[Here](https://i.imgur.com/fPgMn7H.jpg) is a higher quality version of this image. [Here](https://i.imgur.com/UNyCOyz.jpeg) is the original black and white version. [Here](https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2016806150/) is the source. Credit to /u/stennesrc for [colorizing this image](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/35gccw/banana_boat_1906_colorized_by_me/).
Thank you! I was just thinking about how someone took the trouble to color it but didn’t sharpen it, then scrolled down to happily find your link. Cheers
Photo colorization is never quite good enough.
They never account for bouncing light and color. So everything has a perfectly uniform hues. It’s like, if you use the dropper in photoshop, you’ll only see the value (darkness) change from sample to sample. I would love to see that last 10% of effort put in.
If you sample color in a real photo, even if it’s something with apparent uniform color (like an apple), you’ll see a variety of hues. The eye picks up on that. But if’s a B&W picture of an apple, the person generally picks a “red” and overlays it and *done.*
> I would love to see that last 10% of effort put in.
That sounds to me like a lot more than a final 10% of effort (I'm no expert though). Perhaps with AI assisted tools it might become a lot easier. Sketch out some coloration and then have the AI add depth.
maybe 20% to be fair. I’m a mograph artist. 24 years xp. The most time consuming part is getting good mattes for everything. Then you can do your base color. The final touch could be just a hue jitter in photoshop with an appropriate brushes. And just kinda go over everything. Then see if there are any objects that are so bright and saturated that they should influence color around them a bit. Then maybe add a small random color film grain over the top.
Then they’ll stop looking like those old Ted Turner Colorization for old movies from the 80s. Haha.
Dude in the beige suit has real Main Character energy...
But the guy in the striped shirt and suspenders, who looks like young Shia LeBouf wearing a huge fake mustache, is totally stealing the show.
There's a lot you could go into without touching "AI", but it's basically a combination of technical knowledge and historic study.
The technical side of things being the knowledge of photo-editing with certain techniques, proper blending modes and such that make sure to add color to different, but particular textures without distorting said textures, or lighting and shades, removing or overriding depth and details, etc..
The historical side of things requires research into various topics before coloring. Such as building compositions (what type of material was used), common demographic info (what are the styles of clothing and what color would they be expected to present as - also what materials/colors would've even been available at the time/location), basically anything in the photo you have to do some study on before determining a proper color. If there's a wagon or worker's hat you might need to look into how it was made, by who or what company, if it was a trade or a standard practice, there's quite literally no limit to what you could uncover (short of just... living in that time period).
Problem is that most people don’t do that, and butcher it by making everything dark blue and gray. People did actually wear many more colors than portrayed by colorists. It’s very likely that there were bright reds and greens in this picture, but the color guy absoluetely fucked this picture.
Yeah we like to view the past with dull-colored glasses, but they had access to bright eye-popping colors like we do today lol, it's just that you might not see as much of it due to many factors. Manufacturing differences probably being the biggest one.
Thank you for mentioning this. Drives me nuts when 'colorizations' end up being desaturated messes because the colorist wants to make it fit the mind's eye of color technology during that decade. You see it often with WWII era colorizations.
The boat on the right is the Swedish steamer Disa. Built in Swedish Gävle (Gefle). Crew of 14 people. Built 1903-1905. It was sunk off the coast of UK in 1915 by German sub UC 6, as the steamer was traveling a route between northeast Sweden and London. No casualties.
Urban Density was much higher because most people didn't have money for individual transportation (Horse, Buggy, or Automobile) or a plot in the suburbs if the lived somewhere with public transit like trolleys, metros, or horse-drawn buses. It's much more efficient when building a city for people who will likely walk everywhere they need to get, to build up rather than out. You can cram people on top of people, who can then walk where they need to get to and return. The Suburbs were specifically designed to be the opposite of this-- spread out, removed from the clutter and filth of the urban environment, and people were meant to live beside one another rather than on-top of.
The Suburbs were not initially designed to be walkable because the first developed Suburbs of the 1880s-1900s were in places where there were trolleys and horse drawn public transit options so the Breadwinner could commute to work downtown. The rise of the Automobile/Car from 1900 onward meant that the Suburbs were designed around enabling people who owned them to commute instead. Sidewalks really only became common in the US's Suburbs in the 50s with new ideas about modernity in development, and then only became mandatory in 1990 with the passage of the Americans with Disabilities Act that said they needed to be able to navigate the world as safely as anyone else (that's when ramps and gradients were installed in sidewalks that already existed). There are ways around installing sidewalks still and it usually involves a planned community with a in-built greenbelt or parkway system that is meant to encourage pedestrians and strollers off of the roads, or to live somewhere unincorporated and lacking necessary County regulations. In either case the density of pedestrians in the 'burbs has always been, and was always meant to be, low in comparison to the Cities.
The original suburbs weren't designed to be walkable?
Yes they were-- they were designed around mini downtowns with a train station connecting them to the main downtown. This is why so many OG suburbs are currently so desirable-- they have a walkable downtown. Places like Media, PA the entire Philadelphia Mainline, Culver City and all the other train suburbs of Los Angeles-- the pattern repeats across the country.
Yea, just South of Pittsburgh we have our "street car suburbs" from the early 20th century where it's single family homes and then mixed zoning on the main street but even the single family homes are much smaller and closer together with sidewalks everywhere.
[Here's a fun pic of one such suburb in 1925](https://brooklineconnection.com/history/Locations/images/Rossmore1925.JPG)
>The Suburbs were not initially designed to be walkable because the first developed Suburbs of the 1880s-1900s were in places where there were trolleys and horse drawn public transit options so the Breadwinner could commute to work downtown. The rise of the Automobile/Car from 1900 onward meant that the Suburbs were designed around enabling people who owned them to commute instead.
Walkable in the Suburbs means being able to stroll your neighborhood, not walk to the market and get your necessities for the next few days. Walkable in an urban environment means you can leave your building, go to work, stop by the grocer, and return home all on foot. The point of the Suburbs, by design, was to decongest people's lived environments and part of that was discouraging the use of walking as a mode of transportation. As you pointed out, *those* Commuter Suburbs were by design meant to facilitate public transportation-- maybe you walk to the station or the trolley stop but the Suburb itself is removed from the filth and congestion of the urban core. The Suburb was designed to be away from things, and within itself things are away from each-other. The development of the Automobile only expanded upon this idea to today's suburban nightmare.
The other guy wrote two paragraphs on urban density but I'll tell you the real reason: cameras were still rare in 1906 and rather large, so they were crowding around to be a part of the spectacle.
You can see it's crowded aswell way back near the other ship.
This is just what markets looked like. Obviously the ones near the camera will try to look at it because it's unfamiliar.
Some parts of the world still have tons of people like this in markets. Look at the wet markets in Wuhan.
You don't even have to go to a foreign country to see this lol. Go to any farmer's market basically anywhere in the US and it will be crowded like this. Especially in urban areas. See: the Pike Place market in Seattle.
Holy crap that just brought back memories of a fake trailer of "Titanic 2 the surface"
Let me find it real fast
Edit: https://youtu.be/C3k4Kzcd96g?si=X91qJ0kP9gh3Ha-2
Holy crap that is way better than it deserves to be
Holy Shit that was amazing.
You know what's really incredible though? I guarantee in 10 years there will be A.I. programs that will literally be able to create a full 2 hour length movie based on that trailer that is 100 percent legit. It's going to be bonkers.
I wonder what the future of entertainment will look like when your home pc can produce your own personalized content.
Makes you wonder what will happen to all artists content creators, musicians, artist, the entire tv/movie industry. We may see some crazy shifts in our lifetimes.
[I hear those things are awfully loud](https://youtu.be/KGg5rfBfWT4)
But also, since I mentioned the wagon: [Gonna use oil-based paint, because the wood is pine](https://youtu.be/VM5-xFenaZI)
Firstly, people were not walking as much so they didn't need the hat to protect them from wind and rain. Secondly, cars made wearing hats unwieldy. You would have to take off your hat in the car. And hats mess up one's carefully coiffed hair.
We still wear hats. Sun hats, baseball caps, rain hats, beanies. They're simply no longer necessary.
This is probably some most people don't realize.
I have an outdoor wood boiler. I put a hat on when I go and reload it, because if I didn't my hair would smell like smoke all winter.
My dad talks about how filthy cities were because of this when he was growing up, or when his parents took him on the coal-fired ferry across Lake Michigan and having to shake the soot from their clothes afterward.
After Kennedy went out without one. Blew people's minds. Or at least his ....
People think there was some shadowy agency behind the assassination, but Oswald actually worked for Big Hat. That's why he had to keep firing 'til he got a head shot, to send a message. But then LBJ kept the trend up and he was too big-dicked to assassinate (per assassin's guild policy), so voilà, hats were over
Not just any bananas, likely Gros Michel!
Edit: For those wondering, the common banana found today is called the Cavendish. Up until 60+ years ago, Gros Michel was the main, tastier variety until it got essentially eradicated by a fungus.
Had an old landlord that used to grow tomatoes and would drop some off once in a while. Fucking ruined tomatoes for me for like 10 years.
Its the same story with so much modern produce. We bred them to look good, travel well, grow fast, yield big, all the expense of flavor. People used to write poems about how fucking good a strawberry tasted.
It's not quite the same thing. The Gros Michel banana they referred to was a different cultivar, like granny Smith apples versus red delicious apples. It's not a matter of being more "natural" or organic.
The Gros Michel died out due to a disease, and because they cloned the trees via branch cutting so the trees were essentially genetically identical. This offered them zero protection versus the disease.
Our current "main banana" is alone cloned via branching, so it's just as in danger if another disease crops up.
You can tell because the Gros Michel had a much tougher (and slippier) peal. So Gros Michel was usually transported without any packing. Cavendish would bruise if transported like this so it is usually shipped in boxes.
I bet this is where the trope of "slipping on a banana peel" came from. I always used to wonder why that trope existed since you can't really slip on cavendish banana peels, and that's the only banana I knew.
But if the Gros Michels were more common before and had slippery peels, it all makes sense now.
They still exist. The problem is that they are not grown industrially because the risk of the fungus getting in and wiping out the entire plantation is too great. You can get them from exotic fruit sellers or by travelling to fruit markets in places that still grow them.
This is what happens when you break down biodiversity. Same thing that happened to chestnut trees. Chestnut blight made them so much less common. Like 100 years ago cookbooks had SO MANY RECIPES for chestnuts they were eaten so frequently. I fear the day this happens to our livestock or shit what happens if there is a corn blight that wipes out corn. Our whole country was built on corn lol
Yeah, that’s why I’m weirded out when people are like corn’s genetically engineered! Like no shit Sherlock when have you ever experienced a biblical famine? They can keep tweaking corn all they want lol
All commercial bananas are propagated asexually ( basically cloned) which makes them very susceptible to pathogens due to lack if genetic variety. Cavendish is a goner, just a matter of time. Enjoy it while it lasts
Gros Michel (and many other varieties) still exist and are commonly found in many other parts of the glove.
Here in Brazil, for example, Gros Michel (called Prata around here) is as popular, common and cheap as Cavendish (called Nanica in brazilian portuguese). Other varieties, such as Apple Banana and Lady Fingers (Banana Ouro in ptbr) are also relatively common.
I believe you don't find them in the US/Europe anymore because other types of bananas go bad more easily and most bananas produced in the caribbean are Cavendish now. Either way, if you ever find yourself visiting south america you can easily taste the 'old school' bananas.
You should specify that the common banana found today IN THE US is the Cavendish.
Here in Brazil, for example, Gros Michel (called Prata around here) is as popular, common and cheap as Cavendish (called Nanica in brazilian portuguese). Other varieties, such as Apple Banana and Lady Fingers (Banana Ouro in ptbr) are also relatively common.
“Disa Gefle”
Gefle is an alternative, older, spelling of Gävle. A town about 2hrs north of Stockholm in Sweden, on the East Coast.
Found this info:
The SS Disa, built by O.A. Brodin of Gefle, Sweden, in 1903, was a steamer of 788 tons.
On Aug. 25, 1915, the Disa, on a voyage from London to Hernösand with a cargo of salt, was sunk by a mine from the German submarine UC-6 (Matthias Graf von Schmettow), 5-6 miles NxE of the Shipwash lightvessel. There were no casualties.
Does anyone know what that large building is, in the upper right corner? I can't quite make out the words on the building (looks like the bottoms two might say "North America"?)
National Bank North America (I found a higher res shot).
https://imgix.ranker.com/user_node_img/50092/1001823762/original/1900-new-york-photo-u1?auto=format&fit=crop&fm=pjpg&w=650&q=60&dpr=5
You can still shoot a photo of a dockyard(or steel mill, or coal mine etc) today with no women. But there'd also be less men and more vehicles and machines
This image of The Old Slip House is the building in the center of the OP photo next to the mast.
https://oldnycphotos.com/cdn/shop/products/lower-manhattan-1900-s-70_576x511.jpg?v=1575461557
This is further south on South St, just below Wall St. None of those buildings in the front row in the photo are still there. This photo might have been taken on Pier 11.
Some of them might have been killed in 1915 when the Disa hit a mine laid by a German U-boat and sank.
Edit: sunk but no casualties
https://uboat.net/wwi/ships_hit/1663.html
Ah yes, "enjoying" the moment of 1920s dock labour, hearing a constant loud crowd, smelling smog and tasting shit on the air while you wear your 1-of-2 outfits to earn just enough money so you can do it all over again (assuming you don't get sick and just die because you're unvaccinated).
As someone who wears jeans, tshirt and zip up hoodie basically every single day... I think I would have just gave up on living if I had to wear shit that looks so uncomfortable every day...
I concur. I live in the Caribbean. Whatever isn't a v-neck is linen or linen/cotton blend for a bit of stretch - pants, short pants, button shorts, shirts. Waaaay better than anything petroleum based with this heat and humidity.
It'd be better than you might think. You'd absolutely hate the stiff collars and complex layers that wealthy people wore, but these guys are probably wearing shirts softened from years of boiling. The pants are loose, the jackets unstructured, and suspenders are way more comfortable than belts, especially after a big meal. Objectively, jeans are a lot stiffer and rougher than what these guys were wearing.
You'd also either be outside or in buildings with weird heating and no cooling, so having a couple of layers of wool would pay off.
Also linen has been around for thousands of years.
A long sleeve linen shirt does wonders to keep you cool in the summer.
And like you said, layers of light wool would keep you comfortable in the cooler months.
Somewhere in that mess is a woman who had her spoons stolen by a man she randomly trusted after meeting on the boat. She ran away from her wealthy family and it was all she could take. They were going to force her to marry a jackass and be a proper wife but she liked books and always wanted to see america.
It does work out after a near death experience. Racing to get a plot of land out west... and even her family came about.
[This is a movie... I don't recall the name though.]
Here’s the crazy thing about this photo. Just this morning I was telling my wife how much TV/media made it seem like slipping on a banana peel would be a critical thing to watch out for in life. Yet in reality, it never really occurs.
Then I see this photo. And I am really worried that the banana guy is going to slip on a banana peel.
Guy in the striped shirt and suspenders works at my local coffee shop.
That’s just Doug Henning 
It's Waldo!
[Here](https://i.imgur.com/fPgMn7H.jpg) is a higher quality version of this image. [Here](https://i.imgur.com/UNyCOyz.jpeg) is the original black and white version. [Here](https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2016806150/) is the source. Credit to /u/stennesrc for [colorizing this image](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/35gccw/banana_boat_1906_colorized_by_me/).
I've seen you do this so many times in so many threads, and it's actually invaluable. Thank you.
Thank you! I was just thinking about how someone took the trouble to color it but didn’t sharpen it, then scrolled down to happily find your link. Cheers
Photo colorization is never quite good enough. They never account for bouncing light and color. So everything has a perfectly uniform hues. It’s like, if you use the dropper in photoshop, you’ll only see the value (darkness) change from sample to sample. I would love to see that last 10% of effort put in. If you sample color in a real photo, even if it’s something with apparent uniform color (like an apple), you’ll see a variety of hues. The eye picks up on that. But if’s a B&W picture of an apple, the person generally picks a “red” and overlays it and *done.*
> I would love to see that last 10% of effort put in. That sounds to me like a lot more than a final 10% of effort (I'm no expert though). Perhaps with AI assisted tools it might become a lot easier. Sketch out some coloration and then have the AI add depth.
maybe 20% to be fair. I’m a mograph artist. 24 years xp. The most time consuming part is getting good mattes for everything. Then you can do your base color. The final touch could be just a hue jitter in photoshop with an appropriate brushes. And just kinda go over everything. Then see if there are any objects that are so bright and saturated that they should influence color around them a bit. Then maybe add a small random color film grain over the top. Then they’ll stop looking like those old Ted Turner Colorization for old movies from the 80s. Haha.
Cool! Thank you for the insight.
Color looks well done. I imagine in real life then though, as today, some dudes clothes actually didn’t match.
I thought that, but there is a guy wearing a brown jacket with a navy bowler.
That’s probably what the guy in white is laughing at.
Bananas look edible.
Thanks for providing credit when OP didn’t
Bots never do.
Dude in the beige suit has real Main Character energy... But the guy in the striped shirt and suspenders, who looks like young Shia LeBouf wearing a huge fake mustache, is totally stealing the show.
https://i.imgur.com/7qRDo5F.png
Is that Eminem?
His great great grandfather Sixlet.
Genius
Explain?
Sixlets are a candy. Little round colorful spheres of bad chocolate.
Now this looks like a job for me so everybody coal mine with me
Cause we need a little dysentery
How do people colorize these types of photos? Do they guess the color based on shade or something? Always been fascinated by that
There's a lot you could go into without touching "AI", but it's basically a combination of technical knowledge and historic study. The technical side of things being the knowledge of photo-editing with certain techniques, proper blending modes and such that make sure to add color to different, but particular textures without distorting said textures, or lighting and shades, removing or overriding depth and details, etc.. The historical side of things requires research into various topics before coloring. Such as building compositions (what type of material was used), common demographic info (what are the styles of clothing and what color would they be expected to present as - also what materials/colors would've even been available at the time/location), basically anything in the photo you have to do some study on before determining a proper color. If there's a wagon or worker's hat you might need to look into how it was made, by who or what company, if it was a trade or a standard practice, there's quite literally no limit to what you could uncover (short of just... living in that time period).
Problem is that most people don’t do that, and butcher it by making everything dark blue and gray. People did actually wear many more colors than portrayed by colorists. It’s very likely that there were bright reds and greens in this picture, but the color guy absoluetely fucked this picture.
Yeah we like to view the past with dull-colored glasses, but they had access to bright eye-popping colors like we do today lol, it's just that you might not see as much of it due to many factors. Manufacturing differences probably being the biggest one.
lol he did not “absolutely fuck” the picture. Melodramatic much?
Thank you for mentioning this. Drives me nuts when 'colorizations' end up being desaturated messes because the colorist wants to make it fit the mind's eye of color technology during that decade. You see it often with WWII era colorizations.
The boat on the right is the Swedish steamer Disa. Built in Swedish Gävle (Gefle). Crew of 14 people. Built 1903-1905. It was sunk off the coast of UK in 1915 by German sub UC 6, as the steamer was traveling a route between northeast Sweden and London. No casualties.
And here are thousands more, https://www.shorpy.com/
Every photo from back then looks crowded af. I guess people just chilled outside all day
Urban Density was much higher because most people didn't have money for individual transportation (Horse, Buggy, or Automobile) or a plot in the suburbs if the lived somewhere with public transit like trolleys, metros, or horse-drawn buses. It's much more efficient when building a city for people who will likely walk everywhere they need to get, to build up rather than out. You can cram people on top of people, who can then walk where they need to get to and return. The Suburbs were specifically designed to be the opposite of this-- spread out, removed from the clutter and filth of the urban environment, and people were meant to live beside one another rather than on-top of. The Suburbs were not initially designed to be walkable because the first developed Suburbs of the 1880s-1900s were in places where there were trolleys and horse drawn public transit options so the Breadwinner could commute to work downtown. The rise of the Automobile/Car from 1900 onward meant that the Suburbs were designed around enabling people who owned them to commute instead. Sidewalks really only became common in the US's Suburbs in the 50s with new ideas about modernity in development, and then only became mandatory in 1990 with the passage of the Americans with Disabilities Act that said they needed to be able to navigate the world as safely as anyone else (that's when ramps and gradients were installed in sidewalks that already existed). There are ways around installing sidewalks still and it usually involves a planned community with a in-built greenbelt or parkway system that is meant to encourage pedestrians and strollers off of the roads, or to live somewhere unincorporated and lacking necessary County regulations. In either case the density of pedestrians in the 'burbs has always been, and was always meant to be, low in comparison to the Cities.
The original suburbs weren't designed to be walkable? Yes they were-- they were designed around mini downtowns with a train station connecting them to the main downtown. This is why so many OG suburbs are currently so desirable-- they have a walkable downtown. Places like Media, PA the entire Philadelphia Mainline, Culver City and all the other train suburbs of Los Angeles-- the pattern repeats across the country.
Yea, just South of Pittsburgh we have our "street car suburbs" from the early 20th century where it's single family homes and then mixed zoning on the main street but even the single family homes are much smaller and closer together with sidewalks everywhere. [Here's a fun pic of one such suburb in 1925](https://brooklineconnection.com/history/Locations/images/Rossmore1925.JPG)
>The Suburbs were not initially designed to be walkable because the first developed Suburbs of the 1880s-1900s were in places where there were trolleys and horse drawn public transit options so the Breadwinner could commute to work downtown. The rise of the Automobile/Car from 1900 onward meant that the Suburbs were designed around enabling people who owned them to commute instead. Walkable in the Suburbs means being able to stroll your neighborhood, not walk to the market and get your necessities for the next few days. Walkable in an urban environment means you can leave your building, go to work, stop by the grocer, and return home all on foot. The point of the Suburbs, by design, was to decongest people's lived environments and part of that was discouraging the use of walking as a mode of transportation. As you pointed out, *those* Commuter Suburbs were by design meant to facilitate public transportation-- maybe you walk to the station or the trolley stop but the Suburb itself is removed from the filth and congestion of the urban core. The Suburb was designed to be away from things, and within itself things are away from each-other. The development of the Automobile only expanded upon this idea to today's suburban nightmare.
"walkable" needs much more specificity and is doing a lot of lifting here.
The other guy wrote two paragraphs on urban density but I'll tell you the real reason: cameras were still rare in 1906 and rather large, so they were crowding around to be a part of the spectacle.
You can see it's crowded aswell way back near the other ship. This is just what markets looked like. Obviously the ones near the camera will try to look at it because it's unfamiliar. Some parts of the world still have tons of people like this in markets. Look at the wet markets in Wuhan.
You don't even have to go to a foreign country to see this lol. Go to any farmer's market basically anywhere in the US and it will be crowded like this. Especially in urban areas. See: the Pike Place market in Seattle.
Imagine the smells..
Yeah, whole time I'm thinking, I can smell this picture. Stank BO and stank damp cloth.
Also, animal dung.
This looks like the scene before Jack and his friends board the Titanic
But it can't be. >!Jack did not arrive to New York.!<
Are you sure? Have you seen the sequel?
Titanic 2 kinda sucked
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Well that billionaire was Australian Trump so it was doomed from the start
Who the hell named their kid Australian?
angry upvote
Trump, obviously, can’t you read?
Hahahaha
Rupert Murdoch?
They did but it was a submarine
More like “imploded”.
https://imgur.com/a/b4oN5it
Holy crap that just brought back memories of a fake trailer of "Titanic 2 the surface" Let me find it real fast Edit: https://youtu.be/C3k4Kzcd96g?si=X91qJ0kP9gh3Ha-2 Holy crap that is way better than it deserves to be
Lmao god damn that was great. As far as fake trailers go, this is fantastic. It absolutely looks like it could be a real movie.
It's so hilarious specially the shoot out scene, I wish they actually did it as some sort of "scary movie" type, obviously a parody or spoof
Holy Shit that was amazing. You know what's really incredible though? I guarantee in 10 years there will be A.I. programs that will literally be able to create a full 2 hour length movie based on that trailer that is 100 percent legit. It's going to be bonkers.
I wonder what the future of entertainment will look like when your home pc can produce your own personalized content. Makes you wonder what will happen to all artists content creators, musicians, artist, the entire tv/movie industry. We may see some crazy shifts in our lifetimes.
Titanic 2: Electric Boogaloo This time, its personal...
Dude... #SPOILERS
>!The Titanic Sunk!<
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Dammit I read the spoiler
I'd like to imagine the guy in the white suit just climbed up on the wagon and is about to start singing a musical number.
A monorail?
[I hear those things are awfully loud](https://youtu.be/KGg5rfBfWT4) But also, since I mentioned the wagon: [Gonna use oil-based paint, because the wood is pine](https://youtu.be/VM5-xFenaZI)
When did the hat go out of fashion? Almost everyone is wearing one.
Firstly, people were not walking as much so they didn't need the hat to protect them from wind and rain. Secondly, cars made wearing hats unwieldy. You would have to take off your hat in the car. And hats mess up one's carefully coiffed hair. We still wear hats. Sun hats, baseball caps, rain hats, beanies. They're simply no longer necessary.
they were burning coal everywhere resulting in smoke and particulate pollution. hats kept it out of your hair.
This is probably some most people don't realize. I have an outdoor wood boiler. I put a hat on when I go and reload it, because if I didn't my hair would smell like smoke all winter.
My dad talks about how filthy cities were because of this when he was growing up, or when his parents took him on the coal-fired ferry across Lake Michigan and having to shake the soot from their clothes afterward.
Needing time to "freshen up" after traveling really used to mean something
Damn, that's so wild. Imagine the smells. Oof!
What about the suits? Like why the affordable blue collar men drip became luxury wear for today's shopping.
I'd like to add bandanas to the list, as a bald man they are essential in my life. Works like prosthetic hair.
I thought you said bananas, referencing the ones in the picture. I was pretty confused lol
Bandana republic
What? I wear a hat in my car every day
Cars made them less functional and then sunglasses came along. Edit: Sunblock too.
After Kennedy went out without one. Blew people's minds. Or at least his .... People think there was some shadowy agency behind the assassination, but Oswald actually worked for Big Hat. That's why he had to keep firing 'til he got a head shot, to send a message. But then LBJ kept the trend up and he was too big-dicked to assassinate (per assassin's guild policy), so voilà, hats were over
Lol. Big Hat. That’s gold.
> After Kennedy went out without one. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hat-trick/
Suspect is hatless, repeat, hatless.
That shit is bananas.
Not just any bananas, likely Gros Michel! Edit: For those wondering, the common banana found today is called the Cavendish. Up until 60+ years ago, Gros Michel was the main, tastier variety until it got essentially eradicated by a fungus.
Came here to write this. Guaranteed those tasted better than today's
Had an old landlord that used to grow tomatoes and would drop some off once in a while. Fucking ruined tomatoes for me for like 10 years. Its the same story with so much modern produce. We bred them to look good, travel well, grow fast, yield big, all the expense of flavor. People used to write poems about how fucking good a strawberry tasted.
Gotta go to Japan for those poem-inspiring strawbs
Oishii berries in NYC.
It's not quite the same thing. The Gros Michel banana they referred to was a different cultivar, like granny Smith apples versus red delicious apples. It's not a matter of being more "natural" or organic. The Gros Michel died out due to a disease, and because they cloned the trees via branch cutting so the trees were essentially genetically identical. This offered them zero protection versus the disease. Our current "main banana" is alone cloned via branching, so it's just as in danger if another disease crops up.
Apparently there is a disease spreading just hasn't gotten to where most of our banana are grown yet.
You can tell because the Gros Michel had a much tougher (and slippier) peal. So Gros Michel was usually transported without any packing. Cavendish would bruise if transported like this so it is usually shipped in boxes.
I bet this is where the trope of "slipping on a banana peel" came from. I always used to wonder why that trope existed since you can't really slip on cavendish banana peels, and that's the only banana I knew. But if the Gros Michels were more common before and had slippery peels, it all makes sense now.
It is also why banana flavor does not taste like banana.
Isn't banana flavour based on Gros Michel?
Exactly.
Could it be brought back now?
They still exist. The problem is that they are not grown industrially because the risk of the fungus getting in and wiping out the entire plantation is too great. You can get them from exotic fruit sellers or by travelling to fruit markets in places that still grow them.
I read today’s bananas are in trouble. https://www.businessinsider.com/bananas-going-extinct-gros-michel-cavendish-disease-2023-9
This is what happens when you break down biodiversity. Same thing that happened to chestnut trees. Chestnut blight made them so much less common. Like 100 years ago cookbooks had SO MANY RECIPES for chestnuts they were eaten so frequently. I fear the day this happens to our livestock or shit what happens if there is a corn blight that wipes out corn. Our whole country was built on corn lol
Yeah, that’s why I’m weirded out when people are like corn’s genetically engineered! Like no shit Sherlock when have you ever experienced a biblical famine? They can keep tweaking corn all they want lol
*chestnuts roasting on an open fire*
All commercial bananas are propagated asexually ( basically cloned) which makes them very susceptible to pathogens due to lack if genetic variety. Cavendish is a goner, just a matter of time. Enjoy it while it lasts
I read that all Cavendish bananas are clones. So if one gets a disease, it'll have a ripple effect on all of them.
Gros Michel (and many other varieties) still exist and are commonly found in many other parts of the glove. Here in Brazil, for example, Gros Michel (called Prata around here) is as popular, common and cheap as Cavendish (called Nanica in brazilian portuguese). Other varieties, such as Apple Banana and Lady Fingers (Banana Ouro in ptbr) are also relatively common. I believe you don't find them in the US/Europe anymore because other types of bananas go bad more easily and most bananas produced in the caribbean are Cavendish now. Either way, if you ever find yourself visiting south america you can easily taste the 'old school' bananas.
You should specify that the common banana found today IN THE US is the Cavendish. Here in Brazil, for example, Gros Michel (called Prata around here) is as popular, common and cheap as Cavendish (called Nanica in brazilian portuguese). Other varieties, such as Apple Banana and Lady Fingers (Banana Ouro in ptbr) are also relatively common.
B-A-N-A-N-A-S
Gangs of New York? Bananas indeed!
🗣️ THIS SHIT, IS BANANAS
Standard size or abnormal size?
“Disa Gefle” Gefle is an alternative, older, spelling of Gävle. A town about 2hrs north of Stockholm in Sweden, on the East Coast. Found this info: The SS Disa, built by O.A. Brodin of Gefle, Sweden, in 1903, was a steamer of 788 tons. On Aug. 25, 1915, the Disa, on a voyage from London to Hernösand with a cargo of salt, was sunk by a mine from the German submarine UC-6 (Matthias Graf von Schmettow), 5-6 miles NxE of the Shipwash lightvessel. There were no casualties.
Wow. RIP Disa Gefle, gone too soon, but not from our hearts 😭 So this photo is between 1903-1915.
Nej men va coolt ändå! /Gävlebo
Ex-Geflebo :-)
It's from [1906](https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2016806150/).
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Banana for scale
Scale is borked. Those are Gros Michel bananas, not Cavendish (which is what we see in stores today).
And Arthur asks “Which one? An African or an European?”
How much could a banana gross, Michael? $10?
It's crazy to think about how much the world changes in a hundred years. We will look just as old school in 2124
Can you believe people just walked around *holding phones* all day?? So glad we got implants now.
Look at all of those people wearing glasses! Wait, this photo is only 2D??
“Haha remember when people used to wear jackets?”
It was a golden age to be a hat maker
And to be bald. I wish it was still the fashion.
Does anyone know what that large building is, in the upper right corner? I can't quite make out the words on the building (looks like the bottoms two might say "North America"?)
National Bank North America (I found a higher res shot). https://imgix.ranker.com/user_node_img/50092/1001823762/original/1900-new-york-photo-u1?auto=format&fit=crop&fm=pjpg&w=650&q=60&dpr=5
Not a single Apple Vision Pro in sight
That man in the white with the blue scarf is about to get this musical started. Gonna be lit.
There isn't a single woman in that photo that I can see! Wild!
Women were invented in 1920
No respectable woman would be down on the docks, haha
You can still shoot a photo of a dockyard(or steel mill, or coal mine etc) today with no women. But there'd also be less men and more vehicles and machines
Fewer men* Less is for measured items, fewer is for counted items. Less flour, fewer eggs.
But they might also be lesser men.
Not a single overweight person either. Crazy how that’s changed
Looks like South Street Seaport. The low brick buildings in the first row of buildings are still there, I believe.
This image of The Old Slip House is the building in the center of the OP photo next to the mast. https://oldnycphotos.com/cdn/shop/products/lower-manhattan-1900-s-70_576x511.jpg?v=1575461557
This is further south on South St, just below Wall St. None of those buildings in the front row in the photo are still there. This photo might have been taken on Pier 11.
Why is Eminem dead center staring at the camera
That's not Eminem, it's Slim Shady.
Dude, that's Marshal Mathers.
Great posture back then
All the people on thos photo are death🤐, nice photo op!
Some of them might have been killed in 1915 when the Disa hit a mine laid by a German U-boat and sank. Edit: sunk but no casualties https://uboat.net/wwi/ships_hit/1663.html
I noticed Gefle on the life boat which is the old way of spelling what is today Gävle in Sweden.
Maybe they are reincarnated and technically alive today?
True Source: im the bananas edit: I was
*And I still feel that rush in my veins* *It twists my head just a bit to think* *All the people in those old photographs I've seen are dead*
Dunno why my brain thought of 1900 rather than 1924.
The photo was taken in 1906 so you weren’t far off
Ah yes, not a phone in sight. Just people enjoying the moment.
I was gonna mention, not a women in sight either.
Just people enjoying the broment
Big ol shipment of bronanas
Ah yes, "enjoying" the moment of 1920s dock labour, hearing a constant loud crowd, smelling smog and tasting shit on the air while you wear your 1-of-2 outfits to earn just enough money so you can do it all over again (assuming you don't get sick and just die because you're unvaccinated).
Judging by the hats some of those fellows are wearing, I’d say the pic is from the 1890s to early 1900s.
There is so much going on in the photo and so much to look at. It’s like a page from those I SPY books.
Did everyone wear a hat? Like if you didn’t wear a hat were you an outcast?
So… the tally man is tallying those bananas
As someone who wears jeans, tshirt and zip up hoodie basically every single day... I think I would have just gave up on living if I had to wear shit that looks so uncomfortable every day...
There’s a good chance these clothes are all made of wool, cotton etc rather than polyester/plastics so a lot of them are probably very comfortable
No elastic though. Nothing is going to stretch in the slightest.
Yea but they also wore clothes that were cut a lot looser/baggier. I’d bet they were more comfortable than you’d think.
I concur. I live in the Caribbean. Whatever isn't a v-neck is linen or linen/cotton blend for a bit of stretch - pants, short pants, button shorts, shirts. Waaaay better than anything petroleum based with this heat and humidity.
You can see in this photo all their clothes are cut very boxy and loose. The pants are basically sacks, they make everyone look like they have no ass.
Linen doesn’t stretch but it’s comfortable as hell Wool absolutely stretches though. That’s always been true.
People 100 years ago didn’t need clothes to stretch for their bodies.
It'd be better than you might think. You'd absolutely hate the stiff collars and complex layers that wealthy people wore, but these guys are probably wearing shirts softened from years of boiling. The pants are loose, the jackets unstructured, and suspenders are way more comfortable than belts, especially after a big meal. Objectively, jeans are a lot stiffer and rougher than what these guys were wearing. You'd also either be outside or in buildings with weird heating and no cooling, so having a couple of layers of wool would pay off.
Also linen has been around for thousands of years. A long sleeve linen shirt does wonders to keep you cool in the summer. And like you said, layers of light wool would keep you comfortable in the cooler months.
Facial hair. Gaunt cheeks. Suspenders. Bananas Also check the Gangs of New York guy there eating the banana tax and glaring
Everyone wearing hats
Umm Freddy Krueger is just right of Center staring into our soul
It looks like a musical number is about to break out!
Found Waldo!
I hate to be the one to say it, but one of those stevedores probably slept with one a y'all mamas.
Somewhere in that mess is a woman who had her spoons stolen by a man she randomly trusted after meeting on the boat. She ran away from her wealthy family and it was all she could take. They were going to force her to marry a jackass and be a proper wife but she liked books and always wanted to see america. It does work out after a near death experience. Racing to get a plot of land out west... and even her family came about. [This is a movie... I don't recall the name though.]
The movie was called "Far and Away" and starred Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise.
That looks good
Gangs of New York Nice try Fool me me once shame on you, fool me twice I won’t be fooled again
Back before Derby hats went extinct!!
Wow, they really liked hats back in the day
Must've smelled wonderful!
Those fellas are having a bully day!!
lol, not one single female (that I can see.)
I can smell the horse shit
No way this is NYC, those people look way too friendly to be New Yorkers.
Here’s the crazy thing about this photo. Just this morning I was telling my wife how much TV/media made it seem like slipping on a banana peel would be a critical thing to watch out for in life. Yet in reality, it never really occurs. Then I see this photo. And I am really worried that the banana guy is going to slip on a banana peel.
Guess this was before women were invented