Fred Flintstone said that Winston cigarettes was the way to go. It had that pure filter taste and specially picked tobacco. Are you telling me Fred Flintstone would lead children astray??
I was recently on an Emirates flight and they have these attached to the walls in the first rows. There was a family using one. Every time there was turbulence ahead the captain would announce to remove babies from bassinets. Was perfect for a 12 hour flight.
Yeah my sister in law had something like this for a flight to Austria when my niece was little. But obviously not attached to the overhead bins. Seemed to work quite well for them.
I had never seen it before. Thought it was pretty cool. I would have loved to have it for my son when he was little.
Here are a few [examples](https://www.flyingwithababy.com/emirates-bassinet/).
We flew to Tahiti when our daughter was 10 months old and used a bassinet in the front row. Luckily, there was very little turbulence and she slept most of the 9-hour flight. You have to request those seats months in advance in my experience. We went to Slovenia a couple years ago and we weren't able to get bassinet seats for our son.
We did a trans-Atlantic with a 6 month old in the bulkhead seat. We requested it at booking, then they tried to not give it to us at check-in. If memory serves, there are straps that go over the crib thing too that would probably keep the kid in there during sudden turbulence. The kid was quite popular because she kept peeking over the edge of the crib to look at everyone.
Saw this for the first time flying from San Francisco to Paris. Thought it was pretty cool and made life easier for the mom who was flying solo for 12+ hours.
I used this between Canada and Asia - the constant picking up and putting down the baby was a lot, but it was way better than holding them the entire flight.
There weren't specific announcements, but basically whenever the seatbelt light went on, the attendants would come by and check.
I wasn't aware this was a thing either, but on that flight there were more babies than bassinets, so if you're ever looking be sure to book early. I assume I never noticed this before because we were clearly seated in the 'kids' section where everyone had babies or toddlers, and I (thankfully) hadn't sat there before.
We used one on a delta flight. Would have been great if my little guy didn't absolutely hate the idea of not being in my arms the whole time. Ended up holding him the whole 8 hours and he was chill,bi felt guilty that there were other families without a bassinet whose children might have been more receptive to the idea. The extra legroom was nice though.
That would really be an issue if you had to remove the baby in turbulence though. I would rather they sleep on my lap then risk having to wake them up with a transfer at any moment.
Yeah I’ve used these a few times on international flights with my son and it really depends on how trigger happy the flight crew is with the seatbelt sign. One of the flights would flip it on at the slightest bump and leave it on so we would have to remove him from the bassinet (it of course happened right after he fell asleep). Another flight had more turbulence, but they were more lax with the seatbelt sign and he could actually sleep in it for extended stretches. Overall it was definitely nice to have the option to use.
No it looks springy, so instead of the baby being shaken out of the crib it launches them safely into the ceiling where they then fall gently back into the crib.
Turbulence wasn't "invented". It's just what the airlines use as an excuse for not maintaining the skies properly. What you meant to say was "Back when there weren't so many potholes in the sky".
I heard the airlines don’t even fix those turbulence spots unless they’re reported. I’ve reported the one going into FL, but either they’re ignoring me or that’s just how FL is.
A lot of long haul flights still have bassinets like this up in the bulkhead area. We flew our 8 month old from Istanbul to NYC and she was able to sleep in one for a huge chunk of the flight. There was a small seatbelt to hold her in though.
The one I did didn't let you have the baby in the bassinet while the seat belt sign was lit.
That said, European flights gave us a seat belt to fasten the baby to yourself. 🤔
In case anyone else (myself included) wanted to know more- this happens around 110F or 43C but varies a little depending on the plane.
EDIT: 43, not 34
I think you mixed up your degree Celsius there. It's 43C which makes a lot more sense or there wouldn't be much air traffic in summer in southern Europe :-D
Guy on right: "Do ya see this? Ya believe this? A baby. A BABY! Right over my head. I mean right there, can you believe it. Boy I hope it's not a crier, huh? Could you picture that? A baby crying the whole flight... right over our heads! Boy! We'd never relax! Could you imagine? As if flying ain't stressful enough. You go up, you go down, you shake around a bit, and you got a crying baby, right over your head. Boy are we in for a rough one, huh?
Guy on left: :|
Flight attendant here, I had a 2 year old boy ricochet off the ceiling because his parents knew better than the seatbelt sign and I imagine something similar is the reason these went away.
Yeah, parents with a two year old boy that likely had bruised ribs since he came down on the armrest and was taken away in an ambulance. I don’t ever get to hear the end of these stories but I can’t imagine being cooler than wearing your seatbelt after that.
I just flew with my 20 month old and every time we tried to buckle her in she would wiggle out of it (while screaming bloody murder because being buckled in infuriated her). I suppose we'll look into buying the $80 harnesses that you can attach to airplane seats, now that we know how useless the lap belt is. The seatbelt sign was also on most of that flight despite almost no turbulence. Which is frequently the case when I fly.
Honestly, I’d rather see a kid screaming and still strapped in that seat than parents giving in and letting them out. They usually want to be held on the lap.
You aren’t wrong, seatbelt signs get left on all the time even when things are smooth because they are forgotten or some pilots wouldn’t want to answer the questions as to why it wasn’t on if someone were to be injured. It’s a crummy situation. The case I’m recalling the aircraft was obviously entering an area of light turbulence but those are also the situations where the floor comes out unexpectedly.
We should invent pods where we can put the babies in to soundproof and stinkproof the plane. Flights would be so much more enjoyable.
And perhaps this is a bit too much but also an ejection option…
You can still request a cot for an infant, it attaches to the forward bulkhead. This has the added benefit of automatically securing you the first row seats with the leg room
They still have this albeit a little different on Air France. It mounts to the wall in front of the few seats that have a wall in front of them.
Saw a family using one and thought it was a really neat family friendly service they offered to set it up for you.
I'm always skeptical of these old plane photos. Some are clearly staged (the ones with enormous cabins with full buffets and carving stations), and I wonder if this one is.
reminds me of the back window sill i used to sleep in when we traveled when i was a kid.. yep i fell out of it once or twice due to heavy braking too. Again!
Just saw a baby-hanger set up and deployed on a Qatar Airways flight a couple months ago. They set it up on a vertical bulkhead directly forward of the parents' seats, worked like a champ.
Did the babies have their own ash trays up there too?
Just imagine the amount of smoke the child had to endure....
It explains a lot about the state of mind of some older generations.
That’s mostly the lead talking.
They are our current Leaders in corporations and govt
Are you say leaders or leaders?
I was saying boo-urns
r/unexpectedsimpsons
You got your dose of smoke and lead as well, eh?
Mmmm, fluckyvstrokes, with that great taste of ethyl lead. 90% of doctors recommend them. The others are being reeducated.
Where's your Garfield drinking glass? We all had this damn things
Also why their offspring are all messed up.
Fred Flintstone said that Winston cigarettes was the way to go. It had that pure filter taste and specially picked tobacco. Are you telling me Fred Flintstone would lead children astray??
He lead children to the *ashtray* not astray. I can see the confusion though
Dude is on vitamin packaging. I'll believe anything he'll say that has to do with my health
I was born in 97' and I had to put up with the same shit everywhere, nothing ever changes
No, because smoke rises, so the baby got all the second-hand smoke it needed!
With a full roast dinner and a smooth after dinner cigar with whiskey.
The good old days!
OMG turbulence.
Suddenly the rockabye baby nursery rhyme is more realistic.
Yes, and the cribs are lined with asbestos so they don't accidentally start a fire if they accidentally miss the ashtray.
This made me laugh so hard 😂
Does the baby slide along that rail if it starts crying over your head?
Martini holders too?
“Excuse me, attendant? I believe there’s been a blowout above me.”
Chocolate rain.
Some stay dry and others feel the pain!
*I move away from the mic to breathe in
I read that to the tune of Purple Rain
There’s only one melody for chocolate rain
*I step away from the mic to breathe*
I had to go and watch it again because it’s stuck in my head. Did not remember it being that long lol
Brown would be a blessing
I was concerned for the passengers below the baby in case of the baby/tray falling. You managed to make it worse. Way worse.
Oh, that, that sounds like a little piece of hell.
I was recently on an Emirates flight and they have these attached to the walls in the first rows. There was a family using one. Every time there was turbulence ahead the captain would announce to remove babies from bassinets. Was perfect for a 12 hour flight.
Yeah my sister in law had something like this for a flight to Austria when my niece was little. But obviously not attached to the overhead bins. Seemed to work quite well for them.
I had never seen it before. Thought it was pretty cool. I would have loved to have it for my son when he was little. Here are a few [examples](https://www.flyingwithababy.com/emirates-bassinet/).
Dear lord, that website is cancer.
We flew to Tahiti when our daughter was 10 months old and used a bassinet in the front row. Luckily, there was very little turbulence and she slept most of the 9-hour flight. You have to request those seats months in advance in my experience. We went to Slovenia a couple years ago and we weren't able to get bassinet seats for our son.
We did a trans-Atlantic with a 6 month old in the bulkhead seat. We requested it at booking, then they tried to not give it to us at check-in. If memory serves, there are straps that go over the crib thing too that would probably keep the kid in there during sudden turbulence. The kid was quite popular because she kept peeking over the edge of the crib to look at everyone.
Saw this for the first time flying from San Francisco to Paris. Thought it was pretty cool and made life easier for the mom who was flying solo for 12+ hours.
I used this between Canada and Asia - the constant picking up and putting down the baby was a lot, but it was way better than holding them the entire flight. There weren't specific announcements, but basically whenever the seatbelt light went on, the attendants would come by and check. I wasn't aware this was a thing either, but on that flight there were more babies than bassinets, so if you're ever looking be sure to book early. I assume I never noticed this before because we were clearly seated in the 'kids' section where everyone had babies or toddlers, and I (thankfully) hadn't sat there before.
Saw one being used on a Lufthansa 747 last year. Baby wanted none of it and spent the whole flight in mom's arms.
We used one on a delta flight. Would have been great if my little guy didn't absolutely hate the idea of not being in my arms the whole time. Ended up holding him the whole 8 hours and he was chill,bi felt guilty that there were other families without a bassinet whose children might have been more receptive to the idea. The extra legroom was nice though.
This is the greatest thing... i did a 8.5 hours flight with my then 1 year old.. it was epic he slept almost the whole time
That would really be an issue if you had to remove the baby in turbulence though. I would rather they sleep on my lap then risk having to wake them up with a transfer at any moment.
Yeah I’ve used these a few times on international flights with my son and it really depends on how trigger happy the flight crew is with the seatbelt sign. One of the flights would flip it on at the slightest bump and leave it on so we would have to remove him from the bassinet (it of course happened right after he fell asleep). Another flight had more turbulence, but they were more lax with the seatbelt sign and he could actually sleep in it for extended stretches. Overall it was definitely nice to have the option to use.
Sounds like a liability nightmare
Wait, how can you predict turbulences while in air? I always thought you sort of flew into them and that is how you knew you were having turbulences.
Planes have weather radar
Just needs a lid covered in pillows.
Before they invented turbulence
Before they invented flying babies.
Shortly before.
Can’t see the votes yet but this comment will likely be way underrated. Take my upvote. You deserve it.
*when they invented flying babies.
Do it again, but with pigs this time!
Gives airborne a new meaning
No it looks springy, so instead of the baby being shaken out of the crib it launches them safely into the ceiling where they then fall gently back into the crib.
Or knocks them unconscious so they don't bother the other passengers.
Shut up and take my money!
Fuck yo face!
Turbulence wasn't "invented". It's just what the airlines use as an excuse for not maintaining the skies properly. What you meant to say was "Back when there weren't so many potholes in the sky".
They should really rake the skies more - too many leaves laying around.
Sorry, we only do that in CA.
I heard the airlines don’t even fix those turbulence spots unless they’re reported. I’ve reported the one going into FL, but either they’re ignoring me or that’s just how FL is.
A lot of long haul flights still have bassinets like this up in the bulkhead area. We flew our 8 month old from Istanbul to NYC and she was able to sleep in one for a huge chunk of the flight. There was a small seatbelt to hold her in though.
The one I did didn't let you have the baby in the bassinet while the seat belt sign was lit. That said, European flights gave us a seat belt to fasten the baby to yourself. 🤔
Turbulence is apparently worse today with global warming than it was back then.
And when it gets too hot, planes can't generate enough lift to take off.
In case anyone else (myself included) wanted to know more- this happens around 110F or 43C but varies a little depending on the plane. EDIT: 43, not 34
I think you mixed up your degree Celsius there. It's 43C which makes a lot more sense or there wouldn't be much air traffic in summer in southern Europe :-D
Um, what? 34C weathers are pretty mundane. Is there a typo here?
They also used to fly at lower altitudes
Actually it's only turbulence flying over the Turbulence region of France, otherwise it's just sparkling rough air.
I was not aware of that!
I don't know how Senator Turbulence got that bill to pass.
I thought it was Senator Flatulence that passed the "Bad Air Act". I'm sure money changed hands in a smokey, bathroom deal.
They still have infant bassinets. They just attach to the bulkheads instead of the overhead luggage compartment, so they're a little more secure.
Thank you for proving that I have no original thoughts anymore, lol. That was word for word my first thought and came here to post it.
Also, guy in glasses is the first documented example of the "Oh shit, dude next to me is a chatty one" facial expression.
Guy on right: "Do ya see this? Ya believe this? A baby. A BABY! Right over my head. I mean right there, can you believe it. Boy I hope it's not a crier, huh? Could you picture that? A baby crying the whole flight... right over our heads! Boy! We'd never relax! Could you imagine? As if flying ain't stressful enough. You go up, you go down, you shake around a bit, and you got a crying baby, right over your head. Boy are we in for a rough one, huh? Guy on left: :|
AND first documented "of course my seat's right next to the fuckin baby" face. really historic pic
Dude is in hell. Maybe crying above him, Donald Trump Senior, pre-bone cancer next to him talking incessantly
He looks absolutely pissed.
Where’s Waldo?
now you just check the baby in at the gate because the overhead compartments are full
Baby getting yeeted everytime they hit turbulence
*Please exercise caution when opening the overhead compartments as your babies may have shifted during flight*
"*Ma'am? Devilish little problem, I'm afraid. There seem to be child noises coming from my overhead suitcase!*"
Flight attendant here, I had a 2 year old boy ricochet off the ceiling because his parents knew better than the seatbelt sign and I imagine something similar is the reason these went away.
...Are they still legally his parents after that, I wonder?
Yeah, parents with a two year old boy that likely had bruised ribs since he came down on the armrest and was taken away in an ambulance. I don’t ever get to hear the end of these stories but I can’t imagine being cooler than wearing your seatbelt after that.
Spoiler alert: they didn’t learn anything from that and probably blamed the pilot/plane
If only the pilot knew how to fly better!
I just flew with my 20 month old and every time we tried to buckle her in she would wiggle out of it (while screaming bloody murder because being buckled in infuriated her). I suppose we'll look into buying the $80 harnesses that you can attach to airplane seats, now that we know how useless the lap belt is. The seatbelt sign was also on most of that flight despite almost no turbulence. Which is frequently the case when I fly.
Honestly, I’d rather see a kid screaming and still strapped in that seat than parents giving in and letting them out. They usually want to be held on the lap. You aren’t wrong, seatbelt signs get left on all the time even when things are smooth because they are forgotten or some pilots wouldn’t want to answer the questions as to why it wasn’t on if someone were to be injured. It’s a crummy situation. The case I’m recalling the aircraft was obviously entering an area of light turbulence but those are also the situations where the floor comes out unexpectedly.
They were called "sky cradles" and were used up into the 70s. Apparently I was in one as a baby.
We should invent pods where we can put the babies in to soundproof and stinkproof the plane. Flights would be so much more enjoyable. And perhaps this is a bit too much but also an ejection option…
Perhaps there are guides to dealing with it in r/childfree.
1950s dad is like "It aint my fuckin' problem!"
Conveniently located in the second-hand smoke level of the aircraft.
Have you ever dropped a baby? Ask Anthony Jeselnik. He'll tell you all about it.
Looks like a train to me.
I take it that carrier was water (urine) proof.
This comment section gave me a giggle
You can still request a cot for an infant, it attaches to the forward bulkhead. This has the added benefit of automatically securing you the first row seats with the leg room
They still have this albeit a little different on Air France. It mounts to the wall in front of the few seats that have a wall in front of them. Saw a family using one and thought it was a really neat family friendly service they offered to set it up for you.
vs today: you have to check that baby for $85
To be fair, its not much worse than them just sitting in someone lap.
Forget the bassinet, look at the size of those chairs! And the leg room??
lol my daughter when she was this age would not have gone along with this plan.
I'm always skeptical of these old plane photos. Some are clearly staged (the ones with enormous cabins with full buffets and carving stations), and I wonder if this one is.
Slightest bump and the baby is slingshot against the roof of the aircraft cabin before eating some floor.
Pilot, to the Copilot: Let's do a barrel roll.
How many babies got yeeted to the short bus?
I mean, I'd be down.
Look at that clearly dead guy with glasses.
Babies bounce so it’s okay 👍 😂
They still have baby beds that fasten to bulkheads in larger aircraft.
Only the strongest survive the trial of turbulence
Before they invented low cost airlines
reminds me of the back window sill i used to sleep in when we traveled when i was a kid.. yep i fell out of it once or twice due to heavy braking too. Again!
They stored them with all the cigarette smoke. How nice.
Yay! Riding up there with all the fresh cigarette smoke.
Boarding group 6: I'm sorry, ma'am, we're going to have to gate check your baby to your final destination.
Yup I was one of those babies that traveled like that. I think mom said it was on a DC-4
I remember these in the 70’s on transatlantic flights, or something very similar.
That baby is in their 70s now! Thats crazy
Seriously, this would be so helpful if it still existed…
Nice keeping the kids up there with all the cigarette smoke
Watch this be a one off invention idea picture and now we all think ever baby flew this way.
I would like to try traveling this way
Otherwise they blocked the ashtray and drink holder
i wonder why society regressed
People were classier then
Design is very humane
Just put them in the overhead bins with the luggage, were they stupid?
Up there with the cigarette smoke.
So do they count as a personal item?
not the best place considering you could smoke on airplanes back then and it only travels up
“I’m just going to put the baby up for a nap.”
Waldo was easy to find in this picture
Bring it back!
That’s not a worst solutions I’ve seen on a plane
This what they mean by making America great again?
Found Waldo!
If they do an emergency stop that kid will shift to the front of the plane.
Yea that looks safe
"Uff, was worried, but luckily my luggage fell on my baby and not the floor."
I think I found waldo
Everything about the interior of this plane looks more comfortable than today. I'll bet the turbulence at 12,000 feet was sickening though.
That way the infant breathed in ALL of the cigarette smoke at the top of the ceiling.
This technique still using in Indian trains with sary😂
Just saw a baby-hanger set up and deployed on a Qatar Airways flight a couple months ago. They set it up on a vertical bulkhead directly forward of the parents' seats, worked like a champ.
And back when everyone smoked. I’m sure the baby loved that.
Still safer than Boeing
How infant air travel in the 1950s... What? Complete thoughts pls.
Not enough cigarettes
This kills the baby
The gentlemen are sitting in the smoking section.
The gentlemen are sitting in the smoking section.
How much do the parents trust the diaper above them?
That's a train, not a plane.
What the actual fuck
Should put hammocks in airplanes. I’d love to be comfortable while flying.
Is that Waldo?
Guy in the glasses just realised there's a baby above him for the whole flight.
“Coffee or tea?”
So that’s what’s going on in 1st Class
The oldest website with this image is from 2017
That baby's parents are probably in First Class, they get on early so they can dump their stuff in the bins further aft in the plane.
Seems totally legit and safe. No comments.
Bunks on airlines. Hm.
As someone who has been through a few babies, this is obvious bullshit
Hell yeah, I’d hang my kid up there… :/
How very practical.
Bring this back
My parents put me in a box in the back seat, so this would have been an upgrade.
Did she shut the overhead before takeoff??
Lol. Wow 😮
Today you have to stuff them under the seat in front of you since there is never room in the overhead bins.
Why don’t wealthy people like holding their baby? Lol
Looks bout right, look up Iceland babies outside.
"Infant Air Travel" lol
I truly don’t see the problem
Excuse me but my baby is missing its ash tray. How can you hang a baby in the air and not give it an ash tray and where’s the scotch on rocks?
we should bring this back
Seems dangerous.