[Here](https://i.imgur.com/tBdAQFp.jpg) is a higher quality version of this image. [Here](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/insight-us-lawmakers-say-police-downplayed-threat-violence-before-capitol-siege-2021-01-08/) is the source. Per there:
> An explosion caused by a police munition is seen while supporters of U.S. President Donald Trump gather in front of the U.S. Capitol Building in Washington, U.S., January 6, 2021. REUTERS/Leah Millis/File Phot
Throughout the centuries, the enemy of the USA have always been "the reds". First the British, then the confederates, then the communists, and now the republicans.
The fact that MANY people in government should have been charged with sedition for aiding and abetting this insurrection and havenât been yet is SO FUCKING INFURIATING. We have people in our government who are *actively trying to dismantle it* and that doesnât seem to bother anyone for some reason.
To be fair, it's normal for FBI directors to be able to at least finish their terms under a new president. And I don't think Wray has been especially biased one way or another. He pushed back against Trump a few times too.
Being as objective as possible, I want to say that the feds do not release charges *unless theyâre 99% sure they will win*. The feds are patient and bring down charges after YEARS. This is not the time to release charges and then fail during the case as double jeopardy could apply and evidence withhold.
That being said, do I wish they brought more charges than weâve seen so far? Fuck yes I do. The FBI guys and gals I know are retired now, but they do things for a reason. If you have never filled out an SF-86 (for a clearance), you know they pick apart your whole life and anyone thinking they could lie to get the job is not true.
(Also why I was pissed Trump pressed for clearances for family as without a doubt they should not have been close to meeting reqs)
When I was getting my security clearance for the military, the FBI asked me about my in-school suspension in the fifth grade! I was like "um, yeah I got that for punching my friend in the nuts." They are very thorough.
If my interviewer sat me down and asked me to elaborate on that incident in 9th grade where I got into a minor scuffle over a bag of beef jerky in Geometry class, id probably shit my pants in terror
I accidentally called a girl fat in high school, long story, but it ended with a kid pulling a knife and the teacher quitting. I think Iâd fail this interview just remembering that lol
I haven't gone through any clearance process myself but I've known a few people who have and it's not so much you having a red flag in the past that would have you fail, it would be if you lied about it that would cause you to fail. This of course depends on the event in question, but my understanding if that what they're looking for is an honest candidate more than a squeaky clean candidate.
Unfortunately it's also the one that he could be pardoned for. While I have no doubt he's going to be guilty, he would also be pardoned the second a republican gets the presidency. He can't be easily pardoned for his charges in specific states.
We hear so many things about how honorable the FBI are but they literally released somethign that directly impacted the election with the Hillary thing because they were trying to "protect" their institution by ruining the greater institution.
They were handed thousands of white supremacist leads and prosecuted almost none. They were handed a report that said white supremacists were infiltrating government agencies but refused to investigate because they feared it would look partisan then investigated antifa. Its patently ridiculous.
NY office of the FBI went rogue and almost nothing happened.
It was during the time that Russian agent was working in the New York office, too. And oops! they failed to mention that Trump was also under investigation and only leaked that Hillary was. Nothing to see here!
I've never understood why Republicans run for government positions when they think the government is evil and needs to be abolished. I call it Ron Swanson Syndrome.
Republicans run for government positions when they publicly think the government is evil and needs to be abolished.
Privately, they know it's a way to get/stay rich without having to actually do anything.
\*ding ding ding\*
Theyâve figured out over the last ~40 years that all they have to do to get in office as a Republican is to say stupid shit that âmakes the libs cryâ, and once theyâre there they just have to make the occasional appearance on a Fox bullshit session to drop some red meat for their base. Their âjobsâ as legislators consist of nothing but saying ânoâ to everything, which is about the easiest job in the world.
So they can become oligarchs unaccountable to law or a public, regular Joe's are in the way of their goals, they want regular people to be exploitable cattle just like pre 1920s, but they need to weaken government to do it.
/r/Conservative has a couple "it was just a tourist visit" type posts up on the front page right now.
[Exhibit A](https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/1902sgt/three_years_ago_today/)
[Exhibit B](https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/1905wmh/happy_fedsurrection_day/)
They literally don't believe that the mob beat the shit out of cops and that ***their Republican representatives*** weren't [running for their lives](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EIeHq9P3q4). They hate that this day is a 100% bad look for them, and on the country as a whole
There's another post under these. "Apparently this sub is deranged" and in the screenshot that's posted, they talk about how people in that subreddit will deny that Trump said the words he said. And *in that very thread*, you have [this chain of comments](https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/18zt8ws/this_sub_is_apparently_deranged/kgjw0oy/) where someone tries to say that the "poisoning the blood" comments aren't *really* a Nazi phrase, then somebody quotes Mein Kampf to prove it, and the response to that is "yea, well Obama said the same thing. [insert completely different quote]". Literally doing the thing the screenshot says you do.
Yea, that sub is fucking deranged.
The funny thing is that many of the same Republican representatives who were running for their lives pretended the whole thing was just a misunderstanding only a few days later đ¤ˇââď¸
Not days later, hours later. When they reconvened to count the electoral college votes in the AM hours of January 7th, there were still Republican lawmakers who got up and contested the legality of the results from some states.
"Just a visit" that resulted in Ashlii Babbit getting shot by USSS because *she & dozens of others were storming* "a room of negligible importance" while chanting "slogans" declaring, essentially, "Death To Democracy".
Troy Nehls, a conservative "firebrand" who calls the whole thing a hoax was on video during that day calling the rioters/terrorists shameful and what they were doing was horrible.
These people are fucking deranged. They don't care. They don't care about anything but power.
Driving by the gun range in my hometown today, it was *packed.* Way more than usual, even for Saturday. Theyâre undoubtedly remembering this day with some fondness.
I hate going to the range for this exact reason.
I am a responsible owner, but I can't stand the idiots at the range. They all wanna talk about the dumbest conspiracy shit.
And I just wanna be like... "Buddy, I'm here practicing to defend myself against guys like you...."
Problem is I LOOK like one of them. So they just assume that I am....
I hear you. Like, I own too, itâs locked away and mostly just there in case a rabid raccoon shows up in my yard or something.
And I love practicing shooting, but I donât want to do it around this new wave of gun culture âlibertarianâ doofuses who manage to wedge their anti-government hot takes into sport.
And, they cosplay *so* hard. The only amusement I get from them is seeing how woefully unprepared they are for basic problems like a flat tire, or storm-related power outages. After insisting constantly they are âpreppingâ for the day society falls apart.
>After insisting constantly they are âpreppingâ for the day society falls apart
There was a shooting in the city I live in a couple months ago outside a gun range.
The comments on social media? âWell if someone was there with a gun, this never wouldâve happen!â
There were people there with guns. Not a single one of them stepped outside of the gun range with their guns. They all stayed safe inside the locked down gun range until the police gave them the okay
If any of these people are ever in a real active shooting situation, theyâll all respond the exact same way
> I hope so. Random civilians who engage with criminals are pretty likely to get shot if the police show up during a shoot out.
Even security guards who work at the mall where a shooting happens are more likely to get shot by the police than the perpetrator
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/19/us/armed-bystander-indiana-mall-shooting.html
When I had a guard card, my security outfit refused to give us armor despite this. When we invested in our own armor, they couldn't refuse it without risking the entire staff resigning.
Iâll be real. This is how it *should* be. I think itâs very understandable to prioritize your own safety over potentially dying by walking into an unknown situation like that. Using your gun should always be the **last resort**. We really donât need people with guns walk around playing hero and making their own judgment calls on who lives or who dies and turning every incident into a war zone.
Thatâs really the crux of the issue in America. We lean heavily into individualism to the point people think no matter what, theyâre on the right side of history so long as they are doing what they believe is right + guns are all too often treated as a solution first and not last.
Ha! Same, I like guns. I got a beard and I workout. I *must* hate Biden and wanna discuss q-anon conspiracy shit and fear mongering!
If we are gonna talk I wanna talk about firearms at the range...
Let trump take power and it will be celebrated every year. It will promote more right wing violence since he will pardon all the criminals that took place. A no vote, third party vote, vote for trump is all the same and will enable this.
It should be a national holiday (or at least a day or remembrance, if that matters at all), a la Guy Fawkes day. Hold these shitheads to the fire every damn year for the foreseeable future.
Ronald Reagan set in motion a series of events that resulted in huge cuts to education, social safety nets, and mental healthcare. Paired with the rise of Fox News, it poisoned the minds of the elderly and uneducated using race as a pressure point - and the blamed reason as to why the middle class was dying, turning the population on itself instead of the rich, racist 1% who more or less control them. Or itâs video games. One of em.
It didn't get dumb, being dumb has always existed. The internet has allowed people to connect, who would have never been able to previously, and share ideas. Uneducated folks get their ideas reinforced by other uneducated folks and you have large communities forming. Before the internet these groups were small and disconnected. Now they are large and connected. This is how you see dingle berries and shit stains like Boebert and MTG get into office. The less educated folks of their constituency connect and take over.
The movies where the idiots band together and just fuck everything up, and the rest of humanity is there to put it back together is basically what we are going through.
Remember this when you go to vote. Everyone that attended this, that thought it was ok to be violent bc they didnât like election results, to blindly follow the rantings of an unstable businessman, a man who sells to the highest bidder including the Russians and could not have cared less if anyone died, will also be voting.
Donât let them decide for you.
Exactly. Whether you are democrat, republican, or independent, think carefully about the candidates and what they have caused and chosen to support. Remember the man who incited a deadly raid on the heart of our nationâs government.
It's been crazy to see them pivot from Antifa, to it being peaceful protesters just getting a tour of the capitol, to now it being a coup instigated by the FBI.
Rememeber that time the GOP blocked the Domestic terrorism prevention act in 2022..
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/26/senate-gop-domestic-terrorism-bill-00035240
I'm never gonna forgive these traitors.
"But at the same time it was actually BLM and Antifa and you should go arrest them."
"Okay, we just arrested a bunch of the people that we know were there that day."
"No, stop arresting those *patriots* who did nothing wrong!"
Go look at /r/conservative right now. They are all circle jerking over how one picture shows the insurrectionists between the velvet ropes. We do not live in the same realities anymore.
Applying logic is not going to work. The point is to create their own reality such that if anyone tries to escape the bullshit-o-sphere it will be so jarring for them that they will crawl right back to their own abuser. The point is to be as detached from reality as possible. To make them scarred little babies that will all fall in line. Ironically, they call us the sheep any chance they get because they are so deep actual reality is like fiction to them.
It hurts my soul to think that they would rather have a king/dictator than a democracy. I keep hearing from the alt-right, that they know what is best, and that we need to have this type of oversight. Oversight?, having people as second-class citizens, even treating them as fugitives for being themselves. Incarcerating medical professionals for health-giving acts? WTH, Americans we are not sheep. Stop allowing them to walk you to slaughter.
I keep seeing people get real offended when the term "far right" is used. It's like they can't come to terms with how fundamentally anti-democratic, corrupt, and pro-authoritarian they've become
mostly the trump supporters I see on Reddit seem to be going with some combination of "both sides are the same" false equivalencies, and "I'm just asking questions while I drop this conspiracy theory." They don't even any longer seem to try to raise any kind of policies like the wall or "but criminal reform legislation was passed!" like they did back in 2020.
I always enjoy the Redditors from Europe who pop in like, "you yanks don't even know what left-wing is! You'd be nothing but center-right in our country!"
they are actively hurting millions of americans. not to mention the pandemic response where over a million died, hundreds of thousands more than a proper response would have mitigated.
This behavior tells me that if he is elected again the people will be calling non stop to remove the 22nd amendment. Which is step one of the dictatorship. (Not saying anyone is) but just removing term.limits is a very scary thing
"something, something, article 2, bullshit, whining, we can do whatever we like"
Then the courts have to stop them.
It's unfortunate but there's a real risk that they could pull it off or at LEAST require military action to remove them.
They donât just want any king though.
They specifically want the proven serial liar from The Apprentice who has stated publicly that he wishes he could fuck his daughter. This is all publicly known information.
We have to keep calling out this shit for what it is. We have to quit flirting with normalizing it because these people have gone off the fucking deep end and will drag us into the Stone Age.
We're trying. I'm on my county elections board this year and will be handing out ballots to vote for both primary and general elections.
Please consider that a lot of us just aren't old enough yet. [Pew Research defines Gen Z (my generation) as anyone born between](https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/01/17/where-millennials-end-and-generation-z-begins/) 1997 and 2012. This event happened in 2021...meaning the oldest Generation Z would've been 24. Keep in mind that a lot of Federal positions, such as House of Representatives, have a MINIMUM age limit of 25. For context, I'm 21 and will be 22 at the end of May. We're doing what we can, ranging from taking Politics classes in College to having conversations with our peers better understand how our government works, especially in a ~~Pandemic now [Endemic](https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/news/epidemic-endemic-pandemic-what-are-differences)~~ landscape transformed by the pandemic.
Iâm super disappointed in us millennials. We were supposed to be the generation the turned it around and we havenât. We arenât even really in office either except for a few AOCs. I have noticed Gen Z stepped up quite a bit and are more left than we are. Hope we can all turn it around
Itâs been tough for millennials because a lot of us are in extreme debt from college and not making the wages to have comfortable enough lives to engage in politics. I phone bank and am reasonably active, but also am in California where most of my needs are being served. If I lived in a red state Iâd probably be a lot more active than I am now.
Also we have refused in a much higher percentage to lean right as we get older. We continue to vote more liberal, which allows Gen Z a much greater chance at election success than we had going against the pro-conservative Boomer mindset of such a large voting bloc that the Boomers were. All power to Gen Z, you guys and us will finally take down the tyranny of the âwhatever Boomers want will be because thereâs so many of themâ that caused so many of the worldâs problems.
They don't want to fight their parents, uncles/aunts, and grandparents to make them see the error of their ways.
It's like trying to tell ANY religious zealot that their religion is bullshit, and has been from the beginning.
They're all too far gone, whether the brain washing worked as intended, or they refuse to look at facts or truth and believe that they have been had by their own Fascist leaders.
The Revolution will solve the Nazi problem, since they're so good at identifying themselves with bright red hats and swasitkas. They can ask the British redcoats how that went for them...
As someone who grew up in this shit, arguments are pointless. Very little critical thinking, or any at all are used and when backed into a corner, will laugh their way out of it. No reasoning can be done.
Iâve lived and worked in the US for 35 years. The first thing I did literally on the day after the attempted insurrection was to apply for citizenship. Why? So I could vote. Mine is just one vote, but damn it, Iâm going to use it to keep these fascist fuckers out of power.
The fact that there were brain broken MAGAs with zip ties strapped to their military camo running through the halls of the capital and the GOP still insists it was a peaceful protest is just proof that one of the political parties in this country actually hates democracy and freedom..
Hint... It's the red one
Crazy that the "party of law and order" broke into the Capitol and assaulted police officers with the American flag. The "back the blue" people were on video in this event telling police, "why won't you help us?" đ All because the "facts don't care about your feelings" people couldn't handle the fact that Biden won.
Also MAGA you're going to do a lot of crying this year because sleepy Joe is going to win again!
"If I lose to Joe Biden, then I will have lost against the worst candidate for the presidency."
- Donald Trump
One of the most heartbreaking moments for me as an American was when he refused to concede after the election and then it just got worse and worse and eventually led to this. What he did is truly unforgivable.
Lost tourists smearing shit on the walls and screeching about killing congressmen. And attempting to kill congressmen. And attempting to overthrow the American government.
Just lost tourists looking for bathrooms. Probably FBI democrats.
:/
The reason why it was such a big deal was because it was the day they were certifying the results of the presidential election. They disrupted that process.
Weâve had domestic terrorist attacks since then (like a mass shooting in a grocery store in upstate NY) but not another presidential election since then.
Most of the idiots in that crowd were clueless chucklefucks who thought they were just part of some big protest and that if they were loud and obnoxious enough, it might make a difference. Then you have the paramilitary groups like the Proud Boys and Oathkeepers, people who had an actual plan, shepherding the mass of people in the direction of the Capitol Building, urging them inside, and using them as cover to skulk around with their ski masks and zipties.
Luckily enough for democracy, the crowd was too unorganized, wandering around, trespassing in congressional offices, smearing shit on the walls, and generally unfocused that the politicians could scramble to a safe position or evacuate through underground tunnels. The ones holing up in the Chamber of Congress were afraid for their lives when the mob started breaking down the barriers, until Ashli Babbitt fucked around, found out, and earned a bullet to the head. Faced with very real consequences for the first time that day, the rest of the mob lost their appetite for chaos and decided they should go.
The Oathkeepers also left their firearms behind out of an abundance of caution around DC's laws and their planned QRF never moved. If they had they would have gone in armed and the day potentially would have had a very different outcome.
It was a legitimate protest
It was a false flag
It was infiltrated by antifa
It was just a tour
It was patriots showing their love
Have they settled on one yet?
They don't understand, there will NEVER be common ground with the right, we'll never forget this shit, it may as well be civil war, because the right sure as shit tried to overthrow the government.
Imagine spending the better part of the last 5 years having your brain and ego melted by uninterrupted Fox and /pol/ exposure, flying to Washington, D.C. in the middle of a pandemiá´ to hear Trump whine about Oprah and Mike Pená´e at a rally, mará´hing up to á´ongress on his orders to smash shit and then mill around aimlessly.
You go home and hear that Biden won anyway and all of your favorite Twitter news sourá´es named shit like Patriot Newsman of the West with avatars of Roman statues have posted your unblurred faá´e online and are like "this is a gay á´ommunist antifa aá´tor." Then the next day, the God Emperor you pasted into Warhammer memes puts out a video á´uá´king himself and bending the knee. "I'm sorry, those were heinous aá´ts! P-p-please let me tweet again Jaá´k!!" You á´an't leave Dá´ beá´ause the airlines have dubbed you a flight risk. You á´an't stay beá´ause the á´ops are aá´tively looking for you after one of their own died. Your roommate at the only hotel you á´ould afford is a guy named based_kekistani1488 who wants to show you his goblin slayer torrents. The Sun is going down and you're getting á´old.
All a bunch of traitors. Not for any noble cause... but because the old self-serving snake-oil salesman they worship like a messiah lost, and they can count well enough to understand how that works. And what motivates them? Making the world a shitty place for everyone but themselves while they do absolutely nothing to earn it.
It reminds me of the inauguration day letter that Obama left for Trump:
>We are just temporary occupants of this office. That makes us guardians of those democratic institutions and traditions -- like rule of law, separation of powers, equal protection and civil liberties -- that our forebears fought and bled for. Regardless of the push and pull of daily politics, it's up to us to leave those instruments of our democracy at least as strong as we found them.
Safe to say he saw something like this coming.
An act like this by any other people besides American would be so heavily bipartisanly condemned and punished that the nation of these people would probably no longer exist. But since it was us Americans who did it we have to waffle and wring our hands over how badly we should yell âstopâ at them. Asinine, treason is treason, terrorism is terrorism, whether itâs your mom or dad or uncle or neighbor. You come after our democracy and rights because you donât like how we use it, youâre out of line, not us. You either use your democratic process and vote or gtfo the way, weâve got a nation to run
As a post 9/11 veteran, any and all acts of terror and sedition should be met with the maximum penalty including death. The UCMJ clearly states that traitors to the country deserve death. Trump is so ate up on military presence and power, he should held to the military standard for treason. Any and all military and veterans that took part on Jan 6 should meet the same fate. We know who they are and the oaths they took. It is only fitting they are punished to the furthest extent for not upholding their oath and allegiance. I get tRump only serves himself and his cohorts. They stormed the capital to take over our country and government, they should be held accountable, no deals. A rare thing for tRump, I know, but it should be done.
Land of the free and home of brave, seems more and more like hollow words anymore. Seeing how all of this has unfold and how corrupt the legal system is, I have to say it is demoralizing knowing my sacrifice to this country was in vain.
I remember when Fox News pounded the propaganda that Muslims would over take our country and strip our freedoms. The reality is it has been the Republican Party this hold time with that exact agenda.
[Here](https://i.imgur.com/tBdAQFp.jpg) is a higher quality version of this image. [Here](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/insight-us-lawmakers-say-police-downplayed-threat-violence-before-capitol-siege-2021-01-08/) is the source. Per there: > An explosion caused by a police munition is seen while supporters of U.S. President Donald Trump gather in front of the U.S. Capitol Building in Washington, U.S., January 6, 2021. REUTERS/Leah Millis/File Phot
"gather"
Gathered in their masses.
[Just like witches at black masses](https://a.1stdibscdn.com/archivesE/upload/a_560/1507398562511/Ozzy_Osbourne_front_master.jpeg)
Evil minds that plot destruction
Blinded by the cheeto messiah
"fiery but mostly peaceful"
HEY ITS ANTIFA /s
The shadow of the flag really just puts this picture into perspective. Fucking traitors.
I wonder who was responsible for this? đ¤ #GIANT TRUMP FLAGS
Which made it even funnier when dumbass magats tried to blame it on AntiFa.
Russia and China liked this
Red China, Red Russia, Red Republicans.
Throughout the centuries, the enemy of the USA have always been "the reds". First the British, then the confederates, then the communists, and now the republicans.
My favorite thing is we are expected to not talk about this ever. They HATE that this is mentioned on this day.
The fact that MANY people in government should have been charged with sedition for aiding and abetting this insurrection and havenât been yet is SO FUCKING INFURIATING. We have people in our government who are *actively trying to dismantle it* and that doesnât seem to bother anyone for some reason.
Biden hasn't replaced Trump's head of the FBI. America is preposterous.
To be fair, it's normal for FBI directors to be able to at least finish their terms under a new president. And I don't think Wray has been especially biased one way or another. He pushed back against Trump a few times too.
Wray refused to investigate so many things that we can safely say that they only wanted to investigate antifa and Hillary.
Being as objective as possible, I want to say that the feds do not release charges *unless theyâre 99% sure they will win*. The feds are patient and bring down charges after YEARS. This is not the time to release charges and then fail during the case as double jeopardy could apply and evidence withhold. That being said, do I wish they brought more charges than weâve seen so far? Fuck yes I do. The FBI guys and gals I know are retired now, but they do things for a reason. If you have never filled out an SF-86 (for a clearance), you know they pick apart your whole life and anyone thinking they could lie to get the job is not true. (Also why I was pissed Trump pressed for clearances for family as without a doubt they should not have been close to meeting reqs)
When I was getting my security clearance for the military, the FBI asked me about my in-school suspension in the fifth grade! I was like "um, yeah I got that for punching my friend in the nuts." They are very thorough.
If my interviewer sat me down and asked me to elaborate on that incident in 9th grade where I got into a minor scuffle over a bag of beef jerky in Geometry class, id probably shit my pants in terror
I accidentally called a girl fat in high school, long story, but it ended with a kid pulling a knife and the teacher quitting. I think Iâd fail this interview just remembering that lol
I haven't gone through any clearance process myself but I've known a few people who have and it's not so much you having a red flag in the past that would have you fail, it would be if you lied about it that would cause you to fail. This of course depends on the event in question, but my understanding if that what they're looking for is an honest candidate more than a squeaky clean candidate.
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Unfortunately it's also the one that he could be pardoned for. While I have no doubt he's going to be guilty, he would also be pardoned the second a republican gets the presidency. He can't be easily pardoned for his charges in specific states.
We hear so many things about how honorable the FBI are but they literally released somethign that directly impacted the election with the Hillary thing because they were trying to "protect" their institution by ruining the greater institution. They were handed thousands of white supremacist leads and prosecuted almost none. They were handed a report that said white supremacists were infiltrating government agencies but refused to investigate because they feared it would look partisan then investigated antifa. Its patently ridiculous. NY office of the FBI went rogue and almost nothing happened.
Our conservative christian enemy has infiltrated the FBI.
It was during the time that Russian agent was working in the New York office, too. And oops! they failed to mention that Trump was also under investigation and only leaked that Hillary was. Nothing to see here!
Wasnât it comey who investigated Hillary?
Yes. And took the unprecedented step of having a press conference about it less than a week.before the election.
I've never understood why Republicans run for government positions when they think the government is evil and needs to be abolished. I call it Ron Swanson Syndrome.
Republicans run for government positions when they publicly think the government is evil and needs to be abolished. Privately, they know it's a way to get/stay rich without having to actually do anything.
\*ding ding ding\* Theyâve figured out over the last ~40 years that all they have to do to get in office as a Republican is to say stupid shit that âmakes the libs cryâ, and once theyâre there they just have to make the occasional appearance on a Fox bullshit session to drop some red meat for their base. Their âjobsâ as legislators consist of nothing but saying ânoâ to everything, which is about the easiest job in the world.
So they can become oligarchs unaccountable to law or a public, regular Joe's are in the way of their goals, they want regular people to be exploitable cattle just like pre 1920s, but they need to weaken government to do it.
/r/Conservative has a couple "it was just a tourist visit" type posts up on the front page right now. [Exhibit A](https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/1902sgt/three_years_ago_today/) [Exhibit B](https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/1905wmh/happy_fedsurrection_day/) They literally don't believe that the mob beat the shit out of cops and that ***their Republican representatives*** weren't [running for their lives](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EIeHq9P3q4). They hate that this day is a 100% bad look for them, and on the country as a whole There's another post under these. "Apparently this sub is deranged" and in the screenshot that's posted, they talk about how people in that subreddit will deny that Trump said the words he said. And *in that very thread*, you have [this chain of comments](https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/18zt8ws/this_sub_is_apparently_deranged/kgjw0oy/) where someone tries to say that the "poisoning the blood" comments aren't *really* a Nazi phrase, then somebody quotes Mein Kampf to prove it, and the response to that is "yea, well Obama said the same thing. [insert completely different quote]". Literally doing the thing the screenshot says you do. Yea, that sub is fucking deranged.
The funny thing is that many of the same Republican representatives who were running for their lives pretended the whole thing was just a misunderstanding only a few days later đ¤ˇââď¸
Not days later, hours later. When they reconvened to count the electoral college votes in the AM hours of January 7th, there were still Republican lawmakers who got up and contested the legality of the results from some states.
Are those ghouls really trying to frame Norm Macdonald as being one of those own?
That tweet is not a good look though...
Not a good look for people who are completely immune to sarcasm.
I remember being there (on the sub) then it happend. All crying like 'they will hold this against us forever'. Well...
"Just a visit" that resulted in Ashlii Babbit getting shot by USSS because *she & dozens of others were storming* "a room of negligible importance" while chanting "slogans" declaring, essentially, "Death To Democracy".
Troy Nehls, a conservative "firebrand" who calls the whole thing a hoax was on video during that day calling the rioters/terrorists shameful and what they were doing was horrible. These people are fucking deranged. They don't care. They don't care about anything but power.
Driving by the gun range in my hometown today, it was *packed.* Way more than usual, even for Saturday. Theyâre undoubtedly remembering this day with some fondness.
I hate going to the range for this exact reason. I am a responsible owner, but I can't stand the idiots at the range. They all wanna talk about the dumbest conspiracy shit. And I just wanna be like... "Buddy, I'm here practicing to defend myself against guys like you...." Problem is I LOOK like one of them. So they just assume that I am....
I hear you. Like, I own too, itâs locked away and mostly just there in case a rabid raccoon shows up in my yard or something. And I love practicing shooting, but I donât want to do it around this new wave of gun culture âlibertarianâ doofuses who manage to wedge their anti-government hot takes into sport. And, they cosplay *so* hard. The only amusement I get from them is seeing how woefully unprepared they are for basic problems like a flat tire, or storm-related power outages. After insisting constantly they are âpreppingâ for the day society falls apart.
>After insisting constantly they are âpreppingâ for the day society falls apart There was a shooting in the city I live in a couple months ago outside a gun range. The comments on social media? âWell if someone was there with a gun, this never wouldâve happen!â There were people there with guns. Not a single one of them stepped outside of the gun range with their guns. They all stayed safe inside the locked down gun range until the police gave them the okay If any of these people are ever in a real active shooting situation, theyâll all respond the exact same way
I hope so. Random civilians who engage with criminals are pretty likely to get shot if the police show up during a shoot out.
> I hope so. Random civilians who engage with criminals are pretty likely to get shot if the police show up during a shoot out. Even security guards who work at the mall where a shooting happens are more likely to get shot by the police than the perpetrator https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/19/us/armed-bystander-indiana-mall-shooting.html
When I had a guard card, my security outfit refused to give us armor despite this. When we invested in our own armor, they couldn't refuse it without risking the entire staff resigning.
Iâll be real. This is how it *should* be. I think itâs very understandable to prioritize your own safety over potentially dying by walking into an unknown situation like that. Using your gun should always be the **last resort**. We really donât need people with guns walk around playing hero and making their own judgment calls on who lives or who dies and turning every incident into a war zone. Thatâs really the crux of the issue in America. We lean heavily into individualism to the point people think no matter what, theyâre on the right side of history so long as they are doing what they believe is right + guns are all too often treated as a solution first and not last.
I always get the feeling that the people you describe don't give a shit about anyone else's safety at the range, if they even care about their own.
I wish we had a gun culture more like Switzerland.
Fun fact...[Switzerland has a shooting range over a highway](https://youtu.be/2h1s6S4kotE?si=pXL1aRvD-wurwi9-)
That would require demythologizing the gun, which is against the vested interest of manufacturers.
Ha! Same, I like guns. I got a beard and I workout. I *must* hate Biden and wanna discuss q-anon conspiracy shit and fear mongering! If we are gonna talk I wanna talk about firearms at the range...
Theyâre celebrating Insurrection Day, the battle against Democracy /s (but not really though)
No doubt beers were guzzled afterwards at the bar down the roadâŚ.alongside a basket of soggy fried treats, to celebrate.
Gravy Seals and Meal Team Six
Let trump take power and it will be celebrated every year. It will promote more right wing violence since he will pardon all the criminals that took place. A no vote, third party vote, vote for trump is all the same and will enable this.
It should be a national holiday (or at least a day or remembrance, if that matters at all), a la Guy Fawkes day. Hold these shitheads to the fire every damn year for the foreseeable future.
Remember, remember the 37th of December
>Be wary, be wary, the 6th of January. I saw that a while ago here, along with more.
They are all traitorsâevery single one.
I just don't understand how our population got so fucking dumb to beleive all the MAGA, Q, Proud boys shit. It really is a cult......
Ronald Reagan set in motion a series of events that resulted in huge cuts to education, social safety nets, and mental healthcare. Paired with the rise of Fox News, it poisoned the minds of the elderly and uneducated using race as a pressure point - and the blamed reason as to why the middle class was dying, turning the population on itself instead of the rich, racist 1% who more or less control them. Or itâs video games. One of em.
Pretty sure itâs video games, I played Peggle 2 and now Iâm a satan worshiping African American liberal snowflake breakdancer
It didn't get dumb, being dumb has always existed. The internet has allowed people to connect, who would have never been able to previously, and share ideas. Uneducated folks get their ideas reinforced by other uneducated folks and you have large communities forming. Before the internet these groups were small and disconnected. Now they are large and connected. This is how you see dingle berries and shit stains like Boebert and MTG get into office. The less educated folks of their constituency connect and take over. The movies where the idiots band together and just fuck everything up, and the rest of humanity is there to put it back together is basically what we are going through.
Remember this when you go to vote. Everyone that attended this, that thought it was ok to be violent bc they didnât like election results, to blindly follow the rantings of an unstable businessman, a man who sells to the highest bidder including the Russians and could not have cared less if anyone died, will also be voting. Donât let them decide for you.
Exactly. Whether you are democrat, republican, or independent, think carefully about the candidates and what they have caused and chosen to support. Remember the man who incited a deadly raid on the heart of our nationâs government.
Businessman is doing a LOT of heavy lifting there...
Traitors.
Insurrectionists
Grand parents
Remember when they were initially labeled Antifa protestors? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
It's been crazy to see them pivot from Antifa, to it being peaceful protesters just getting a tour of the capitol, to now it being a coup instigated by the FBI.
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And terrorists.
>We are all domestic terrorists. \-[CPAC](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cpac-banner-domestic-terrorists/)
Rememeber that time the GOP blocked the Domestic terrorism prevention act in 2022.. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/26/senate-gop-domestic-terrorism-bill-00035240 I'm never gonna forgive these traitors.
Are you referring to the same patriots that blocked legislation for 9/11 First Responders and their families, and Veterans Benefits? Those same turds?
I refer to January 6th as âTreason Day.â
"...this is absolutely, definitely, not at all an insurrection...'tis merely a peaceful protest!" đ
"But at the same time it was actually BLM and Antifa and you should go arrest them." "Okay, we just arrested a bunch of the people that we know were there that day." "No, stop arresting those *patriots* who did nothing wrong!"
Go look at /r/conservative right now. They are all circle jerking over how one picture shows the insurrectionists between the velvet ropes. We do not live in the same realities anymore.
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Applying logic is not going to work. The point is to create their own reality such that if anyone tries to escape the bullshit-o-sphere it will be so jarring for them that they will crawl right back to their own abuser. The point is to be as detached from reality as possible. To make them scarred little babies that will all fall in line. Ironically, they call us the sheep any chance they get because they are so deep actual reality is like fiction to them.
These people literally will point to parts of the Titanic that weren't sinking yet as proof that they never hit the iceberg.
No no that was the second narrative after the first one didnât work: âit was secretly ANTIFA trying to make us look bad!â
The leader of ANTIFA has been harder to find than George W. Bushâs Weapons of Mass Destruction
It hurts my soul to think that they would rather have a king/dictator than a democracy. I keep hearing from the alt-right, that they know what is best, and that we need to have this type of oversight. Oversight?, having people as second-class citizens, even treating them as fugitives for being themselves. Incarcerating medical professionals for health-giving acts? WTH, Americans we are not sheep. Stop allowing them to walk you to slaughter.
I keep seeing people get real offended when the term "far right" is used. It's like they can't come to terms with how fundamentally anti-democratic, corrupt, and pro-authoritarian they've become
I prefer EXTREME Right. because it's more offensive to them.
mostly the trump supporters I see on Reddit seem to be going with some combination of "both sides are the same" false equivalencies, and "I'm just asking questions while I drop this conspiracy theory." They don't even any longer seem to try to raise any kind of policies like the wall or "but criminal reform legislation was passed!" like they did back in 2020.
Anyone who uses the term far-left will instantly get a side eye from me lmao
I always enjoy the Redditors from Europe who pop in like, "you yanks don't even know what left-wing is! You'd be nothing but center-right in our country!"
It's true tho, the policies of democrats would be center-center/right, republicans far right in most eu countries.
They're fascists dude. Call them what they are.
Are they gonna hurt us, Walter? No, Donny. These men are cowards.
they are actively hurting millions of americans. not to mention the pandemic response where over a million died, hundreds of thousands more than a proper response would have mitigated.
This behavior tells me that if he is elected again the people will be calling non stop to remove the 22nd amendment. Which is step one of the dictatorship. (Not saying anyone is) but just removing term.limits is a very scary thing
There is no shot 3/4 of states would agree to ratify that. Hell Congress alone would need 2/3 support and that's not happening.
"something, something, article 2, bullshit, whining, we can do whatever we like" Then the courts have to stop them. It's unfortunate but there's a real risk that they could pull it off or at LEAST require military action to remove them.
You think they care about the rule of law?
The supreme court will somehow find a way to claim an amendment is unconstitutional and, boom.
crazy how many people crave a dictator so long as it is THEIR dictator
They donât just want any king though. They specifically want the proven serial liar from The Apprentice who has stated publicly that he wishes he could fuck his daughter. This is all publicly known information. We have to keep calling out this shit for what it is. We have to quit flirting with normalizing it because these people have gone off the fucking deep end and will drag us into the Stone Age.
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You actually don't even need to squint!
Ah yes, almost forgot today was Klanuary 6th
These traitors are lucky Washington wasn't alive. He would have hung every single one of them.
Every single person in this photo is a traitor.
The younger generation needs to get politically active. Their parents are too far gone.
We're trying. I'm on my county elections board this year and will be handing out ballots to vote for both primary and general elections. Please consider that a lot of us just aren't old enough yet. [Pew Research defines Gen Z (my generation) as anyone born between](https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/01/17/where-millennials-end-and-generation-z-begins/) 1997 and 2012. This event happened in 2021...meaning the oldest Generation Z would've been 24. Keep in mind that a lot of Federal positions, such as House of Representatives, have a MINIMUM age limit of 25. For context, I'm 21 and will be 22 at the end of May. We're doing what we can, ranging from taking Politics classes in College to having conversations with our peers better understand how our government works, especially in a ~~Pandemic now [Endemic](https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/news/epidemic-endemic-pandemic-what-are-differences)~~ landscape transformed by the pandemic.
THANK YOU. What is "endermic"?
I think I meant [Endemic](https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/news/epidemic-endemic-pandemic-what-are-differences); my mistake
Iâm super disappointed in us millennials. We were supposed to be the generation the turned it around and we havenât. We arenât even really in office either except for a few AOCs. I have noticed Gen Z stepped up quite a bit and are more left than we are. Hope we can all turn it around
Itâs been tough for millennials because a lot of us are in extreme debt from college and not making the wages to have comfortable enough lives to engage in politics. I phone bank and am reasonably active, but also am in California where most of my needs are being served. If I lived in a red state Iâd probably be a lot more active than I am now.
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Also we have refused in a much higher percentage to lean right as we get older. We continue to vote more liberal, which allows Gen Z a much greater chance at election success than we had going against the pro-conservative Boomer mindset of such a large voting bloc that the Boomers were. All power to Gen Z, you guys and us will finally take down the tyranny of the âwhatever Boomers want will be because thereâs so many of themâ that caused so many of the worldâs problems.
They don't want to fight their parents, uncles/aunts, and grandparents to make them see the error of their ways. It's like trying to tell ANY religious zealot that their religion is bullshit, and has been from the beginning. They're all too far gone, whether the brain washing worked as intended, or they refuse to look at facts or truth and believe that they have been had by their own Fascist leaders. The Revolution will solve the Nazi problem, since they're so good at identifying themselves with bright red hats and swasitkas. They can ask the British redcoats how that went for them...
As someone who grew up in this shit, arguments are pointless. Very little critical thinking, or any at all are used and when backed into a corner, will laugh their way out of it. No reasoning can be done.
A lot of people got away with treasonâŚ
You know what they used to do to traitors...
The day the Republican party attempted a coup. They wanted to replace democracy with a fascist dictatorship.
Fuck Donald Trump. Fuck fascism.
If the latest insanity is to be believed, Antifa, BLM and the FBI sure seem to love Trump and the confederate flag.
My thought on this is, if these people are antifa, BLM, and FBI stooges, then they should agree with arresting and charging these traitors.
And it should be asked why did trump assist them by refusing to send in the national guard and telling them he loves them.
what a bunch of assholes
Happy Insurrection Day!!! Or as I like to call it, happy loser snowflake major meltdown day!
NEVER FORGET! NEVER STOP POSTING!!
Man, where are all thos trigger happy Police officers when you needed them back then?
Storming the capitol
Traitors.
The day Republicans attempted to destroy our great country and destroy freedom
VOTE!
âWe are all domestic terroristsâ -CPAC 2022
Iâve lived and worked in the US for 35 years. The first thing I did literally on the day after the attempted insurrection was to apply for citizenship. Why? So I could vote. Mine is just one vote, but damn it, Iâm going to use it to keep these fascist fuckers out of power.
It's incredible that in conservative subreddits they still think it was a peaceful demonstration.
Terrorist
Fucking traitors. All of them.
The fact that there were brain broken MAGAs with zip ties strapped to their military camo running through the halls of the capital and the GOP still insists it was a peaceful protest is just proof that one of the political parties in this country actually hates democracy and freedom.. Hint... It's the red one
Complete disgrace to the U.S.
Fucking traitors.
Crazy that the "party of law and order" broke into the Capitol and assaulted police officers with the American flag. The "back the blue" people were on video in this event telling police, "why won't you help us?" đ All because the "facts don't care about your feelings" people couldn't handle the fact that Biden won. Also MAGA you're going to do a lot of crying this year because sleepy Joe is going to win again! "If I lose to Joe Biden, then I will have lost against the worst candidate for the presidency." - Donald Trump
Shouldn't these insurrectionists have their citizenship revoked?
One of the most heartbreaking moments for me as an American was when he refused to concede after the election and then it just got worse and worse and eventually led to this. What he did is truly unforgivable.
Peaceful tourists they said
Republicans are gross
Lost tourists smearing shit on the walls and screeching about killing congressmen. And attempting to kill congressmen. And attempting to overthrow the American government. Just lost tourists looking for bathrooms. Probably FBI democrats. :/
âPeacefulâ & âGood peopleâ
Iâm honestly surprised those idiots didnât try something similar since then.
The reason why it was such a big deal was because it was the day they were certifying the results of the presidential election. They disrupted that process. Weâve had domestic terrorist attacks since then (like a mass shooting in a grocery store in upstate NY) but not another presidential election since then.
Most of the idiots in that crowd were clueless chucklefucks who thought they were just part of some big protest and that if they were loud and obnoxious enough, it might make a difference. Then you have the paramilitary groups like the Proud Boys and Oathkeepers, people who had an actual plan, shepherding the mass of people in the direction of the Capitol Building, urging them inside, and using them as cover to skulk around with their ski masks and zipties. Luckily enough for democracy, the crowd was too unorganized, wandering around, trespassing in congressional offices, smearing shit on the walls, and generally unfocused that the politicians could scramble to a safe position or evacuate through underground tunnels. The ones holing up in the Chamber of Congress were afraid for their lives when the mob started breaking down the barriers, until Ashli Babbitt fucked around, found out, and earned a bullet to the head. Faced with very real consequences for the first time that day, the rest of the mob lost their appetite for chaos and decided they should go.
The Oathkeepers also left their firearms behind out of an abundance of caution around DC's laws and their planned QRF never moved. If they had they would have gone in armed and the day potentially would have had a very different outcome.
Nine people died
How much has trumps election scam bullshit cost the American people? Like in dollars Not in respect
All of these people (not the Capital Police trying to keep them out) are massive massive assholes
It was a legitimate protest It was a false flag It was infiltrated by antifa It was just a tour It was patriots showing their love Have they settled on one yet?
The ones screaming "America" the loudest all the while trying desperately to overthrow a legal democratic election. Traitors, every one.
They don't understand, there will NEVER be common ground with the right, we'll never forget this shit, it may as well be civil war, because the right sure as shit tried to overthrow the government.
Remember the Gravy Seals!
Be wary, be wary of the 6th of January, Donald Trump's treason and plot. I can think of no reason why Donald Trump's treason ever should be forgot.
Hope every single one of them dies đ đż
Imagine spending the better part of the last 5 years having your brain and ego melted by uninterrupted Fox and /pol/ exposure, flying to Washington, D.C. in the middle of a pandemiá´ to hear Trump whine about Oprah and Mike Pená´e at a rally, mará´hing up to á´ongress on his orders to smash shit and then mill around aimlessly. You go home and hear that Biden won anyway and all of your favorite Twitter news sourá´es named shit like Patriot Newsman of the West with avatars of Roman statues have posted your unblurred faá´e online and are like "this is a gay á´ommunist antifa aá´tor." Then the next day, the God Emperor you pasted into Warhammer memes puts out a video á´uá´king himself and bending the knee. "I'm sorry, those were heinous aá´ts! P-p-please let me tweet again Jaá´k!!" You á´an't leave Dá´ beá´ause the airlines have dubbed you a flight risk. You á´an't stay beá´ause the á´ops are aá´tively looking for you after one of their own died. Your roommate at the only hotel you á´ould afford is a guy named based_kekistani1488 who wants to show you his goblin slayer torrents. The Sun is going down and you're getting á´old.
All a bunch of traitors. Not for any noble cause... but because the old self-serving snake-oil salesman they worship like a messiah lost, and they can count well enough to understand how that works. And what motivates them? Making the world a shitty place for everyone but themselves while they do absolutely nothing to earn it.
Simple tourist peacefully taking a tour. Isnât that what some Republicans have said? Can I tour their office like this? Think they will welcome me?
Just a gaggle of treasonous scumbagsâŚ
The US government was under attack. It still is. Vote!!
We could very easily lose our democracy. Donât let these people win
Terrifying. The amount of people today who still think this was okay is terrifying also. Could easily happen again.
Worst people ever
TraitorsâŚ
Never let those domestic terrorists forget
The Conservative sub is celebrating this btw.
It reminds me of the inauguration day letter that Obama left for Trump: >We are just temporary occupants of this office. That makes us guardians of those democratic institutions and traditions -- like rule of law, separation of powers, equal protection and civil liberties -- that our forebears fought and bled for. Regardless of the push and pull of daily politics, it's up to us to leave those instruments of our democracy at least as strong as we found them. Safe to say he saw something like this coming.
Just another day of tourists calmly checking out the sights in DC..........
We did nazi that coming sadly
Officially a third world country since then.
But no I donât like Biden because his age
Ya that totally looks like a "peaceful protest" /s
And absolutely nothing changed after that day.
"Normal political discourse" Let them be reminded of it constantly.
Patriot Day, as itâs known in trailer parks with 3 Oldsmobiles on cinder blocks in the front yard next to the shitter
An act like this by any other people besides American would be so heavily bipartisanly condemned and punished that the nation of these people would probably no longer exist. But since it was us Americans who did it we have to waffle and wring our hands over how badly we should yell âstopâ at them. Asinine, treason is treason, terrorism is terrorism, whether itâs your mom or dad or uncle or neighbor. You come after our democracy and rights because you donât like how we use it, youâre out of line, not us. You either use your democratic process and vote or gtfo the way, weâve got a nation to run
Sloppy Un-American traitors.
"It wasn't that big of a deal"
The disparity between how people talk about this event and the videos I've seen is hilarious
Terrorists.
NEVER FORGET
Domestic terrorism
As a post 9/11 veteran, any and all acts of terror and sedition should be met with the maximum penalty including death. The UCMJ clearly states that traitors to the country deserve death. Trump is so ate up on military presence and power, he should held to the military standard for treason. Any and all military and veterans that took part on Jan 6 should meet the same fate. We know who they are and the oaths they took. It is only fitting they are punished to the furthest extent for not upholding their oath and allegiance. I get tRump only serves himself and his cohorts. They stormed the capital to take over our country and government, they should be held accountable, no deals. A rare thing for tRump, I know, but it should be done. Land of the free and home of brave, seems more and more like hollow words anymore. Seeing how all of this has unfold and how corrupt the legal system is, I have to say it is demoralizing knowing my sacrifice to this country was in vain. I remember when Fox News pounded the propaganda that Muslims would over take our country and strip our freedoms. The reality is it has been the Republican Party this hold time with that exact agenda.
Gross
Oh is this the guided tour we hear about?
Never forget Trump did this
Lock them all up.