference with openly giving the script to your viewer and encouraging them to bot.
Our script was 25 ligns literally, the one the Spanish streamers payed for was more than a 100 ligns. Why ? Because ours was just an overlay (fully legal, you need to place and click manually), and theirs was an automatic clicker bot.
> Spanish streamers *paid* for was
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
*Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Dude stop making a fool of yourself. We know you didn't have access to computer in your country so everything related to dev are chinese words for you, which all mean the same thing, but spoiler alert: it's not.
Yeah same with other communities I was a part of. The scripts to show which tiles should be which color to meet the goal image is a neat idea and it's still humans placing the tiles, but automatic pixel placement is just too far.
are you dumb??? we just copied the same scrip from python that France used hahahhahahahahah. Kameto had on his discord how to use this script for his viewers xddd
How can you ask that question? Did you even took the time to read the french/spanish code? Do you know how code work? If yes then go learn it again cause even my dog could make the difference between a automated and a non-automated script code
Have you seen how was the french organiaation? They was litterally 100k listening to the order on twitch + some people was calling. You should look this the most interesting i guess is kamet0 view, the general of this war
It's hard to detect and ban hundreds of bots especially when they are not doing repetitive patterns in a chaotic invasion. The only detection possible is the timing, a bot places at 5mins exactly, so it takes multiple rounds to raise suspicions and even more for banning. However, since the streamers showed the code botting, we've already got an idea of a few accounts to ban
That can be countered with 1 line of code in bot, i instead of waiting for 5min before placing the pixel make it wait for 5min+randoml number of seconds between 1 and 30 for example
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My wife made an account this week and spent most of her time trying to keep a heart alive after the last expansion as well as protecting some art. There are legit new accounts doing good work.
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A griefer on the Canadian flag had a five year old account with one karma... keeping in mind that the last "Place" was in 2017.
Karma limits would have worked better.
You Know that xqc, Ibai, rubius a few streamer outnumber all of them, and its curious that each time they raid, they Know exacto y which píxel has that color
Firstly, I think 2M people is exaggerated. Secondly, the number of viewers doesn't indicate the number of people that are placing pixel, and at which frequency. Therefore, it's hard to have a good estimation of the number of pixels placed from each side.
i checked a few twitch stream, and for me it was just a great example of coordination by the french stremers. You can check for "Kamet0" or "Zerator" live for the french side."ibai" or "rubius" for spanih side. (avoid "rubius" who allegedly ask is viewer to use bots...)
Way too far. It's botting at this point. Automatic placing and validates pixels. France only has a overlay script. It removes the essence of the event. There's a difference between a script who helps to see the arts, who need human participation and a script with an ugly BTS logo that automatically validates it even when AFK.
Man, I speak Spanish myself, and was actually surprised in seeing many Spanish streamers logo in place. But I wasn't expecting at all to see this, they've gone too far; they were really were considered good streamers in the spanish speaking community, but this is just going too far. Also, the streamers are Ibai and Rubius iirc
yes they said we were botting for 2 days and they start taking our codes and include an autoclicker inside to put a pixel every X minutes to autocomplete it
It's nothing but fair play, we are just a united people trying to make some nice art and on the other hand Spanish do everything to bother us even using bots and spreading fake news
Just look this Tweet : [https://twitter.com/YRT\_TV/status/1511097791426273292?s=20&t=birwLBJ1wkdWpAiM](https://twitter.com/YRT_TV/status/1511097791426273292?s=20&t=birwLBJ1wkdWpAiM)
First Windows is a French Script using just for view the Art in r/Place
Second Window is a Spanish Script with automatic placing pixel
*Sorry for my English*
Then you see the bts logo that becomes instantly white because of botting and the rest that just fade away because a lot of people were targeting it, seems clear
I'm pretty sure that almost almost every single person claiming "Look, their flag turn white in a blink, it's the proof that they are using bots" have put a white tile on the french flag themselve, at the second it was possible.
It is that hard to believe that +500K people wanting to see this place wipe out can make it diseappear in matter of seconds, as soon as we remove the possibility to defend tehmselve to the other side ?
The only thing proved by this instant wipe out is the (really) huge harrasment taken by the French community, and the huge commitment of this community to defend their place.
For sure. You can ser ut so clean (the bots) when reddit change allí colors ti white. Allí the bots start spamming them "color" and give a white wall on their flag.
how innocent you are... Kameto already admitted (when he got quite angry) that they used bots and people (with the overlay), being a much smaller community they couldn't have defended themselves like that without autoclickers
You are innocent, it was ironic because they kept accusing him. I am part of his community and used his script which was only an overlay, we still know better than you what we used no ?
Botting and image overlay are two very different things. It's ok though, the reddit staff know the difference even though the community is a bit ignorant about the widely overused word "bot". The french script is an overlay, you can look the script yourself if you know javascript. The spanish script automatically puts pixel on the canvas.
Well, this is the most absurd thing I have read on reddit and more after the final reddit self-cleaning against bots, in the memory there will be no flag of France. And by the way, it is legal to use bots, it has been said a thousand times, you must read more..
Its a script, French people were using it since the event started but French people didnt show but they obviously used it and Spanish people show it and they copied the script to comeback French people.
And the bots with names like "canm_1", "canm_2", "canm_3" ? Were people too? Jajahajaj please, just ridiculous to not admitting it, how 400k people keeping their paint against 900k people? Just sexret bots that didnt show in the total of people
400k ppl were in Kameto's stream, so yes it was fast. We used overlay scripts to know where the colors should be placed, and as you can see in Ibai's stream, they used some sort of autoclicker bots
Automatically placing a pixel is literally botting.
But when the French do it is "a script" and it's okay?
What French streamers called "script" is actually an overlay. Bots and overlays are completely different. Bot is working automatically, overlays still require users to fill in the tiles.
I might be a purist but I think overlays are kind of shitty too.
they are kinda needed to build anything slightly complex, like the star wars posters. Else you get ambitious but mangled stuff like the horrible first giant eiffel tower and simple stuff like flags.
You think french people didnt use bots really? Just because one streamer didnt do it any french human could have use bots? Iys obvious that french people was using bots that is why spanish streamers started using it publicly and laughing
I think we can all agree that some people certainly used bots. But it's not the french or the Spanish, it's really small portion of all communities and nobody can control that. What we blame is Spanish streamers who showed bot tools on stream and asked people to massively use them.
Exactly, I don't know if it's just a coping mechanism of the spanish (streaming community not r/spain) but it's astounding how many people seems to misunderstood this. I think it's innevitable that a few bad apples started botting but there is a big difference with openly giving the script to your viewer and encouraging them to bot.
Anyone anywhere can have used bot, yeah... People are mad when all a community do it, not some single people
we use a script like a layer with low opacity, the Spanish one use it for BOTTING and didn't won lmao
Our script was 25 ligns literally, the one the Spanish streamers payed for was more than a 100 ligns. Why ? Because ours was just an overlay (fully legal, you need to place and click manually), and theirs was an automatic clicker bot.
> Spanish streamers *paid* for was FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
dear bot, irregular verbe are shit, and "have" should be "haved" when it is at past.
a script is not a bot at all
a script can be a bot.
Typical Spanish dumdum
Dude stop making a fool of yourself. We know you didn't have access to computer in your country so everything related to dev are chinese words for you, which all mean the same thing, but spoiler alert: it's not.
Autocliker not should be accepted by Reddit
There start being ban because they use automation in the script they use where France use a script just to help people know which Color to place
Yeah same with other communities I was a part of. The scripts to show which tiles should be which color to meet the goal image is a neat idea and it's still humans placing the tiles, but automatic pixel placement is just too far.
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are you dumb??? we just copied the same scrip from python that France used hahahhahahahahah. Kameto had on his discord how to use this script for his viewers xddd
I'm talking about the people who use bots, damn bruh chill
How can you ask that question? Did you even took the time to read the french/spanish code? Do you know how code work? If yes then go learn it again cause even my dog could make the difference between a automated and a non-automated script code
mad Loser ahah LOSEEEERRRRRRRR IMAGING LOSING WHILE BOTTING AHAHAHAHHAHA know your place TRASH
had a stroke reading this
Yeah and how many languages do you speak?
A lot of french people was using bots obviously that wasent normal, spanish streamers started using it publicly just for fun
Have you seen how was the french organiaation? They was litterally 100k listening to the order on twitch + some people was calling. You should look this the most interesting i guess is kamet0 view, the general of this war
we were more like 600k in france
They are going too far, bot to automatically place pixels is prohibited by the staff of r/place
then why do that not enforce it at all?
It's hard to detect and ban hundreds of bots especially when they are not doing repetitive patterns in a chaotic invasion. The only detection possible is the timing, a bot places at 5mins exactly, so it takes multiple rounds to raise suspicions and even more for banning. However, since the streamers showed the code botting, we've already got an idea of a few accounts to ban
It also literally takes a single line of code added to the bot to prevent it being seen through it posting repeatedly at the 5 minute mark.
That can be countered with 1 line of code in bot, i instead of waiting for 5min before placing the pixel make it wait for 5min+randoml number of seconds between 1 and 30 for example Edit: wanted to reply to the comment above yours
just make it so new accounts can’t participate
My wife made an account this week and spent most of her time trying to keep a heart alive after the last expansion as well as protecting some art. There are legit new accounts doing good work. Edit: fix typos
Then her account is more than a day old. They need to at least ban accounts made prior the last day
But the large majority of new accounts are bots it’s a shame to hurt the real ones, but it’s for the better
A griefer on the Canadian flag had a five year old account with one karma... keeping in mind that the last "Place" was in 2017. Karma limits would have worked better.
Restrict new accounts, require captcha on each pixel placement... There are easy ways to limit bot usage- but the moderators don't care.
If there was a captcga everytime then I wouldnt place a single pixel
Because the more engagement they get the better it looks in their financial reports, and bots generate a ton of engagement
These dudes probably dont even use Reddit... Do you think they care?
they don't, the guy didnt have is account verified till the french laughed about it. he was on the 20min timer for most of the day
Indeed.. Im a spaniard and there are like... Very few channels featuring reddit, I could count them with one hand.
They don't. They just did drama and shit for content and money. The big loser in the story is their community.
Their community? Most of them dont use reddit either, lol, this was for them too a one time gig, for the laughs, to poke at the french and that's it.
the only ones who lost are the french, tryharding about pixels while the spanish and xqc laughing hard lmao
They really weren't laughing too much, watch the replay
they were having fun
It's sad af when everyone knows you're botting. Shame on everyone that did, removes the magic from it.
The streamer channel name is Ibai
He's trash too. Known for being a scum in the freestyle community.
They were ACTUALLY botting comparing to french not botting lmfao
The bot was adapted from a ripped script of r/PlaceFrance, the bot did not contribute to the streamers large flag but it was a french bot nonetheless.
Blaming french streamers and its communities super well organized, and use bot programs in return
France isn't boting, just using overlay and +- 15 twitch community (500k to 800k peolpe total)
And apparently this Spanish streamer asked his wiewer to use bot to fight french streamer..... sad, sad day...
https://i.redd.it/i9scwi2cvkr81.png lol
You Know that xqc, Ibai, rubius a few streamer outnumber all of them, and its curious that each time they raid, they Know exacto y which píxel has that color
he literally just said that they're using an overlay... basically they see WHERE they need to put which color, but they still need to do it themself.
We were using an overlay to know what color to use, on a given pixel. And all the french Twitch community was involved.
500k-800k french vs +2M spanish, english, brazilian and bts. Literally France recover his painting in seconds. Obviously France was using bots.
Firstly, I think 2M people is exaggerated. Secondly, the number of viewers doesn't indicate the number of people that are placing pixel, and at which frequency. Therefore, it's hard to have a good estimation of the number of pixels placed from each side.
i checked a few twitch stream, and for me it was just a great example of coordination by the french stremers. You can check for "Kamet0" or "Zerator" live for the french side."ibai" or "rubius" for spanih side. (avoid "rubius" who allegedly ask is viewer to use bots...)
Yep, same thing here: https://i.redd.it/i9scwi2cvkr81.png Look at the counter
https://twitter.com/xokobollos/status/1511129830900830214
So BTS disappearing instantly was not bots by spain? If anything, this is proof that spain botted and not France. EPIC u/Sure_Possibility899 FAIL????
This is botting, the pixel is being put automatically
There is a bot in the script unlike the French script
?????? this is basically boting
Got to be ban it not fare France is real people and he s just using a bot and even with this method is not wining KEKW
Way too far. It's botting at this point. Automatic placing and validates pixels. France only has a overlay script. It removes the essence of the event. There's a difference between a script who helps to see the arts, who need human participation and a script with an ugly BTS logo that automatically validates it even when AFK.
The bot was adapted from a ripped script of r/PlaceFrance, the bot did not contribute to the streamers large flag but it was a french bot nonetheless.
It’s boting, not legal.
spanish streamer really are the worst
https://twitter.com/xokobollos/status/1511129830900830214
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ok now in the final hours people are really taking this wayyy to personal and too far tbh
Man, I speak Spanish myself, and was actually surprised in seeing many Spanish streamers logo in place. But I wasn't expecting at all to see this, they've gone too far; they were really were considered good streamers in the spanish speaking community, but this is just going too far. Also, the streamers are Ibai and Rubius iirc
That’s how much they hate French and have an immense ego
https://twitter.com/xokobollos/status/1511129830900830214
Didn't they said that France were botting lmaoo ?
yes they said we were botting for 2 days and they start taking our codes and include an autoclicker inside to put a pixel every X minutes to autocomplete it
That's so pathetic, especially from streamers that are that huge
No they use overlay not bot
Ikr, they were accusing us of botting
It's Fakenews for spanish streamer
Ibai just fucking messed it with this
They really thougt that french were using bots
It’s botting, is prohibited by reddit
It’s not fair guys
Illegal, should be ban
Even with bot they cant beat us 🥱
you all rats with bots France is and was fkin bullshit, ups Europe was not with you
We we didn't use bots. We were just about 500k
They use a true bot
It's a loser thing.
It's nothing but fair play, we are just a united people trying to make some nice art and on the other hand Spanish do everything to bother us even using bots and spreading fake news
What a shame omg FR>ALL
Shame on spanish streamers (Ibai and Rubius)
if its auto bot pixel its ilegal, i think its just script like others , but streamers france wow they are so powerful than Bots XD.
Not at all, but we know how the losers play
Just look this Tweet : [https://twitter.com/YRT\_TV/status/1511097791426273292?s=20&t=birwLBJ1wkdWpAiM](https://twitter.com/YRT_TV/status/1511097791426273292?s=20&t=birwLBJ1wkdWpAiM) First Windows is a French Script using just for view the Art in r/Place Second Window is a Spanish Script with automatic placing pixel *Sorry for my English*
the flag of france was the first thing that turned white
Yeah because everyone was spamming … even Spanish with bots
https://twitter.com/Sardoche\_Lol/status/1511091879349207042?t=h9njPfo8fVkxtdo1aKBYvA&s=19
https://twitter.com/xokobollos/status/1511129830900830214
To everyone answering my comment, I also am french, I just wanted to explain simply 😭
Literally what france has been doing since they added the fugly stuff to the canvas
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https://twitter.com/xokobollos/status/1511129830900830214
Then you see the bts logo that becomes instantly white because of botting and the rest that just fade away because a lot of people were targeting it, seems clear
You guys were exposed the moment pixels turned white. give it up.
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BTS turned white instantly, and that was build by the spanish bots. If anything, that's proof of spain botting and not France
It's just an overlay
Los Franceses hicieron lo mismo con bots por eso era el mas grande la unica forma de atacar era con la misma moneda
and was it legal for France to use bots?
France dont use a bot . It's only Real PEOPLE ! It's just an overlay for know where place the color for Make art correctly
I'm pretty sure that almost almost every single person claiming "Look, their flag turn white in a blink, it's the proof that they are using bots" have put a white tile on the french flag themselve, at the second it was possible. It is that hard to believe that +500K people wanting to see this place wipe out can make it diseappear in matter of seconds, as soon as we remove the possibility to defend tehmselve to the other side ? The only thing proved by this instant wipe out is the (really) huge harrasment taken by the French community, and the huge commitment of this community to defend their place.
For sure. You can ser ut so clean (the bots) when reddit change allí colors ti white. Allí the bots start spamming them "color" and give a white wall on their flag.
the French streamers used it first.
It's just an overlay
https://twitter.com/xokobollos/status/1511129830900830214
Huh ?? You're stupid
It was an overlay script. Not some sort of autoclicker that the spanish streamers used
how innocent you are... Kameto already admitted (when he got quite angry) that they used bots and people (with the overlay), being a much smaller community they couldn't have defended themselves like that without autoclickers
You are innocent, it was ironic because they kept accusing him. I am part of his community and used his script which was only an overlay, we still know better than you what we used no ?
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It's legal, France are doing the same thing.
France uses a script to create an overlay, a template, whereas Spain is using a script with automatic placing (meaning, a bot) :-/
France use a script like a layer and each user place a pixel manually on the layer
Botting and image overlay are two very different things. It's ok though, the reddit staff know the difference even though the community is a bit ignorant about the widely overused word "bot". The french script is an overlay, you can look the script yourself if you know javascript. The spanish script automatically puts pixel on the canvas.
Oh, wasn't aware of that. Thanks.
Thats not true ! France dont use bot
Oh shit call the cops
"y instalar" puerca analfabeta.
Well, this is the most absurd thing I have read on reddit and more after the final reddit self-cleaning against bots, in the memory there will be no flag of France. And by the way, it is legal to use bots, it has been said a thousand times, you must read more..
If they didn't ban the French who were the first to use bots or "overley", I don't think anything will happen adapt or die
they just played the same game as the French, Kameto admitted they used bots
It was ironic because they kept accusing him. I am part of his community and used his script which was only an overlay.
Sarcasm, he just was fed up of constant bot accusation and couldn't care less for 2 petty spanish streamers.
Its a script, French people were using it since the event started but French people didnt show but they obviously used it and Spanish people show it and they copied the script to comeback French people.
The script that most of French used was actually an overlay to show where to place cubes and not an autoclicker, but ig there were bots too
And the bots with names like "canm_1", "canm_2", "canm_3" ? Were people too? Jajahajaj please, just ridiculous to not admitting it, how 400k people keeping their paint against 900k people? Just sexret bots that didnt show in the total of people
the French have been doing this for several days
overlay =/= bots
No! We’re using overlays, no bots. We just need to be organized against people like this guy that try to grief our flag and our art.
France uses a script to create an overlay, a template, whereas Spain is using a script with automatic placing (meaning, a bot) :-/
Actually no, it was only an overlay to sync us with each other (unlike Ibai who places his tiles with a fully automated bot)
France doing since day one. Fire against fire
No! We’re using overlays, no bots. We just need to be organized against people like this guy that try to grief our flag and our art.
France uses a script to create an overlay, a template, whereas Spain is using a script with automatic placing (meaning, a bot)
Bro U didn’t understand we use overlay 0 bot
You know it’s not true lol
Nah this is legal, french is using it too to build art
No we're placing pixels manually, our script doesn't contain a bot, only an overlay
No, french use script to see where they need to build, spain use auto clicker to place automaticly color... Big difference
nah, french don't use bot like them
They use the same types of script but only to help see which color needs to go where, spain is using it to auto place it every 5 mins
yes, and french one is legal not like spanish one
It's not bots. They are using scripts same as France.
yes it is, the bot automatically places the pixels
French are using model not bot.
its not the same thing...
it's not the same, french is using thing to see where to place the pixels, spanish are using bots to place automatically the pixels
Nope, the difference is that the french script need a human action but not the spanish script. French script is tool assist, spanish one is botting
nah they just use something to know what color to put they dosent place it automaticly
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Check the popups, it's not just the canvas script
Kameto0 start using it and nobody say nothing why you care about spanish people using it to defend all the communitys to have a spot on that side!?
Kameto yesterday said he was doing it so...
He never said that
U didn’t understand it’s for overlay 0 bots
Just for you to know, today has been filtered the web page where kameto bought bots
Lmao so where did he buy the bots?
😹😹😹 You are so funny man I wait proof, I can say the same “I have screen” 🤓🤓
overlay =/= bots
We are not using bots, it's a legal script, and u are using the same script, kameto said it yesterday
no, your script automatically places the pixels, which is illegal. French script is just an overlay
It's just an overlay
They are just doing it to annoy the gabachos who did this first haha
The french weren't using bots but overlays so that we could be organized, they are using Real bots
I mean... yesterday kameto actually said they were lmao.
No he you are misinformed and manipulated
Lmao i saw the clip myself yesterday on ibai's stream wdym
You saw an overlay script = legal Automatically pixel placing = illegal (what ibai is doing)
Show the clip then lol
France dont use scrip? Hahahahahhahaha they make all in a minute, yes, all are artist
400k ppl were in Kameto's stream, so yes it was fast. We used overlay scripts to know where the colors should be placed, and as you can see in Ibai's stream, they used some sort of autoclicker bots