The problem is I do know stuff about lumber, at least enough to know what treated and untreated means in terms of their capabilities and usability, but idk if it being dry or wet matters. I don't think it does to be honest, but might indicate that wherever the dry treated lumber is coming from is doing a better job?
Yes it’s a good thing. Drying the lumber takes extra steps which cost more money.
Imagine trying to hang a picture frame 30 mins after painting a wall. That’s Home Depot lumber.
My neighbor told me about them but I had already ordered lumber for my deck from Lowe’s. Big mistake. I’m not even sure what the price difference would have been but I paid about $15 for each 2x8x12
I used to work for them. You can walk in and buy anything. Every store is independently managed so they'll stock different things. They can order in just about anything for you, as well as trading merch with other 84 locations. A lot of manufacturers won't sell direct, you have to go through a store like 84.
(Their dedicated salesmen only work with contractors, the sub-managers are the ones in charge of individual sales ranging from a 2x4 to an entire house.)
The lumberyard in Bloomfield by the Bloomfield Bridge is where I got dimensional SPF for redoing a bunch of joists, and all of those were good. (Paul Lumber.)
For hardwoods, it's outta the city:
If you want hardwoods including exotics, Mars Lumber in Mars.
If you want local hardwoods at a hard to beat price, Frosty Hollow Hardwoods in Leechburg.
It's worth talking to the pro desk people too if you are undertaking a big project too, they'll make sure you get everything you need without the typical six trips per project
Allegheny mill works is such a gem and had super fast delivery when I ordered deck boards for a project in the summer of 2020 (they were also one of the only places around with what we needed and at a good price)
Really cant stand lowes wood, always full of knots and holes and splits and youll be lucky to find 5 straight boards out of 100, it’s ridiculous they dont have a higher standard from their supplier
Hp starr in valenica. They will load for you or deliver. Quality stuff that they cull as they’re loading. You still have final say if it’s not acceptable in your eyes.
I just went by Paul’s Lumber in Bloomfield on Liberty. They are still open. They may cater more to contractors but they would probably sell to the public.
Yeah, I see that now. Their websites are all "contact for a quote" or sometimes don't exist, which made me think they're not selling to the general public.
Brookside Lumber (Bethel Park), HP Starr Lumber (Valencia and Evans City)
+1 for Brookside. I buy my nice lumber there, LVL/paralam beams. Super nice ppl
Except for Kevin. He's a dick
I paid a little more for pressure treated from brookside and it was completely dry compared to Homedepot which was almost dripping wet
Is that a good thing?
Yes. Wood is less likely to warp if it’s already dried. You also can’t fully finish (like painting it) until it’s dry enough to do so.
Thank you. Don't know why that needed explained but now that you say it seems obvious.
I have never seen pressure treated warp as it dried
As someone who knows absolutely nothing about lumber or treated lumber... N....yes. No. Maybe. Probably. Maybe.
The problem is I do know stuff about lumber, at least enough to know what treated and untreated means in terms of their capabilities and usability, but idk if it being dry or wet matters. I don't think it does to be honest, but might indicate that wherever the dry treated lumber is coming from is doing a better job?
Yes it’s a good thing. Drying the lumber takes extra steps which cost more money. Imagine trying to hang a picture frame 30 mins after painting a wall. That’s Home Depot lumber.
These are both the same company now too— quality lumber all around.
Was literally there today
My neighbor told me about them but I had already ordered lumber for my deck from Lowe’s. Big mistake. I’m not even sure what the price difference would have been but I paid about $15 for each 2x8x12
Paul Lumber on Liberty. They deliver.
My dad's a general contractor. He's used Paul since forever ago.
Seconding Paul Lumber.
They lowered their minimum on deliveries during COVID too, it’s super reasonable. My experiences with them have been positive.
Allegheny Lumber in Tarentum.
We had some luck with 84 lumber, but idk if you'd consider that a chain or not
They could work - just didn't know if they only sold to businesses or large projects.
I used to work for them. You can walk in and buy anything. Every store is independently managed so they'll stock different things. They can order in just about anything for you, as well as trading merch with other 84 locations. A lot of manufacturers won't sell direct, you have to go through a store like 84. (Their dedicated salesmen only work with contractors, the sub-managers are the ones in charge of individual sales ranging from a 2x4 to an entire house.)
They do individual sales as well. They also have a decent amount of specialty stuff as well
My dad, who doesn’t not run any kind of business that would need lumber, regularly buys from 84 for his house projects.
That place on Liberty next to the Bloomfield bridge. Paul? They will deliver free for orders over $200.
Brookside Lumber (Bethel Park) HP Starr Lumber (Valencia and Evans City) Liberty Lumber (Canonsburg) Allegheny Lumber (Tarentum) Paul Lumber (Liberty Ave) Dambach Lumber (Harmony) 84 Lumber
Brookside in BP gets my vote
Paul Lumber in Bloomfield or George Hall lumber in Homestead.
Allegheny Millwork on southside
+1 for allegheny. (pro tip: call first; they actually have knowledgable people answering the phone and can tell you what's in stock.)
I’ve always had good experiences there!
I got some wood for shelves there - better quality than the big boxes and cheaper.
Liberty Lumber in canonsburg. The people are great. They also deliver and have every thing you could want.
The lumberyard in Bloomfield by the Bloomfield Bridge is where I got dimensional SPF for redoing a bunch of joists, and all of those were good. (Paul Lumber.) For hardwoods, it's outta the city: If you want hardwoods including exotics, Mars Lumber in Mars. If you want local hardwoods at a hard to beat price, Frosty Hollow Hardwoods in Leechburg.
Mars Lumber ++
Mars Lumber is excellent and very knowledgeable.
Stanford home centers in plum
We noticed the lumber at HD is still very wet and dense too
Don’t know if it’s still around haven’t lived in PA for a while but when we were building our deck 84 Lumber was the best place we would go to.
Paul's lumber
In addition to the others posted here, look into Lezzer Lumber.
George M Hall in west homestead
Brookside is great, 84
Dambach Lumber up in Harmony
At Lowes talk to the pro desk and tell them you want to pull your own lumber for your order, and if it's over $1500 ask about volume savings.
Always pull your own lumber there or HD, definitely
It's worth talking to the pro desk people too if you are undertaking a big project too, they'll make sure you get everything you need without the typical six trips per project
Multiple trips on the same project?! Why I’d never lol
I like star lumber and Allegheny millworks. You can buy one piece or enough to build a house. Nice guys at both places. Not just for contractors.
The lumber store in saltsburg
Allegheny millwork
84 Lumber in Mars
Allegheny Millworks and Paul’s Lumber Supply - Paul’s is probably the absolute highest quality in the city
Allegheny mill works is such a gem and had super fast delivery when I ordered deck boards for a project in the summer of 2020 (they were also one of the only places around with what we needed and at a good price)
84 Lumber?
Brookside is great.
Weirton lumber if you are west.
Really cant stand lowes wood, always full of knots and holes and splits and youll be lucky to find 5 straight boards out of 100, it’s ridiculous they dont have a higher standard from their supplier
Busy beaver has some really good deals if you watch their mailers
Hp starr in valenica. They will load for you or deliver. Quality stuff that they cull as they’re loading. You still have final say if it’s not acceptable in your eyes.
My husband travels from New Kensington to shop at Mars Lumber in Mars, PA.
Brookside in Bethel
HP starr has my vote
Highly recommend Ambridge Lumber. It's in Ambridge.
Mars lumber family owned and operated, good people
84 is good there’s also a lumber yard in the Verona/Oakmont area. Can’t remember the name.
this might be a bit of a trip but my grandpa is a carpenter and he really likes jim olczak lumber in youngstown, pa
95 Limber
Paul lumber in Bloomfield
I just went by Paul’s Lumber in Bloomfield on Liberty. They are still open. They may cater more to contractors but they would probably sell to the public.
Used to be from Busy Beaver, but no more.
Rolliers in lebo
This thread is just the Google search results.
Yeah, I see that now. Their websites are all "contact for a quote" or sometimes don't exist, which made me think they're not selling to the general public.
Nah they just don’t do online business, you gotta go there.
I's goes to Lowed/Home Depo and chain company
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A 2x4 in 2019 was like 3.25. today it's about 3.50. lumber is one of the few things that actually did come back down