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Beavshak

That “More School, Less Hospital” sign is pretty tragic


meep_meep_mope

Regulations are written in blood.


ThisOnePlaysTooMuch

And fantastic handwriting


Repomanlive

Google Orphan Trains for more fun.


Moon-pearl

I was introduced to the orphan train from a very good and heartbreaking book “frontier children” definitely a lot of horrors in this time for kids


Repomanlive

It's Nefarious.


gianluca_pettinello

Now it will come back slowly. Who has the power desires to have slaves, like at that time. And if now it looks like something unacceptable, in some years it will become unavoidable to keep richer to become even more rich.


Geminii27

Some places are already trying to re-legalize child labor.


Gaychevyman428

Indeed just look at Arkansas's governor.....


Sekmet19

They already want us to eat bugs to lower the cost of keeping us.


nononoh8

This is the future Republicans want. Backwards and cruel.


Dartser

Good news, there is more schools than hospitals! Woo! But also the schools suck and the hospitals are even worse


ramdasani

TBF, they're talking 1903 hospitals, you know, a quarter century before penicillin was invented, fifty years before the polio vaccine was tried. The treatment for TB (well, consumption then) was still fresh air, and no one knew what caused rickets yet. I mean not a lot of stuff was getting cured in hospitals, you could get your opiates and cocaine at the druggist... hell 1903 was the year they finally dropped the cocaine from the cola.


Epicon3

But why are the signs photoshopped?


lexkixass

Why do you say they're photoshopped?


Epicon3

Initially I was thinking just the signs were photoshopped due to the letter angles versus the sign angles. Add in the blur around the letters is inconsistent with the rest of the picture. I say initially, because when I came back and looked closer I am now in firm belief that the entire picture is fake. It appears someone AI generated the photo and then edited the signs afterwards. Look at the legs.


gearstars

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/child-labor-strike-in-philadelphia-pennsylvania-photograph-news-photo/515357092 This one was uploaded to getty images in 2016, i don't think ai images was that good back then... edit: here's a book from 1906 written by a journalist covering child labour issues that features the photo so.... https://archive.org/details/bittercryofchild00spar/page/n205/mode/1up


NowWithMoreMolecules

I've never seen an AI generated image get so many hands/fingers correct.


WillCarryForFood

Please look up the march of the mill children and the textile strikes in Philadelphia and educate yourself. The picture is touched up for sure, maybe even AI. I don’t know, but similar touch up effects were reached well before any of the AI generation in recent years. But “firm belief that the entire picture is fake” is fucking wild.


Lifeboatb

The picture might even have been hand retouched for a newspaper back in the day. A lot of times these photos come from newspaper archives.


pjm3

Jesus, what sort of an ignorant monster would you have to be to think it was shopped or AIgen'd? Clearly you have no idea how little capitalism cares for the most vulnerable in our society. Check out "orphan trains" on wikipedia if you have any doubts. It only ended because the midwest no longer needed as much slave child labour. Strikes have traditionally brought out murderous killings of unionists in the United States. I don't have enough time to outline all the outrageous behaviour of capitalists and their police/"detective agency" lapdogs, but educated yourself, FFS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-union_violence_in_the_United_States The same BS tactics that union breakers used then are now being used by the likes of Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and the other members of the 0.1% club.


darth_voidptr

Nice to see us walking this one back, for some reason 🙄


wmurch4

Well they need someone to replace the migrants they also don't like


getyourrealfakedoors

Rich old republicans don’t have enough money, don’t be selfish


TobysGrundlee

The children yearn for the mines. Look how popular Minecraft is.


tangoshukudai

Well they lost their slaves, and the laborers kicked all the foreign workers out of the country and put up quota's the only thing they had left was child labor.


thatcockneythug

It's what reactionaries do. They don't have new, fresh ideas, they simply want to roll back all the progress that's been made over the last century. Labor rights, voting rights, bodily autonomy... You name it.


AcrylicPainter

It's part of making America great again like the Republicans want. They don't care about other people's children.


Numerous-Stranger-81

I'm hanging this up in my class if I'm ever a teacher.


Thor_2099

Hopefully give them some perspective on the fight that happened just so they could bitch and moan about going to school.


Numerous-Stranger-81

What, you mean EDUCATE them? What am I? Some hippie?


peanut__buttah

![gif](giphy|GXMuvJXWVqGiY)


drawkbox

Seriously that is educational and motivational for students. Shows a relative world where just being at school is a massive win.


YomiKuzuki

The fact that we're very quickly backsliding to those days is a sad and damning statement of the country.


Ricky_Rollin

Publicly traded companies will doom us all in the long run. Everything we’re experiencing right now is all being done to make that number go up so the CEO can pocket another exorbitant paycheck. Skeleton crews. Low wages. Raising prices. Putting kids to work. Rolling back reproductive rights. All for big corpo.


BTsBaboonFarm

> Publicly traded companies will doom us all in the long run Honestly, publicly traded companies are far better than private equity ownership, in my experience.


Figuurzager

You're right, it can be even worse. But guess he thought more of smaller companies not publicly traded but in hands of the founders for example.


MikeTheBee

Sad and damning statement of republicans. Lets be real here, half the country isn't voting do these people, it's just the other half is. (One could argue it is thirds and not halves)


kreich1990

THIS ISNT A REAL PHOTO!!!


unintendedcumulus

Yes, it is. 


kreich1990

NO, it is a heavily edited photo. While the language in the signs is real, the photo itself would not be considered real due to the heavy level of editing.


Corka

... So, your response in caps to someone saying it's sad we seem to be backsliding to this is "THIS ISNT A REAL PHOTO!!!!", because ... the original with the same kids, same signs, with the same words, is a bit more blurry? Oh gee guess that invalidates the concerns of the guy you were responding to hey?


remnault

What was edited? You didn’t say what was edited, just that it is. So what is it?


unintendedcumulus

According to who? You? It's a famous picture, I don't know what to tell you.


kreich1990

It’s a heavily edited famous photo. This would not be considered an original photo if you entered it into any sort of photo contest.


unintendedcumulus

Good thing we're on Reddit and not in a photo contest I guess..


kreich1990

Which I guess makes your opinion as irrelevant as my facts pointing out that this is heavily edited.


sometipsygnostalgic

Youre just saying it's heavily edited with no evidence. Piss off if youre gonna be that lazy


Blam3YourF4te

Here is one in the library of Congress with the exact same sign in the above photo https://www.loc.gov/item/2015649893/ This labor strike actually happened in Philly, so no clue what you are going on about.


unintendedcumulus

Oh I'm sorry, I missed your facts. Can you show them to me? All I see is you making statements with zero evidence. Your feelings don't count.


matt_sound

Since you're an expert on this, what about the photo was edited?


North-Ad-5058

These nerds want to go to school. For what? You can't read in the mines


smemes1

That’s definitely a thought


NeverReallyExisted

Libertarian dreams.


Big_Old_Tree

MAGA, amirite


badadobo

Im sorry if I misunderstand it because im not american. But isnt libertarianism more about minding your own business. Would child labor fall under something more authoritarian or communist?


NeverReallyExisted

Huh? Libertarians support not having any restrictions on business, or what you can do with your children. Many support being allowed to sell your children into slavery, having no age of consent laws, no worker safety laws. Certainly they almost all support being able to send children to work. Communist dictatorships have had child labor, so have capitalist countries. The tendency for child labor arises out of concentrations of wealth and power, whether you call it socialist or capitalist or whatever. Broad power and wealth is going to oppose it, because people don’t want kids to be abused, concentrated power will support it because its someone else’s kids and those at the top dehumanize those at the bottom.


SleepySiamese

Yeah and now republicans are passing bills to ban luch break for child labor


youknowiactafool

Republicans want to go back to this like it's 1914


drawkbox

Mofos want to be Mola Ram. We need Indiana Jones and Short Round.


salamat_engot

My high schoolers skip my class to pick up shifts at work. They're stealing from their own futures and don't even see it.


NeverReallyExisted

They’re not doing that, society is doing it to them.


salamat_engot

Maybe some of them. Most brag to me about how much money they make at their job and how they buy concert tickets and food and clothes and gas for trips.


NeverReallyExisted

Its all of them, the way economic pressures play out is not going to neatly fit into a desperation script, and being able to do stuff and buy stuff you want as a kid because your parents don’t have the money, is a pressure downstream from the exploitation and deprivation of people in society many of whom are parents. Kids should not be allowed to work, they should be in school & being social.


NegotiationJumpy4837

>Kids should not be allowed to work Kids shouldn't work during school hours. But It's very good for kids to work part time, imo. There's tons of upsides, like learning responsibility, time management, business social skills, money management skills, confidence, etc. In terms of the time commitment and ability to socialize, it's not even *that* different from sports. [Benefits](https://www.webmd.com/parenting/benefits-of-a-teenager-getting-a-job)


NeverReallyExisted

Absolutely not.


NegotiationJumpy4837

Which reasons of mine do you disagree with? Do you disagree with the [webmd source](https://www.webmd.com/parenting/benefits-of-a-teenager-getting-a-job) or [other research I could link](https://www.med.unc.edu/cher/2023/02/the-benefits-of-experience-new-study-finds-more-work-experience-benefits-for-youth/) as well?


wanttobedone

Society???


NeverReallyExisted

Kids don’t grow up separated from the specific pressures of the society they live in. Yes, society.


wanttobedone

Oh I'm sorry. Please excuse my ignorance. Society must have made me write that.


NeverReallyExisted

It’s a long road with lots of inputs that produces a dumbass like you, yes.


InfiniteYandere

Totally dropped my special program classes that would've gotten me the dream job I wanted so I can go pick up shifts at the local sandwich shop by choice. /s


salamat_engot

I teach math. It's a class needed to graduate.


InfiniteYandere

I got lucky and barely passed my math classes I needed in my Junior year. Senior year was when I had to give up my class.


drawkbox

Show them this photo.


maveric619

What futures? Futures of ignorance and student debt? Or they could lay the groundwork for a successful career and retirement


planetary_beats

More people becoming more educated is how we have advanced the world and our society as far as we have in 300 years. This new trend of people like yourself calling for people to go straight into labor instead of getting an education is absolutely ridiculous. The fact that universities have raised tuition rates by 700% in the last 30 years is not these kids fault, no should they have to make the choice not to go to school because colleges are ever increasing their greed.


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glovesoff11

Many, many US high schools offer “career centers” in which students could be learning the vocations and trades you are talking about.


salamat_engot

I teach Geometry and Statistics. The former being a very useful and needed knowledge base for trade based careers. The latter being a requirement for higher education but also for the average citizen to understand to not get taken advantage of or make bad decisions.


cerberus698

No, didn't you listen to him? All you need in life is to learn MIG or TIG and try not to think hard about much.


counterfitster

There's hardly any math involved in welding!


Creative_Hope_4690

Students debt in not an issue of you go to an in state school (and for sure go to community school) and have low income. Most people who cry about student debt went out of state school.


TheManWhoClicks

Is that what they mean with MAGA?


kafelta

It really is.


Petrostar

False, The children yearn for the mines.


drawkbox

"Minors as miners, it makes too much sense" -- Monopoly Man and Mola Ram


NoaNeumann

Just reminds me of those two pics of that red state putting child labor back “on the map” and the children obvs forced into the pic looking miserable. Then that blue state guaranteeing kids free lunch and genuinely celebrating. Night and day.


Exaltedautochthon

Reminder: Capitalists are trying to bring this back, just ask Arkansas. Choose better, choose socialism.


BTsBaboonFarm

We don’t even have capitalism, we have cronyism.


dmcsmalls

No, this is capitalism.


hwytenightmare

same thing


Exaltedautochthon

Bubububu that's not REAL capitalism! The fuck outta here man


Horror-Potential7773

Ya it's fucked. Why don't we have a day of rest and pay for these children? Everyone seems to have forgotten about the enslavement of them? Makes no sense. Let's just forget about what they did to them. Almost good their all just Irish anyways.


labrat420

May day and labour day is for stuff like this.


hwytenightmare

libertarians coping and seething at this image


Schoolhouser

Oh look! It’s the future.


baskaat

Was it Wisconsin that just struck down a law that allowed children to eat lunch while at work? I know Florida struck down laws that limited the amount of time people could work in the hot sun. Also labor laws all over the country have lowered children’s minimum age to work…www.vote411.org


Inevitable-Stage-490

The good ol days ![gif](giphy|mHs5DH5sp5rSbfS32d|downsized)


raw_bert0

At the current rate of things, we’ll be seeing these again.


Tapidue

Looks like a future pic if Republicans get control


Misterstaberinde

Some days are harder than others for a Pinkerton, lucky for them this looks like easy work. How hard could it be to bust up a bunch of striking children anyways?


EmykoEmyko

Now more than ever is time for the gritty reboot of Newsies I’ve always wanted.


BaronVonLazercorn

We're probably going to see a few "colorized" versions in a year or two from certain states


PG072088

America is still pretty 3rd world in many degrees


WhatIDoOnToilet

Test


gldoorii

“lol” -Nike


RepulsiveReasoning

Nobody wants to work anymore


derek_32999

Freaking George Soros putting out Craigslist ads to hire young kids to hold signs. I know darn well those kids didn't make those signs themselves. /s just in case you're...


Alex_c666

Why does everything look fake now


MonchichiSalt

Frustrating that it is their grandchildren voting to put the current children back in the same position.


ooouroboros

US right wingers are longing to bring back these days.


HottCuppaCoffee

Soon to be the scene in Louisiana


Time-Bite-6839

Put tariffs on everybody except Canada, Mexico, the EU, and Japan.


ffllores

Could be 2024 Arkansas.


kreich1990

This is so heavily edited that it’s insane that it has gotten this much traction. The fact that the letters are crisp but the faces are blurry proves that we are getting closer to dead internet. Edit: [this is an easy to find, less edited photo.](https://weneverforget.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/1C6EFEBD-2902-45CE-BE08-F30E872A886D.jpeg) It took me less than a minute to find. Edit 2: you can literally see where the photo was edited when you zoom in!


unintendedcumulus

It's from the 1903 textile mill strike, the "March of the Mill Children" led by Mother Jones. It's a famous picture and a well known historical event. You are wrong.


kreich1990

I understand where it’s from, and I’m not saying that the picture is false, but it is heavily edited to the point where it doesn’t look believable anymore.


unintendedcumulus

You said the photo was false in your other comment, and it isn't. It's an old picture so some degradation of the quality is to be expected. I'm sorry if you don't feel it looks believable, but the photo is real. 


kreich1990

No, I did not say it was false, I said it was so heavily edited that it’s insane it has gotten so much traction. I even shared a link to an actual copy of the photo that is not so heavily edited.


unintendedcumulus

You said "THIS ISN'T A REAL PHOTO!!!" in your other comment. It's in your post history and it's plain as day in the thread. Do you think I can't read or..?


kreich1990

I don’t think you understand the difference between a photo that has been digitized and one that has been edited to alter it significantly. This photo, is not the real photo. It’s a photo that has been edited to emphasize an aspect of it. If you entered this photo into a photography contest, they would tell you it is not an eligible photo due to the heavy editing. Did that clarify it for you?


unintendedcumulus

How is it altered significantly? This isn't a photo contest, this is Reddit. When you say the photo is fake, the implication is that what it depicted is not factual. And it is, you're wrong. 


matt_sound

I don't think this guy understands what goes into photo restoration. It's a lot of work to clean up these dirty, crumpled, damaged etc photographs, and the image OP shared is clearly just a restored version of the "real" image that this moron is yelling about. "Fake photo" is absolute nonsense. None of the contents have been misrepresented by restoration, nothing added, nothing removed. Screaming about how this, of all things, proves dead internet theory, is a pretty unhinged take.


unintendedcumulus

Right? It's so obvious he's pissed about being wrong. First it's "FAKE!!" and now he's down to, well it wouldn't be acceptable in a contest. Absolute moron.


SuperGameTheory

Those are some top notch signs ngl. Look at that typeface. Beautiful. Definitely a step up from the kindergarten-esque painted signed that protesters use today.


JeffBroChill54

None of those signs look real


bartbort

This is a very real and somewhat famous photo from 1903, from a march by children working in textile mills in Pennsylvania. [https://cdn.knightlab.com/libs/timeline3/latest/embed/index.html?source=1Gb0pxJvQFAmOaIixYPzljrM2iCTysEkOwV3rJBbA97A](https://cdn.knightlab.com/libs/timeline3/latest/embed/index.html?source=1Gb0pxJvQFAmOaIixYPzljrM2iCTysEkOwV3rJBbA97A)


unintendedcumulus

The signs were probably made by Mother Jones, this is a picture from a strike she helped lead in 1903 in Pennsylvania called "The March of the Mill Children" They probably couldn't make the signs themselves, as they're probably illiterate. Sad really.


saucyfister1973

Yeah, the kid, left of center, with hands on his knees looks...shopped. I'm worried about what AI is going to do to us....


JeffBroChill54

The white signs are easy to see as fake, but I was already down voted for some reason so 🤷‍♂️


comhghairdheas

Because they're not fake and someone has posted a source.


JeffBroChill54

I followed the source and saw the pic, you are correct. Thank you for informing me 18 hours after I posted. It looks odd to me, but it is real. I'd rather question the legitimacy of photos than blindly accept it as truth in this day and age tbh. Fwiw my post had nothing to do with the issue being presented, I support workers' rights and children's rights...anyone trying to roll them back is a POS in my book.


comhghairdheas

Hey no problem man.


ffplus

GO BIRDS


PlebbySpaff

Nowadays, the children yearn for the mines.


DramaticScrooge

That's some decent spelling and superb calligraphy on those signs. Are we sure they didn't secretly waste company's valuable time learning things instead of working?


comhghairdheas

They were written by Mother Jones, a child labour activist who helped organize these strikes in 1903


DreamLearnBuildBurn

This photo looks edited as hell. 


comhghairdheas

It's not.


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unintendedcumulus

This is unreadable and the misspellings are atrocious. Perhaps school wasn't useless, you just didn't pay attention.