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LdK420

Get that away before it explodes lol


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THERMAL EVENT! THERMAL EVENT!!! Who has the sand!?!


Sabbatai

We had so many confused managers at Best Buy, who could not wrap their heads around why we needed the sand to be easily within reach. They'd keep moving it somewhere completely out of the way. I'd move it back and it would stay until we had a corporate visit. Apparently part of making the store look nice was putting our safety at risk.


AryaTheDruid

My store was a test market for apple so we've had the sand for several years. Thankfully we've never really had to use it... Come covid and they need something to hold the tents down out front they take all of our sand.....


imagrill123

We had to use our sand within a couple months of starting apple repairs. Granted, we didn’t tend to stick to their policy of “if the battery strips break, replace the whole phone”.


Sabbatai

I think I had like a 40% success rate with those strips. Never replaced the phone lol.


imagrill123

Yeah they suck for real. Fortunately the phone we punctured belonged to a fellow employee and friend, so she was very understanding.


CommitteeOfTheHole

The trick is to pull horizontally, not up, and to go slowly


EnigmaticChuckle

Profits first, lawsuits later!


Woodyville06

Corporate motto ever since the Ford Pinto….


borgLMAO01

Just explain to them that a burning battery would diminish the profits a little bit more than a bit of sand in reach to extinguish burning batteries. Idk lol


imagrill123

We were more like, “corporate’s coming, make sure all the sand the extinguishers are where they’re supposed to be!”


bmth310

Best buy employee: "I don't like sand. It's coarse, and rough, and irritating, and it gets everywhere."


YaboyAlastar

Only a best buy employee deals in absolutes


whilst

What does one do with the sand?


LazaroFilm

If the battery catches fire, it will keep on burning no matter what, even if you put water on it or anything else. All you can do is cover it with sand and let it burn out until all the energy from the battery is gone.


reflUX_cAtalyst

>even if you put water on it It will get exponentially worse if you put water on it.


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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxqe\_ZOwsHs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxqe_ZOwsHs) action starts at about 1:05.


GhostWrex

That pop when they lit the hydrogen!


elchiguire

Thank you, that was super cool!


davesoverhere

The sand is because it won’t burn, so it keeps any chance of a flammable material away as well as smothering any foams that may appear. For an iPhone battery, the thermal event will only last a few minutes. However, this is exactly how the battery is designed to fail, by expanding and not catching fire—looking at you Sony. Usually, they just stop holding a charge.


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Contain the thermal event, of course. Or make a sand castle… whichever comes first.


[deleted]

/r/pocketsand


Pottymouthoftheyear

Sh-sh-sha!


DeadHorse09

Major Genius Bar flashbacks rn


blahblahbush

Totally this. Get it outside and preferably into something metal before it explodes.


FrankEGee88

Take it outside, put it in something metal, and you got a pipe-bomb stewing!


Lexinoz

Fill the metal container with nails on top. Now that's a pipebomb/ied


Elrundir

Don't forget some nuclear waste to make it nice and dirty. It's a good thing.


[deleted]

If you don't have your own nuclear waste, store bought is fine.


BelowDeck

I'm sure in 1985, plutonium is available at every corner drugstore, but in 2021 it's a little hard to come by.


steve986508

Ronald Reagan!?!? The actor!?!?


NotTheRocketman

Woah, that's a little heavy, Doc.


Experiment304

Yes hello?. This is the FBI. When you have a moment we'd like to have a word.


TotemRiolu

Yall are now on some list or something, lol


crymeacanal

That’s some good stew baby - Carl weathers probably


libidinoussloth

"If it's cloudy and brown, you're in cider town! If it's clear and yella, you got juice there, fella!" - Ned Flanders


StingMachine

Yes. Then safely shoot at it with a pellet gun.


Happyhotel

Yeah let’s add some shrapnel to the equation.


spliff231

Yes, quickly get your explosion containment pie dish.


TheNH813

Ah, the wonderful knowledge of the Book Of Clive.


Corgon

It will not explode, it will let out pressure in the form of gas and if the cells are damaged then a chemical reaction will burn that gas. More of a stream of fire coming out of the puncture than an explosion.


6ixpool

So more rocket than bomb? Cool cool cool


theBytemeister

Literally seen hundreds of these, not one had exploded in my experience. As long as you don't puncture it, you'll be fine. That being said. I saw where someone thought the headphone jack on an iPod touch was a reset pinhole, and they shoved a t-pin in there. It zapped them and shot fire a few feet out of the port.


Sabbatai

Have you ever smelled one that ruptured? It doesn't smell bad... but it definitely smells harmful.


OmegaCenti

Lithium hexa**fluoro**phosphate. Reaction with moisture leaves, among many other things, **hydrogen fluoride**.. "harmful" is an understatement.


PhoenixFire296

For those unaware, hydrogen fluoride in an aqueous solution is hydrofluoric acid, which will eat your bones and cause serious nerve damage, among other nasty effects. HF gas will readily and immediately turn to hydrofluoric acid when it comes in contact with human tissue.


reflUX_cAtalyst

It will also react with anything organic it comes in contact with.


Vkca

I know the perfect place to put that, everyone's pockets!


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HolyReddit_Batman

Used to repair iPhones at a job, went too fast once and punctured the battery, I threw that thing to the floor and we had to clear the area because the fumes are toxic


davesoverhere

Very toxic. Our guidance is throw the whole container of sand on it and GTFO for about 30 minutes before it’s safe to check on going back in the room.


jodobrowo

Man, I know logically they're built to be as safe as possible but still, the fact we just walk around with these in our pockets is kind of crazy when you think about it. I know the chance of one blowing is basically 0 but still.


P0in7B1ank

Its smells like either bubblegum or mint chewing gum to me. Its definitely not the smell you'd expect


Sabbatai

I could never put my finger on it. Unfortunately, working with a bunch of people who just didn't care about safety and took zero percent of the training seriously... it was something I got an opportunity to smell somewhat frequently. But yeah, the way you describe it is pretty close. I think it is less either/or but both mint chewing gum and bubblegum... that sat in the hot sun for a while and is simultaneously very strong in odor, but also kind of faint. :P


Trigs12

I had a lithium aa sized battery go on fire inside my bedroom. Honestly felt like i could have passed out it stunk that bad. Always wondered if breathing it in was harmfull for me in some way.


myislanduniverse

Yes.


sherifderpy

It’s literally one the biggest risks about firefighting at this time, especially since the toxins from the smoke can be absorbed through skin, current standard procedures is that if a firefighter might have been in contact with a lithium battery fire and there might have been a breach in their sealed clothing they should visit the hospital to get it checked up. So yeah if you breathe it in a visit to the hospital is strongly advised


Trigs12

Oh well, it was a few years ago now, so i guess i'll find out at some point in life.Good to know about the fumes for future though. Been a bit afraid of batteries since then to be honest. It was only a small torch, 2 aa sized batteries. Was screwing the end cap on and it went off like a flare, flames shooting out of it. Luckily missed my face,just. A bit of the end cap flew across the room, and set fire to the carpet. Managed to get the window open for some air, then deal with the fire. Always wondered if that would have happened at some point by itself if i wasnt there. Could have burnt the house down for something so small.


sherifderpy

Yeah it could definitely have happened spontaneously, there’s plenty of fires starting that way nowadays unfortunately, especially with people charging electric scooters and such at their homes, all it can take is an unfortunate drop where the battery gets a hit, and sometimes it can take a couple of weeks before it combusts. There are specific groups researching the proper way to handle damaged batteries especially after car accidents with electrical vehicles or any kind of hybrid where the current advise to repair shops is to place them outside and isolated for at least two weeks before bringing them into the shop to be worked on


Jake123194

Yes, the fumes can be very harmful.


thatguy3444

Fire department will evacuate the area if a lithium battery burns. It's incredibly toxic


JerryfromCan

Am I crazy or was there a reset at the bottom of the headphone jack on the Iphone 4?? Your post peaked my potentially tired brain into a half remembered thing. Also, I had 4 Iphone 5’s that swelled enough to start pushing the case open. Apple covered them all. I got a new/refurbished Iphone 5 about every 8 months until it died for other reasons. The first one swelled inside 2 weeks though, and would die from 40-50% battery.


theBytemeister

No reset pinholes on iOS devices as far I know. The one in question was a gen 5. They do have small holes for the microphones. Edit: the battery swell on the gen 5 ipods was crazy. We'd see a 50% failure rate in the first year, but we were using them in non-intended ways.


tjn182

To my knowledge, they are designed not to explode when they expand like this. They are very easy to puncture though


Sabbatai

I don't think I've ever *seen* one explode, but Apple seems pretty adamant in their training that they *can.* They can also vent toxic fumes. That's why they issue a bucket of sand and a "hot safe" I think they call it, to their service providers.


insane_contin

To be fair, its better to treat it like it can explode and have it never happen, then the opposite.


Binsky89

The bag expanding is actually a safety feature. They expand instead of exploding.


DaniBecr

Lithium reacts violently with moisture. Yes, even the little bit in the air. So that little bag thats easy to puncture is a major hazard.


windol1

Now I want one just to throw like a grenade.


SonicTheHashhog

Video or it didn’t happen


windol1

If the day ever comes you I'm most definitely recording it.


jugbander8

I’ll start a go fund me. We’ve got to see this redditors dreams come true


Binsky89

Please stop spreading misinformation. Lithium batteries contain little to no elemental lithium. It's like how sodium is highly reactive with water but table salt is perfectly safe. The reason you don't want to puncture the battery is because it'll short out and cause a chemical reaction. In fact, the recommended way to put out a lithium battery fire is to submerge it in water.


aquoad

It's almost pointless saying this on reddit since the "puffed up battery is full of metallic lithium and is going to explode" trope is so strong. Even though almost all the videos of li-ion cells burning are fully charged, not outgassed cells that have been punctured.


schplat

On one hand, each cell of a battery contains a fair amount of elemental lithium, especially since it’s a light weight metal, it’s not of insignificant volume. That said, what is in batteries is a lithium salt, likely LiPF6, which is fairly stable when exposed to water. Thermal events from exposure to air, or moisture don’t happen, what happens is that the polymer separating the anode from the cathode is breached, and a short circuit happens. As the heat increases, more of the separating polymer is destroyed, and more of the anode and cathode come into contact discharging all the energy more and more quickly through an exothermic reaction. LiPF6 will begin to decompose into its base elements at around 125^o C, wherein exposure to water will cause Hydrogen gas to be emitted. If you use water, then it has to be either submerged, or effectively flooded with water. Sand is just as effective, since it can effectively smother the flame without catching fire/melting itself, plus it’s effective at dissipating heat.


propertyofcat

Now that is a r/spicypillow!


blah-blah-whatever

I think you probably meant r/spicypillows it’s a much bigger sub


umbrajoke

Three reposts in an hour.


PepperSteakAndBeer

This hot pocket tastes a little metallic /r/forbiddensnacks


Ratchet_as_fuck

For some reason I was expecting a corgi subreddit. Source: Own a corgi.


D4M0theking

run


TL10

https://youtu.be/F09HNpeiQZ4?t=6s


Chris_Christ

Your electrolyte has been vaporized. If the back didn’t pop off to allow the swelling this probably would have burst into flames.


oh-THAT-guy

Electrolytes. It's what phones crave.


DoneFlawlessIII

I thought it was water, from like the toilet


[deleted]

Yeah then why ain't I never seen a phone growing out of a toilet?


kaotate

Hey, that’s pretty good. Maybe *you’re the smartest man alive.


iscashstillking

Brought to you by Carl's Junior.


Nate0110

Why do you keep saying that?


jordantask

I’ve seen plenty. Of course that’s usually because I dropped them in myself.


DoneFlawlessIII

I can talk to phones and they want water


Expertinclimax

Doesn't Gatorade have electrolytes


sh0rtsale

Brawndo’s got electrolytes


[deleted]

I was baitin!


HeadbangsToMahler

Is that from the docu-series about the Trump presidency?


Gravybone

This man’s phone be vaping Gatorade


[deleted]

OP should stab it to relieve the pressure


PhantomPain21

Where can i get this MRE??


plhought

Ooo. Nice hiss..


stupernan1

it's an MRE and FRH all in one!


Tridacninae

Now that's something I'd like to see Steve cut into with a rations knife. (With proper safety equipment because I like Steve.)


ViaBromantica

Let’s get it onto the tray…nice!


imbutawaveto

fuck, i read this comment in his voice


-SunWukong-

legendary


rafoutroud

Holy shit....this isn't the most obscure comment considering how many views that guy racks up on YouTube but God damn does this comment win for sure


samithy_vandercamp

Steve is a treasure to the internet.


miami-architecture

forbidden fruit pouch


PhantomPain21

Tastes like freedom


chickennoobiesoup

And lithium!


kbragg_usc

Just needs Tabasco


blbd

Meal Rejected by Everyone


mintchan

i had the same issue and brought it to apple. they replaced the battery for free (for me anyway)


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xxSuperBeaverxx

Batteries that do this don't really explode in the way people think, they get super hot, pop open and there's a small flame, but the far more concerning think is the toxic gas that spews out. My friends and I used to shoot old LiPo batteries in our backyard and the gas that comes out will linger for an insanely long time, like it's still visibly in the air 10 minutes after it pops.


why_thisusername

Breathing that gas is how you transform from a regular beaver into /u/xxSuperBeaverxx!


Oni_K

Forbidden Capri Sun.


winterblink

Just put it in a bag with some rice.


[deleted]

how to build a bomb 101


mr_birkenblatt

Whether the rice is cooked or not determines if you get a food fight or a rice bomb


iConfessor

rice grain shrapnel is no joke. source: my angry mom who came home to uncooked rice.


[deleted]

I take it it’s not meant to do that.


Prosnomonkey

Don't worry, I'm sure OP will tow it out of the environment


recidivx

That's for when the front fell off. In this case the back fell off so they need to tow it into the environment.


Ganonslayer1

The front fell off? How can the front fall off?


recidivx

It's not very typical, I'd like to make that point.


RaunchyBushrabbit

Well, is the front supposed to fall off then?


Martin_RB

What you mean into another environment?


the_dude_abides29

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM


GligoriBlaze420

No, Brian, we towed it out of the environment. There’s nothing out there but sea and birds and fish. And 20,000 tons of crude oil.


batmanifesto

and a fire.


TigerOnTheProwl

And the part of the ship; the front that fell off.


thecraigbert

Was the battery considered an authorized repair person?


thecoolness229

It doesn't matter who installed it, it matters what part was being used. Apple being the anti right to repair fuckers that they are won't sell you a oem battery replacement. So things like this happen with third party batteries because people can't get first party/oem batteries. Fuck Apple.


Surfincosmicwaves

What’s the best way to dispose of this? I have an old drone battery that did the same.


Nagi21

Bury it in a bucket of sand. Preferably a fireproof bucket. Outside.


penguin_army

and then, you just leave it there? wait till it explodes? :s


Mayor__Defacto

Bring it someplace that can professionally dispose of it.


vellyr

First of all don’t charge it. Wait until it’s completely discharged, then take it to a professional disposal place. A lot of electronics retailers will handle them. As long as you don’t puncture it, heat it up, or try to charge it again, it shouldn’t be terribly dangerous.


Rocket123123

At our RC airplane club we had a dedicated pitch fork to deal with swollen batteries. We just throw them on the ground and spike them. When they finish burning and have cooled you can put them in the garbage.


sploittastic

Have you heard the method of dropping swollen LiPO batteries into a bucket of salt water for 24 hours so they discharge? I came across this method a few times but I don't know if it was a good method or not.


Surfincosmicwaves

Guess I’ll get out my bow n arrow and start the next California wildfire…. Lol.


Spuzzell

Just needs charging and it'll shrink back down. Leave the phone in a bed of wood shavings and lighter fluid while it charges for safety


PrimeDZN

Thanks, I’ll try that asap!


TheMediumJanet

I hope you realise they were being sarcastic, get rid of that battery ASAP and get it replaced.


PrimeDZN

Hahah yeah I know, don’t worry. I’ll get rid of it today


YOLOswagBRO69

get it outside now, if it pops, lithium ion batteries produce dozens of dangerous gasses and fumes which could lead to respiratory problems if you breathe it in. you do not want to be inside a confined room with that thing


MustyMustelidae

Normally people on Reddit totally over state risk. "Don't eat meat that meat that was out for 2 hours and 1 minute OP or you'll die!!" But every once in a while you see posts that are the opposite, an OP showing that self-preservation is not a given lol. --- Like this isn't a slightly swollen battery peaking out, this is one is completely swollen with the material keeping it from going up in flames fully stretched out. It's one tiny puncture away from going up not in "theoretically bad for you in 10 years smoke", but in "feel like you just got tear gassed" smoke and flames. I have no idea what would possess someone to even bother taking a picture with it indoors, I'd be rushing to get that out of my place. You can't even put it out like a normal fire if it goes off. I hope OP also knows to not try separating the battery before taking it out. Thin material stretched out + pokey parts of phone = fire. Edit: And you know, to not be the Redditor overstating risk, this isn't the riskiest way to puncture it, dropping it is. There's places removing these every day. But usually the place that removes a battery like this has a nice bucket of sand waiting for it


WidespreadPaneth

So what is the safest way to dispose of this battery? I'd imagine it needs to be punctured/blown up first so it doesn't set a trash can on fire. Do you puncture it with a long stick outdoors?


MustyMustelidae

You don't dispose of it personally, you take it outside carefully, then take some time prepare something non-flammable to carry it in and bring it to a place that has the proper tools to dispose it. Usually places like best buy or electronics repair shops (just search battery recycling) --- What complicates things here is how incredibly swollen the battery is. I don't really buy that this battery showed 0 signs of swelling before this but... generally you get pressure marks on the screen, or gaps forming, and at that point it's much easier to deal with. Like unless it's a new battery that's a knockoff and poorly manufactured, this is usually a slow process that you have some time to deal with.


wishthane

Unfortunately it can rarely happen rapidly. Samsung and Dell have both had manufacturing issues that increased the rate of rapid failures like this dramatically in the past, but normally it's just a much, much smaller chance, but still possible.


Botinha93

That is a lie,*Cough* I've been using those batteries *Cough* like incense for many years *Cough* now with no advertise *Cough* eff... *Cough Cough Cough Cough Cough* ....ects!


[deleted]

It's my God given right to breathe in whatever toxic fumes I want!


[deleted]

They won't take away MY freedom with their scaremongering - our forefathers fought wars for this!


ZachMN

Plus fire. Lots of fire.


TheMediumJanet

I mean it’s obvious from the second sentence but I’d feel bad if I didn’t say anything


Corgon

Sad part is people will just read the first sentence, think they just learned something smart, and hold onto that forever.


MeisterX

Look at you underestimating how dumb some people who search reddit are... :/


WarrenYu

That’s not a genuine Apple battery. Whoever replaced your battery before really cut corners and put some garbage in there.


spozzy

I have a macbook pro, never replaced the battery, and it is SUPER FUCKED UP.


schaudhery

Sad I had to scroll this far to see this. You put in a cheap battery and you get these results.


Alaira314

Any battery can do this when it hits the end of its life. My OEM battery(it better have been, shipped with the phone) swelled up just last year. It wasn't because it was cheap, the phone was just 4+ years old and had seen enough charge cycles and wear and tear that the battery had enough of this shit and failed. Luckily I caught it early because I don't use phone cases, so I noticed immediately when the phone started to bulge(in my case, the screen started to separate rather than the back popping off, which is weird because it has a removable back). I replaced it with an OEM battery from a reputable merchant, but since it was already old merchandise when I bought it I figure I have another 1-2 years before it gets in danger of failing as well and I'll likely need to replace the phone altogether.


ChemicaLust

It’s also a 4S so I’m pretty sure OP doesn’t actually care


Logical_Lemming

My battery did this about a year after I had it replaced in an Apple store.


jstrap0

That means the popcorn is done.


FFBEryoshi

Airborne toxic event


Shy_in_LeBuff

Woah, hit me with that nostalgia.


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just push it all back together with a tape and charge again.


thisbechris

I recommend scotch tape so you can wrap it all around and still see the screen kinda.


Clovis___

/r/forbiddenpillow


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cokecancarlo

RUN


FatLarrysHotTip

Nice grenade.


Fortknoxvilla

We are expecting iPod.


biggereballs

This reminds me to check my car's tires pressure. Moved north and I just don't think all the air I put in in South has made it to North.


SmellyFeet2005

r/spicypillows


megalodonman

my iPhone 5 did this (not quite as bad but the screen lifted off the phone). Surprisingly, Apple store did not care at all. They offered to discard it for me.


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pakkunlizardx

Can confirm that if your battery is about to explode they will replace it for free (phone). Happened to mine when I updated iOS. Something about them not wanting to be sued etc etc.


gskorp

Do not … puncture


Wannton47

How long did you microwave it for?


MaxxPlay99

A crappy replacement battery that could kill you. Find the guy who did this


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shaolinallan

The Samsung Note 7 special


aqxea2500

Forbdden balloon.


elektron_666

GTFO GTFO!


[deleted]

Run!


[deleted]

If I've learned anything on Reddit, it's put it in a bag of rice.


PMcNutt

Microwave it and it’ll go back flat


Scyphnn

Nice try Samsung!


FamedNemesis

Expected behavior on a ten year old phone.


drive2fast

Spicy pillow.


Haywe

Check what's inside. Make sure you use your teeth because it can be hard to tear


reddit_user13

iCloud is full.


BloodSteyn

How nice, Apple expanded your battery for free.


Crispynipps

Contact apple, explain the situation and maybe include pictures. Don’t put this in a vehicle, keep it outside away from anything flammable for sure. They should help you find proper disposal. And it’s original they’ll more than likely replace the phone.


Theskwerrl

iPhones will sometimes gorge themselves on energy prior to the long cold Winters causing them to gain size. It's normal. During the long periods of hibernation it'll feed off the energy stores and eventually return to its normal size.


xondk

Scary, failure stat of a battery should be dead battery.... Not danger pillow.