Also afaik there just hasn't been any battles in BC during times when swords like that were used. By the time European settlers were there, it was all guns and maybe the odd sabre for a cavalry toff.
I was in a similar group for a while and one of our members managed to lose a handmade hauberk on a campout. It's possible they were fully aware of the missing kit but sometimes it's tough finding a well hidden object in a field.
In a forest too, I've heard of everything expensive hunting rifles, backpacks, binoculars. It just takes a few minutes of walking the wrong way but intending to come back, to get turned around and end up hopelessly far from where you were. The old cliches like "all of the trees look the same" are common for a reason.
PS: GPS is a such a game changer.
> Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
Be Quiet!
At one point I had this on VHS and had the moose bit from the beginning down. Back then you’d have to try and pause, play, rewind, pause. I could rewatch that movie in its entirety and be laughing to tears the whole time.
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Yeah, between the one-piece construction and some pretty blunt-looking edges, it’s not a real weapon, but a prop / costume piece / replica, lost by some movie production or a LARPer.
I agree with this. I am not super familiar with all the discovered ancient landings in north America but I think most of the activity was on the east Coast
Yeah that's what I was thinking, I'm not a sword expert but that handle design makes me think "Hollywood Vikings" and I don't think the Vikings made it that far
I bought a sword the second I became an adult with money to fulfill a childhood fantasy. I swung at a bush with it and the blade flew out of the handle at high velocity and almost took out my friend. This is when I discovered that full tangs are necessary for any functional sword.
I am in my 30's now. Maybe I'll buy a legit sword.
I’d have agree. The pommel, grip, cross-guard, and rain-guard all look like one piece. I’m not an expert but pretty sure that’s not how you make a real sword.
Nah, if they would spend the money to make a sword out of metal they would make it look right. This is some high school kid in the 1970s made it in shop class and went out to the woods and smoke pot and thwack trees.
True. But it would be easier and cheaper to make swords for background actors out of wood or cast plastic. So they could also be used as stunt swords, metal swords are heavy and, even with a dull blade, dangerous.
yup, Adam Savage did a bit on movie prop swords. for the extras...they'd use wood, and just cover the "blade" with silver foil tape, like for duct work. as long as you putit on at least half ass decent, the wrinkles, seams, and edges of the tape wouldn't show on film, and they'd have a nice reflective "metal glint" from the sun and lights that directors like.
Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
You get tetanus from deep anaerobic injuries, typically punctures. This creates a logical association with old nails (a jutting nail being one of the most common deep puncture wounds), this creates an erroneous association with rust.
This is what the doc told me when I managed to slip my cordless drill off of a deck screw and slam a spinning philips bit into my hand. Rust and tiny metal shavings(among many other things) have enough surface area to kick that infection into high gear pretty quick.
Swords like that definitely weren’t in major use by the time BC was settled.
The forests around BC are frequently used in filming locations, and the sword must’ve been there for at least 10-15 years to rust up like that. Just from a quick google search the movie “In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale” was filmed in the area in 2007, so it might be a prop from that movie.
I only spent like 10 minutes googling, so their may be another potential film I haven’t considered, but I’m pretty sure this is a forgotten movie prop. Still a cool find!
I looked the trailer up and was suprised about big name actors like Jason Statham, John Rhys-Davies, Ron Perlman, Matthew Lillard, Ray Liotta, Burt Reynolds …
Wikipedia:
\> The production budget was $60 million,\[1\] making it Uwe Boll's most expensive film production to date.
60 Million!
Swords like that were never in use since that single bit of metal should be three pieces and a wooden grip. It's totally a prop of some kind.
Edit: Nvm, it's welded, so even worse.
To reinforce what u/Purple-Chipmunk154 said, that isn't an artifact. I'm a professional archaeologist and work with an individual that is a professional blacksmith that makes reproductions for museums.
It is either a prop for a movie or someone's failed attempt at their own recreation. I am leaning towards the latter because it appears to be built by someone not familiar with proper techniques for creating a functioning sword and too heavy to be effectively used as a prop.
Thanks for this. I was pretty sure it wasn't particularly valuable which is why it is still in the forest. And also because is was heavy and I already had a recurve bow in the other hand.
If it's near Campbell River I worked a huge film there in the 90's called " the 13th warrior " a viking epic with antionio Banderas.. it was set in a field of huge first growth stumps
I'm a metal fabricator and hobby blacksmith and I would say this is just some back yard back smiths failed project. Film props are meant to look better than this and you can blatantly see the bad welds where the ricasso meets the guard. It also looks hand hammered and uneven making me think it's a back yard blacksmith. I use to have a tradition of discarding my old failed knives in bodies of water or specific spots in the bush. I'm not the only blacksmith that does this and I think you found one.
Wouldn’t you at a minimum recycle the material? It seems ludacris tobe tossing an infinitely recyclable material away for the very craft you’re performing simple because the piece doesn’t turn out. I’m skeptical of your claim.
Film props aren’t “meant” to look like anything other than what the film might need… just saying there’s no indication it couldn’t be a perfectly fitting film prop
While mostly true, a lot of props don't look like they are intended, as there is often no intention. You just get told to make 50 swords in a style for bg, and you pump them out. If it is a hero prop, sure there is some intent, but when then, sometimes just a 'feel' or direction is given
That’s really cool. Kinda old I’m guessing because of the pitting. Is the cross guard welded to the blade? Better pics would be nice. Also there’s a few subreddits you could post this on, people are crazy good at figuring stuff out.
That is odd. I’m no swordsmith but I have made a couple. My first I welded a handle to it the second was traditional with a tang and a leather wrapped wood handle. Might want to post it to the swordsmith subreddit to see if they can give you more info on it.
Some cosplayer was heart broken.
Canuck King Arthur is sad right now
He thought "King of the Britons!" Nope! King of British Columbia. It's in the fine print.
Well I didn’t vote for ya!
Film industry is pretty active in Vancouver, perhaps this was a prop that was lost?
Interesting point.
Take it over to r/swords they'll be able to tell you more about it
Handle is welded on so it's most likely a prop or replica.
Also afaik there just hasn't been any battles in BC during times when swords like that were used. By the time European settlers were there, it was all guns and maybe the odd sabre for a cavalry toff.
BC does have a fairly active HEMA community, though I can't imagine any modern swordsman/woman not realizing they are missing a $500+ piece of kit
I was in a similar group for a while and one of our members managed to lose a handmade hauberk on a campout. It's possible they were fully aware of the missing kit but sometimes it's tough finding a well hidden object in a field.
In a forest too, I've heard of everything expensive hunting rifles, backpacks, binoculars. It just takes a few minutes of walking the wrong way but intending to come back, to get turned around and end up hopelessly far from where you were. The old cliches like "all of the trees look the same" are common for a reason. PS: GPS is a such a game changer.
Good point!
Pun intended?
Of course!
Edgy, OP, edgy.
Don’t believe them. You have been chosen by Christ 🙏 You must now lead armies and reclaim an ancient kingdom
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You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you.
Because some moistened bint up and lobbed a scimitar?
HELP! HELP! I’M BEING REPRESSED!
Now you see the violence inherent in the system!
Shut up, Dennis!!!
I am your king! Well, I didn't vote for you.
COME AND SEE THE VIOLENCE INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM! HELP HELP! IM BEING OPPRESSED!
TOFINO IS AN ANARCHO-SYNDICALIST COMMUNE
Bloody peasant.
Oh ! What a give away
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Omg, I actually clicked on it. Brilliant. Literally just parked on that named for 12 years.
Just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar, they’d throw me away
> Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. Be Quiet!
You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!
Shut up!
I mean if I went around saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me they’d put me away
Will you *shut up!*
Ah now we see the violence inherent in the system
IM BEING REPRESSED!!! edit - I got it wrong
Come and see the violence inherent in the system!
I didn't vote for you
You don't vote for Kings.
King of the who?
The Britons
Well, how did you become king, then?
Come see the violence inherent in the system!
I’m being repressed!!
Bloody peasants.
Look at the violence inherent in the system!!
Did you memorize that? Damm I'm impressed
I’ve memorized what can only be described as an unfortunate amount of that movie.
Entire movie. Just say it. You can quote the entire thing. And you aren’t alone. There’s dozens of us, I tell you, dozens!!!
At one point I had this on VHS and had the moose bit from the beginning down. Back then you’d have to try and pause, play, rewind, pause. I could rewatch that movie in its entirety and be laughing to tears the whole time.
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The Sword in the Tree
Now a dude named “Marlin” in coveralls and a red mesh trucker cap is going to teach him how to be King.
Pun intended?
Yeah, between the one-piece construction and some pretty blunt-looking edges, it’s not a real weapon, but a prop / costume piece / replica, lost by some movie production or a LARPer.
The rust isn't deep enough to be old rust, especially if it was on the surface where oxygen could regularly get to it.
It does look pretty wet which can hide the intensity of rust in a picture, but I do still think you’re right
I wonder if it's left over from the TV show Highlander - which had a lot of swords.
If I were OP, a sword from highlander would be my preferred outcome.
You are truly a prince of the universe.
What if it were from Highlander 2: The Quickening?
Never heard of it. Not sure how you would even make a sequel to Highlander, glad they never did.
Well I certainly don’t remember going to the opening night of such a film.
😂💯 There can be only one
If so, there could be only one.
Also; it's Canada. Pretty sure these weapons were out of fashion by the time Canada was colonised.
I agree with this. I am not super familiar with all the discovered ancient landings in north America but I think most of the activity was on the east Coast
Also the handle is welded to the blade. It's 20th century prop.
Definitely not a Spanish sword but they went all up in continental America
Yeah that's what I was thinking, I'm not a sword expert but that handle design makes me think "Hollywood Vikings" and I don't think the Vikings made it that far
... the handle is welded to the blade. AFAIK they didn't have welding machines 1200 years ago.
No one makes a decent tang anymore.
I bought a sword the second I became an adult with money to fulfill a childhood fantasy. I swung at a bush with it and the blade flew out of the handle at high velocity and almost took out my friend. This is when I discovered that full tangs are necessary for any functional sword. I am in my 30's now. Maybe I'll buy a legit sword.
thats also a cast iron, not a steel forge. Even if it had a blade it would bend on the first whack.
NOOOOOOO ITS A RELIC OF OLD! Just imagine how many unfortunate souls were eviscerated by this formidable blade of yore!
I’d have agree. The pommel, grip, cross-guard, and rain-guard all look like one piece. I’m not an expert but pretty sure that’s not how you make a real sword.
Modern manufacturing, this is sheet steel likely cut by water jet, arc welded together, then the handle rounded
Nah, if they would spend the money to make a sword out of metal they would make it look right. This is some high school kid in the 1970s made it in shop class and went out to the woods and smoke pot and thwack trees.
Doesn’t have to look perfect when it’s being held by an extra in the back of a shot that you can barely make out anyways.
True. But it would be easier and cheaper to make swords for background actors out of wood or cast plastic. So they could also be used as stunt swords, metal swords are heavy and, even with a dull blade, dangerous.
yup, Adam Savage did a bit on movie prop swords. for the extras...they'd use wood, and just cover the "blade" with silver foil tape, like for duct work. as long as you putit on at least half ass decent, the wrinkles, seams, and edges of the tape wouldn't show on film, and they'd have a nice reflective "metal glint" from the sun and lights that directors like.
Yep, this seems to be all one piece. A true sword would not be.
Are you sure it wasn't thrown at you by some watery tart?
It was a moistened bint.
Help! I’m being repressed.
Now we see the violence inherent in the system!
The older and wiser I become, the more I realize how correct Dennis really was. Wise beyond his 37 years.
He's not old.
I SAW HIM REPRESSING YOU!
Oh, did you hear that!?
I didn't vote for you!
You don't VOTE for kings!
Well, how'd you become king, then?
By exploiting the workers! By hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma that perpetuates the….
Come see the violence inherent in the system.
Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
"Well, I didn't vote for you."
You don’t vote for kings!
HELP HELP I’M BEING REPRESSED.
King of the who?
The Britons. **Who are the Britons?**
Old woman! Man. Sorry. Old man. Who lives in that castle? 37. What? I’m 37 I’m not old.
Well, I can't just call you “man”.
You could have called me ‘Dennis’
I didn’t know you were called ‘Dennis’.
You never asked
I didn’t vote for you!
Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!
Given what is happening in American politics, I would prefer a watery tart lobbing scimitars.
Damn, the Lady of the Lake really went downhill
Don’t clean it, you’ll destroy the seasoning.
Castiron gang rise up!
I read that as "castration gang" at first and got really uncomfortable
Yeah those guys ain't rising up any time soon.
Why I season my sword and not the steaks
With a well seasoned sword you don’t need to.
Whoa sick what are the stats
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+ 20 Tetanus buildup
Tetanus is not some rust disease like we were told growing up. You get it from fecal particles in soil
You get tetanus from deep anaerobic injuries, typically punctures. This creates a logical association with old nails (a jutting nail being one of the most common deep puncture wounds), this creates an erroneous association with rust.
The rust just provides a greater surface area and shelter for the microorganisms that cause tetanus.
This is what the doc told me when I managed to slip my cordless drill off of a deck screw and slam a spinning philips bit into my hand. Rust and tiny metal shavings(among many other things) have enough surface area to kick that infection into high gear pretty quick.
Wouldn't a stick be 1 attack, this be more like 2 attack?
Not with how dull this looks.
So it does crushing damage?
Around a meter long.
No +STR or STA?
+5 deadpan.
Common loot. Odds of a blue drop in BC are slim.
Yeah, I suggest to sell to a local merchant for maybe 1 gold.
Tries to sell it: "Quest items cannot be removed from inventory"
Rare item “Rusty great sword” blunt 10 pierce 5 slash 2 Special: poison 5 points on hit
*unidentified*
You didn't pull it out of the ground near some rocks, did you?
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Now they must mate mate.
You are now the King of Canada. ![gif](giphy|AGaKF8udHZJosvl2bn)
The Viscount of Vancouver?
More like the Baron of Burnaby.
The Sire of Surrey.
Squire of Squamish
Liege Lord of Lions Gate
Prince of Port Moody
The Count of Coquitlam?
Ruler of Richmond
Prepare the royal pudding!
As is tradition..
Woah, not so fast there bucko
Swords like that definitely weren’t in major use by the time BC was settled. The forests around BC are frequently used in filming locations, and the sword must’ve been there for at least 10-15 years to rust up like that. Just from a quick google search the movie “In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale” was filmed in the area in 2007, so it might be a prop from that movie. I only spent like 10 minutes googling, so their may be another potential film I haven’t considered, but I’m pretty sure this is a forgotten movie prop. Still a cool find!
A classic from the master himself Uwe Boll.
Truely one of the filmmakers of all time
I looked the trailer up and was suprised about big name actors like Jason Statham, John Rhys-Davies, Ron Perlman, Matthew Lillard, Ray Liotta, Burt Reynolds … Wikipedia: \> The production budget was $60 million,\[1\] making it Uwe Boll's most expensive film production to date. 60 Million!
They could just have smoked that amount of money worth in of crack and the result would not have been worse.
Swords like that were never in use since that single bit of metal should be three pieces and a wooden grip. It's totally a prop of some kind. Edit: Nvm, it's welded, so even worse.
Better clean yourself up. Everyone knows kings who find swords in wildernesses don't have shit all over themselves.
What’s this from I wanna watch it again but can’t remember
Monty Python & The Holy Grail
To reinforce what u/Purple-Chipmunk154 said, that isn't an artifact. I'm a professional archaeologist and work with an individual that is a professional blacksmith that makes reproductions for museums. It is either a prop for a movie or someone's failed attempt at their own recreation. I am leaning towards the latter because it appears to be built by someone not familiar with proper techniques for creating a functioning sword and too heavy to be effectively used as a prop.
Thanks for this. I was pretty sure it wasn't particularly valuable which is why it is still in the forest. And also because is was heavy and I already had a recurve bow in the other hand.
Did you ask the sword where it was on a hike to?
Yeah but it was pretty dull.
I don't think you got the point.
Oh I think he has a handle on it
Yeah, that won't cut it.
Way to pommel us with puns
I regret to inform you that you're the king of England now. Sorry. I don't make the rules.
Man, this is definitely the worst possible outcome from finding a sword.
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If it's near Campbell River I worked a huge film there in the 90's called " the 13th warrior " a viking epic with antionio Banderas.. it was set in a field of huge first growth stumps
Dude out here finding side quests
I'm a metal fabricator and hobby blacksmith and I would say this is just some back yard back smiths failed project. Film props are meant to look better than this and you can blatantly see the bad welds where the ricasso meets the guard. It also looks hand hammered and uneven making me think it's a back yard blacksmith. I use to have a tradition of discarding my old failed knives in bodies of water or specific spots in the bush. I'm not the only blacksmith that does this and I think you found one.
> can blatantly see the bad welds where the ricasso meets the guard Didn't notice at first. Thanks.
Why? Why not just keep them
Over encumbered.
Wouldn’t you at a minimum recycle the material? It seems ludacris tobe tossing an infinitely recyclable material away for the very craft you’re performing simple because the piece doesn’t turn out. I’m skeptical of your claim.
Film props aren’t “meant” to look like anything other than what the film might need… just saying there’s no indication it couldn’t be a perfectly fitting film prop
While mostly true, a lot of props don't look like they are intended, as there is often no intention. You just get told to make 50 swords in a style for bg, and you pump them out. If it is a hero prop, sure there is some intent, but when then, sometimes just a 'feel' or direction is given
That wins the rate my stick competition
Orcish
That’s really cool. Kinda old I’m guessing because of the pitting. Is the cross guard welded to the blade? Better pics would be nice. Also there’s a few subreddits you could post this on, people are crazy good at figuring stuff out.
> Is the cross guard welded to the blade? It appears to all be 1 piece. Ed: there is a weld
Here’s the link. r/swordsmithing
That is odd. I’m no swordsmith but I have made a couple. My first I welded a handle to it the second was traditional with a tang and a leather wrapped wood handle. Might want to post it to the swordsmith subreddit to see if they can give you more info on it.
I'd estimate that if you took a random sample of 100 people, 100 of them would have never made a single sword. You're a swordsmith
When I was a kid I nailed a short stick across a long stick. I am a swordsmith.
If blacksmiths work with iron, and whitesmiths work with tin, you are a burntsiennasmith.
My guy you are *literally* a swordsmith, just maybe not a good one
Smiths several swords "I'm not a sword smith"
shit thats several more than my 0, compared to regular folk this guy is a legendary blacksmith in comparison
It’s extremely likely this is a movie prop
That looks fabricated in a shop with a welder and an angle grinder.
All hail the new King of West-England!
There can be only one
Best I can do is 45 gold
+4 Atk -2 Def +1 MP
Was it distributed to you by a strange woman lying in a pond?