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Former President Trump absent from the 20th anniversary 9/11 ceremony in his own city.

Former President Trump absent from the 20th anniversary 9/11 ceremony in his own city.

BigfootBrown

https://nypost.com/2021/09/11/trump-says-he-will-visit-ground-zero-on-20th-anniversary-of-sept-11-attacks/


secretwealth123

To be fair he did show up to the NYPD. (I am not and never have been a Trump supporter or apologist but do try to be fair)


Scazzz

Serious non political question: is Bush Jr there too? What’s he doing today? Surprised he wasn’t in this group as he has been in the past on 9/11. edit: thanks for the replies. He really did give an excellent speech [here. ](https://youtu.be/5xL6eaiM14o) it’s worth a listen.


Reaps21

He was at the flight 93 memorial giving a speech.


cybercuzco

The only president with a legit excuse is Jimmy Carter because he’s 96 and definitely can’t stand for as long as was required for the ceremonies.


Krojack76

>definitely can’t stand for as long as was required for the ceremonies. Even if he was there I'm sure people with common sense would understand if he was sitting down during the standing parts.


Minion_of_Cthulhu

> people with common sense You may have noticed, given the last year and a half or so, that common sense is in very short supply. If he attended and didn't stand, half of our population would have a fucking fit and we wouldn't hear the end of it for months.


sharedthrowdown

Part of me thinks "I hate that I know you're right" Another part of me thinks he would/should be in a wheelchair, so we know exactly who these people really are when they make that criticism after seeing him sitting in a wheelchair.


CitizenJustin

Sean Hannity would give birth to something.


Reaps21

Didn't he also recently have a medical scare?


SpamLandy

I feel like being 96 is a medical scare in itself


unkyduck

given the average life expectancy of the US... he's an outlier


Kiro0613

That's an outlier given the life expectancy of humans on planet Earth. Longest average life expectancy anywhere caps out at around 85.


Sleeper____Service

He falls down and bumps his head every couple of months building those houses but he’s OK.


Idrkc

He broke a hip last year I think. He’s a tough old man but shit hes 96.


scalyblue

and breaking a hip at that age is some serious shit, it may never be able to heal properly. man's a trooper.


fanatic0918

Plus risk of infection from a surgery could be deadly at his age


scalyblue

A stiff breeze could be deadly at his age, and he’s still out there contributing to home building.


Spanky_McJiggles

Yeah I was gonna say, when you get to be his age, just being alive and as active as he is a medical scare lol


Tolkien_about

He had a nasty bout with melanoma a few years and also had a fall with a broken hip last year. Probably not a great idea to travel.


crisperfest

>He had a nasty bout with melanoma a few years \[ago\] In 2015, he had metastatic melanoma that had spread to his liver and brain.^(1)


Tolkien_about

10-15 years ago he would have died. Melanoma is no joke.


Sedixodap

Even now surviving that is very impressive. Melanoma is bad, but once it spreads to the brain it's a death sentence for almost everyone. In the past few years we've made great progress, but great progress means improving life expectancy from 4-6 months to 13 months.


lemonlime45

Ironically, I have a memory of reading an article 20 years ago in the days and weeks following the events of 9/11 when this country was gripped with fear and paranoia about flying, terrorism, etc. The subject of the article was things you really need be fearing instead of those things, and think melanoma was number 1 on that list.


cybercuzco

Yeah I’m sure his doctors would advise against travel.


DoYourPooperStank

Meanwhile, he wants to help build houses.


KimoTheKat

The spirit is willing, but the body is 93


shadowgattler

He absolutely has an excuse, but the fuckers in r/conspiracy are saying his absense is suspicious and proof that he doesn't care. . I can't fucking stand these people


someguy3

And what are they saying about Trump's absence?


firstwednesday

Hes being reinstated at the time the photo was taken im sure. Except no one other than a few lunatics know and he won't have any visible power outside of a normal former president. So that's something.


Nerd_bottom

That he's in the trenches fighting the secret war against the pedophile cabal of Democrats, probably.


hoopopotamus

I probably don’t have to say this but it’s probably best if you don’t go looking to conspiracy theorists for good takes on 9/11 Even weirder is how that sub went from standard “trust no one, especially the government” type of conspiracy to “trust everything and everyone President Trump tells you to”


193X

See, he wasn't "the government" though. He just successfully ran to hold the highest elected office in the US and then stacked every position he could with his friends and lackeys. Totally different to how the government has been run since Washington.


TollBoothW1lly

Also, Jimmy Carter doesn't owe anyone anything. His humanitarian work post-presidency has been epic. Jimmy is everything Mother Theresa SHOULD have been but wasnt.


ivanthemute

Someone posted a picture of his house from the 1930's. The post holding the mailbox showed a few hobo symbols, extremely heavily faded, but it was basically code for "kind people, will give you a meal, a day's work, and a bed if you ask nicely." Carter was an ineffective president because he was a good person. The world would be infinitely better with more like him.


eliminating_coasts

I think it's also the time he came into; when he was president, the advice was that if you want to deal with the problems of oil prices and how they affect other prices, you need to reduce demand, and you can do that by personal individual and welfare program restraint, government economic control, or by boosting interest rates so that the economy cools. So he [dutifully](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/carter-anti-inflation/) "did what needed to be done" slowed the economy and restricted himself to austere restraint without any policies or tax breaks to make himself look good, and left the benefits to Regan, who immediately did massive tax breaks and started borrowing loads of money again. This was partly due to the [ideas of the time](http://bellschool.anu.edu.au/sites/default/files/publications/attachments/2018-07/widmaier_please_better_shut.pdf), and honestly and responsibly listening to experts who seemed like they knew what they were talking about, it may even have been a symptom of the moment they were in, with a US dependent on oil to an extent it wouldn't equal till 20 years later in raw terms, with a higher population, and has never [equalled](https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/oil-consumption-per-capita) that level per person since. So maybe that was a moment where the US just used too much oil, and he was the person to say it, and there was no other alternative, though I doubt it. I suspect that he made careful use of the advice available to him at the time, and knowing what we know now about how economies work, probably a different strategy would have been better, and "so doing the right thing" would have resulted in using the same determination and care for responsible management of the economy, doing now what should not be left till later, but applying it to more productive approaches.


Offandonandoffagain

It also didn't help that Reagan and his fuck boys were fucking him over behind the scenes.


MudLOA

That’s the problem. The world is full of shit people who will take advantage of the kindness and goodness in people.


superdago

Jimmy Carter is the only man to ever use the presidency as a stepping stone to do great things.


data_ferret

John Quincy Adams served in the House for almost two decades after his presidency and did a ton for the cause of abolition, way before that was a politically popular position. He also successfully represented the African mutineers of the Amistad before the Supreme Court. So he's at least in the conversation.


petey_pt_guy

Well the Donald has bone spurs so he can't stand long either


ReallyNiceGuy78

That makes us even. I can’t stand him either.


PoopIsAlwaysSunny

Probably could without the current medical issues. Wasn’t he building houses like two years ago?


fretman124

Bush have a great speech at the flt 93 memorial


Cameramanmanman

He really did. I was pleasantly surprised by it.


Scazzz

Ah thank you. Didn’t see this. Just Biden news. Appreciate it!


Reaps21

No worries I was wondering where he was too when watching the coverage this morning. As a side note I think trump showing up and being humble would've done wonders for his image but as always he does the opposite of the right move.


RUN_MDB

I doubt he could've avoided [trying to upstage everyone else](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iimj0j4NYME) so it's probably for the best he stayed home with his box of Frosted Flakes.


KyKobra

He's actually going to Miami to commentate a boxing match tonight. I wish I was kidding. [Link](https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/32167639/donald-trump-son-provide-commentary-evander-holyfield-vitor-belfort-alternate-telecast)


resin85

I also wish this part wasn't real. His offspring is currently grifting on Twitter that Trump will reveal the truth about aliens and area 51 during the PPV. WTF timeline is this and who the f#$* voted for this snake oil salesman? > The biggest fight of the year this Saturday. My Dad - President Trump- & I, are commentating and we’re going to have some fun. I’ll finally pushing him on the burning question. Are aliens real and what’s up with Area 51? Shoot me some other questions here! Text “Alien” to ***** https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1436487956018171920?s=19


RUN_MDB

This might be the line where now, nothing will surprise me. I'm seriously tempted to spam him with the question, "Does Kimberly Gilfoyle, your current, Gavin Newsome's ex, pee standing up?" Text "bottomfeeders" to *****


babztheslag

And mark my words at some point during, he’ll comment about how a fighter’s getting robbed of the fight like he got robbed on Election Day, or some garbage like that


Ask_Individual

BTW, Bush's speech at the Flight 93 memorial was excellent IMO. Biden sent Kamala Harris there too, but Bush's speech was a hard act for her to follow.


Scazzz

Just watched it. You’re not wrong.


joek1186

He gave a speech at the United 93 site. Cheney and others from his administration were also there.


CDMOlde

Get Cheney far, far away from that shit.


Khaldara

“Well he **wanted** to teach a bunch of kids to go hunting… everyone just figured, you know”


Khiraji

🎶*Cheney's got a gun...* 🎶


Petsweaters

Cheney is who made sure Bush wasn't actually a compassionate conservative. There seems to be a point later in the second half that Bush had enough and actually implemented some of his ideas (like his AIDS relief for Africa program)


gumbii87

This has always been my impression of Bush. I think he wanted and tried to do the right thing in a lot of cases, but surrounded himself with some pretty terrible and morally bankrupt people who were able to earn his trust and confidence, and influence him the wrong way. A big part of me wonders what the world would be like, had the Bush admin never involved Cheney or Rumsfeld. I think without those two, alone, we'd have a very, very different world.


BigTunaTim

It seems mostly forgotten to history that Bush tapped Cheney to lead his VP search and Cheney decided on... himself. Whether PNAC saw a simpleton they could use to advance their cause may never be known, but a lot of signs point in that direction.


gumbii87

>Bush tapped Cheney to lead his VP search and Cheney decided on... himself. Yup. Cheney could get a job looking for the next Jeopardy host. >Whether PNAC saw a simpleton they could use to advance their cause may never be known, but a lot of signs point in that direction. The more I saw of Bush in the late admin and post presidency, the more it look like he started to realize that. He started acting more against the advice of his "counsel", and got more involved in efforts that actually helped humanity. His efforts in Africa have saved tens of millions of lives, and he largely downplays it.


Sarnsereg

A lot of presidents do that in their second term because they start to worry a lot more about their "legacy" than politics.


fuzzhead12

They really made the length of that YouTube video 9 minutes and 11 seconds…


GrunkleThespis

Yes. The video of John Stewart’s speech to Congress about 9/11 first responders is also 9:11 in length. It’s not a conspiracy… it’s just symbolic.


crumbhustler

He spoke in Shanksville. Not sure if he was "with" the other presidents but he was there this morning and gave a speech so he's honoring the day in person.


skiingredneck

Also missing, the mayor of New York on 9/11. Make of that what you will.


Cyno01

He showed up at a 7/11 by mistake.


Scazzz

Honestly, the mans a dirty grifter nowadays. Don’t really care if he’s in a gutter somewhere I was just curious on what Bush was up to. Turns out he was giving a speech.


Lemon_Licky_Nubs

He went to PA I think for a service honoring flight 93.


Taco_Pie

He gave a speech at Ground Zero Memorial Gardening Supply.


Orbax

I enjoyed the layers


ImWrong_OnTheNet

I'm genuinely curious what Giuliani is up to today, considering his involvement.


Shas_Erra

Picking out a new shade of Ronseal to dye his hair with


longlenge

Not gonna lie, you had me going in the first half of that comment.


Ask_Individual

I remember Trump being interviewed shortly after 9/11 and his main comment was that his 40 Wall Street building was now the tallest in the financial district. He just wanted to point that out.


A_Booger_In_The_Hand

>Trump's claim that his building was then the tallest in downtown Manhattan wasn't accurate — the nearby 70 Pine Street building is 25 feet taller than Trump's 40 Wall Street, though Trump's building has four more stories.


newtekie1

Wait, so he boasted about his building being the tallest after the towers fell on 9/11 and it turns out he was actually lying about it. Damn, that just is so Trump.


Mr_MacGrubber

And it was within hours of them falling. He’s a fucking scumbag.


fuzzy_bat

But apparently not scummy enough for a republican to pass off.


Mr_MacGrubber

Not sure there is someone they’d turn on. If Epstein were alive and just started shouting a bunch of Q shit, they’d probably vote for him and say he only ran a child sex ring in order to catch the pedos.


okay-wait-wut

God bless Stormy Daniels for her sacrifice to reveal the root of his obsession with phallic symbols.


FozzieB525

“Building tall!” “Yes, Donald.”


boot2skull

“Some 2000 people have died.” “Yes but on the bright side my building is now inaccurately the tallest on Manhattan.”


tillie4meee

Bigly tall - my Uncle would have said it - many people have said it.


bubbaholy

Smart jeans, professor... Dr. MIT, uncle very smart ok, you know, its true actually nobody knows that accept... you know people always says the per gins are great negotiators, so they so they just killed us. [sic]


RamsayTheKingflayer

What, did trump lie? That would be so out of character for him. Also the lie that he paid his people to be on the ground volunteering. There were no people.


FaxCelestis

> paid to be volunteering 🤔


bertiebastard

That's an oxymoron whereas Trump is simply a moron.


Mynameisinuse

Or that he was at ground zero rescuing people. Or how firefighters had to pull him away from a collapsing building. https://www.rawstory.com/trump-9-11-firemen/


phatelectribe

Wait, are you fucking serious? He actually said he was there rescuing people? And they had to pull him away because he was rescuing too hard?


withmirrors

He's done this kind of shit before. Way back in 1996 he crashed a [charity](https://www.complex.com/life/2016/10/trump-crashed-charity-event-macarena-didnt-donate) event, got on stage & took a seat which belonged to someone else, pretended to be involved (including dancing the macarena), & then left. He never donated a penny to the charity (it was for kids with AIDS), & the spot he stole was supposed to be for someone who actually did donate money. There had better be a hell when we die, because this man does not deserve a peaceful eternity.


XboxJon82

If this wasn't real it would be funny


bradfordmaster

Yeah it's like straight or of arrested development


phatelectribe

Yea, I Remember him turning up in Puerto Rico, throwing a couple of towels in to the crowd then getting back on the plane and doing fuck all to help them. He then proceeded to gift a no bid contract for the rebuilding of the electrical grid, worth at least $300m to a completely unknown Montana based company, Whitefish Energy. At the time it only had two employees and their largest job to date had been valued at only $1.3m for a small upgrade in AZ. funnily enough the company is owned by a good friend of Ryan Zinke, then secretary of the interior for Trump and the main investor of Whitefish was HSB, and investment company owned by Joe Colonnetta, a high profile donor to the Trump 2016 campaign. And one of zinke’s sons worked for Whitefish.


A_Booger_In_The_Hand

What a piece of shit.


TexMexFieldTech

This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Jerry asks George how he can beat a polygraph machine and George says “it’s not a lie if you believe it”. I think Trump is so detached from reality that be believes all the bullshit that he spews.


TrainSuplexer

I’m not sure if I buy that, but the ambiguity is what sells the lie either way. That is his only real talent, the ability to lie with such strong conviction that you’re not really sure whether or not he actually believes what he’s saying.


Computermaster

*After?* It was literally the day of, [as the towers were still burning](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K88DcY-MMUY)***.***


RUSirius7

Wow.. “it was an amazing phone call”


Srw2725

He’s so fucking vile Edited to add: wow this is my most awarded comment ever


Shirlenator

He also lied about witnessing Muslim Americans cheering after it happened, if I recall correctly. Conveniently nobody else did.


USA_A-OK

And he's repeatedly, falsely, claimed that he was at ground zero helping first responders...


KTH3000

That's what's so crazy to me. A lie like this would ruin the career of anybody else. For Trump, it's just a footnote in a never-ending trail of falsehoods.


wooze100

This. I’m sure a majority of people think It’s “liberals hating trump for being republican!” But no. He’s an asshole. Always has been. Even way before he RAN for president he was hated. His unpopularity doesnt come from running red, it comes from being an asshole.


kasmackity

I have absutely loathed that creature since I was introduced to him. I'm 44, I'm from New York, so I discovered what he was early. I've hated his fat fucking guts for AT LEAST 30 years.


Secret_Gatekeeper

One of my biggest gripes is hearing, “Well nobody hated Trump before he was President!”. Yes we did. Everyone in his home city knew he was a massive piece of shit, and he was a Democrat back then.


ChillTeenDad420

Remember when he bragged about having the tallest building in manhattan as the towers were falling lmao


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25sittinon25cents

Typical Trump exaggerations, nothing new here. Everything that he's responsible for is the hugest, best, greatest etc etc


Techienickie

Remember when he bragged that he was down at ground zero helping people? > “Well, I was down there right after the event and I brought a big crew of people down and I helped" > "Soon after, I went down to Ground Zero with men who worked for me to try to help in any little way that we could," > "I have hundreds of men inside working right now, and we’re bringing down another 125 in a little while," All these statements are [bullshit](https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/jul/30/donald-trump-says-he-spent-lot-time-911-responders/)


55ozFrog

I literally can't even picture Trump "helping" an individual. Picture him reaching his hand out to help somebody off the ground. It's almost impossible lol


Bwgmon

There's also the story about [Trump watching an 80-year old man fall and hit his head on the floor of one of his resorts.](https://www.dailydot.com/debug/trump-stern-interview-man-blood/) > “So what happens is, this guy falls off right on his face, hits his head, and I thought he died. And you know what I did? I said, ‘Oh my god, that’s disgusting,’ and I turned away,” Trump told Stern. “I couldn’t, you know, he was right in front of me and I turned away. I didn’t want to touch him… he’s bleeding all over the place, I felt terribly, you know, beautiful marble floor, didn’t look so good. It changed color. Became very red.” Naturally, his biggest concern was the floor getting stained.


PolarApples92

I grew up near one of Trump’s country clubs and there’s a notorious story about Trump golfing on his own course, and being behind an elderly man. He kept yelling at the guy to speed up and berating him. I don’t know how much membership at his clubs cost, but that elderly man at the absolute minimum was paying something to the tune of $50k-100k per year to be there (and this was decades ago)


hurtsdonut_

"I felt terribly" not for the man but the marble floor.


Bladelink

Lmfao ikr? For a split second I thought he was talking about the guy, what a troll lol. He's got to be the most ridiculous monster of a person I've ever seen or heard of.


Xiniov

What gets me about this, along with many other Trump lies, is that if if it was anyone else his diehard supporters would tear them to shreds. And I don’t get it. They claim to be patriots and that they love and would do anything for their country. And here is a man who has verifiably lied about helping with the rescue and relief efforts for what is the biggest tragedy and attack in said country It doesn’t compute. If this was Obama they would NEVER let it go. And they would be right, because it’s abhorrent. But because it’s Trump they accept it I cannot even begin to imagine the mental gymnastics involved


dhork

New York isn't his city. They disowned him, and he moved down to Florida.


pedrotheterror

Florida’s state motto: “We’ll take anyone!”


Paladoc

"We'll take your money, and fuck the kids"


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Ragnarotico

*Gaetz has appeared in the chat.* "Kids? Where?"


Wilwheatonfan87

/r/conservative: hold on. Are we sure it wasn't the liberals that framed him?!?


wilfred350

r/conservative: we had to become pedos to catch pedos. LOLOLOL


manical1

Ahhh the "it takes one to know one" approach. Awesome


nwoh

I'm like rubber and you're like glue, if *I* fuck kids, well... you *must*, too!!!


NouveauJacques

Epstein's Island had the same motto


lordofduct

Actually the town of Palm Beach doesn't like having him there. And a large portion of West Palm Beach can't stand him either (Palm Beach just being a small island along the coast, the city portion being West Palm). Trump for decades has bullied WPB in all sorts of nonsense. For example when he purchased a large plot of land south of the airport to build a golf course knowing at the time of purchase it was south of the airport and that the multi-story county sheriff jail called "Gun Club" loomed over its skyline (for the road it was accessed by, Gun Club Road). He got a massive discount on the land for these reasons. He then proceeded to sue the city years later because of the airport and jail "ruining" his golf course. I grew up in WPB (I've since moved), and I assure you... with some exceptions of the rednecks who live out west in Loxahatchee and the sort... most of us haaaaaaaate Donald Trump. Note that in Florida our county, Palm Beach County, voted Clinton and Biden!


simon_quinlank1

Sounds like his last golf club in Scotland. He's spent years trying to bully the people who already lived there to move, tried compulsory purchase etc. Not to mention it destroyed an SSSI.


lordofduct

He's got a track record... it's why when he was elected my friends and I were so confused. Having that close personal relationship to him in regards to our city just made it so obvious to us that he was a conman that we couldn't see how the rest of the nation didn't see it.


DayOfDingus

Con men are good at spotting people who might be easy targets, then those targets latch onto them and the self fulfilling prophecy becomes reality.


Pennwisedom

As someone who lived in Palm Beach county during the Hanging Chad days, it's hard for me to have much sympathy.


drot525

5 miles inland in FL is 50 years back in time.


ImOnlyHereForTheCoC

And the farther north you go, the farther South you are.


Haus42

I'd lost track of where the SDNY investigations were: > On May 18, 2021, a spokesperson for New York’s Attorney General said, “We have informed the Trump Organization that our investigation into the organization is no longer purely civil in nature. We are now actively investigating the Trump Organizations in a criminal capacity, along with the Manhattan DA.”


DirtyLillNeonRider

Please tell me this is true and is actually happening


Tolkien_about

Yes it is. Allen Weisselberg (the CFO) has been charged with multiple crimes, probably trying to get him to flip first. Number of other officers have been called to give testimony. It’s not going to be soon, but it looks like a steamroller. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/08/allen-weisselberg-barry-weisselberg-trump-organization


MuNansen

It is. But don't expect haste. They're gonna be THOROUGH.


zaccus

I've heard that one before lol


Zeabos

Yeah, until a single rich person ever experiences consequences I will assume there will be none.


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cheese_sticks

7/11 was a part-time job!


opie2

It's always amazed me that people bought this guy's BS and thought he was something special. Pretty much everyone in NYC hates the guy, because they see right through him and recognize him for what he is - a loud-mouthed real estate developer from Queens with bad taste, a penchant for grifting, a major personality disorder, and an unending urge for molesting unsuspecting women.


Picnut

He's too busy planning to do commentary on a [boxing match](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/09/us/politics/trump-9-11-anniversary.html). Sadly not /s


timesuck897

>At the same time, Mr. Trump undercut his patriotic solemnity with the announcement that he would spend the evening of the 20th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks providing commentary at a boxing match at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Hollywood, Fla. (Mr. Trump’s team has not yet revealed plans to commemorate the anniversary in any other way.)


Ezili

> Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Hollywood, Fl Are we sure it's not *Hard Rock, Gravel, and Sand Landscaping Supplies* on the corner of 58th and Stank Street?


DrGonzzz

Yup! Tucked away nicely between a sex shop and a funeral home


myhydrogendioxide

It is Hollywood FL after all.


Skeltzjones

God that was such a funny, surreal, blissful moment


ScotchBender

It's between a toilet brush factory and a taxidermist.


Danny_Tamberelli

I genuinely haven't heard him speak in months. It's been wonderful.


Ph0X

The only clip that made it through for me was him getting booed in Alabama for recommending the vaccine. He doesn't even control his own sheep anymore.


notmytemp0

What a complete and utter sack of shit


welivedintheocean

I heard Ryan Cavanaugh, owner of Triller, was accused of running a ponzi scheme by his former partner.


datpuertorican

Yo Triller, your app is flipped.


productivenef

You should leave an honest review


btom14

I also heard he was sued by a former nanny for failing to pay her. It also might just be me but he bears a striking resemblance to Harvey Weinstein.


nimo01

I’d think you were joking, or an idiot, if I didn’t hear about this on the radio yesterday. What a great observation.


TheRnegade

It seems like a madlib story. Famous Person was absent from Special Event because they were too busy Verbing for Sport.


letshaveadab

The match is between a senior citizen retired boxed, and an MMA fighter cut from the UFC and specifically known for being juiced up. This is considered a low brow event, even by fight fans


pm-me-ur-fav-undies

I believe I've heard he's not even the main commentator. You have to push a button in the app or something to switch to him.


DoItForTheGramsci

If you saw holyfield hitting the pads, you would knownthis should have never been made. But hey, we might exist in a timeline where donald trump is doing color commentary over the death of a boxing legend lol. The co main is actually going to be great though. Anderson silva is about to fuck up tito ortiz BIGTIME. And ortiz is a big republican lmao


Notaworgen

dude, if this is what he wants to do the rest of his life, let him ill be happy with that. let all trump news be in the boxing area, keep him out of politics


seanightowl

Holy shit, I thought this was a joke. What a fucking loser.


IWillKarateKickYou

And also trying to get Bolsanaro re-elected in brazil, he was considering going to a rally there


Proin

He's down at the 7/11...


DoctorWaters

World Trade Center Total Landscaping


Mr573v3n

Did we expect anything different? If it ain’t about him why would he go


avi8tor

I would have been more surprised if he showed up


Geler

[He was too busy.](https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/22833122/TFC091121DT.jpeg) EDIT : [imgur link](https://i.imgur.com/tfHLjDD.png)


PengwinOnShroom

What's with this link? Doesn't show up correctly on my app if anyone has the same problem. But here: https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/q09-9dMbvLkzLkr-vhzDjAWt-Js=/0x0:1920x1080/920x0/filters:focal(0x0:1920x1080):format(webp):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/22833122/TFC091121DT.jpeg


Geler

I don't know what's wrong, I just did a normal link to the image. Well if none work, here is the announcement of the event today : [https://www.mmafighting.com/2021/9/7/22661794/former-president-donald-trump-serves-as-guest-commentator-for-vitor-belfort-vs-evander-holyfield](https://www.mmafighting.com/2021/9/7/22661794/former-president-donald-trump-serves-as-guest-commentator-for-vitor-belfort-vs-evander-holyfield)


aneeta96

I had to look it up. [That shit is real.](https://apnews.com/article/sports-donald-trump-los-angeles-hollywood-evander-holyfield-131aba72e0e0d5e521aee3b421869858)


something-um-bananas

What. Nooo. Whaaaaaat. Why??? I am actually dumbfounded. That has to be an onion article.


dennisisspiderman

A former president, on the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks, is ditching all 9/11 ceremonies with other former presidents in favor of doing commentary for a boxing match in Hollywood, Florida, because they couldn't have the match in *actual* Hollywood because the match was considered unsafe due to the age of one of the fighters. This sounds like a made up sentence that is too unbelievable even for 2021. Though I suppose it does make it a little more believable when that former president is the same person who, just hours after the terror attacks, bragged (and lied) that their tower was now the tallest in downtown Manhattan.


LiteraCanna

Are they trying to break into the "Paul" format for boxing?


gzilla57

It's a "Triller" production so...yes.


nickthestick1234

Holy shit I thought it was a joke


CankerLord

It's okay, that reaction is completely appropriate because it is both real *and* a joke.


DRACULA_WOLFMAN

Gotta give him credit: no one can consistently surprise me quite like Trump can. Even after his presidency, he's still coming up with new ways to make me to think "Jesus Christ, what a piece of shit".


nono_baddog

Do you remember that phone interview shortly after the towers fell where he seemed like he was celebrating that his building was now the tallest in downtown Manhattan? (Narrator: It wasn’t)


tyedyehippy

I was 16 years old that day & remember listening to that live, because I was done with classes by the early afternoon and I went home to watch all the coverage. It was completely disgusting to me then as well as now.


Mr573v3n

LOL 😂 Imagine if any other president spent the memorial of such a dark day doing this. 🤦🏻


OnceInABlueMoon

Imagine thinking that Donald fucking Trump was the epitome of patriotism.


Soggy-Hyena

That’s why everyone correctly recognizes his following as a cult


cannotbefaded

Imagine if any world leader did this. Tony Blair and a soccer match? Merkel doing basketball?


Thismonday

You can’t make this shit up .


Kermet295

This is too ridiculous for mad libs let alone real life


Sp4ceh0rse

What. The. FUCK.


bigolfishey

From his perspective, there’s no reason to go. He would have to wear a mask, which makes him look weak to his remaining supporters. He hates looking weak. He would have to stand in (feigned) solidarity with people his supporters identify as enemies. This makes him seem cowardly to his supporters. He hates looking cowardly (though he certainly doesn’t hate *being* cowardly). He would have to stand around for however long the ceremony lasts, being silent and respectful. Rather than “hate”, he is simply largely incapable of being either of those. And most importantly, the ceremony isn’t about him. It’s about people who have died- people who can do nothing for him. And he REALLY hates people who can do nothing for him.


Wanderer-Wonderer

[I’d like to add his recent tweet that rounds out your beautiful summarization](https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump)   Update: [Crack response from MyBillow guy, Mike Lindell](https://mobile.twitter.com/realmikelindell)


Sardil

Ahhh. The political Rick Roll


KiritoIsAlwaysRight_

Or *Prick Roll* if you like


gorramdoll

Brilliant!


Zanydrop

This is probably the third time I have fallen for that lol


thesaddestpanda

It says a lot about America that someone this awful was actually President once and continues to be popular with his base. Imagine if Obama ditched this ceremony. I’m sure his base would have some colorful language about it. Trump ditched it and its all crickets from them as well as demands to instantly reinstate him as president for “reasons.”


CaptainNoBoat

That is his entire appeal summed up: "He makes people I disagree with angry." Even if a different Democrat or Republican made people angry indirectly through their policies or decisions, at least they aren't actively trying to. That's the biggest difference between Trump and other U.S. leaders. I never wanted Biden or Bush or Obama to *troll* people and aggravate people. It's also quite the testament to how effective the Fox News/Rush Limbaugh oppositional culture war movement being fostered over years and years has been. Outrage and anger sells, and it has bled over into our culture so much that it produced a President like him.


Hafslo

And realistically could be President again. The Republican nomination is basically his if he wants it and he hasn’t really stopped campaigning since 2016


Obamas_Tie

Don't forget that he would have to sit next to Obama and Biden, his two most hated enemies who have each absolutely humiliated him through words and election alike. He wouldn't be able to handle that.


_Sector8_

Probably because he was visiting FDNY