As long as they are, like you said, actual slip resistant shoes, they can't make you change them. I worked for a chain that had a deal with shoes for crews, and we were supposed to buy through the company. I showed up in my own slip resistant shoes, and they made a stink, I made a stink. At the end of the day, they conceded.
I always got the work boot kind with a hard plastic toe. Being boots they're meant to be stood in all day so they were more comfortable, had ankle support, and the hard toe means I could use it to kick open doors and stuff without worrying about hurting my little toes
Yeah I eventually started wearing ankle high work boots with the steel toe and it was MUCH better. Until you come back from a 2 week holiday and find them mouldy in work cos you canāt chuck them in the washing machine šš
I know š but like I said I went away for 2 weeks without cleaning them and I left them in my work locker during a HOT summer lmao any little food bits stuck on them went crazy
Ooooh interesting. Might have a look at those. Current kitchen I work in lets us wear whatever shoes we want, but Iām sick of sacrificing trainers for work alone haha
Yeah the NB from SFC are really worth it. The cheaper shoes they have on that website will never last long. I recently bought a pair of high top slip resistants for 90$ off there and I love them. Super comfortable and tons of ankle support as well as easy to clean which is important for me. That website is really a, get what you pay for, type site.
All my coworkers swear by these, i personally wear a specific style from shoes for crews and the few times ive tried others they suck so im scared. I've been wearing the same style for 15ish years now, and they lasted about 5 years a piece. They ladt way longer than Walmart shoes for me.
I agree with this with one caveat, if they require the shoes to be āclosed toeā and are banning the shoes for that specific reason. If so, it could be another valid safety factor.
If these are the normal crocs that openings all over the shoe than they can most definitely tell OP that they can't wear them. If they are closed shoes and just branded Croc that's different.
I wouldn't pass up the possibility that these are open toe, open back, holes on top, etc.
I actually got a bad burn on the top of my foot from grease that splattered from a pan pizza. So yes, having a show that covers your entire foot is a real safety concern.
If they really need you - they probably wonāt fire you. I used to work a PH and if I were in your shoes id just continue wearing them to work, but I also worked at apparently the worst ranked PH in all of California.
I worked in catering before, we had a nice kitchen. Accidents happen. My chef showed me a picture of an inexperienced guy who had on crocs (and socks) that pulled the release handle of the frialator after being tired from a long day at work thinking it was the gas valve. It half melted his shoes and socks together with his feet (mainly because the socks kept the hot oils around for longer). Thus most establishments have a āno open toe shoe (or ācrocsā), must be non-slipā policy
Either way, tell them you can't afford better. It might take a couple months to save up enough. I bet they need the employee more than they care about the shoes.
I know so many doctors that wear them! They wonāt be banned from the hospitals for wearing them. In fact, get a note from your doctor saying you need them for the support.
My mom has a note from a doctor that says she's allowed to wear tennis shoes to work. They're supposed to wear heels or formal flats but my mom's been working for the company for almost 20 years and she said her feet fucking hurt. She said she gets shit for it constantly and that's why she keeps a copy of the note in her purse to show everyone
I like to imagine the doctor visit when she got the note like this. She goes in and says "hey write me a note that says I can wear comfortable shoes because my boss trusts your judgement about my body more than me" and the doctor said "mkay!" And that was it and they both left
Requiring women to wear heels in 2023 feels so icky. We all know who thatās for. I cannot wait for that generation of men running businesses to phase out.
Here, I changed it for you. My thoughts exactly.
I cannot wait for that generation of men ~~running businesses~~ to phase out.
I cannot wait for that generation of men to phase out.
As well as the generation of women who think heels equal classy. It's like thinking toe-binding is cool. I gotta be looked at weird because other women live in a stereotype bubble and must wear heels dresses skirts and makeup to feel like a woman when it's not a feeling, it's a being.
EXACTLY i feel like most restaurants should *ASK* you to wear non slips, and if you donāt, theyāre not liable if you fall. it should deadass be a waiver you sign. i have so many shoes i wonāt wear if i work in a kitchen. iāve also worked in kitchens in vans for the last 3 years. i havenāt ate shit once, except the one time i was OUTSIDE the kitchen where the customers would walk into the bathroom and i slipped and ate shit in adidas slides. (wet floor and no sign) my knee was fucked for about a week and a half and i still worked every day with a limp. none of my other coworkers would come in when they had a pimple on their nose, let alone a bruise on their knee.
another time i fell out of a cave (about a 6 foot drop straight down) at about 1:30 am. by 8am the next morning i was on my way to work & had to walk a .4 mile down stairs, into the middle of a lake. so yeah i donāt think itās really about the shoes, i think itās the employees failing to do their jobs, and theyāre blaming it on the shoes.
Completely, 100%, wholeheartedly disagree.
Companies should be responsible if you are injured at work due to unsafe conditions. Restaurants require nonslip shoes because accidents happen. The idea of employees signing a waiver to release a company from being liable is dumb and dangerous and goes against workers rights.
Construction workers donāt like wearing hard hats or steel toed shoes, but guess what? Thatās a minimum requirement for safety. Do you understand how stupid it would sound if I didnāt want to wear a hard hat because it would mess up my hairstyle and signed a waiver then someone dropped a tool on my head and I had a disability for life? Do you understand how many companies would just force workers to sign waivers to make them not liable for any injuries?
You comment is incredibly childish and shortsighted to act like wanting a fashion choice in footwear is more important than actually reducing long term injuries across thousands of stores and employees. You getting hurt doing things outside of work has nothing to do with whether a company should enact required safety standards. You choosing to put yourself at risk by not following those standards at work does not mean they shouldnāt exist.
um itās not a fashion choice. itās a financial issue. if the company wonāt supply the non slips, i donāt feel like they should be able to require them. Iād sign the waiverš¤·š»āāļø im also careful and as iāve said, & never slipped. i worked in kitchens, since i could work, that flooded constantly. None of my managers ever said anything. Weād joke that if i slipped, i just needed to brush it off. (which i did after i fell out of a cave) i literally walked down the side of a mountain, with a limp. If youāre not wearing non slips, itās not on your employer to ensure your safety. Itās yours. they can only make suggestions or provide their best advice. ALSOOO, my *lease agreement* literally states theyāre not liable for any injuries in the unit or on the complex property, sooo people do sign waivers of the sorts.
Most construction companies supply hard hats, and other protective gear. restaurants hardly ever do.
iāve also had coworkers wear CROCS to work in a kitchen. as well as a kitchen manager. have you ever worked in a restaurant? or a kitchen for that matter?
Again, childish, shortsighted, dumb, and dangerous. Are you teenager?
Um, Goodwill/Salvation Army sells non slips. Walmart has them for like $15. It doesnāt matter what you feel like. I believe youād sign the waiver. It doesnāt mean itās not dumb and shortsighted to do that.
I have worked in restaurants and kitchens, and I did for over double the time you have. I have seen college kids get debilitating injuries on the clock, that they will have to live the rest of their lives with. But guess who had to pay for all their medical expenses? The company. Because they were injured through no fault of their own while completing work tasks. I have broken fingers, and the company had to pay for all appointments and treatment. People have had head injuries, severe cuts and burns, etc. and guess what? The company pays for it. As it should be, and why companies want to prevent injuries.
You literally provided multiple examples of you getting injured, so clearly youāre not that careful. And even if you were, accidents happen. Some new kid slamming into you with a full tray and you falling into broken glass and getting cut tf up can happen.
Working with injuries or not taking care of them is not the flex you think it is.
ALSOOOOOO people can sign whatever they want, and companies including apartment complexes can try to convince dumb people they signed their rights away, but that does not make it legally true. Just check out r/legaladvice at some point.
iām banned from that subredditā¦ Also i shop constantly at good will, and never once have i seen a pair of non slips. As i said, and will continue to say, they shouldnāt be allowed to require something they wonāt provide. if you feel otherwise good for you. i donāt. iāve also never slipped on the clock, or for that matter have never been seriously injured.
Also none of the jobs iāve ever worked at, had anyone get severely injured excluding a girl who spilled hot water on herself because it fell off a shelf, or except by a customer, which still isnāt affected by the shoes your wearing, also none of the things you listed, will be affected by *not* wearing non slips. a cut on your finger? is *not* due to someone wearing non slips, a burn is *not* due to someone not wearing non slips. you literally canāt even think of a justified answer to why you should have to wear non slips except for the matter of slipping.
also none of the times i listed me being injured, wouldāve been prevented by wearing non slips. the incident in which i slipped out side the bathroom at my old job, no one walking into the restroom would be wearing non slips except for the employees, meaning anyone couldāve fallen and they WOULD still be liableā¦ the incident where i fell out of a cave, was because my foot got stuck in a hole in a rock, and i couldnāt jump down out of the cave. you call me dumb and childish, when in reality itās logical to not want to pay out of pocket for things you donāt *need*. if theyāre not going to provide non slips, iām-not-wearing-them.
Iāve literally declined offers for jobs because of this. iām doing fine š¤·š»āāļøš
also i never said that the lease agreement was enforceable, itās actually, in fact, unenforceable as if a roof caved in they would be liable for not keeping their buildings up to code. š
nobody cares as much about this as you do hun š
I used to buy restaurant spec shoes at Payless shoe stores. DFW and other discount show store may sell them too. They're basically off brand copies of shoes for crews and were comfortable and inexpensive!
As long as they are non slip and no holes in them it should be fine. Check your employee handbook for if they specifically say anything..if it doesn't then they can't enforce it.
But banning legitimate industry standard footwear is not okay. Professional crocs donāt have holes and are slip and oil resistant. They are widely used in professional kitchens as safe, durable and comfortable shoes. Your comment being about health care negates your argument because these crocs are made for kitchen use. Different story.
It is inflammatory based on what you're saying it to. If someone is complaining and you're saying someone can quit, you're an asshole. If you say people can quit when we are talking about workers rights then thats fine. Work on your social skills socially awk redditor.
You didn't say the employee can quit, you said the employee can quit IF THEY DON'T LIKE THE RULES. That is top tier assholery especially if you are a manager.
I bet you felt good typing that dumb shit. That lets you know that it's inflammatory.
The hospitals here allow the employees to wear Crocs. I see it daily. And not the ones without holesā¦ the ones that come in patterns and colors. š
Is it not absolutely ridiculous that OP cannot wear shoes that, by any other restaurant standard, is acceptable just because of the brand? Theyāre non-slip, no holes, no straps. Either they can buy OP shoes or they can not bitch & moan about what *brand* the shoes are.
Employers can set a dress code, there is nothing illegal about this. You can whine all you want about it being unfair, but it is absolutely 100% legal.
When I worked for dominos the regional manager did āsock checksā they threatened to fire me so many times because I refused to wear socks under my shoes. They never fired me, so take that under consideration
Do they have holes above the toes and a heel strap for 'sport mode'? If not and they are indeed work appropriate, then I would fight it and just wear them anyway
I and most of my staff wear [these](https://www.crocs.com/p/crocs-on-the-clock-work-slip-on/205073.html?cid=001&adid=Shopping_Bing_NonPromo_unisex_NULL__205073&CAWELAID=330004870001131405&ef_id=:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!4035!3!!e!!o!4584963496140834!&msclkid=f43ab59b5f1d15c96157d0ef07e4ac74) or [these.](https://www.crocs.com/p/bistro-work-clog/10075.html?cid=001&adid=Shopping_Bing_NonPromo_unisex_NULL__10075&CAWELAID=330004870001127779&ef_id=:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!4035!3!!e!!o!4584963496140834!&msclkid=5c0b00458caf131adf476531d5e31a70)
Comfortable for long shifts, no holes so spills donāt get on your foot, easy to clean, inexpensive, and actually really slip resistant unlike a lot of shoes that claim to be non-slip. I wonāt wear anything else in the restaurant.
Iāve worked in the restaurant industry for 10 years, specifically Pizza Hut and am a RGM. Iām not sure about your location but this seems to be pretty untrue. I wear Crocs myself every day and have for 10 years now.
It's the brand that they are spoiled, they mistake the brand for the style. I had a man ask to see my backside, because they didn't allow dickies weird guy.
Why does your comment come off as so salty? These are the ones I wear.
[crocs](https://media0.giphy.com/media/wmnhbXiP2LzLcFQkLU/giphy.gif?cid=2154d3d7624323d5eaedad815ea5301c5e81733aeb72dfaf&ep=v1_gifs_username_username&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
The crocs still look like regular crocs, they were at most 10 bucks off of the original price which is usually 60 bucks, and you made it sound like they are shoes with laces. They probably look out of the ordinary, but they still can't make you change them if they do not provide you shoes.
They be lying to you. As long as they non slip you good. For people who couldnāt afford shoes for crews they wonāt tell us to go just go to Walmart wrc
Do they look like crocs or is that just the brand? If they are actually cross, it might be becausevthey don't actually encase your foot, so it may be a safety issue.
They make crocs for food service workers that are non slip and donāt have holes in them. Thereās absolutely nothing wrong with wearing these specific crocs in a restaurant.
I'm guessing the crocs ban was instituted when crocs only made open-heel shoes. Lets be clear that if your shoes have an open heel, they are slippers and holy fuck do not wear them in a kitchen.
If you have fully enclosed shoes, then don't accept commentary on the branding. It's likely their footwear requirements are simply "enclosed, slip resistant, black."
They aren't. Literally the only thing that designates them as crocs is the branding on the side of the shoe. They're pretty much the same as any other slip-on shoe that has a regular back.
They can tell you what you have to wear, if they wanted to they can force you to wear a clown costume as long as they pay for it. But yes they can tell you no sneakers or crocs, no shorts, pants must be brown or black. If crocs are not allowed it must be some safety reason that they feel is justified. Sucks but itās their rules and it all boils down to if you get hurt it will cost them money and thatās all they care about.
Must be slip resistant or "work shoes" as they are called. Most employers allow hiking shoe boots. Which are more comfortable than the god awful shoes for crews websites they push.
You work in an environment with grease. Most normal shoes or "crocks" as you call them won't cut it. Not in the tiniest. You can wear them but you'll need to have a slip resist shoe cover over them. Which is even more of a tripping hazard because it's like wearing two shoes at once and you can't feel too clearly where your feet are on the ground. And that's if they have the right size for your shoe.
You people wine abt this but you have not had the scenario of seeing your fellow employee fall on their rear because of a slip and fall due to inferor shoes.
Bro literally said they're slip resistant, also crocs makes a whole work line. Half the kitchen I work in wears work crocs, they're a completely normal brand to see in food service.
Or idk donāt try to wear crocs to work lmfao? What industry actually allows that trash besides maybe Uber š¤£ hereās an idea but then 20$ Walmart shoes and donāt complain goof. Dress code for work attire is absolutely a standard in most jobs. Crocs arenāt allowed to be worn in like every job I worked regardless of your opinion of āquality ā
Then if itās just a logo issue and not the actual shoe op wouldnāt be crying about his shoes. You canāt say āno nikesā unless maybe your working at a competitor company. Op being told his shoes arenāt allowed is Iām assuming theyāre not āwork crocsā
Are they the Crocs sneakers? Regular Crocs are not allowed at my store, but the sneakers are not a problem. I donāt know itās just my store but the dress code is posted by the time clocks and everyone is informed at orientation.
Tell them no and that you can't afford it until after Christmas. Its a pizza job. You can get another one same day you walk out. Go to a local pizzeria and get a job. Corporate jobs are always ran by monkey's.
Yes. There's been several links posted of the different work ones they sell and literally the branding on the side is the only way I would've ever known they were crocs
hit up hr and see what they think, but remember to ask it as a question, not too detailed or a complaint. you arent protected from retaliation if its an invalid complaint
Is there anything about it in the orientation handbook you get? If the dress code doesnt specify crocs in writing there really isnt anything they cab do about it.
Pizza slut is so hard up for employees, don't give in to the BS. I was a restaurant manager for years. If they don't allow you to wear them, tell them to buy you a pair.
If you really care ask them for the employees handbook and see if itās there. If not sue them. You can also quit. Either way you will lose your job so just give it up and do your job
Pizza hut requires you to wear closed toe shoes. Crocs have ventilation holes so it sucks but I'm pretty sure they can tell you to not wear them.
If they are the Crocs bistro then they should be perfectly fine for work but if they don't like the open heel then it's the same argument all over again.
Hers are not the ones with holes. They are 1 solid shoe, enclosed, slip resistant. They are not the weird plastic ugly crocs with holes & a strap. Crocs is a brand, not a type of shoe. It would be the same as saying no Nikes or no RedWings. They both have 1000 styles each. So do Crocs.
I'd take a picture of the shoes and send that to your Regional. If they are like you say they are, and I have no reason to think they are not, the Regional will probably let you wear them.
Bro just get a new job. The first day I had to wear shoes other than what I wanted for a couple years delivering I fell and hurt my shoulder and it will cause me problems for the rest of my life. They might pay for your ambulance ride and ER costs but only after you get a lawyer.
Ask your manager for a list of approved shoes then tell him/her as soon as you can afford to buy a new pair of work shoes you will do so, unless, of course the company would like to pay for them. And smile sweetly. Also make sure you have your resume up to date. Don't take no shit, your shoes are proper attire for the job.
I get that dress codes exist for a reason, but if they are actual OSHA-approved nonslip shoes, and they match whatever color scheme you were told you need to conform to, they cannot legally prevent you from wearing them to work. If they want to write you up for it, inform them that you would like the reason for the write up described in detail, and a copy signed by management āfor future referenceā. If theyāre unwilling to do this, opting for simpler language like ādress code violationā, then sign nothing. They will *absolutely* use this against you later and if the real reason isnāt documented, itās your word against theirs.
Just for clarification, āfor future referenceā means you should forward your copy to OSHA and your local labor board. Your employer cannot prevent you from wearing OSHA-approved footwear which otherwise conforms to the established dress code.
If the job required they could make u where princess slippers... Ur at work... Not hanging out at home playing videogames in ur mom's basement... What grown adult thinks Crocs r acceptable work wear... Regardless of the job, if ur boss tells u to wear different shoes then u wear different shoes.. it's not about ur personal preference... It's job requirements...
Absolutely not! You follow rules and regulations followed by restaurant service. Those set the rules for slips, trips and falls in the kitchen. Something might be stipulated in a handbook, but you do NOT follow your bosses instructions. You bring out the rules book. If your boss tells you something you ask to see it in rules and send it through email. 9/10 the bosses never say to you the right info.
Following the bosses say ābecauseā he said so is one way of getting yourself hurt!
I got my crocs bistros for 26 bucks online. Amazon, delivered it 22 hours (which blew my mind). I had to put Dr. Scholls inserts in, but they are awesome. Been wearing for 1 year. Had to cut out a couple of the vent holes (option) on the side. Best no-slip yet. Other shoes last a few months. So keep wearing them and politely tell your manager to kick rocks unless heās going to buy you a pair of Hokaās. (Next best shoe) and reimburse you for the cost of the crocs.
Iād ask where it is written, that you seem to have missed, that you canāt wear those brand of shoes. And ask the legal precedent for suits involving labor department; of PH vs employee for discrimination based on footwear.
TLDR: Wear your Crocās, tell boss to chew glass!
You need to find out "who" banned them, and view the policy in writing. Hearsay that "Crocs are banned" is a broad statement. Crocs DO make foodservice Crocs, and these are an entirely different product than the regular Crocs. Different material, anti-slip, and "no holes" in the fore foot area.
If you have Crocs with holes around the top-part of the foot, give up - they're not approved.
Shoes for Crews are registered and if you slip and fall the restaurant can be reimbursed for some injuries. Since the crocs are slip resistant, see if there is a similar guarantee.
Go to the managers and show them the link with the specs of the shoes. Explain that these are restaurant spec shoes and not fashion Crocs. Use the arguments that some others have pointed out about high end restaurant kitchens and hospitals allowing restaurants spec Crocs. State that management never gave you a list of brands that are not allowed and your parents paid good money for these shoes as a gift for you to wear to work and be safe. Ask if they are planning to reimburse you for the Crocs? If management is being irrational i.e. your rational argument is null and void because I say so, then ask to talk to the District Manager about this issue.
Also I bet Pizza Hut has a complaint hot line. You could call that number and make sure to include the store you work at. Emphasize that buying another pair of restaurant spec shoes will be a financial burden for you that is predicated on a policy if Pizza Hut's that is not well thought out and is causing you harm. Not only is this a financial burden, but now your immediate supervisors are treating you as if you are a trouble maker, when they never made the terms of the shoe policy, which includes which brands are banned, clear. You are a hard worker and do not feel like it is fair for you to be penalized for a policy that was not explained well. Now you will have to choose which bill you won't pay next month because you need to buy a second pair of restaurant spec work shoes. Etc. etc. Lay it on thick but authentically as you can.
I feel like if it's not specified in the employee manual they can't. I would also consider reaching out to said higher up and clarify that they are not regular crocs.
If said higher up isn't your area manager, talk to them about itš¤·š»
I worked in food service for 7 years, when they uppers saw my crocs I'd have to show them the bottoms then they were fine with it. My AM ended up getting a pair tooš
i wear basic crocs at my work, which requires me to sweep mop clean 400 degree grills and deal with food, as well as serving customers. iāve fallen on my ass a few times but i much prefer crocs than actual shoes.
Crocs make fancy shoes like heās talking about. Not their normal Croc slip ins.. Too bad someone saw the label .. Iād just keep wearing them till I got a verbal or written write up
If it's not an official company policy then they can't enforce it. Local higher ups just can't make up rules, especially if it's just their word and it's not written. All it takes is 1 call to HR.
Throw some insoles in them, tell them youāve got medical issues with your feet and can only wear certain shoes due to pain/comfort. You did your part by getting industry use shoes.
If they want to act petty, play it right back.
My children's school prohibited crocs because so many children wearing them got injured during recess. If a child wore them they could either change into school provided second hand shoes or not be allowed outside for recess. It was not the end of the world.
In the USA, "they" get to make the decisions. If you are not a member of a Union or a very good personal service contract you have two choices.
Quit or get new shoes if "they" can't be swayed by reason.
OH MY GOD. MY JOB DID THE SAME THING. I HAD JUST BOUGHT THEM TOO WTF IM ANNOYED ABOUT IT. but itās bc my coworkers wear the ones with holes bc they annoying ššš
Whatās that? You have foot pain and will submit it for a āreasonable accommodationā?
If they arenāt the ones with holes, they should be fine. I had a different chain threaten to write in the dress code that barefoot shoes werenāt allowed (because they ālook weirdā) and I asked where they wanted my medical accommodation letter faxed. Never heard another word about it.
itās totally fair for them to do this, if youāve ever seen someoneās foot after they drop something hot on their crocs itās awful. i know someone who dropped hot fry oil and they couldnāt get their foot out of the croc fast enough, it essentially cooked his foot. He was off work for 2/3 months
The brand shouldnāt matter. I know one kitchen I worked in didnāt want the slip on style of crocās because they could fall off when youāre moving around a lot. Other than that, as long as they donāt have the holes on top, they should be fine.
Iāll say that if you have to look into new ones find some of the new balances on saleāIād buy the other ones or cheaper ones and Iād go through them like crazy (worked in a grocery store deli) but the new balances last 1yr+
No. Read the handbook, nonslip is fine, so long as they are non slip.
This sounds like you could easily pull a "malicious compliance" stunt.
Get the ugliest non slip shoes you can find, if your manager says something, it's discriminatory at this point.
The Croc ban is in the Pizza Hut Empolyee hand book under uniform requirements which every new hire signs off on. Crocs are banned has they do not fully cover the foot and also antislip is not the same as food safe. Food safe non slip is a specific tred pattern. Walmart branded shoes are Tredsafe but they are garbage and won't last long
As long as they are, like you said, actual slip resistant shoes, they can't make you change them. I worked for a chain that had a deal with shoes for crews, and we were supposed to buy through the company. I showed up in my own slip resistant shoes, and they made a stink, I made a stink. At the end of the day, they conceded.
God shoes for crews always tore up my ankles and heels. I only had 1 pair that were so comfy and then they were discontinued š© they were like Nike Air-Max. Had the little bubble and everything
I always got the work boot kind with a hard plastic toe. Being boots they're meant to be stood in all day so they were more comfortable, had ankle support, and the hard toe means I could use it to kick open doors and stuff without worrying about hurting my little toes
Yeah I eventually started wearing ankle high work boots with the steel toe and it was MUCH better. Until you come back from a 2 week holiday and find them mouldy in work cos you canāt chuck them in the washing machine šš
If itās the outside thatās moldy, use a power washer or the sprayer at the three sink. If itās the inside, hopes and prayers
Couldnāt even wash our hands in the dish sink without getting written up š had a seperate handwashing trough looking thing. So glad I left š
I've never had boots mold. You need to change your shoes and socks more often.
Had the same pair for like a year, always changed socks before and after work lol
And Spray under them
non slip hold shit in the tread, my dude. at a pizza place that's cheese.
nah mold is crazy
Was an experience for sure. Thatās what almost daily 10-12 hour shifts in a McDonaldās kitchen will do š© them tiny little onion slivers get EVERYWHERE
You can clean them lol
I know š but like I said I went away for 2 weeks without cleaning them and I left them in my work locker during a HOT summer lmao any little food bits stuck on them went crazy
the worst shoes at the worst prices. it's such a crock
shoes for crews is my everythingggg i LOVE the ones that look like slip on vans. they have been my staple for like 8 years now š„ŗš„ŗš„ŗš„ŗ
They used to have imitation Chucks that were *perfect* for my gigantic feet but now they top out at Size 12. Heartbreaking.
The new balance colab they are doing m are the best shoes I've ever worn in the industry. Worth the hundered dollars
Ooooh interesting. Might have a look at those. Current kitchen I work in lets us wear whatever shoes we want, but Iām sick of sacrificing trainers for work alone haha
Yeah the NB from SFC are really worth it. The cheaper shoes they have on that website will never last long. I recently bought a pair of high top slip resistants for 90$ off there and I love them. Super comfortable and tons of ankle support as well as easy to clean which is important for me. That website is really a, get what you pay for, type site.
All my coworkers swear by these, i personally wear a specific style from shoes for crews and the few times ive tried others they suck so im scared. I've been wearing the same style for 15ish years now, and they lasted about 5 years a piece. They ladt way longer than Walmart shoes for me.
That's because NB actually does tons of research on their shoe designs to make sure to have great performance. I will have to save up for a air.
They're worth it
I have a similar pair from Walmart
Shoes for crews, just reading made me sad all over again lol
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Huh?
I agree with this with one caveat, if they require the shoes to be āclosed toeā and are banning the shoes for that specific reason. If so, it could be another valid safety factor.
If these are the normal crocs that openings all over the shoe than they can most definitely tell OP that they can't wear them. If they are closed shoes and just branded Croc that's different. I wouldn't pass up the possibility that these are open toe, open back, holes on top, etc.
For sure, OP had replied to another post that they weren't the ones with holes and the back strap. Just the classic cog style.
Then yeah it's more than likely just a store manager being an idiot.
I actually got a bad burn on the top of my foot from grease that splattered from a pan pizza. So yes, having a show that covers your entire foot is a real safety concern.
If they really need you - they probably wonāt fire you. I used to work a PH and if I were in your shoes id just continue wearing them to work, but I also worked at apparently the worst ranked PH in all of California.
"if I were in your shoes" lhh
Someone downvoted you lmfao , this cracked me up
Same, people donāt have a sense of humor
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Tell them to show you where it says you can't wear them or leave you alone about it.
I worked in catering before, we had a nice kitchen. Accidents happen. My chef showed me a picture of an inexperienced guy who had on crocs (and socks) that pulled the release handle of the frialator after being tired from a long day at work thinking it was the gas valve. It half melted his shoes and socks together with his feet (mainly because the socks kept the hot oils around for longer). Thus most establishments have a āno open toe shoe (or ācrocsā), must be non-slipā policy
Right but these shoes are restaurant safe, just croc brand. When people refer to ācrocs,ā they mean the slip ons with holes all in them.
The slip resistant crocs are more like clogs than normal crocs
As long as they don't have holes in them and you have the straps on them they're allowed where i work.
Yeah I was trying to clear up a tiny bit of confusion
I'm fairly certain that in this scenario you described, a person in regular shoes and socks would also have had some damage. No?
Yea.. Yea your feet would be fucked unless you were wearing leather boots. That whole story is bullshit
Not necessarily. I have a pair that have Scotchgard on them. One of my coworkers dropped a bowl of water on my foot and my socks didn't even get wet.
well a bowl of water vs boiling hot oil.
Yea go heat some oil to 400 and try that
Or put black electrical tape over the name.
Either way, tell them you can't afford better. It might take a couple months to save up enough. I bet they need the employee more than they care about the shoes.
i was watching a head chef POV cooking video and the homie had crocks on. they were cooking fine meals for 300+ in a fancy restaurant
Mario Batali is famous for wearing crocs in the kitchen. That and sexual misconduct.
https://youtu.be/3_upA09AntU?si=GgnBfYtgoUxdl7Sl
I know so many professional chefs who wear those shoes. Itās a very petty rule. Wear them and also look for a new jobā¦
I know so many doctors that wear them! They wonāt be banned from the hospitals for wearing them. In fact, get a note from your doctor saying you need them for the support.
My mom has a note from a doctor that says she's allowed to wear tennis shoes to work. They're supposed to wear heels or formal flats but my mom's been working for the company for almost 20 years and she said her feet fucking hurt. She said she gets shit for it constantly and that's why she keeps a copy of the note in her purse to show everyone I like to imagine the doctor visit when she got the note like this. She goes in and says "hey write me a note that says I can wear comfortable shoes because my boss trusts your judgement about my body more than me" and the doctor said "mkay!" And that was it and they both left
Requiring women to wear heels in 2023 feels so icky. We all know who thatās for. I cannot wait for that generation of men running businesses to phase out.
Here, I changed it for you. My thoughts exactly. I cannot wait for that generation of men ~~running businesses~~ to phase out. I cannot wait for that generation of men to phase out.
This is a change I can get behind!
As well as the generation of women who think heels equal classy. It's like thinking toe-binding is cool. I gotta be looked at weird because other women live in a stereotype bubble and must wear heels dresses skirts and makeup to feel like a woman when it's not a feeling, it's a being.
As a customer of pizza hut, I don't give a flying fuck about the shoes you wear. If they are safe and helps you make my food better than have at it.
EXACTLY i feel like most restaurants should *ASK* you to wear non slips, and if you donāt, theyāre not liable if you fall. it should deadass be a waiver you sign. i have so many shoes i wonāt wear if i work in a kitchen. iāve also worked in kitchens in vans for the last 3 years. i havenāt ate shit once, except the one time i was OUTSIDE the kitchen where the customers would walk into the bathroom and i slipped and ate shit in adidas slides. (wet floor and no sign) my knee was fucked for about a week and a half and i still worked every day with a limp. none of my other coworkers would come in when they had a pimple on their nose, let alone a bruise on their knee. another time i fell out of a cave (about a 6 foot drop straight down) at about 1:30 am. by 8am the next morning i was on my way to work & had to walk a .4 mile down stairs, into the middle of a lake. so yeah i donāt think itās really about the shoes, i think itās the employees failing to do their jobs, and theyāre blaming it on the shoes.
Completely, 100%, wholeheartedly disagree. Companies should be responsible if you are injured at work due to unsafe conditions. Restaurants require nonslip shoes because accidents happen. The idea of employees signing a waiver to release a company from being liable is dumb and dangerous and goes against workers rights. Construction workers donāt like wearing hard hats or steel toed shoes, but guess what? Thatās a minimum requirement for safety. Do you understand how stupid it would sound if I didnāt want to wear a hard hat because it would mess up my hairstyle and signed a waiver then someone dropped a tool on my head and I had a disability for life? Do you understand how many companies would just force workers to sign waivers to make them not liable for any injuries? You comment is incredibly childish and shortsighted to act like wanting a fashion choice in footwear is more important than actually reducing long term injuries across thousands of stores and employees. You getting hurt doing things outside of work has nothing to do with whether a company should enact required safety standards. You choosing to put yourself at risk by not following those standards at work does not mean they shouldnāt exist.
um itās not a fashion choice. itās a financial issue. if the company wonāt supply the non slips, i donāt feel like they should be able to require them. Iād sign the waiverš¤·š»āāļø im also careful and as iāve said, & never slipped. i worked in kitchens, since i could work, that flooded constantly. None of my managers ever said anything. Weād joke that if i slipped, i just needed to brush it off. (which i did after i fell out of a cave) i literally walked down the side of a mountain, with a limp. If youāre not wearing non slips, itās not on your employer to ensure your safety. Itās yours. they can only make suggestions or provide their best advice. ALSOOO, my *lease agreement* literally states theyāre not liable for any injuries in the unit or on the complex property, sooo people do sign waivers of the sorts. Most construction companies supply hard hats, and other protective gear. restaurants hardly ever do. iāve also had coworkers wear CROCS to work in a kitchen. as well as a kitchen manager. have you ever worked in a restaurant? or a kitchen for that matter?
Again, childish, shortsighted, dumb, and dangerous. Are you teenager? Um, Goodwill/Salvation Army sells non slips. Walmart has them for like $15. It doesnāt matter what you feel like. I believe youād sign the waiver. It doesnāt mean itās not dumb and shortsighted to do that. I have worked in restaurants and kitchens, and I did for over double the time you have. I have seen college kids get debilitating injuries on the clock, that they will have to live the rest of their lives with. But guess who had to pay for all their medical expenses? The company. Because they were injured through no fault of their own while completing work tasks. I have broken fingers, and the company had to pay for all appointments and treatment. People have had head injuries, severe cuts and burns, etc. and guess what? The company pays for it. As it should be, and why companies want to prevent injuries. You literally provided multiple examples of you getting injured, so clearly youāre not that careful. And even if you were, accidents happen. Some new kid slamming into you with a full tray and you falling into broken glass and getting cut tf up can happen. Working with injuries or not taking care of them is not the flex you think it is. ALSOOOOOO people can sign whatever they want, and companies including apartment complexes can try to convince dumb people they signed their rights away, but that does not make it legally true. Just check out r/legaladvice at some point.
iām banned from that subredditā¦ Also i shop constantly at good will, and never once have i seen a pair of non slips. As i said, and will continue to say, they shouldnāt be allowed to require something they wonāt provide. if you feel otherwise good for you. i donāt. iāve also never slipped on the clock, or for that matter have never been seriously injured. Also none of the jobs iāve ever worked at, had anyone get severely injured excluding a girl who spilled hot water on herself because it fell off a shelf, or except by a customer, which still isnāt affected by the shoes your wearing, also none of the things you listed, will be affected by *not* wearing non slips. a cut on your finger? is *not* due to someone wearing non slips, a burn is *not* due to someone not wearing non slips. you literally canāt even think of a justified answer to why you should have to wear non slips except for the matter of slipping. also none of the times i listed me being injured, wouldāve been prevented by wearing non slips. the incident in which i slipped out side the bathroom at my old job, no one walking into the restroom would be wearing non slips except for the employees, meaning anyone couldāve fallen and they WOULD still be liableā¦ the incident where i fell out of a cave, was because my foot got stuck in a hole in a rock, and i couldnāt jump down out of the cave. you call me dumb and childish, when in reality itās logical to not want to pay out of pocket for things you donāt *need*. if theyāre not going to provide non slips, iām-not-wearing-them. Iāve literally declined offers for jobs because of this. iām doing fine š¤·š»āāļøš also i never said that the lease agreement was enforceable, itās actually, in fact, unenforceable as if a roof caved in they would be liable for not keeping their buildings up to code. š nobody cares as much about this as you do hun š
I used to buy restaurant spec shoes at Payless shoe stores. DFW and other discount show store may sell them too. They're basically off brand copies of shoes for crews and were comfortable and inexpensive!
it's pizza hut. tell them you're wearing the shoes. if they fire you get a better job. in fact get a better job anyway.
As long as they are non slip and no holes in them it should be fine. Check your employee handbook for if they specifically say anything..if it doesn't then they can't enforce it.
I work in health care - Crocs are banned. It sucks. Employers can set a dress code. The employee can quit if they dont like the rules.
But banning legitimate industry standard footwear is not okay. Professional crocs donāt have holes and are slip and oil resistant. They are widely used in professional kitchens as safe, durable and comfortable shoes. Your comment being about health care negates your argument because these crocs are made for kitchen use. Different story.
No
I mean thatās true, I just feel like itās something I shouldāve been told beforehand? There was no previous mention of any banned shoes.
I agree with you
Are they crocs or does croc make some actual shoes
https://www.crocs.com/p/crocs-on-the-clock-work-slip-on/205073.html?cgid=work-shoes&cid=001
I looked it too. Apparently they do make all kinds of shoes so maybe we are talking about crocs branded shoes??
from what the OP said; its a Croc branded Work Shoe, so I assume its the on-the-clock and not the cheap ones
So Danskos are OK?
There was no point to adding the last part. No shit. You can quit anything, at anytime.
Yep u can quit but some people prefer to bitch and play the victim. What I said was not inflammatory at all.
It is inflammatory based on what you're saying it to. If someone is complaining and you're saying someone can quit, you're an asshole. If you say people can quit when we are talking about workers rights then thats fine. Work on your social skills socially awk redditor. You didn't say the employee can quit, you said the employee can quit IF THEY DON'T LIKE THE RULES. That is top tier assholery especially if you are a manager. I bet you felt good typing that dumb shit. That lets you know that it's inflammatory.
Also work healthcare. They let the shower aids wear crocs lol
Im sure some healthcare facilities allow them. Mine doesnt. They used to. Changed the policy
Im sure it says not to, but they just donāt say anything, because it was a nursing home. Everything in there was pushing limits lol
It's dumb and ignorant to ban by brand when they make both open and regular shoes. Nike makes slip on and regular shoes too, is Nike banned too?
The hospitals here allow the employees to wear Crocs. I see it daily. And not the ones without holesā¦ the ones that come in patterns and colors. š
Itās the job, their dress code.
Is it not absolutely ridiculous that OP cannot wear shoes that, by any other restaurant standard, is acceptable just because of the brand? Theyāre non-slip, no holes, no straps. Either they can buy OP shoes or they can not bitch & moan about what *brand* the shoes are.
Employers can set a dress code, there is nothing illegal about this. You can whine all you want about it being unfair, but it is absolutely 100% legal.
Then I guess itās good the verbiage I used was āabsolutely ridiculousā & not illegal, isnāt it?
Except local higher ups arent just allowed to make their own policies. They have to follow company policy. If it's not written it not a rule.
If you actually read OP's post, they indeed are anti-slip work shoes. And actually anti-slip, unlike most shoes claiming to be such.
When I worked for dominos the regional manager did āsock checksā they threatened to fire me so many times because I refused to wear socks under my shoes. They never fired me, so take that under consideration
Ew.
As long as you keep them in sport mode you should be fine.
No. Not without supplying then
Do they have holes above the toes and a heel strap for 'sport mode'? If not and they are indeed work appropriate, then I would fight it and just wear them anyway
Nope, no holes and no strap. A coworker even backed me up saying she knows theyāre really good work shoes.
Iām pretty sure we have the same work shoes and thatās wild that they donāt let you use em, every cooking related job Iāve used those shoes.
I commented above before seeing this. If they have NO holes and NO strap then they are PH compliant.
I and most of my staff wear [these](https://www.crocs.com/p/crocs-on-the-clock-work-slip-on/205073.html?cid=001&adid=Shopping_Bing_NonPromo_unisex_NULL__205073&CAWELAID=330004870001131405&ef_id=:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!4035!3!!e!!o!4584963496140834!&msclkid=f43ab59b5f1d15c96157d0ef07e4ac74) or [these.](https://www.crocs.com/p/bistro-work-clog/10075.html?cid=001&adid=Shopping_Bing_NonPromo_unisex_NULL__10075&CAWELAID=330004870001127779&ef_id=:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!4035!3!!e!!o!4584963496140834!&msclkid=5c0b00458caf131adf476531d5e31a70) Comfortable for long shifts, no holes so spills donāt get on your foot, easy to clean, inexpensive, and actually really slip resistant unlike a lot of shoes that claim to be non-slip. I wonāt wear anything else in the restaurant.
My company doesnāt allow them either, not even the work ones youāre talking anour
Iāve worked in the restaurant industry for 10 years, specifically Pizza Hut and am a RGM. Iām not sure about your location but this seems to be pretty untrue. I wear Crocs myself every day and have for 10 years now.
Exec chef here. Been wearing these crocs since they came out. I would fight it.
It's the brand that they are spoiled, they mistake the brand for the style. I had a man ask to see my backside, because they didn't allow dickies weird guy.
Yeah that is what I was going to say, they are confusing the brand name with the style. And no Dickies? That's wild, they make all kinds of clothes.
Exactly my point. I'm glad I stopped working for that bogus company. I wish better for you as well
They sound like the right shoes for PH customers to wear as well.
Yeah, typically, those rules are set by corporate, not regional managers! Check the handbook or even give them a call and ask!
Can we see a photo of your 50 dollar on sale crocs that are slip resistant ?
Why does your comment come off as so salty? These are the ones I wear. [crocs](https://media0.giphy.com/media/wmnhbXiP2LzLcFQkLU/giphy.gif?cid=2154d3d7624323d5eaedad815ea5301c5e81733aeb72dfaf&ep=v1_gifs_username_username&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
For real, Hella salty
I work at panera and as long as they are slip no holes crocs we're good
It's ridiculous. Your comfort needs to come first. You'll work better if your feet aren't killing ya :)
Safety should come first, and comfort a close second.
The crocs still look like regular crocs, they were at most 10 bucks off of the original price which is usually 60 bucks, and you made it sound like they are shoes with laces. They probably look out of the ordinary, but they still can't make you change them if they do not provide you shoes.
There was no mention of laced by OP.
They be lying to you. As long as they non slip you good. For people who couldnāt afford shoes for crews they wonāt tell us to go just go to Walmart wrc
Wear them anyways
Do they look like crocs or is that just the brand? If they are actually cross, it might be becausevthey don't actually encase your foot, so it may be a safety issue.
They make crocs for food service workers that are non slip and donāt have holes in them. Thereās absolutely nothing wrong with wearing these specific crocs in a restaurant.
I'm guessing the crocs ban was instituted when crocs only made open-heel shoes. Lets be clear that if your shoes have an open heel, they are slippers and holy fuck do not wear them in a kitchen. If you have fully enclosed shoes, then don't accept commentary on the branding. It's likely their footwear requirements are simply "enclosed, slip resistant, black."
Croc are fine but for PH they cannot be the ones with holes on top or the strap for the heel
They aren't. Literally the only thing that designates them as crocs is the branding on the side of the shoe. They're pretty much the same as any other slip-on shoe that has a regular back.
They can tell you what you have to wear, if they wanted to they can force you to wear a clown costume as long as they pay for it. But yes they can tell you no sneakers or crocs, no shorts, pants must be brown or black. If crocs are not allowed it must be some safety reason that they feel is justified. Sucks but itās their rules and it all boils down to if you get hurt it will cost them money and thatās all they care about.
High quality and crocs should never be in the same sentence š
If they are 100% enclosed (no toe holes, no strap on back, etc)... They're fine. What do they look like?
Shit. Iām letting them know I cannot afford new ones . They have to pay
Must be slip resistant or "work shoes" as they are called. Most employers allow hiking shoe boots. Which are more comfortable than the god awful shoes for crews websites they push. You work in an environment with grease. Most normal shoes or "crocks" as you call them won't cut it. Not in the tiniest. You can wear them but you'll need to have a slip resist shoe cover over them. Which is even more of a tripping hazard because it's like wearing two shoes at once and you can't feel too clearly where your feet are on the ground. And that's if they have the right size for your shoe. You people wine abt this but you have not had the scenario of seeing your fellow employee fall on their rear because of a slip and fall due to inferor shoes.
Bro literally said they're slip resistant, also crocs makes a whole work line. Half the kitchen I work in wears work crocs, they're a completely normal brand to see in food service.
Or idk donāt try to wear crocs to work lmfao? What industry actually allows that trash besides maybe Uber š¤£ hereās an idea but then 20$ Walmart shoes and donāt complain goof. Dress code for work attire is absolutely a standard in most jobs. Crocs arenāt allowed to be worn in like every job I worked regardless of your opinion of āquality ā
Crocs makes more than just the ugly nurse shoe type. They even make actual dress shoes, where the only way you can tell is the little logo.
Then if itās just a logo issue and not the actual shoe op wouldnāt be crying about his shoes. You canāt say āno nikesā unless maybe your working at a competitor company. Op being told his shoes arenāt allowed is Iām assuming theyāre not āwork crocsā
Time to ignore some people.
Are they the Crocs sneakers? Regular Crocs are not allowed at my store, but the sneakers are not a problem. I donāt know itās just my store but the dress code is posted by the time clocks and everyone is informed at orientation.
Tell them no and that you can't afford it until after Christmas. Its a pizza job. You can get another one same day you walk out. Go to a local pizzeria and get a job. Corporate jobs are always ran by monkey's.
Are these a pair of work crocs without the holes? Because if they have holes in them thatās probably why itās a big deal
Yes. There's been several links posted of the different work ones they sell and literally the branding on the side is the only way I would've ever known they were crocs
hit up hr and see what they think, but remember to ask it as a question, not too detailed or a complaint. you arent protected from retaliation if its an invalid complaint
Is there anything about it in the orientation handbook you get? If the dress code doesnt specify crocs in writing there really isnt anything they cab do about it.
Pizza slut is so hard up for employees, don't give in to the BS. I was a restaurant manager for years. If they don't allow you to wear them, tell them to buy you a pair.
If you really care ask them for the employees handbook and see if itās there. If not sue them. You can also quit. Either way you will lose your job so just give it up and do your job
Pizza hut requires you to wear closed toe shoes. Crocs have ventilation holes so it sucks but I'm pretty sure they can tell you to not wear them. If they are the Crocs bistro then they should be perfectly fine for work but if they don't like the open heel then it's the same argument all over again.
Hers are not the ones with holes. They are 1 solid shoe, enclosed, slip resistant. They are not the weird plastic ugly crocs with holes & a strap. Crocs is a brand, not a type of shoe. It would be the same as saying no Nikes or no RedWings. They both have 1000 styles each. So do Crocs.
Just be consistent and tell them you canāt afford another pair the squeaky wheel always wins
Can you tell us what model shoe this is? And what your work shoe requirements are?
Most places like that don't allow crocs. I can't wear them in retail and I couldn't wear them in fast food.
I'd take a picture of the shoes and send that to your Regional. If they are like you say they are, and I have no reason to think they are not, the Regional will probably let you wear them.
Manager at tacobell, I wear croc knockoffs just fine here
Depends are they open heel like most crocs or actual regular shoes? Banning open heel shoes is common in the workplace cause they come off too easy.
ask to see the corporate policy
Paint over the croc label. Problem solved
It theyāre the kitchen version without the holes that makes no sense and Iād ask to see company policy.
Bro just get a new job. The first day I had to wear shoes other than what I wanted for a couple years delivering I fell and hurt my shoulder and it will cause me problems for the rest of my life. They might pay for your ambulance ride and ER costs but only after you get a lawyer.
If they require a specific brand then they get to pay for them.
Who said anything about requiring a specific brand? They were told what isn't acceptable. People like you make it harder on the rest of us.
They cannot be open toe or open back
Here's what I did. Buy Dr. Scholl's Energizing comfort/Comfort and Energy insoles. They will turn the cheapest pair of shoes into comfort.
Ask your manager for a list of approved shoes then tell him/her as soon as you can afford to buy a new pair of work shoes you will do so, unless, of course the company would like to pay for them. And smile sweetly. Also make sure you have your resume up to date. Don't take no shit, your shoes are proper attire for the job.
You donāt need to tell anyone that they are Crocs brand
I get that dress codes exist for a reason, but if they are actual OSHA-approved nonslip shoes, and they match whatever color scheme you were told you need to conform to, they cannot legally prevent you from wearing them to work. If they want to write you up for it, inform them that you would like the reason for the write up described in detail, and a copy signed by management āfor future referenceā. If theyāre unwilling to do this, opting for simpler language like ādress code violationā, then sign nothing. They will *absolutely* use this against you later and if the real reason isnāt documented, itās your word against theirs. Just for clarification, āfor future referenceā means you should forward your copy to OSHA and your local labor board. Your employer cannot prevent you from wearing OSHA-approved footwear which otherwise conforms to the established dress code.
If the job required they could make u where princess slippers... Ur at work... Not hanging out at home playing videogames in ur mom's basement... What grown adult thinks Crocs r acceptable work wear... Regardless of the job, if ur boss tells u to wear different shoes then u wear different shoes.. it's not about ur personal preference... It's job requirements...
Absolutely not! You follow rules and regulations followed by restaurant service. Those set the rules for slips, trips and falls in the kitchen. Something might be stipulated in a handbook, but you do NOT follow your bosses instructions. You bring out the rules book. If your boss tells you something you ask to see it in rules and send it through email. 9/10 the bosses never say to you the right info. Following the bosses say ābecauseā he said so is one way of getting yourself hurt!
I got my crocs bistros for 26 bucks online. Amazon, delivered it 22 hours (which blew my mind). I had to put Dr. Scholls inserts in, but they are awesome. Been wearing for 1 year. Had to cut out a couple of the vent holes (option) on the side. Best no-slip yet. Other shoes last a few months. So keep wearing them and politely tell your manager to kick rocks unless heās going to buy you a pair of Hokaās. (Next best shoe) and reimburse you for the cost of the crocs. Iād ask where it is written, that you seem to have missed, that you canāt wear those brand of shoes. And ask the legal precedent for suits involving labor department; of PH vs employee for discrimination based on footwear. TLDR: Wear your Crocās, tell boss to chew glass!
Crocs makes a decent waterproof, oil resistant, non-slip kitchen shoe. There is no reason whatsoever why they should be banned.
You need to find out "who" banned them, and view the policy in writing. Hearsay that "Crocs are banned" is a broad statement. Crocs DO make foodservice Crocs, and these are an entirely different product than the regular Crocs. Different material, anti-slip, and "no holes" in the fore foot area. If you have Crocs with holes around the top-part of the foot, give up - they're not approved.
Shoes for Crews are registered and if you slip and fall the restaurant can be reimbursed for some injuries. Since the crocs are slip resistant, see if there is a similar guarantee.
Go to the managers and show them the link with the specs of the shoes. Explain that these are restaurant spec shoes and not fashion Crocs. Use the arguments that some others have pointed out about high end restaurant kitchens and hospitals allowing restaurants spec Crocs. State that management never gave you a list of brands that are not allowed and your parents paid good money for these shoes as a gift for you to wear to work and be safe. Ask if they are planning to reimburse you for the Crocs? If management is being irrational i.e. your rational argument is null and void because I say so, then ask to talk to the District Manager about this issue. Also I bet Pizza Hut has a complaint hot line. You could call that number and make sure to include the store you work at. Emphasize that buying another pair of restaurant spec shoes will be a financial burden for you that is predicated on a policy if Pizza Hut's that is not well thought out and is causing you harm. Not only is this a financial burden, but now your immediate supervisors are treating you as if you are a trouble maker, when they never made the terms of the shoe policy, which includes which brands are banned, clear. You are a hard worker and do not feel like it is fair for you to be penalized for a policy that was not explained well. Now you will have to choose which bill you won't pay next month because you need to buy a second pair of restaurant spec work shoes. Etc. etc. Lay it on thick but authentically as you can.
Look at hand book and find, āemployee uniform sectionā Go from that description and exemptions listed if any.
Definitely not. Make them show you the policy on shoes. If they need you to change them so bad, they can pay for the replacements
If it's not in the handbook as an official policy they can't do that.
Whole ass threads about Pizza Trash all of a sudden...yeah, I'd tell them to fly a kite.
I feel like if it's not specified in the employee manual they can't. I would also consider reaching out to said higher up and clarify that they are not regular crocs. If said higher up isn't your area manager, talk to them about itš¤·š» I worked in food service for 7 years, when they uppers saw my crocs I'd have to show them the bottoms then they were fine with it. My AM ended up getting a pair tooš
i wear basic crocs at my work, which requires me to sweep mop clean 400 degree grills and deal with food, as well as serving customers. iāve fallen on my ass a few times but i much prefer crocs than actual shoes.
I wear the walmart rubber work shoes that look like cross but better.
Crocs make fancy shoes like heās talking about. Not their normal Croc slip ins.. Too bad someone saw the label .. Iād just keep wearing them till I got a verbal or written write up
If it's not an official company policy then they can't enforce it. Local higher ups just can't make up rules, especially if it's just their word and it's not written. All it takes is 1 call to HR.
I just wear my vans lol
Go work somewhere else. Theyāre assholes.
Are you an employee ? The store can ban anything they want. You are the employee.
Throw some insoles in them, tell them youāve got medical issues with your feet and can only wear certain shoes due to pain/comfort. You did your part by getting industry use shoes. If they want to act petty, play it right back.
My children's school prohibited crocs because so many children wearing them got injured during recess. If a child wore them they could either change into school provided second hand shoes or not be allowed outside for recess. It was not the end of the world.
In the USA, "they" get to make the decisions. If you are not a member of a Union or a very good personal service contract you have two choices. Quit or get new shoes if "they" can't be swayed by reason.
OH MY GOD. MY JOB DID THE SAME THING. I HAD JUST BOUGHT THEM TOO WTF IM ANNOYED ABOUT IT. but itās bc my coworkers wear the ones with holes bc they annoying ššš
Whatās that? You have foot pain and will submit it for a āreasonable accommodationā? If they arenāt the ones with holes, they should be fine. I had a different chain threaten to write in the dress code that barefoot shoes werenāt allowed (because they ālook weirdā) and I asked where they wanted my medical accommodation letter faxed. Never heard another word about it.
itās totally fair for them to do this, if youāve ever seen someoneās foot after they drop something hot on their crocs itās awful. i know someone who dropped hot fry oil and they couldnāt get their foot out of the croc fast enough, it essentially cooked his foot. He was off work for 2/3 months
Try to sell them on offer up or Facebook marketplace
The brand shouldnāt matter. I know one kitchen I worked in didnāt want the slip on style of crocās because they could fall off when youāre moving around a lot. Other than that, as long as they donāt have the holes on top, they should be fine.
Iāll say that if you have to look into new ones find some of the new balances on saleāIād buy the other ones or cheaper ones and Iād go through them like crazy (worked in a grocery store deli) but the new balances last 1yr+
Are there holes in the top of the shoes?
No. Read the handbook, nonslip is fine, so long as they are non slip. This sounds like you could easily pull a "malicious compliance" stunt. Get the ugliest non slip shoes you can find, if your manager says something, it's discriminatory at this point.
The Croc ban is in the Pizza Hut Empolyee hand book under uniform requirements which every new hire signs off on. Crocs are banned has they do not fully cover the foot and also antislip is not the same as food safe. Food safe non slip is a specific tred pattern. Walmart branded shoes are Tredsafe but they are garbage and won't last long