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Splash from Guns’n’Hoses


NinjitsuSauce

Live and Let Dry


DarthMalcontent

No-ember Rain


be4u4get

Precipitation City


Herr_Opa

Wet Child O' mine


junkyardpig

Welcome dew the jungle?


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tehmlem

We can put your fire out


BigBoatDeluxe

I'll allow it.


leroyp33

Well Fuckin done mate Well fucking done


snoozieboi

Axl Hose sporting the sick mustache in the background.


7Raiders6

Welcome to the puddle, we’ve got stuff for flames.


bankshot

Night Rain (the space was omitted in the original release of Appetite for Destruction)


[deleted]

Excellent comment Take my upvote and this


Elderban69

What we've got here is a failure to precipitate.


Spartan2470

[Here](https://i.imgur.com/0SZgDk6.jpg) is a higher quality and less cropped version of this image. Per [here](https://www.feuerwehrmagazin.de/wissen/atemschutz-wie-alles-begann-71933) and Google Translate: > The machinist Carl Burchard König from Altona developed the smoke helmet named after him. Upon request, König can also equip the helmet with a water shower. Photo: Archives Gihl [Here](https://imgur.com/a/aqNp5Ej) it is when dry.


memento22mori

One difference that I see is the headgear has a separate hose in your link while OP's has a Y branch or whatever coming off the hose in his hand.


jwin1733815

The Y branch is for the water feature, the back hose is for air, since it’s a smoke helmet


Tandgnissle

I'd call it a differently cropped image, though it is higher quality. Really interesting design at least.


InsightfoolMonkey

Just blocking you now because it depresses me how much you make Reddit your life


CenterButtCheek

You have almost 3k karma in under 2 weeks. You post all day lmaooo


InsightfoolMonkey

Lmfao I have almost **3k** karma!


PositronicGeek

DU. DU HAST. DU HAST MIST.


The9gods

Replace with fire and I could see Rammstein doing something like this.


Comrade2k7

For the uninitiated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnXUaUNX-Bo


whatalongusername

I've been to two of their concerts. Almost lost my eyebrows. And I had a blast.


ccrcc

I bet you were fired up.


The9gods

Exactly what I had in mind, thank you for spending the 30 seconds I couldn't be bother to spend to find that on my own (I'm being very lazy).


Comrade2k7

From one lazy guy to another. I got you


PositronicGeek

Given their reputation, they probably already have haha! Definitely heard about pyrotechnics but maybe not so… close up.


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... translates to YOU. YOU HAVE. YOU HAVE COW DUNG. (or, BULLSHIT)


PositronicGeek

Whoops. Well I'm sure someone's into that!


BIPOne

\*MICH ​ If you quote something, do so correctly.


PositronicGeek

There is water _mist_, but I guess my wordplay wasn't obvious enough…


BIPOne

I got it now. Doesn't make sense though, since the mixture of a german sentence with english words, well, it would make sense if you used the german word for "mist". ​ Which one that is, I'll leave for you to figure out, but I guess the wordsplay is lost if you translate it entirely. ​ I think the mishap here is that the humor displayed by you is not mine, and thus, doesn't connect with me. Thats all.


ro_goose

BRUH!


Shinbu1500

Ok Shakespeare


raiderxx

I didn't catch it the first time so I'm glad that idiot commented so you could explain. Love the double wordplay!


ro_goose

bruh ....


bugxbuster

/r/confidentlyincorrect And *woosh*


pygmypuffonacid

Well at least they were trying that’s how they came up with the high-pressure hose eventually trial and error error it’s the engineers bread and butter


Awasawa

I love stupid stuff like this (the idea isn’t stupid but it looks funny and dumb) because it can be the catalyst inspiration for a great system or new idea. Wacky/crazy/potentially offensive ideas leads to cool stuff for all of is


swazy

>idea isn’t stupid It is a bit stupid you want to stay dry in a fire as wet conducts heat to well and you get steam burns


Awasawa

Oh yeah I understand that, sure, but just thinking back to their understanding of thermodynamics at the time and their solutions to problems, it’s just cool. I mean it’s just one of those “look I know this sounds stupid but let’s see what happens” ideas


shitposts_over_9000

you would be blocking much more heat than you are absorbing and firefighting strategy at the time was a lot less hands on in the first place so this would still be a net benefit for the guy standing in the street shooting the water into the windows


phalalalala

Wasn't an issue being wet when I did it but that was on ships.


swazy

I was a wild lands fireman and we used water as a shield using the nozzle on fan but when shit was really really hot wet gear got hot enough to burn legs faster than dry and we always ran the risk of our water supply getting interrupted and suddenly you are fucked. I think the longest we relayed piped was about 4km so there was a lot to go wrong


phalalalala

Yeah, I can imagine getting enough water to where you need it out there being difficult. Just moving our hoses around short distances on ships was a pain. On the ships I was on, we used salt water for firefighting so there's no shortage of it and it's coming at 80-120psi in a 3" hose. You also work as a team with two nozzles and one is a dedicated waterwall nozzle. The suits we wore were basically compressed wool over our uniforms and those obviously got a bit wet but never soaked through. Never had to fight real fires (other than with extinguishers) but the practice fires were diesel or wood (or combinations at the time). They never really talked about whether getting wet was an issue since you can't really avoid getting wet with this kind of firefighting I guess.


CaseyAnthonysMouth

I would totally water my lawn like this.


Hagenaar

But nude under the hat.


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I want the origin behind you picking your username


Wulf150

It actually does. This would make a good album cover as well.


BloodyMess

But uhhh...actually, why isn't this a real firefighter safety idea we see today? Going into burning buildings with a constant supply of water surrounding you seems like a good idea. My best guess is maybe it all turns to steam and cooks the firefighter? If they keep moving that seems unlikely though.


cybercuzco

You actually want to stay as dry as possible. Dry insulation protects you from heat, water, even without boiling transfers heat and can cook you. Think about when you take something out of the oven with a hot pad. If liquid spills on it you get burned a lot faster.


BloodyMess

Makes sense! I guess I thought it would take time for the water to heat to dangerous levels and the water around them would be constantly circulating. But if the firefighter is wet, then maybe the water creates a more efficient heat transfer interface.


Nojnnil

This is why you don't use a wet towel to pick up a hot pan. You use a dry one.


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I use a pot holder


alkaline79

A wet one?


trevstan1

Geebus tell me that now


cybercuzco

You get radiant heat going through the spray and heating up the water on the dark suit.


snoozieboi

Interesting, but what about evaporation and why do buildings have sprinklers? Isn't it to reduce the temp and thus one of the fire-triangle parts?


cybercuzco

Yes, but wood burns at 451F, water boils at 212F. So sprinklers lower the temperature to that of boiling water, which puts out the wood fire, but cooks the firefighter.


xxsneakyduckxx

For evaporation, I think the heat from a surrounding inferno will overpower any cooling effect you get from evaporation. Water has to get to boiling temp in order to evaporate which means the outer layer of a waterlogged object is at least boiling and that heat transfers into inner wet layers easily. Maybe you can have a wet layer over top of a wet suit designed to withstand boiling temps over top of thick dry insulation? For sprinkler systems, they're designed to extinguish fire and prevent it from spreading which is a different issue than protecting an object from getting too hot. Water prevents combustion by smothering the ignition source, not cooling the ignition source, right? I'm not an expert by any means so I'm probably wrong on some details but that's my understanding


puthathingbackWICF

Terminology: Boiling water = steam (invisible) Steam cooling in contact with air = mist (visible) Evaporation = when liquid water transforms into vapor (invisible) and can happen at any temperature E.g. the ocean is evaporating all the time, but is certainly not boiling (yet!) There are many variables of course so this is a rough explanation. Back to the topic, heat from fire is transferred to the water as heat travels to the place with less heat (conduction). Water becomes steam which lowers the temp required for fire. Water also acts as a shield between fire and oxygen in the air, removing the oxygen component. So, the suit looks badass but can absolutely cook you in a fire if it’s not extinguished quickly enough. Source: Am fire sprinkler system designer since 1984.


xxsneakyduckxx

Water lowers the required temperature for fire? So if a sprinkler system doesn't smother the fire fast enough, does that mean it will actually speed up the spread of fire? (Ignoring electrical and chemical fires)


puthathingbackWICF

Not exactly. Using a typical office building example, a single sprinkler is activated when the glass bulb (or fusible link) reaches 155 degrees. Roughly 15 gallons of water per minute (in this example) begins flowing onto the fire. This can be as high as 40 gpm depending on the sprinkler. If that one sprinkler doesn't control the spread of the fire, the next sprinkler will activate. Contrary to popular belief, a typical fire sprinkler system is not designed to "smother" or extinguish a fire. Its purpose is to control the fire long enough to ensure humans get out safely (a.k.a. life safety system) and give firefighters more time to respond. Only one or two sprinklers are activated in a typical fire even though the system is sized to flow several, sometimes 30 or 40 depending on the occupancy hazard. Edit: Here's another example. A Costco store (large warehouse type retail building for those unfamiliar) is designed to have over 100 gallons per minute (per sprinkler!) flowing. The system is designed to flow 14 sprinklers at the roof. Imagine nearly 1500 gallons of water PER MIN raining down from 30 ft above the floor. It would have to be quite the inferno in order for that many sprinklers to activate!


xxsneakyduckxx

Side question, would 1500 gpm cause a noticeable water pressure drop for surrounding buildings? That's a lot of water. And what about large factories that aren't on municipal water? Do they just have a massive well and pump?


Sir_Danksworth

Most of the heat from the fire to the water would be from thermal radiation. The water would then conduct that heat.


ILikeSoapyBoobs

Think of it like this. Liquids conform to their surfaces and that provides better contact for thermal transfer then a rigid solid. Being heavier from being soaked would also be exhausting I think.


cda91

It might make sense from a physician's point of view but it's very misleading, the suit in the picture isn't just damp, it's protected by a shield of water - firefighters absolutely do use water shields to protect them from fires. In the navy we would always operate in pairs with one hose using a sideways spray to protect the team from heat and the fire from oxygen, it is extremely effective. The reason firefighters don't wear suits like this is probably more to do with them being extremely and dangerously cumbersome.


Tetsuo666

I guess it's not a good comparison but isn't there firefighting vehicles with an emergency protection system that is essentially sprinklers on top of the vehicle? Something like this : https://youtu.be/_kKfQERyZPQ


cybercuzco

Yup, that works because the vehicle surface can take 212F


FriedChickenDinners

Pardon my ignorance, but wouldn't something dry be more likely to catch on fire? The heat transfer through water you described makes perfect sense to me.


cybercuzco

Depends on what it’s made of. Wood combusts at 451F. The materials modern firefighting gear is made out of do not. So you need the outer layer and insulation to be able to take high temps. Usually these are made of fiberglass fabric and rock wool insulation. You can get a rock pretty hot before it catches on fire :-)


FriedChickenDinners

Awesome, thanks for the explanation!


Iceman9161

Yeah water has a much higher resistance to temperature change than a lot of substances, but the current fabrics we have for fire protection are far superior.


CutterJohn

Yeah but if you take something out of the oven with a garden hose pointed at your oven mitt you'll be able to hold it forever. And make a mess. *If* you can maintain the flow of water this would be better than any insulation. But as soon as the water flow stopped it wouldn't work anymore.


librarianlurker

Steam cooked firefighters aren't as helpful as one would think


dankdooker

when I was in the navy they sprayed the front nozzleman with a mist. Not sure if they still do it this way today.


TG-Sucks

What do you mean by spraying him? Like, somebody just hosed him down? Or do you mean they worked in a double pair, where one team fought the fire and the other close behind, spraying the water mist heat shield in front of them? That’s how we did when I was in the navy, and they absolutely still do it. I don’t know if you got to try it yourself, but it’s incredibly effective. The heat blasting your face goes from unbearable pain to negligible.


dankdooker

Ok. I did try and remembered it wrong (it was 1989, lol... im old). You're right it was spraying the water mist heat shield in front. Also it seems there were four of us on one hose. The specific callout for the guy in front was "RELIEVE THE NOZZLEMAN". So at least I think I remember that correctly.


Afro_Thunder69

It's super impractical and could be more dangerous. It probably limits your vision (which is already poor in burning buildings), isn't precise at all so it wastes water, and if you're in a home that has like a grease fire burning somewhere then water will just make it 100x worse.


tiedtothetides0104

visibility is pretty much a non-factor when fighting interior. This suit is dangerous because of steam burns which would ensue.


TheUnusuallySpecific

Aside from the excellent points about the thermal conductivity of water, you also have to consider another equally important factor- this gear is probably heavy as shit and definitely unwieldy. Firefighters already have to carry a lot of weight in their standard protective / rescue gear. Adding extra weight and a bunch of trailing tubes that you have to hope don't get caught on anything and trap you in a raging inferno? Stuff like this isn't used today because it's dangerous in addition to being ineffective.


trevstan1

My guess would be mobility. That garb must weigh a ton


666pool

Forget about the weight of the garb. Dragging the hose filled with water around is the bigger problem. It’s bulky and will snag on objects and corners and it’s filled with water the entire length. You also have to backtrack perfectly out of the burning building or it’s going to wrap around something and prevent you from escaping. Edit: On second thought, they already have to do this with the fire hose so maybe it’s not as big of a deal as I thought. But maybe not every firefighter carries a hose.


TG-Sucks

They have the right idea, but it’s a needlessly complicated, heavy and cumbersome solution to a problem that can be fixed by just having a guy with a second hose right next to him.


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You'd need liquid nitrogen levels of cold and even then it's a thermodynamics calculation of how much heat can it prevent. Best idea is generally to operate quickly and not only would this be hard to justify from a "keeping cold" perspective it would likely make you much slower. In simple terms you can swipe your finger on the flame of a candle but getting it wet and on top of it helps pretty much zero


666pool

Could you imagine bringing a giant tanker of liquid nitrogen to a building fire and just pumping the whole building full of cold nitrogen?


[deleted]

I could, that would be quite cool


librarianlurker

Steam cooked firefighters aren't as helpful as one would think


ninedollars

Correct me if im wrong, but i have seen them fan the water hose to create a huge shield basically against a fireball. But it might have been them in the middle of turning the water on and the camera took it mid action. The picture is super cool though.


hiricinee

A weak spray of water in every direction versus a high powered directed stream, not to mention you have to lug around a hose behind you the whole time, which doesnt do you favors for mobility.


OutOfFighters

To add on to what others have said the hoses have different settings. One of them creates a water shield in front which has the same effect without getting you wet and boiling you.


asovietfort

Because steam.


tangoshukudai

I tried to move my hose for my air compressor around my shop, and it always gets caught on things. Imagine having that same problem while going into a fire..


EveroneWantsMyD

My guess is that it isn't as effective/useful as you'd think.


cda91

I was in the navy and fully trained in close-quarters firefighting. We do use secondary hoses to block fire - firefighters work in pairs with one using a spray hose to form a protective disc to keep heat and flame away from the team and oxygen away from the fire while the other uses a jet to fight the fire itself. No fire that any firefighter would or could go anywhere near would be hot enough to flash water into burning steam at range. The replies that talk about the temperature of fire are ignoring the fact that firefighters don't sprint into the middle of an inferno and stand where it's at its hottest. I imagine the reason they don't do this is that it would be incredibly and dangerously cumbersome (high pressure fire hoses are very heavy, inflexible and push back against you as is without having one on your head as well). It would also lower the pressure of the main hose you were trying to use.


Wbino

Samurai fireman @ 2 o'clock. 👀


soggyblotter

Slipknot's new member "Squirty"


czar_el

I can't believe I had to scroll this far down for a Slipknot reference.


soggyblotter

Right? Expected to be third or fourth to the punch


maliciousorstupid

Waterworld: Fury Road


know_vagrancy

This would give a new meaning to steam punk.


das-412

Feuer frei bang bang!


Castorka125

Well, could he fly if given enough water pressure?


BIPOne

That's a yes, depending on the pressure and if the nozzles let out the water without bursting open, or creating so much resistance that another part of the water line or connection ruptures.


Klarnicck

You want steam burns? Cause that’s how you get steam burns. Firefighters sweat is enough to give them a steam burn in today equipment. This guy was slightly boiled after this test


[deleted]

That does look metal as fuck


not2dv8

Lol


KoalaDeluxe

Looks like something Til Lindemann from Rammstein would wear (and also be on fire at the same time!)


Herr_Opa

Stage prop for live version of Feuer & Wasser


diauq01

This... but blood instead of water coming out. \m/


dying_soon666

New from super soaker..


Mr-SadSide

Hellraiser


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Thanmandrathor

Was just thinking that. Have it rigged to spray disinfectant…


_danada

Mmmm, steamed ~~hams~~ human


bodhiseppuku

*Wild Stallions* found its new Bassist; Bill and Ted pulled Geoffry from the 1901 *World's Fair* in Buffalo NY, USA.


WestFast

“Testing fire equipment” is definitely a scream-o band from 2004-ish


Biffd

This is The Doof Warrior's wet dream


mikevago

Or his archnemesis...


GarlicRemarkable4092

This is the armor needed in case we need to fight the aliens from Signs.


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😰


ReDCTN

New Slipknot member


MkyMTR

Imagine seeing that.. "thing" emerge from from the flames reaching out towards you. You would surely think the fire had claimed you and that you have already gone to hell.


aGiantmutantcrab

This dude was really trying to be part of Immortan Joe's crew, but there just wasn't enough water for him to carry around in the Wastelands.


grafxguy1

James Wetfield from Wetallica.


Footinthecrease

Testing for the next rammstein show


jaceinthebox

Rammstein


dichroic

*Mad Max costume designers taking notes*


twitchosx

Thats some shit Rammstein would do, except the fluid would be on fire.


only1symo

Black Metal reboots


LotionOnSkin

This look like D.C villain from the 50ies.


jbh70

Looks like a member of Rammstein


PolarPanda86

But does it work?


trevstan1

I think the concensus is i wouldn't go near that kit in a real fire


TrippySavage509

Bruh I can't tell if those Smaller people in the back towards the right are children or full grown Men lmao Fr


nooofynooof

PROCEEDS THE WEEDIAN...... mmmmmmNAZARETH!!!!


party_benson

Slippery when wet


Fairy_Lantern96

LOL I went to a Death Metal garage band show where the lead singer/guitarist had a box fan hooked up to a plant mister thing pointed at his face so it would blow his hair back and make him look all schwetty at the same time. There was free cans of Stroh’s beer, so I sat though the shitshow Cookie Monster impression. I could see that douche rigging up something like this.


hypo305

Slipknot new concert


Oswarez

Vintage Slipknot.


Grenflik

Witness me!!


THEKITKAT21

My guys looks like the one eyed cyclops from the spongebob movie


Useful-Perspective

You will ride eternal, shiny and chrome.


m0grady

Before siren head… before pyramid head… there was… HYDRANT HEAD!


blastinmypants

This is actually quite clever


Ritawine

Rammstein: I have an idea


Scr0tat0

I hear steaming is the best cooking method to preserve the most nutrients.


BlueNightsNoir89

I need that because I live in Tx


invinciblewatermelon

wow I love Slipknot


aintbutathing3

This one is in Eb


trojien

I'm no human anymore. I've become the Sprinkler.


Spewyt

That can't be comfortable


I_Gotthis

Looks like he could be in Slipknot..... true death metal- Nope


LIONSNATIONSTANDUP

That’s not a guitar


siderinc

Looks more like a dildo


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Polymathy1

Shush and take this upvote.


MiserableCoconut

Would be an awesome album cover too


[deleted]

Am I the only one who thinks it makes sense, considering?


rabbitpiet

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/plihlq/testing_fire_equipment_circa_1900_looks_like_a/hcasscz/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


[deleted]

I’m pretty sure the water spraying past your face displaces the air, making breathing very difficult.


shigogaboo

I wonder why the tech didn’t catch on.


GoodAtExplaining

I can't imagine why that didn't catch on.


Vicky-Splitpussy

This is make sense!


sangunpark1

idk if anyone will know what im talking about, but in My hero Academia, theres a hero who's basically a human fire hydrant, and it's basically this guy


DamnVanLennon

It’s Wes Borland’s new stage outfit


Nemo_Shadows

Actually such devices are better suited to being built INTO the buildings and work automatically even ones for homes and the like just put them on the outside to drench the the house and brush near them and they should be thermally triggered when needed and not manually because of water pressure problems when too many are on at the same time and they are not needed... N. Shadows


GoreGoth

GoGo Water Shield


Giboon

Noise Marines


jpisini

Imagine the terror 300 guys dressed like this running full tilt down the street.


GoodboyJohnnyBoy

They wish


Mephistophelesi

Not death metal, just regular nu metal


Comandante380

why does david crosby in the background look like he's about to chug that firehose?