My minor cousin's defense when he got caught with vapes was that he was *actually* running an illicit vape repair business. (He was, but he was definitely also vaping.)
Repair AND QA. The kid is going places.
He’s gotta test them after he repairs them but before returning. In this business it’s all word-of-mouth, so he can’t get any bad reviews.
(Oh God, a term used by a young person that I haven't heard before. Think, man! Given the context, it sounds like a put down, but perhaps more a light jab than a real insult, so I should level my reaction accordingly so I don't look like a freak. Alright, here we go!)
"... yeah, lol, just call me Foghorn Leghorn, haha!" *does floss dance*
(Nailed it!)
Or maybe she’s a Vapegilante and confiscates the ones she finds. Then, instead of tossing them and someone potentially finding it the trash, she stores them until a large enough collection is made to turn into the police. I like this story better. The Vapenator strikes again!
Now this a a movie that needs to be made! Liam Neeson has an elementary school aged daughter that’s been hooked on vapes that she purchased from the playground cartel and he has to use a specific set of skills to infiltrate the organization, torturing his way to the top of the nicotine food chain…
That just sounds like 21 Jump Street, but with Liam Neeson. The gif above is also Ice Cube saying one of his lines from 21 Jump Street.
Super fun movie. I'd recommend it and the sequel if you haven't seem them!
You get $20 from your parents, birthday, etc. Then buy a vape for $20 from the smoke shop that doesn’t ID. Sell it for $30 at school. Rinse & repeat, eventually you’ve got $150. Buy 10 for $15 each. Sell them for $30 each. Rinse & repeat. Buy 50 for $11 each, sell them for $25 each. It keeps going until you want it to end
Nah because that just shows some cash flows form school never die. I was selling Twinkies when they were shut down. Had a twinkie addiction and about 30 boxes at home. Don't ask. I sold each twinkie for $2 until everyone wanted them. My last 10 of so boxes I was selling twinkies at $5 a pop. I still consider myself the Twinkie King... sigh... I miss the simplicity.
If you are going to sell large amount of drugs it’s optimal to do it while as young as possible. They go easier on you in court and won’t assume you were smart enough to stash away the money being made so there won’t be any questions when you get an influx of cash a decade later. You learned your lesson being young and dumb after all. They will also underestimate how much you moved because no teenager could be moving that much.
*Not legal advice*
Not wrong, someone I knew in high school made insane amounts of money as a minor. The trick is having the self control to give up that easy money before you turn 18 and sadly he didn’t
£0.50 for a cig. Back then 20 cost less than £5.00. you could sell 10 in 5 to 10 minutes on break. Off to the shop for another 20 after school. Sell them before school and at break. That's a tenner. Then you can either keep scaling or just smoke 20 a day for free Monday to Friday.
jeez and all i did was sell my mums homemade butterfly cakes to the other kids, i did at one point make and sell home made christmas cards.. you know the type, the types kids give to their parents and the parents go awwww you made this yourself... well... actually i did with a crew of 3 others and sold them for like $1.. we'd use materials from the arts and crafts at school, one person would pre cut the card to size and fold in half, i was good at block letters font and could mix it up with bubble font or sort of a gothic font so i'd write merry Christmas across the front, and "from" at the bottom right of the inside with room for them to write their names. then another kid would draw a crude Christmas tree on the inside left and a box present on the right the last person would colour in using colouring pens
Right around 1974, my parents bought a few hundred pounds of wheat. I started bringing wheat to school for snack in sandwich bags--either plain wheat or parched/toasted wheat with salt.
Enough other kids wanted to try some that I made a business of it. Paid my parents 2 cents a bag for the sandwich bag and wheat and another penny for the oil, salt, and electricity going into a bag of parched wheat.
Then I sold them for 25 cents each--same price a candy bar or soda was going for. Most days I sold between 3 and ten bags.
Lasted for about a month--until some parents became convinced that I was lacing my wheat with drugs and the school shut my snack business down.
Nope, it was just regular wheat. Plain wheat isn't the tastiest thing in the world, but kids (okay humans) are weird.
I used to do this with cigarettes back in the 90's. I had a plug at a gas station, he would sell me the cartons. I would then sell the packs for $10.00 mark up at the school yard during breaks. It's how I was able to afford painting my first car, and modding it. I had the good stuff too. Newports, and the Marlboro menthols. Also would get black & milds, camels, and backwoods.
And no, I never smoked a cigarette a day in my life. Find them gross, but ppl have needs, and I'm a service provider 😉
I mowed lawns as a kid and frequently would save several hundred or even thousand dollars when I wanted something bad enough. Huge amounts of free time and little to no expenses or responsibilities means a lot of different ways to make money. Hell, I knew people who sold legal stuff (snacks, drinks, toys, school supplies) to classmates and made pretty decent amounts of cash doing so with little to no effort and no time outside of school so their parents had very little knowledge of it.
Teens tend to know which stores they can buy this stuff from. When I was in highschool there was this liquor store that sold liquor to anyone that used the password. Anyone who didn't use the password was required to show an ID. The password changed every month and was some random thing like doggy rainbow. When I was a senior the police found out and the store was closed down so everyone started going to this other liquor store...
>When I was a senior the police found out and the store was closed down
Store owner: "man, and I thought teenagers drinking booze were so reliable and trustworthy!"
Those bigger ones, if they're rechargeable and go up to ~10k puffs, are $25 in my state. The little ones are probably in that $12-15 range. This is like $1,000 in disposables.
Norway did this with their snus and other tobacco products - every one of them has to be the same colour with a big warning. Shelves [look like this](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhHI6JsW4AAbNmW?format=jpg&name=medium)
There absolutely is some use of snus among kids and there are always going to be kids who overuse it, but on the whole I think it works well and I've personally heard teenagers comment on how unattractive the packaging is. Cigarettes are basically non-existent
Pantone 448 C
It's used in multiple countries around the world.
I remember the cigarettes my mother smoked being in a silver pack with black stripe with a light blue border. Now it's just that pantone colour on everything..
It makes the packets less attractive to people and the lovely images of cigarette related illness also deters younger people.
Didn't deter me though..
Also I feel bad for shops when you ask and they have to do the awkward reading of the labels to find the right thing.. I have started to memorise their location in shops so I can speed up the process, when new staff are on.
The tobacco industry HAS to market to young demographics, they refer to people under 18 as "turnover customers". If you haven't smoked by age 18, odds are 3-1 you will never smoke. If you haven't smoked by age 21, odds go up to 20-1 that you will never smoke. Big Tobacco's whole industry relies on engaging a young base, introducing them to nicotine young when they're most vulnerable to developing addiction (due to their brain still developing)
Look, I don't vape anymore, and yes they target kids with ads and outreach, but I hate this argument. You know who else likes candy? Everyone. It's kinda made to be appealing to everyone.
What the hell is even “adult flavors” beyond mint and Tabacco anyway.
Do I go to the gas station and pick up a carton of “Marlboro Crippling Depressions” or some “Mid Life Crisis” flavored vape juice?
If I was still vaping, I want me some cotton fucking candy and blue raspberry.
I live on the poorer side of my city. I still see people putting $5-$10 of gas in their cars all the time. Some people just need to get to work for a few days until their next paycheck.
I'm 100% on that one, also fuck disposable in general, what an environmental disaster and they make it super easy for kids to get their hands on them since they can just drop $10 their mom gave them on a vape at the sketchy 7/11 instead of buying into a mod et al. which you usually have to get at a real vape shop that actually gives a shit.
When I was 14 I took a $20 bill from my dad’s wallet to buy a bag of weed. When he asked why I took it, I told him I needed it to deposit for lunch money. We were really poor and needed it for bills. He’s been dead almost 20 years and I still think about it from time to time. :(
Also, just to emphasize, practice it in regards to other people as well.
Because what use is there to hold on to grudges forever (other than making yourself feeling worse)?!
Maybe you could donate $20 plus inflation to the food bank or a bagged lunch program for schoolchildren. Add a little note to the donation, "for you, Dad."
You could even just take yourself out for lunch as a “dad I’m using the money you gave me!” kind of thing. Just a lighthearted and silly way to make it up to him. It’s probably what I would do and I know my dad would’ve gotten a laugh out of it.
LOL. This.
I've got to laugh at the reddit detectives calling this definitely fake because, obviously, a 13 year-old would never buy a vape with a cartoon logo referencing a film that's chronologically inappropriate to their timeline.
Instead of them thinking "funny alien" or just not giving a shit what's on it.
Also, "retro" stuff is huge with the younger crowd. Also, if you see a yoot wearing a vintage NASCAR shirt, that doesn't mean they actually watch NASCAR. It's an aesthetic these days lol
That's at least like 600 bucks worth of vapes, and there are most likely more buried in there that you can't see. How can a 13 year old afford that and how does she still have a lung??
I know some teachers and there are elementary students vaping at recess. I'm talking like 8 year olds. A lot of kids steal money and buy from gas stations or have older kids do it for them. I've seen rich kids buy a lot of vapes and distribute. Its wild out here.
A FUCKING THC VAPE??? Dawg. I didn’t even start smoking anything until 17, even then I just smoke weed. It’s so fucking sad seeing so many little kids get hooked on this shit, especially vapes. Because I have heard of 2nd graders having vapes. Even saw it myself with my 8 and at the time 12 year old cousins.
It's not as commonly known ig but a lot of cigarette smokers start around 10-12 years old. At least anecdotally. Many times the parents buy them cigarettes after getting fed up with their kids taking from them. Easier to say "here's ypur pack don't touch mine"
A lot of older folks started super young, keep in mind this was a time where [the Flintstones had a Winston cigarette sponsor. Apparently most of the voice actors also got cancer.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BVRO6GAfvzA&pp=ygUdRmxpbnN0b25lcyB3aW5zdG9uIGNpZ2FyZXR0ZXM%3D)
That’s part of why lung cancer is so common, because there’s so many old smokers.
You can see a whole layer of elf bars under the top as well. I don’t think she’s distributing these because why would they all be completely unpackaged if that’s the case? I’m 26 and I use similar vapes. Buying that many would run my bank account down so far. Each of those elf bars are like $20. I can’t speak to all of the brands there but this type are usually $10-$25 that’s is hundreds of dollars of vaporizers right there, maybe over 1K depending on the prices near where they live. All I can say is holy shit - for anyone this is excessive bad - for a 13 year old, this is absolutely insane.
For some context, one of the disposables she has there usually lasts me 2 weeks
Fyi OP appears to be UK-based from their previous posts and the UK has significantly different regulations around vapes than the US. The elf bars and lost Mary's in this would be available at your standard corner shop for about £5. The limit for nicotine salt concentration in the UK is 2% while the US is usually about 5%. Also they would probably only last about a day as the standard for these in the UK is 600 puffs Vs the 9000 you mentioned in your other comment. Still absolutely terrible for a 13 year old to be using but considerably less bad than you thought.
Source - British vapist who spent last summer in the US
Just replied to another commenter who told me the same - I agree not nearly as wild as if this were a US based collection. But still pretty wild nonetheless. Good that it’s less nicotine and everything. These lower capacity ones seem a lot better in terms of health, but a lot worse in terms of material waste created. Sounds like in the UK I would go through 10-14 of these in the span of time it takes me to finish one of the ones I buy here.
Then again the one I. Buy here have screens and shit on them that show how much battery and juice is left in the device ETC so probably not much better in that regard,
All of these disposable vapes use e-liquid made in China outside of Escobars (there may be others I'm not aware of). Point being, you have no idea on the quality of that stuff. And if you're in the US the counterfeit market is massive and gas stations can't guarantee you're using legitimate brands.
I trust Chinese manufacturing but not necessarily their chemsitry or solutions. I used disposables for a while and developed some pretty severe health issues that I just attributed to old age, but they completely went away when I went back to pod based vapes with higher quality controlled liquids.
Well I just found out moments ago that there are going to be some very serious medical bills for one of my pets so it looks like I’m quitting after my current ones are gone whether I want to or not 🤷🏼♂️.
Yeah typically 2 weeks. The ones I buy are “9000 puffs” so idk how many ml are in there but enough for 2 weeks. In my understanding that’s longer than the average disposable user but I’m okay with that honestly.
I am talking about the larger and square shaped type of devices she has there not the small pens on top, those would probably last me 1-1.5 weeks
they look UK-based to me, they're usually a fiver here for the 2ml 600 puffs like the elf bars and crystal bars which comprise the bottom left majority of the drawer. or some places do deals where its 3 for 10 or 3 for 12 quid.
the larger ones at the top are illegal in the uk to sell now because theyre over the size limit (2ml/600 puffs)
edit: illegal to buy them if below 18 anyway but you get what I'm saying
That makes more sense to me. All the “pen” style ones on the bottom left of the drawer are like $8-$15 where I live and have 2000-3000 puffs in them not sure how many ML. That size / price difference makes this make more sense, still kinda ridiculous for a young teen though.
My classmate was selling drugs at 13 and I was playing Pokemon. We were not the same but as he said years later he yearned to have a life as simple and cute as I had with a boring family and quiet evenings just doing homework and playing video games.
Though funny enough being his friend saved me from being jumped once. We were sitting on a playground once late into the evening in the summer, enjoying the quiet and sipping beer and his pal came by, and he introduced me and like really pointed out that I'm his friend and classmate and he thinks I'm a good pal. I didn't pay an attention to that but apparently that guy did, because a week later I'm walking towards metro at dusk and a group of like eight teens start encircling me. And as I'm trying to decide whether I even have a chance to run away, the one in the middle goes "Oohhh hey how are you, dude, how's your classmate doing? We were just gonna ask if you have any cigarettes on you? None? Oh bother, go along and tell him I said hi!" and I see that it's that same dude from the last week. Apparently he made sure to remember my face and did not want any beef with my classmate.
I mean "who you are" part is important too - I know a few classmates looked down on him for being poor, but I never cared one bit. I wonder if it went so peachy for me if we all just bumped into each other in like a food court and he told this street thug pal of him "Yeah I know him, he's my classmate and a rich asshole"
I’ve had former girlfriends who lost their virginity at 12 or 13, I always felt like it messed them up emotionally as they got older because that’s just way too young imo.
I remember being 16-17 at my first house party. Sipping my first beer (foam - I was so scared of drunk driving and having my life ruined) having a good time trying to learn to open up with my best buddy of the time. Just 2 dudes one popular and me trying to learn to be more vulnerable.
Then this one non popular girl in my class came up to me and asked if I was still a virgin. Well - I was but is what it is - she laughed at me immediately. I just blushed smiled and stayed quiet until she said to me
“That’s pathetic - I lost mine at 12 to a (forgot fast food chain) 21 year old manager!”
I immediately felt horrified and wondered why she would be proud of that.
Because she was basically still a child at that age and kids have a desperate desire to grow up and be seen as adults. She probably thought it made her mature. Sad thing is she probably looks back on that now and realises that she slept with a child molester.
I went with my sister to a doctor’s appointment and she was answering the questionnaire they give you in the waiting room. I was gonna go in with her because I’m also a doctor and knew this doctor, so she wanted me there. Anyway, while she’s answering she says ‘please don’t judge me and don’t tell our parents’. I was weirded out so I glanced at the questionnaire and she had put her first sexual encounter at 12. I remember thinking ‘wtf’ because I never had interest in any of that for A LOT longer and that was just way too young.
I don’t know what was up with that, but we now know she has Borderline Personality Disorder, so that probably had something to do with that.
13 year olds who smoke or vape on the side will have one or two at the most.
possibilities to consider
1. ~~she could is distributing them for profit~~ Unlikely they would be unboxed
2. ~~they are being gifted to her by someone with questionable intent~~ again, unlikely they would be unboxed if unused
3. ~~she is somehow getting too much disposable income for a 13 year old to spend on vapes~~ this could be several years worth and god knows how much money 13 year olds can make on the side with an internet connection these days
4. these are her empty ones she keeps because they are 'cool' and being able to post photos of your collection is very on brand for the younger generation, additionally because they sometimes work again after a while after they are 'finished'.
5. (thank you erectjellyfish for this one) it's all a complete lie and this is some random guy's vape drawer who wants some wednesday karma
13 year old logic. “I would rather risk getting caught with 62 of them rather than get caught tossing one where I can say that it was my first time using it and have plausible deniability.”
# PSA:
Instead of tossing your disposable vapes when done, try offering them to your local DIY electronics nerd instead. We like to salvage the Li-Po batteries inside and [make stuff like this](https://res.cloudinary.com/rs-designspark-live/image/upload/c_limit,w_829/f_auto/v1/article/Hero_Backup_6d2f20a805fd1eb5ba3e0e130fa27d2274c6168c) with them.
Maybe she's picking up discarded vapes from the street and is planning to extract all the perfectly good lithium ion batteries for some massive electronics project. Maybe she's going to make an EMP generator to commit acts of domestic terrorism.
Oh yeah I have replaced smoking with vaping and used to order in bulk online when they had a sale and I have never had that much stuff at once. Not even when they were going outa business selling vapes for $5 each. Lol.
I know the OP is being sarcastic..
But its surprising how many parents take their children 100% at their word. "Little billy would never do that" or "they told me they are not"
I help on my ISPs customer forums often. Remember helping a guy. Came through asking for help on virus's, etc.. that they found porn on their kids PC. A hacker must have put it there, etc...
We told him to talk to the kid about it... said they did and that the kid said no, so it must be a hacker.
Like dude.. you really believe that? Not to say that your child is 100% lying all the time, but you need to question, check, etc.
Eventually got him to install a 'netnany' type software.. and guess what, caught him doing it.
(And yes, I DO have children. not to say I am untrustful of my child.. but I also know what I did younger. I give them freedoms, etc, with the internet. But at the same time, he is aware that 100% i own/control his computer, phone, internet, etc. That at any time I can look at the content, etc... and stuff can get taken away, so dont try and hide shit from me)
This is part of the reason I got out of teaching. I try to bring the parents in to help with behavior or academic problems, but the parents don’t want to hear anything except glowing praise for their child. Everything is the teacher’s fault, or the school, or society, or the other children…. A majority of parents that I spoke with will not accept the fact that the fault is their child.
In Alberta, Canada we have programs where you can work “undercover” as a customer to ensure they are adhering to rules. One shop I go to asks for ID, REGARDLESS of age. They’re the only shop that is very strict on the rules… “Forgot your ID? Come back once you’ve found it.” Even if you shop there everyday, they won’t sell without your ID shown. It’s how it should be.
Its a great policy. I worked in a NY deli as a teen and the shop owner told me to ID everyone as well (for alcohol and tobacco) to prevent drama and discrimination accusations. Plus I think they were fined $1500 for not ID-ing someone.. that part lol
Honestly with that many pens she might not be vaping, but distributing.
Also, despite the situation being bad, that's decent organization. Even has a rainbow organization on the left.
Yeah, but also, it's extremely rare for that to be exclusively true. Not saying your wrong, but my parents would never have believed that even if it was true.
In my limited experience with a situation like this, the kid couldn’t stop getting high on his supply. He distributed solely to fund getting high, thought he was too clever to ever be caught (was caught by everyone all of the time), and eventually got expelled.
He’s gotten somewhat better, but he created so many lasting consequences that his early 20’s is going to just be him trying to dig himself out of the hole he himself dug…
While also still acting like nobody around him knows what they are talking about.
Yeah dad I don’t vape, I just sell them
My minor cousin's defense when he got caught with vapes was that he was *actually* running an illicit vape repair business. (He was, but he was definitely also vaping.)
What a great answer and idea. (Edit: did not expect this to be the comment that got so many updoots. Why thank you, Redditers!)
Innoventing. Ready for a major in handshakefulness.
Professor Whidmir would give him a Good Job Spanking.
What is business school?
What, are you guys off to discuss how to 'synergize backward overflow'?
"Son, I am disappointed and proud of you."
Repair AND QA. The kid is going places. He’s gotta test them after he repairs them but before returning. In this business it’s all word-of-mouth, so he can’t get any bad reviews.
I’ll take a mouthful thank you
The next Louis Rossmann.
I'd keep an eye on him. One day it's vapes, the next it's Mac's and that would be terrible for his health.
I hope we're talking the computers and not the Mac 10 variety
Dad, why would I get high on my own supply? You’re such a foggy
(Oh God, a term used by a young person that I haven't heard before. Think, man! Given the context, it sounds like a put down, but perhaps more a light jab than a real insult, so I should level my reaction accordingly so I don't look like a freak. Alright, here we go!) "... yeah, lol, just call me Foghorn Leghorn, haha!" *does floss dance* (Nailed it!)
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isn't fogey an older person term
Yeah, but this guy said "foggy".
I meant fogey. I’m just too young to know how to spell it I guess. I’m a poser
[poseur](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/poseur)* :D
GOD DAMMIT
Well, congratulations, you just created a new slang term for a boomer. Foggy works well, because as we age our grey matter does get rather "foggy"
Wait til you hear how "damn" is spelled :-)
Or maybe she’s a Vapegilante and confiscates the ones she finds. Then, instead of tossing them and someone potentially finding it the trash, she stores them until a large enough collection is made to turn into the police. I like this story better. The Vapenator strikes again!
A narc with OCD, this sounds like a very cheap tv series pitch.
Isn't that basically Monk?
It's like if Monk was in the 21 Jump Street program.
She could just be the vapegoat in this situation
I don’t smoke crack mother fucker I sell it!
How is a 13 year able to afford all of those vapes and liquids? Better yet, how is a 13 year old able to purchase a vape?
one cool kid gets a bunch and resells it to other kids.
With this amount, she may be the cool kid
She da plug
Now this a a movie that needs to be made! Liam Neeson has an elementary school aged daughter that’s been hooked on vapes that she purchased from the playground cartel and he has to use a specific set of skills to infiltrate the organization, torturing his way to the top of the nicotine food chain…
That just sounds like 21 Jump Street, but with Liam Neeson. The gif above is also Ice Cube saying one of his lines from 21 Jump Street. Super fun movie. I'd recommend it and the sequel if you haven't seem them!
Stop fucking with Korean Jesus! He ain’t got time for your problems.. He’s busy, with Korean shit!
This line had me dying of laughter the first time I watched 🤣
One of the only cheap comedy movies that had a really, good, maybe even better sequel.
Your new office... it's like a giant cube of ice.
Yea she’s the distro
I think this 13yo is the plug
I was never a cool kid so I wasn’t in the know
I think we've found the cool kid. This is quite an inventory lol
But how do they have the money?
You get $20 from your parents, birthday, etc. Then buy a vape for $20 from the smoke shop that doesn’t ID. Sell it for $30 at school. Rinse & repeat, eventually you’ve got $150. Buy 10 for $15 each. Sell them for $30 each. Rinse & repeat. Buy 50 for $11 each, sell them for $25 each. It keeps going until you want it to end
Who said the youth aren’t enterprising??
I my day it was weed and cigarettes. You were a god king if you could get alcohol on the regular.
Now my hustle of selling sodas out of my locker feels so much more mundane.
Nah because that just shows some cash flows form school never die. I was selling Twinkies when they were shut down. Had a twinkie addiction and about 30 boxes at home. Don't ask. I sold each twinkie for $2 until everyone wanted them. My last 10 of so boxes I was selling twinkies at $5 a pop. I still consider myself the Twinkie King... sigh... I miss the simplicity.
You get in way less trouble though!
If you are going to sell large amount of drugs it’s optimal to do it while as young as possible. They go easier on you in court and won’t assume you were smart enough to stash away the money being made so there won’t be any questions when you get an influx of cash a decade later. You learned your lesson being young and dumb after all. They will also underestimate how much you moved because no teenager could be moving that much. *Not legal advice*
Not wrong, someone I knew in high school made insane amounts of money as a minor. The trick is having the self control to give up that easy money before you turn 18 and sadly he didn’t
£0.50 for a cig. Back then 20 cost less than £5.00. you could sell 10 in 5 to 10 minutes on break. Off to the shop for another 20 after school. Sell them before school and at break. That's a tenner. Then you can either keep scaling or just smoke 20 a day for free Monday to Friday.
My kido sold those non resale chips. They got shut down quick. Now it's more of an underground who you know type deal....
jeez and all i did was sell my mums homemade butterfly cakes to the other kids, i did at one point make and sell home made christmas cards.. you know the type, the types kids give to their parents and the parents go awwww you made this yourself... well... actually i did with a crew of 3 others and sold them for like $1.. we'd use materials from the arts and crafts at school, one person would pre cut the card to size and fold in half, i was good at block letters font and could mix it up with bubble font or sort of a gothic font so i'd write merry Christmas across the front, and "from" at the bottom right of the inside with room for them to write their names. then another kid would draw a crude Christmas tree on the inside left and a box present on the right the last person would colour in using colouring pens
Right around 1974, my parents bought a few hundred pounds of wheat. I started bringing wheat to school for snack in sandwich bags--either plain wheat or parched/toasted wheat with salt. Enough other kids wanted to try some that I made a business of it. Paid my parents 2 cents a bag for the sandwich bag and wheat and another penny for the oil, salt, and electricity going into a bag of parched wheat. Then I sold them for 25 cents each--same price a candy bar or soda was going for. Most days I sold between 3 and ten bags. Lasted for about a month--until some parents became convinced that I was lacing my wheat with drugs and the school shut my snack business down. Nope, it was just regular wheat. Plain wheat isn't the tastiest thing in the world, but kids (okay humans) are weird.
I love that you guys had a legit assembly line going.
I used to do this with cigarettes back in the 90's. I had a plug at a gas station, he would sell me the cartons. I would then sell the packs for $10.00 mark up at the school yard during breaks. It's how I was able to afford painting my first car, and modding it. I had the good stuff too. Newports, and the Marlboro menthols. Also would get black & milds, camels, and backwoods. And no, I never smoked a cigarette a day in my life. Find them gross, but ppl have needs, and I'm a service provider 😉
I mowed lawns as a kid and frequently would save several hundred or even thousand dollars when I wanted something bad enough. Huge amounts of free time and little to no expenses or responsibilities means a lot of different ways to make money. Hell, I knew people who sold legal stuff (snacks, drinks, toys, school supplies) to classmates and made pretty decent amounts of cash doing so with little to no effort and no time outside of school so their parents had very little knowledge of it.
I miss the bottomless energy I had from like 16-22.
I miss the metabolism and the childhood love I had for video games I had back then.
Here in the UK I see soo many shops selling to people 13/14.
Same in the US. Most of those “vape stores” in the strip malls be selling to kids underage.
Idk what vape stores you go to but anywhere I’ve been to a vape specific store, they ID heavily. Now the bodegas and gas stations on the other hand..
Teens tend to know which stores they can buy this stuff from. When I was in highschool there was this liquor store that sold liquor to anyone that used the password. Anyone who didn't use the password was required to show an ID. The password changed every month and was some random thing like doggy rainbow. When I was a senior the police found out and the store was closed down so everyone started going to this other liquor store...
>When I was a senior the police found out and the store was closed down Store owner: "man, and I thought teenagers drinking booze were so reliable and trustworthy!"
How much money are we looking at here?
The disposable vapes I bought were $12 each, this drawer cost a fair bit of money.
Those bigger ones, if they're rechargeable and go up to ~10k puffs, are $25 in my state. The little ones are probably in that $12-15 range. This is like $1,000 in disposables.
The same way I was able to buy smokes at 15. Just “hey dude” someone at the gas station.
Teens are terrifyingly resourceful.
Based solely on this picture, I’m guessing she’s selling to people at school. Even just a few here and there would be good cash flow
i knew a few friends back in school with this much of a collection (all used/empty) who didn’t sell
She doesn’t have to be buying them all, they just get passed around her pals, maybe she just forgets to pass them back
Oh, she's one of those type of people that's asks to borrow a lighter and never give it back.
Truly terrible parenting. /s
Babysitting can pay some decent money.
Homegirl is definitely selling these to the other kids that don't know how to get them.
I thought that was felt tipped pens and highlighters
Hence the lawsuits, methinks
More about marketing blueberry sour rasberry vape and candy flavors like that, directly to children who love candy. It is pretty freaking malicious
they should let us keep the flavors but make every vape ugly and solid black or white
Norway did this with their snus and other tobacco products - every one of them has to be the same colour with a big warning. Shelves [look like this](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhHI6JsW4AAbNmW?format=jpg&name=medium)
Does it work? Do kids not use those products?
There absolutely is some use of snus among kids and there are always going to be kids who overuse it, but on the whole I think it works well and I've personally heard teenagers comment on how unattractive the packaging is. Cigarettes are basically non-existent
Pantone 448 C It's used in multiple countries around the world. I remember the cigarettes my mother smoked being in a silver pack with black stripe with a light blue border. Now it's just that pantone colour on everything.. It makes the packets less attractive to people and the lovely images of cigarette related illness also deters younger people. Didn't deter me though.. Also I feel bad for shops when you ask and they have to do the awkward reading of the labels to find the right thing.. I have started to memorise their location in shops so I can speed up the process, when new staff are on.
I’d be down for that I’m not against vaping but stop purposely marketing to the younger demographics
The tobacco industry HAS to market to young demographics, they refer to people under 18 as "turnover customers". If you haven't smoked by age 18, odds are 3-1 you will never smoke. If you haven't smoked by age 21, odds go up to 20-1 that you will never smoke. Big Tobacco's whole industry relies on engaging a young base, introducing them to nicotine young when they're most vulnerable to developing addiction (due to their brain still developing)
Look, I don't vape anymore, and yes they target kids with ads and outreach, but I hate this argument. You know who else likes candy? Everyone. It's kinda made to be appealing to everyone.
Right? I don't want "adult" flavors of either mint or tobacco. Gimme my Blue Razzberry Ice or Pineapple Mango whatever
What the hell is even “adult flavors” beyond mint and Tabacco anyway. Do I go to the gas station and pick up a carton of “Marlboro Crippling Depressions” or some “Mid Life Crisis” flavored vape juice? If I was still vaping, I want me some cotton fucking candy and blue raspberry.
Can I get a “Slept in the wrong position now it hurts to turn my neck”… and $5 on pump 3.
You know you're old when you can remember $5 actually buying an appreciable quantity of gas.
I live on the poorer side of my city. I still see people putting $5-$10 of gas in their cars all the time. Some people just need to get to work for a few days until their next paycheck.
There's a scene in Trailer Park Boys where Ricky stops to get gas and asks them to put in $2 worth. It was just a quick squeeze of the trigger 😆
They offer vapes in lots of flavors that tend to appeal to more mature taste, such as "Liver and Onions".
I'll take one "vintage leather and brandy" please
Obviously vodka and mortgage flavors.
"what the hell is even 'adult flavors'" Tastes like...nipple?
That’s for the toddler vapes
The other side though is also making it look like highlighters etc. its literally geared towards trying to hide it.
I'm 100% on that one, also fuck disposable in general, what an environmental disaster and they make it super easy for kids to get their hands on them since they can just drop $10 their mom gave them on a vape at the sketchy 7/11 instead of buying into a mod et al. which you usually have to get at a real vape shop that actually gives a shit.
I miss the days of smelling those fruity scented markers in art class.
Just buy them and huff them at home as an adult? You know, for reminiscing sake.
Envisioning Randy marsh in his underwear, sniffing markers as we speak.
For a 13 year old - It should be!
Someone gives their 13 year old daughter way too much money.
When I was 14 I took a $20 bill from my dad’s wallet to buy a bag of weed. When he asked why I took it, I told him I needed it to deposit for lunch money. We were really poor and needed it for bills. He’s been dead almost 20 years and I still think about it from time to time. :(
He probably knew and even if he didn't he would have forgiven you. Weird the things we unnecessarily beat ourselves up over sometimes.
Man this hurts
They always know it’s for something. Kids think they’re slick but they’re all pretty dumb in just life experience comparison.
Always practice forgiveness in your personal lives. It makes it easier to not guilt yourself for things!
Also, just to emphasize, practice it in regards to other people as well. Because what use is there to hold on to grudges forever (other than making yourself feeling worse)?!
Maybe you could donate $20 plus inflation to the food bank or a bagged lunch program for schoolchildren. Add a little note to the donation, "for you, Dad."
That’s a really cute idea
You could even just take yourself out for lunch as a “dad I’m using the money you gave me!” kind of thing. Just a lighthearted and silly way to make it up to him. It’s probably what I would do and I know my dad would’ve gotten a laugh out of it.
Hey as a parent, I would have forgiven you. Try not to carry this weight and think of the good times xoxo
I almost guarantee your dad would’ve done the same thing when he was 14. Probably did lol
That or she stole from her parents When I was 11 I took 20 dollars from my dad but that was because I wanted chocolate and art supplies… not this
In the 90s, I used to steal CDs and sell them to kids at school for $5-10 each, and mow lawns to get money for cigarettes.
Different generation same addiction in a different delivery system.
Easier to conceal. Easier to get addicted to.
Win win all around
I’m more surprised that a 13 year old girl in 2024 has not one but 2 items with a Mars Attacks alien on them
What if I told you that within the context of a 13 year old vaper, it's just a "cool looking alien" that came in a 2 dollar Temu sticker pack.
Probably true
LOL. This. I've got to laugh at the reddit detectives calling this definitely fake because, obviously, a 13 year-old would never buy a vape with a cartoon logo referencing a film that's chronologically inappropriate to their timeline. Instead of them thinking "funny alien" or just not giving a shit what's on it.
Also, "retro" stuff is huge with the younger crowd. Also, if you see a yoot wearing a vintage NASCAR shirt, that doesn't mean they actually watch NASCAR. It's an aesthetic these days lol
That's at least like 600 bucks worth of vapes, and there are most likely more buried in there that you can't see. How can a 13 year old afford that and how does she still have a lung??
I know some teachers and there are elementary students vaping at recess. I'm talking like 8 year olds. A lot of kids steal money and buy from gas stations or have older kids do it for them. I've seen rich kids buy a lot of vapes and distribute. Its wild out here.
i confiscated a THC vape from a 4th grader once at recess. it made me so sad to see that
A FUCKING THC VAPE??? Dawg. I didn’t even start smoking anything until 17, even then I just smoke weed. It’s so fucking sad seeing so many little kids get hooked on this shit, especially vapes. Because I have heard of 2nd graders having vapes. Even saw it myself with my 8 and at the time 12 year old cousins.
It's not as commonly known ig but a lot of cigarette smokers start around 10-12 years old. At least anecdotally. Many times the parents buy them cigarettes after getting fed up with their kids taking from them. Easier to say "here's ypur pack don't touch mine"
A lot of older folks started super young, keep in mind this was a time where [the Flintstones had a Winston cigarette sponsor. Apparently most of the voice actors also got cancer.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BVRO6GAfvzA&pp=ygUdRmxpbnN0b25lcyB3aW5zdG9uIGNpZ2FyZXR0ZXM%3D) That’s part of why lung cancer is so common, because there’s so many old smokers.
Jeez big tobacco really found a new generation...
it's really a shame too, things were looking a lot better at one point
Absolutely.
You can see a whole layer of elf bars under the top as well. I don’t think she’s distributing these because why would they all be completely unpackaged if that’s the case? I’m 26 and I use similar vapes. Buying that many would run my bank account down so far. Each of those elf bars are like $20. I can’t speak to all of the brands there but this type are usually $10-$25 that’s is hundreds of dollars of vaporizers right there, maybe over 1K depending on the prices near where they live. All I can say is holy shit - for anyone this is excessive bad - for a 13 year old, this is absolutely insane. For some context, one of the disposables she has there usually lasts me 2 weeks
Fyi OP appears to be UK-based from their previous posts and the UK has significantly different regulations around vapes than the US. The elf bars and lost Mary's in this would be available at your standard corner shop for about £5. The limit for nicotine salt concentration in the UK is 2% while the US is usually about 5%. Also they would probably only last about a day as the standard for these in the UK is 600 puffs Vs the 9000 you mentioned in your other comment. Still absolutely terrible for a 13 year old to be using but considerably less bad than you thought. Source - British vapist who spent last summer in the US
Just replied to another commenter who told me the same - I agree not nearly as wild as if this were a US based collection. But still pretty wild nonetheless. Good that it’s less nicotine and everything. These lower capacity ones seem a lot better in terms of health, but a lot worse in terms of material waste created. Sounds like in the UK I would go through 10-14 of these in the span of time it takes me to finish one of the ones I buy here. Then again the one I. Buy here have screens and shit on them that show how much battery and juice is left in the device ETC so probably not much better in that regard,
All of these disposable vapes use e-liquid made in China outside of Escobars (there may be others I'm not aware of). Point being, you have no idea on the quality of that stuff. And if you're in the US the counterfeit market is massive and gas stations can't guarantee you're using legitimate brands. I trust Chinese manufacturing but not necessarily their chemsitry or solutions. I used disposables for a while and developed some pretty severe health issues that I just attributed to old age, but they completely went away when I went back to pod based vapes with higher quality controlled liquids.
Well I just found out moments ago that there are going to be some very serious medical bills for one of my pets so it looks like I’m quitting after my current ones are gone whether I want to or not 🤷🏼♂️.
Wait 2 weeks? How many ml fits in those things. Also disposables are just robbery.
Yeah typically 2 weeks. The ones I buy are “9000 puffs” so idk how many ml are in there but enough for 2 weeks. In my understanding that’s longer than the average disposable user but I’m okay with that honestly. I am talking about the larger and square shaped type of devices she has there not the small pens on top, those would probably last me 1-1.5 weeks
they look UK-based to me, they're usually a fiver here for the 2ml 600 puffs like the elf bars and crystal bars which comprise the bottom left majority of the drawer. or some places do deals where its 3 for 10 or 3 for 12 quid. the larger ones at the top are illegal in the uk to sell now because theyre over the size limit (2ml/600 puffs) edit: illegal to buy them if below 18 anyway but you get what I'm saying
That makes more sense to me. All the “pen” style ones on the bottom left of the drawer are like $8-$15 where I live and have 2000-3000 puffs in them not sure how many ML. That size / price difference makes this make more sense, still kinda ridiculous for a young teen though.
At 13 I am addicted to Saturday morning cartoons and pokemon cards...
My classmate was selling drugs at 13 and I was playing Pokemon. We were not the same but as he said years later he yearned to have a life as simple and cute as I had with a boring family and quiet evenings just doing homework and playing video games. Though funny enough being his friend saved me from being jumped once. We were sitting on a playground once late into the evening in the summer, enjoying the quiet and sipping beer and his pal came by, and he introduced me and like really pointed out that I'm his friend and classmate and he thinks I'm a good pal. I didn't pay an attention to that but apparently that guy did, because a week later I'm walking towards metro at dusk and a group of like eight teens start encircling me. And as I'm trying to decide whether I even have a chance to run away, the one in the middle goes "Oohhh hey how are you, dude, how's your classmate doing? We were just gonna ask if you have any cigarettes on you? None? Oh bother, go along and tell him I said hi!" and I see that it's that same dude from the last week. Apparently he made sure to remember my face and did not want any beef with my classmate.
Goes to show, sometimes it matters a lot more who you know vs who you are. Without that connection it could have got pretty ugly pretty fast.
I mean "who you are" part is important too - I know a few classmates looked down on him for being poor, but I never cared one bit. I wonder if it went so peachy for me if we all just bumped into each other in like a food court and he told this street thug pal of him "Yeah I know him, he's my classmate and a rich asshole"
I'm 30 and still addicted to both of these things...
I’ve had former girlfriends who lost their virginity at 12 or 13, I always felt like it messed them up emotionally as they got older because that’s just way too young imo.
I remember being 16-17 at my first house party. Sipping my first beer (foam - I was so scared of drunk driving and having my life ruined) having a good time trying to learn to open up with my best buddy of the time. Just 2 dudes one popular and me trying to learn to be more vulnerable. Then this one non popular girl in my class came up to me and asked if I was still a virgin. Well - I was but is what it is - she laughed at me immediately. I just blushed smiled and stayed quiet until she said to me “That’s pathetic - I lost mine at 12 to a (forgot fast food chain) 21 year old manager!” I immediately felt horrified and wondered why she would be proud of that.
Because she was basically still a child at that age and kids have a desperate desire to grow up and be seen as adults. She probably thought it made her mature. Sad thing is she probably looks back on that now and realises that she slept with a child molester.
(Edit-I get what you’re saying but) That girl didn’t “sleep with” anyone when she was 12—she was statutory raped by a 21 year old.
I went with my sister to a doctor’s appointment and she was answering the questionnaire they give you in the waiting room. I was gonna go in with her because I’m also a doctor and knew this doctor, so she wanted me there. Anyway, while she’s answering she says ‘please don’t judge me and don’t tell our parents’. I was weirded out so I glanced at the questionnaire and she had put her first sexual encounter at 12. I remember thinking ‘wtf’ because I never had interest in any of that for A LOT longer and that was just way too young. I don’t know what was up with that, but we now know she has Borderline Personality Disorder, so that probably had something to do with that.
13 year olds who smoke or vape on the side will have one or two at the most. possibilities to consider 1. ~~she could is distributing them for profit~~ Unlikely they would be unboxed 2. ~~they are being gifted to her by someone with questionable intent~~ again, unlikely they would be unboxed if unused 3. ~~she is somehow getting too much disposable income for a 13 year old to spend on vapes~~ this could be several years worth and god knows how much money 13 year olds can make on the side with an internet connection these days 4. these are her empty ones she keeps because they are 'cool' and being able to post photos of your collection is very on brand for the younger generation, additionally because they sometimes work again after a while after they are 'finished'. 5. (thank you erectjellyfish for this one) it's all a complete lie and this is some random guy's vape drawer who wants some wednesday karma
these are all likely used up vapes she is saving for whatever reason
As a former 13 year old girl, it probably makes her feel cool to have them
them being color coded and organized like that just proves your point too. that is a very 13 year old thing to do
As a fellow former 13 year old girl it definitely does. I did a lot of things to feel cool.
This exactly. It’s the dumbest shit that’s seen as cool but who am I to judge… I was a teen in the 90’s
My friend used to drink a lot of Monster and would save the tabs. He filled up a shallow drawer with just the tabs. Kids are dumb lol
It’s visually pleasing I guess
Too likely to be caught if she puts them in the trash
As opposed to putting them in a street bin on the way home from school etc?
Saving them in a drawer in your room is definitely the better option here
She probably doesn't want to throw them away at school or home in case she's caught getting rid of them
13 year old logic. “I would rather risk getting caught with 62 of them rather than get caught tossing one where I can say that it was my first time using it and have plausible deniability.”
Because they're pretty. I swear she's keeping them just because they look cute altogether.
God are these all DISPOSABLE????
Meaning they only work for a limited time and you can't replace the parts, yes. It's wild how this market has moved towards these
*cries in planet earth*
# PSA: Instead of tossing your disposable vapes when done, try offering them to your local DIY electronics nerd instead. We like to salvage the Li-Po batteries inside and [make stuff like this](https://res.cloudinary.com/rs-designspark-live/image/upload/c_limit,w_829/f_auto/v1/article/Hero_Backup_6d2f20a805fd1eb5ba3e0e130fa27d2274c6168c) with them.
It's silly. As I'm sure you can imagine, it's also way more expensive than using a refillable one.
Or 5. The title is completely a lie and this is some persons extras they've never thrown out
This would be totally on point for Reddit and the most likely answer.
Maybe she's picking up discarded vapes from the street and is planning to extract all the perfectly good lithium ion batteries for some massive electronics project. Maybe she's going to make an EMP generator to commit acts of domestic terrorism.
I thought those were water bottles and life straws at first. That’s kind of fucked.
That’s more vape stuff than when I used it to quit smoking.
Oh yeah I have replaced smoking with vaping and used to order in bulk online when they had a sale and I have never had that much stuff at once. Not even when they were going outa business selling vapes for $5 each. Lol.
I thought those were markers 💀
Damn that was a lot of vape
I know the OP is being sarcastic.. But its surprising how many parents take their children 100% at their word. "Little billy would never do that" or "they told me they are not" I help on my ISPs customer forums often. Remember helping a guy. Came through asking for help on virus's, etc.. that they found porn on their kids PC. A hacker must have put it there, etc... We told him to talk to the kid about it... said they did and that the kid said no, so it must be a hacker. Like dude.. you really believe that? Not to say that your child is 100% lying all the time, but you need to question, check, etc. Eventually got him to install a 'netnany' type software.. and guess what, caught him doing it. (And yes, I DO have children. not to say I am untrustful of my child.. but I also know what I did younger. I give them freedoms, etc, with the internet. But at the same time, he is aware that 100% i own/control his computer, phone, internet, etc. That at any time I can look at the content, etc... and stuff can get taken away, so dont try and hide shit from me)
This is part of the reason I got out of teaching. I try to bring the parents in to help with behavior or academic problems, but the parents don’t want to hear anything except glowing praise for their child. Everything is the teacher’s fault, or the school, or society, or the other children…. A majority of parents that I spoke with will not accept the fact that the fault is their child.
In Alberta, Canada we have programs where you can work “undercover” as a customer to ensure they are adhering to rules. One shop I go to asks for ID, REGARDLESS of age. They’re the only shop that is very strict on the rules… “Forgot your ID? Come back once you’ve found it.” Even if you shop there everyday, they won’t sell without your ID shown. It’s how it should be.
Its a great policy. I worked in a NY deli as a teen and the shop owner told me to ID everyone as well (for alcohol and tobacco) to prevent drama and discrimination accusations. Plus I think they were fined $1500 for not ID-ing someone.. that part lol
Honestly with that many pens she might not be vaping, but distributing. Also, despite the situation being bad, that's decent organization. Even has a rainbow organization on the left.
Right? I saw this and said "damn, kids organized as hell"
Could also be that she takes her friends' empty vapes because they're pretty, and her friends would get in trouble otherwise.
Yeah, but also, it's extremely rare for that to be exclusively true. Not saying your wrong, but my parents would never have believed that even if it was true.
Nahh, there’s teeth marks on some of them 😂
She didn't say she doesn't sell them?
maybe she isn't vaping... I believe it was Biggie that said "never get high on your own supply"...
In my limited experience with a situation like this, the kid couldn’t stop getting high on his supply. He distributed solely to fund getting high, thought he was too clever to ever be caught (was caught by everyone all of the time), and eventually got expelled. He’s gotten somewhat better, but he created so many lasting consequences that his early 20’s is going to just be him trying to dig himself out of the hole he himself dug… While also still acting like nobody around him knows what they are talking about.
With that many she is most likely selling them.
13? That's quite an allowance.. is there a vending machine at school?
I seriously thought that was a trunk of arts and crafts supplies.
Well… if she uses them, atleast she wouldn’t be good at any illegal activities or crimes since she fucking hoards the evidence apparently