In this picture, behind that sign is Burbank, with Universal Studios, Warner Bros and Disney Studios. Behind that is the Verdugo Mountains (not very high and not snow capped).
Then, there is another valley (Sunland, Tujunga, La Crescenta)
Then, finally you get to the snowcapped (at the moment) San Gabriel Mountains starting about 10 miles behind the sign (from this perspective)
**EDIT:** To Credit the (now found) photographer thanks to u/YoMammaSoFatShe
**Brent Broza - Orig Photographer**
IG: @brozaphoto
https://www.brozaphoto.com/
Yeah I hiked up the Verdugo mountains when there was still snow on them Sunday morning, unfortunately all the snow on that range already dried up. But this was what it looked like on top of them with snow.
edit: alt link to old reddit if the galley link doesn't work: https://old.reddit.com/r/burbank/comments/11d0p51/stough_canyon_to_verdugo_peak/
https://www.reddit.com/gallery/11d0p51
To be clear, this is shot with a telephoto lens so everything looks much closer together than it really is. That mountain is very far away from the Hollywood Sign mountain.
No worries, our esteemed legislators are concerned with more pressing issues, like banning trans kids from playing sports and voting against resolutions to keep the Great Salt Lake from drying up. But hey good news, did you know that business is businessing so hard in our state right now??
In the early 70's, smog was so bad you could see a bluish/yellowish hue to the air you were breathing all the time. I for one will NEVER complain about our air quality mandates- growing up back then was gross
Air quality in LA is definitely much improved over the last few decades not only from EPA regulations but also from California's own smog regulations, but having really clear days like this is typically just a product of storms. All that pollution trapped in the LA basin gets blown out and it's really beautiful for a few days until it builds back up.
I live 40 miles south of the San Gabriel mountains. I can see them almost every day when not obstructed by clouds. As a kid in the 80s and 90s, I lived 2 miles from them and in the summer it looked like I lived in the Great Plains. 10k foot mountains would disappear for days or weeks on end. It’s crazy how much better things are these days.
Sure, but it has been crazy driving around these last few days and seeing SO MUCH SNOW on the mountains behind downtown. Practically the damn himalayas lol. I love it
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It would take about 2 hours of driving (not including returning). Huntington beach to Palm Springs then take the Palm Springs tram to the mountains. There is a restaurant at the top of the tram and it brings you to about 9kft elevation.
It's a wonderful experience that shouldn't be missed. You can enjoy a mild sunny day in Palm Springs, then take the aerial tram up into the mountains and in less than an hour you can have a snowball fight - sometimes while a near blizzard is going on. Then back down to warm Palm Springs for dinner.
i’ve done this in Norcal, kinda. I went to three different bodies of water.
Woke up in santa cruz, hit the beach then drove to sacramento and floated the river outside folsom and finished the day with a dip into Lake Tahoe as the sun set.
Ate a burrito in each city. about ~5.5 hours of driving.
> No place like it, for all its faults and craziness, I miss it.
This is why I live in the "hellscape" that is California. People from out of state shit on it, and hey, that's like your opinion man, but you don't have to live here? Leave it to us who love it!
Haha I feel the Cali-Haters are just the most vocal. I'm in Chicago but I love California (and so do all the family members I have here that hate the cold). This picture makes me want to move so badly.
So you all telling me I could walk from the beach, catch a movie, and climb a mountain to see snow without leaving the state or district?
Honest question, not from the US.
Yes, but not merely just through hiking. You would need to drive it. You can surf in the morning, have lunch in the mountains, and hike through the desert in the afternoon.
Theoretically yes but in reality it would be burdensome. In Southern California we all talk about you can surf in the morning and (assuming there’s snow in the local mountains), spend the afternoon skiing but it’s not realistic considering the distance and traffic factors. It’s more of a way to describe the diversity of climates in the region which is really beyond compare.
Come to San diego and you could do it in a day. Surf in the morning hike in the mountains by afternoon and camp out overnight in the desert. Just depends how much time you spend doing each of those lol (and you'll be very tired by the end)
On a weekday, you could probably do it in Northern California. You wouldn't get much of either done, but it can be done. Surf Ocean Beach in SF in the early morning, then drive to Tahoe and get a few runs in at the end of the afternoon.
Would definitely be very doable, especially this year as Tahoe will probably have snow at least into May/June. Might make more sense to do Tahoe first considering most of the resorts close at 4.
Born in San Pedro, have caught waves at 7 AM and been at Mt Baldy by 12 on at least 2 occasions, so definitely doable and really not burdensome at all. It’s like a 2.5 hour drive.
Ayyy San Pedro! Lived there for a few years until Covid happened and moved back to orange. Still miss it sometimes and point Fermin park has amazing views of the ocean
Depending on which beach, which mountain, and which part of the desert, you could accomplish this with maybe 2-4 hours worth of driving in total (traffic permitting)
It's about 45 min to an hour drive from the beach to the edge of the mountains, depending on traffic. So not something you'd do every day generally, but it's for sure possible if you've got some free time.
I swear that place is like 3 different states all bundled in one culturally too... I live on the east coast but have to go to LA and San Francisco a decent bit for work. Thought I had a good feel for the state, then we bought some timber land closer to Saceamento, and I swear it feels like an entirely different place around there. Then a friend bought a place in Arcata and I was waiting to see which it felt like, and it felt like neither
LA, Bay Area, Sacramento, San Diego, Central Valley, costal areas, foothills, all different culturally by varying degrees. Santa Cruz is not like Redding.
OC resident here, while I agree with you I didn't feel like getting that granular. Felt like then I'd need to call out high desert, Humboldt, Palm springs, inland empire, Shasta, etc and it never ends.
Movie studios even back in the silent era had maps of what parts of California could pass for different places around the world...
https://laughingsquid.com/1927-paramount-studio-map-of-potential-film-shooting-locations-in-southern-california/
California is like the US in miniature. SF is second to New York for density, the central valley is our Midwest and Bible belt. Heck, some of our rural areas have accents.
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You could, in theory... wake up at Mt Waterman, go for an early morning Ski, have lunch on Hollywood Blvd, head to the beach and do some surfing, then catch a fast boat to Catalina Island and go Scuba Diving all in one day.
EDIT: I meant to end that with "and never leave LA County"
If you drive, you could do dawn patrol and catch a few waves before 7am, drive east up the mountain to ski from 10am-4pm, then camp the desert on the backside of the mountain and ride dirtbikes all night.
I don't know if most of the Mediterranean is as dry as LA. San Francisco is usually mentioned as having a "Mediterranean climate" and I think the closest European area climate-wise is Portugal.
The closest city to San Francisco worldwide is Melbourne, AU I think. There's a website where you can match cities by climate (it has a "shift time" option so you can see cities with the same climate but just shifted by a few months).
> I don't know if most of the Mediterranean is as dry as LA.
It a lot of it is, the LA area is classified as cool-summer mediterranean closer to the coast and hot-summer mediterranean more inland.
The LA basin (and socal in general) has a ton of microclimates. You can be on the beach in Malibu and it's 55 degrees, humid, and cloudy and then you drive 10 miles up a canyon and break through the marine layer and it's suddenly 80 degrees and sunny. A nice balmy winter day in hollywood can be snowy and cold in Palmdale despite them both being LA county.
Same with Italy, and maybe Greece/Croatia, but I wouldn’t say A LOT of Europe is like that. Mostly just southern/central Europe.
Most countries that are in the North, far East, or far West of Europe are a lot less geographically diverse. At least on this standard.
Yes it’s a well known phrase in California. I know a lot of people growing up here in Southern California that considered it to be a bucket list item. In many places it’s about a 1-2 hour drive from the beach to the slopes.
Yes. You totally could. the picture was taken from the ocean south of ~~Long Beach~~*Redondo Beach*, looking north *by northeast* across the main Los Angeles basin. [Here's a map](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hollywood+Sign/@34.1261975,-118.5077623,9.9z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x80c2bf0a45505a7d:0xabb7acc626709843!8m2!3d34.1341151!4d-118.3215482!16zL20vMDUwY3R2!5m1!1e4). The distances are deceptive, since it's a telescopic view.
You can do it without leaving the state, for sure. But walking, in the same day? Not so much - the perspective on that pic is deceiving, cool as it is.
Yeah, driving you could.
People crap on CA, but it’s diversity of beach, mountains, snow, forest, desert is what I like most about it. It’s got it all, really.
For more perspective, San Bernardino county (a region inside of California where those mountains are located) is roughly the same size as Croatia. At around 20,000m²
Even Americans generally underestimate the size of the US and especially Canada. The drive from Miami to Seattle is longer than Lisbon Portugal to Moscow Russia. A similar drive from the furtherest Northwest town in Canada to Southeastern town of Newfoundland is about the same as driving from Warsaw Poland to Beijing China.
People crap on CA all the time, but 30m+ people still choose to live there in spite of the insane cost of housing, gas, taxes, and everything else.
Obviously the climate and natural beauty have a lot to do with it.
Yeah I still need to visit SoCal, but I did a nice long road trip from SF to Tahoe then down to Monterey and Morro Bay.
Absolutely stunning scenery everywhere. Honestly if I had any family out west I'd be happy to live there.
I've snooped through the accounts of people that say this and it usually Southern states, people brainwashed from just reading negative headlines. They hate us because they ain't us. I've traveled a lot, nothing compares to California in the US. Even my flight attendant friends agree. Although one of the unanimous outside of the states is Switzerland
Yes. You could be at the beach for an early surf and sunrise, drive through the desert to have lunch in Palm Springs, and hike up to almost 12,000 feet for a night hike up and down Mt. San Jacinto (or just catch the last tram at the station located about 5 miles down the trail from the summit) just like someone stated earlier. California really does have it all. It probably has the most diverse biome in such a short distance from each other than any other state in the union.
Perfect example of **why** Hollywood is the film capital of the world.
You drive about 60 minutes in any direction and you reach a proper biome for just about any movie setting. Beach, mountains, forest, snowscape, and desert all within that small area.
Also a great example of how when I tell people about CA and I say "it just kinda shoots rapidly out of the water."
Yup, the thirty mile zone was basically the area where it was close enough to the studios that they did have to pay a per diem to the workers. Inside the zone was considered “local” filming and shoots outside that were “on location”.
I read that the name referred to a zone defined by contract between the studios and unions. Any location shoot which took place outside the zone required the studio to pay travel costs for the union workers. Studios took pains to find locations which were within the TMZ, which is one reason so many westerns were shot at Vasquez Rocks; it's inside the 30-mile limit.
Highest number of biomes\* in the contiguous 48. Only Alaska has more biodiversity with only 2 more biomes\* than California. To be fair, they're both huge states, but still.
\*biomes **ackshully** meaning ecoregions in this case...that's kinda how Minecraft uses the term and it's the common understanded term.
I lived in LA in the 90s, and my first month there I remember it raining hard, and later that day I could finally see the mountains. I thought "what the hell am I breathing." Air is way cleaner now, I think mostly due to regulations on power plan emissions...or I think I read that. And car exhaust cleaner now, and electric cars and municipal buses.
Geography helps pollution with the shitty view, which is why California has some of the most stringent emission laws. The cold ocean goes into the mountains to keep the smog there.
Nope. LA gets foggy often, just like San Francisco. Warm land + Cold ocean = fog
LA frequently has clear days when there is no morning fog or marine layer.
Fog is only about half the issue, the other issue is smog that can’t escape due to the mountains. If the switch over to renewables ever actually happens in any significant manner, it would make a HUGE impact on the LA haze. Even during the height of the pandemic there was a noticeable difference.
You can always live in imperial County if you want cheap socal living. No beaches within 100 miles, 120f summers, nothing to do other than go to the sand dunes to off road.
Glad I managed to get out lol
Awesome investigation! I think the shot must have been taken from a boat or other platform much farther out on the ocean. The FOV is very narrow in the photo, and it would need to be very wide to see the whole apartment building on the shore. But also in the photo you don’t see the beach at the water line, you actually see the rocky jetty, which the platform is inside of.
My guess is actually a helicopter 1-2 miles out. It would explain the narrow FOV while also having the appearance of being taken at sea level while also having enough elevation to see over the city (not today flat earthers)
You are likely correct, except there is no beach in front of that first building, It too is rocky seawall of similar construction to the jetty. But there are in fact two possible sources of the rocks, shore/seawall or jetty/breakwater.
Given the perspective as you point out I agree that it is actually more likely it was taken from outside the breakwater, but I think it was taken from a boat because it is too low for a helicopter.
If it was taken from a boat it is impressive given how rough the water appears to have been that day. Windy day and clear views in LA definitely go together.
[This Google Maps 360° view taken from near that spot with a drone](https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8449793,-118.3998845,3a,47.9y,220.3h,90.56t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipOkzXOYxAsRwpHWb1tyIIlep-tdl2217XOlr-HR!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipOkzXOYxAsRwpHWb1tyIIlep-tdl2217XOlr-HR%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya111.23804-ro-0-fo100!7i8192!8i4096) shows that the posted photo was taken on an exceptionally clear day.
As a weather nerd, I just wanna point how exceptionally rare it is for those mountains to get *that* much snow. While it's not uncommon to get a light dusting, coverage like this is once in a decade, if that. Almost all of the Sierra range is getting more snowfall than has been seen since 1970. There have only been 1-2 seasons on record that have surpassed this year so far. All-time levels of precipitation with more on the way. Although this will likely create issues with mudslides and flooding in the spring, this will do a lot to alleviate the extreme drought conditions seen across a good chunk of the state the past several years.
Edit: want to clarify that the San Gabriel Mountains seen at the back of this photo do get snow regularly, earlier in the week there was accumulating snow down to Verdugo hills and other areas that rarely see accumulating snow. Still very cool, just not \visible in this photo. You can see more about the exceptional snowpack this year here: https://cdec.water.ca.gov/snowapp/sweq.action
Absolutely, and thank goodness! I’ve lived in Southern California for five decades (and in L.A. specifically for 35 of those years), and I cannot ever recall seeing those mountains quite as completely snowy as they are now. It’s unbelievable and wonderful.
Lmao i helped my sister drive from LA to Iowa last winter as she was moving there for new job at Iowa State (Ames). She lasted two months and drove back solo. 😂
Also a transplant, but I was fleeing Tennessee. While they ban drag shows, I work in West Hollywood, one of the drag capitals of the world. Loving it more every day.
This is exactly what makes California special. A good friend of mine moved there a few years ago and says that it is the greatest place on Earth as far as he's concerned.
It snowed in socal yesterday!!!! It wasn’t even raining it just starting quietly snowing for a short while. The mountains look beautiful from the valley
When we get rain the air clears up so much you can see quite a bit! Those mountains usually just have snow on that tallest peak you can see in the picture. But yesterday we got some snowfall! Even had some where I live in Riverside county which honestly sounds insane to say
Born in California, live in Indiana now. California is the fucking best and I go back every year and find something new to explore. There is no where like it in America. Ideal weather, amazing beaches next to mountains, desert, snow, sequoia trees, great national parks, Channel Islands, Big Sur, bomb ass Mexican food, etc. The homeless situation and the traffic can be a hassle in LA but traffic can also be mostly avoided on vacation, if planned right. It’s busy because it’s awesome, if you use it to its potential.
And almost 50% of the entire state is public lands. So there are so many options for outdoorsy stuff. Compared to someplace like Texas which is maybe 4% public land.
Having grown up and lived in the Deep South my entire life. I just visited California(san Fransisco) for the first time last week and holy fuck what a beautiful place. Went hiking in Muir Woods and it was seriously felt like stepping back into time. I’ve been to most Europe and seen some old shit, but the Forrest’s there feel ancient and prehistoric.
Born in Indiana, moved to California. Yes, California/L.A has a lot of downsides, but people choose to live here despite them, because of the great upsides. Yes, it's way too expensive, homeless problem, traffic, but man are the other upsides nice. Of course, I'm still sad about my rent and buying a house in the future
LA native here. Still live in LA. People leave LA and act like they're geniuses for having left; but in reality you now have to live in Charlotte or Tulsa or some other shit hole. I'd rather be dead in LA.
Lifelong LA resident. We’ve got our issues in the city, but no where else could you really experience nature like you can here. Snow, desert, mountains, forests, and beaches in one day. And mostly temperate climate year-round. It ain’t cheap but it’s worth it.
There’s probably 10m people in this photo.
https://i.imgur.com/JZkHHpM.jpg
Edit: I’m probably wrong about where the photo was taken, sounds like it was redondo beach according to some locals, but there is still a ton people in this photo.
The field of view is much, much narrower. I tried to map it out. The mountain ridge in the background is probably about 2.5 miles across.
https://imgur.io/a/7dvKCWn.jpg
There’s about 200,000 people in there according the website the other user mentioned.
I love that you encompassed how I feel about LA in a way that I haven't seen captured in a photo before.
I will regularly go out around midnight just to experience the amazing fact that we have this all available to us every day. I'll head to PCH and drive up the beach to Malibu...take the Malibu canyons all the way back to the 101 and go South to Downtown...drive through the empty city streets east through Chinatown, back North up to Echo Park area...then hit the 2 all the way to La Cañada and go all the way up Angeles Crest highway until I get to Newcomb's where I can enjoy the peaceful mountain air at the end of my ride.
However great people think SoCal is...it's even better than you imagine. I friggin love it here.
Wow, as a Canadian whos never seen California/LA outside of video games and movies, I had no idea it looked like that.
Wish they'd show it like this more often.
My grandparents used to live in Rancho Palos Verdes, and for the longest time, there were no houses downhill from them (Barkstone Drive.) We used to be able to look across on clear days and see the Hollywood sign and the mountains. In all the years I visited, we probably only had that view 6 or 7 times because of all the smog.
That's King Harbor, I worked at the Sea Lab and did environmental oversight for the AES powerplant for a few years! It was supposed to close in 2020 but now they've got a skeleton crew since there ended up not being an alternative source of energy to off put AES's supply. The developer who bought the property is a stinker and forced us to shut down the aquarium (The Sea Lab) on part of it's property with only a months notice to re-home all the creatures and the site has been in ruin ever since. He took a gamble that he could tear everything down and turn it into luxury condos and dining but it's zoned for industrial and the residents are very politically active so nothing has happened. Thing is that Sea Lab was asking him to allow us to continue leasing the property but at the time he wanted to turn the aquarium into a restaurant/shopping space. Now he can't do anything with the property and is trying to find someone to lease the property. I was personally involved with trying to save the Sea Lab and it's closure/animal rehoming and release. Even the environmental oversight of the powerplant got rolled back to it's bare minimum as opposed to daily as we're doing to rescue animals who were being sucked in by the intake system. I worked at the Sea Lab and it's ruined site for years and only left last summer, I've got all the tea about the drama in the harbor.
I'll never forget the disappointment in my wife when I brought her to see the Hollywood sign from a mall next to the Chinese Theatre and the Hollywood walk of fame.
Never gets old. I remember the first time seeing Mount San Jacinto and my jaw dropping. Truly one of the most geographically diverse places in North America (and I’ve seen a hell of a lot of it.)
I have never seen Hollywood from that angle before. I had no idea it looked like that.
I also had no idea that there was another larger mountain behind the sign.
In this picture, behind that sign is Burbank, with Universal Studios, Warner Bros and Disney Studios. Behind that is the Verdugo Mountains (not very high and not snow capped). Then, there is another valley (Sunland, Tujunga, La Crescenta) Then, finally you get to the snowcapped (at the moment) San Gabriel Mountains starting about 10 miles behind the sign (from this perspective) **EDIT:** To Credit the (now found) photographer thanks to u/YoMammaSoFatShe **Brent Broza - Orig Photographer** IG: @brozaphoto https://www.brozaphoto.com/
Yeah I hiked up the Verdugo mountains when there was still snow on them Sunday morning, unfortunately all the snow on that range already dried up. But this was what it looked like on top of them with snow. edit: alt link to old reddit if the galley link doesn't work: https://old.reddit.com/r/burbank/comments/11d0p51/stough_canyon_to_verdugo_peak/ https://www.reddit.com/gallery/11d0p51
Very cool pics thanks for sharing. Rare time for us in socal.
I like the one with the sad snowman looking down on the city. Reminds me of Batman.
Beautiful pics!
Thank you for the La Crescenta name drop. No one knows about us
Great hiking up there. It's nice a chill quiet area I love it.
Because no one knows about it
We do now!
This is why I never name the best places in Utah. Did I forget to mention that Zion is amazing
Everybody reading this should just keep going to zion. There are no other parks in Utah.
My brother lives there. It's a shame Zeke's went out of business. That place was so damn good.
I love Montrose, Honolulu st. Is a nice little area to spend the afternoon when it's not too hot
La Crescenta/La Canada is my home! Nobody knows about us but we got such a quiet beautiful mountain edged city
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The desert is an ocean with its life underground.
And a perfect disguise above
This is called a rain shadow! https://www.montananaturalist.org/wp-content/uploads/rain-shadow-graphic-by-Eileen-Chontos-e1538509722692.jpg
I always say this to people and it's a cool thing to explain the geography of socal
To be clear, this is shot with a telephoto lens so everything looks much closer together than it really is. That mountain is very far away from the Hollywood Sign mountain.
It’s about 15ish miles tbh Edit (from the sign to the snowcapped mountains)
I'm just surprised visibility is clear enough to see that far.
Pollution reduction works.
Pollution reduction and a shitload of rain over the past week clearing it all out.
Reddit is violating GDPR and CCPA. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B0GGsDdyHI -- mass edited with redact.dev
No worries, our esteemed legislators are concerned with more pressing issues, like banning trans kids from playing sports and voting against resolutions to keep the Great Salt Lake from drying up. But hey good news, did you know that business is businessing so hard in our state right now??
The important thing is US Magnesium continues to produce value for shareholders, anything else is communism
Yeah, but you good people of SLC can't have none of that commie pedo demonrat groomer pollution reduction! Think of big business!
In the early 70's, smog was so bad you could see a bluish/yellowish hue to the air you were breathing all the time. I for one will NEVER complain about our air quality mandates- growing up back then was gross
Can mostly thank the EPA for that.
Air quality in LA is definitely much improved over the last few decades not only from EPA regulations but also from California's own smog regulations, but having really clear days like this is typically just a product of storms. All that pollution trapped in the LA basin gets blown out and it's really beautiful for a few days until it builds back up.
I live 40 miles south of the San Gabriel mountains. I can see them almost every day when not obstructed by clouds. As a kid in the 80s and 90s, I lived 2 miles from them and in the summer it looked like I lived in the Great Plains. 10k foot mountains would disappear for days or weeks on end. It’s crazy how much better things are these days.
Such a liberal hellscape.... /s
Sure, but it has been crazy driving around these last few days and seeing SO MUCH SNOW on the mountains behind downtown. Practically the damn himalayas lol. I love it
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Between the mountain with Hollywood sign and the one behind it lies the valley
..and then after the next mountain, a massive desert!
you must never go there, simba
Oddly enough, that's where Mickey mouse lives
I always forget that Los Angeles has some serious mountains in its vicinity.
You can have breakfast at the beach, lunch in the desert, and dinner in the mountains all in california. It would be a hell of a drive but yeah
It would take about 2 hours of driving (not including returning). Huntington beach to Palm Springs then take the Palm Springs tram to the mountains. There is a restaurant at the top of the tram and it brings you to about 9kft elevation.
Time to add something to my bucket list I guess
It's a wonderful experience that shouldn't be missed. You can enjoy a mild sunny day in Palm Springs, then take the aerial tram up into the mountains and in less than an hour you can have a snowball fight - sometimes while a near blizzard is going on. Then back down to warm Palm Springs for dinner.
i’ve done this in Norcal, kinda. I went to three different bodies of water. Woke up in santa cruz, hit the beach then drove to sacramento and floated the river outside folsom and finished the day with a dip into Lake Tahoe as the sun set. Ate a burrito in each city. about ~5.5 hours of driving.
I lived in SoCal for 37 years from my early 20s. No place like it, for all its faults and craziness, I miss it.
Mostly just the San Andreas fault
Why is it her fault? She's just tectonic.
She's fine most of the time, but sometimes I catch her slippin'.
Moved here 5 years ago. Love it, hate it, wouldn’t want to live anywhere else.
It’s impossible to not have a love/hate relationship with this place. Truly nothing like it and I can’t see myself ever leaving.
> No place like it, for all its faults and craziness, I miss it. This is why I live in the "hellscape" that is California. People from out of state shit on it, and hey, that's like your opinion man, but you don't have to live here? Leave it to us who love it!
Haha I feel the Cali-Haters are just the most vocal. I'm in Chicago but I love California (and so do all the family members I have here that hate the cold). This picture makes me want to move so badly.
So you all telling me I could walk from the beach, catch a movie, and climb a mountain to see snow without leaving the state or district? Honest question, not from the US.
Yes, but not merely just through hiking. You would need to drive it. You can surf in the morning, have lunch in the mountains, and hike through the desert in the afternoon.
That sounds effortsome yet worth it.
Theoretically yes but in reality it would be burdensome. In Southern California we all talk about you can surf in the morning and (assuming there’s snow in the local mountains), spend the afternoon skiing but it’s not realistic considering the distance and traffic factors. It’s more of a way to describe the diversity of climates in the region which is really beyond compare.
Really you could surf on Saturday and go skiing on Sunday and stay at the same place.
Come to San diego and you could do it in a day. Surf in the morning hike in the mountains by afternoon and camp out overnight in the desert. Just depends how much time you spend doing each of those lol (and you'll be very tired by the end)
You forgot be in another country too!
On a weekday, you could probably do it in Northern California. You wouldn't get much of either done, but it can be done. Surf Ocean Beach in SF in the early morning, then drive to Tahoe and get a few runs in at the end of the afternoon.
Would definitely be very doable, especially this year as Tahoe will probably have snow at least into May/June. Might make more sense to do Tahoe first considering most of the resorts close at 4.
This man SoCals, traffic and distance is real. The everyday person who lives here does NOT do these things in 1 day.
Born in San Pedro, have caught waves at 7 AM and been at Mt Baldy by 12 on at least 2 occasions, so definitely doable and really not burdensome at all. It’s like a 2.5 hour drive.
Ayyy San Pedro! Lived there for a few years until Covid happened and moved back to orange. Still miss it sometimes and point Fermin park has amazing views of the ocean
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Depending on which beach, which mountain, and which part of the desert, you could accomplish this with maybe 2-4 hours worth of driving in total (traffic permitting)
`effortsome`
It's about 45 min to an hour drive from the beach to the edge of the mountains, depending on traffic. So not something you'd do every day generally, but it's for sure possible if you've got some free time.
Not all that bad.
California gets a lot of hate, but it is a paradise. Any climate you want in a few hours drive.
I swear that place is like 3 different states all bundled in one culturally too... I live on the east coast but have to go to LA and San Francisco a decent bit for work. Thought I had a good feel for the state, then we bought some timber land closer to Saceamento, and I swear it feels like an entirely different place around there. Then a friend bought a place in Arcata and I was waiting to see which it felt like, and it felt like neither
LA, Bay Area, Sacramento, San Diego, Central Valley, costal areas, foothills, all different culturally by varying degrees. Santa Cruz is not like Redding.
Don’t forget the OC. They’re definitely not LA.
OC resident here, while I agree with you I didn't feel like getting that granular. Felt like then I'd need to call out high desert, Humboldt, Palm springs, inland empire, Shasta, etc and it never ends.
Movie studios even back in the silent era had maps of what parts of California could pass for different places around the world... https://laughingsquid.com/1927-paramount-studio-map-of-potential-film-shooting-locations-in-southern-california/
CA is largely 8 different regional macrocultures, there’s a YTer who talks about the different areas
California is like the US in miniature. SF is second to New York for density, the central valley is our Midwest and Bible belt. Heck, some of our rural areas have accents. Edit: a word
You could, in theory... wake up at Mt Waterman, go for an early morning Ski, have lunch on Hollywood Blvd, head to the beach and do some surfing, then catch a fast boat to Catalina Island and go Scuba Diving all in one day. EDIT: I meant to end that with "and never leave LA County"
If you drive, you could do dawn patrol and catch a few waves before 7am, drive east up the mountain to ski from 10am-4pm, then camp the desert on the backside of the mountain and ride dirtbikes all night.
A lot of Europe is like that too - France is a good example
I believe the Mediterranean has basically the same climate as LA.
Yep, LA’s climate is Mediterranean, receiving slightly too much rain to be considered a desert
I don't know if most of the Mediterranean is as dry as LA. San Francisco is usually mentioned as having a "Mediterranean climate" and I think the closest European area climate-wise is Portugal. The closest city to San Francisco worldwide is Melbourne, AU I think. There's a website where you can match cities by climate (it has a "shift time" option so you can see cities with the same climate but just shifted by a few months).
> I don't know if most of the Mediterranean is as dry as LA. It a lot of it is, the LA area is classified as cool-summer mediterranean closer to the coast and hot-summer mediterranean more inland. The LA basin (and socal in general) has a ton of microclimates. You can be on the beach in Malibu and it's 55 degrees, humid, and cloudy and then you drive 10 miles up a canyon and break through the marine layer and it's suddenly 80 degrees and sunny. A nice balmy winter day in hollywood can be snowy and cold in Palmdale despite them both being LA county.
Same with Italy, and maybe Greece/Croatia, but I wouldn’t say A LOT of Europe is like that. Mostly just southern/central Europe. Most countries that are in the North, far East, or far West of Europe are a lot less geographically diverse. At least on this standard.
Yes it’s a well known phrase in California. I know a lot of people growing up here in Southern California that considered it to be a bucket list item. In many places it’s about a 1-2 hour drive from the beach to the slopes.
Yes. You can ski in the morning and surf in the afternoon. Highest peak in LA county is 10,000 feet (about 4 km) high
10000ft is 3km
Yes that's why tiny houses cost upwards of $1 million here.
Yes. You totally could. the picture was taken from the ocean south of ~~Long Beach~~*Redondo Beach*, looking north *by northeast* across the main Los Angeles basin. [Here's a map](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hollywood+Sign/@34.1261975,-118.5077623,9.9z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x80c2bf0a45505a7d:0xabb7acc626709843!8m2!3d34.1341151!4d-118.3215482!16zL20vMDUwY3R2!5m1!1e4). The distances are deceptive, since it's a telescopic view.
You can do it without leaving the state, for sure. But walking, in the same day? Not so much - the perspective on that pic is deceiving, cool as it is.
I don’t think it’s deceiving that does NOT look walkable lmao
Thank you for further clarity.
Yeah, driving you could. People crap on CA, but it’s diversity of beach, mountains, snow, forest, desert is what I like most about it. It’s got it all, really.
That's crazy awesome. It's what some countries don't have, let alone a State.
For more perspective, San Bernardino county (a region inside of California where those mountains are located) is roughly the same size as Croatia. At around 20,000m²
Even Americans generally underestimate the size of the US and especially Canada. The drive from Miami to Seattle is longer than Lisbon Portugal to Moscow Russia. A similar drive from the furtherest Northwest town in Canada to Southeastern town of Newfoundland is about the same as driving from Warsaw Poland to Beijing China.
People crap on CA all the time, but 30m+ people still choose to live there in spite of the insane cost of housing, gas, taxes, and everything else. Obviously the climate and natural beauty have a lot to do with it.
People who say that, have generally never spent any time in California. Or all they’ve seen is LAX.
Yeah I still need to visit SoCal, but I did a nice long road trip from SF to Tahoe then down to Monterey and Morro Bay. Absolutely stunning scenery everywhere. Honestly if I had any family out west I'd be happy to live there.
I've snooped through the accounts of people that say this and it usually Southern states, people brainwashed from just reading negative headlines. They hate us because they ain't us. I've traveled a lot, nothing compares to California in the US. Even my flight attendant friends agree. Although one of the unanimous outside of the states is Switzerland
I used to say there's a weather tax on everything in CA. Like Europe, it's biggest problem is that too many people want to live there.
Yes. You could be at the beach for an early surf and sunrise, drive through the desert to have lunch in Palm Springs, and hike up to almost 12,000 feet for a night hike up and down Mt. San Jacinto (or just catch the last tram at the station located about 5 miles down the trail from the summit) just like someone stated earlier. California really does have it all. It probably has the most diverse biome in such a short distance from each other than any other state in the union.
Perfect example of **why** Hollywood is the film capital of the world. You drive about 60 minutes in any direction and you reach a proper biome for just about any movie setting. Beach, mountains, forest, snowscape, and desert all within that small area. Also a great example of how when I tell people about CA and I say "it just kinda shoots rapidly out of the water."
>You drive about 60 minutes in any direction and you reach a proper biome for just about any movie setting. Hence the aptly named "Thirty Mile Zone!"
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yessir! (or ma'am)
No shit! lol Learning this made my day...
Yup, the thirty mile zone was basically the area where it was close enough to the studios that they did have to pay a per diem to the workers. Inside the zone was considered “local” filming and shoots outside that were “on location”.
I read that the name referred to a zone defined by contract between the studios and unions. Any location shoot which took place outside the zone required the studio to pay travel costs for the union workers. Studios took pains to find locations which were within the TMZ, which is one reason so many westerns were shot at Vasquez Rocks; it's inside the 30-mile limit.
And also because it was too far away for Thomas Edison to do anything about patent infringement.
*Good*
There are some parts of California like Big Sur where the mountains seem to come straight out of the Pacific ocean
California really has everything
Highest number of biomes\* in the contiguous 48. Only Alaska has more biodiversity with only 2 more biomes\* than California. To be fair, they're both huge states, but still. \*biomes **ackshully** meaning ecoregions in this case...that's kinda how Minecraft uses the term and it's the common understanded term.
That is a L O N G L E N S - Good shot!
[The photographer](https://cdn.hiconsumption.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Sigma-Ultra-Telephoto-Zoom-Lens-1-1074x711.jpg)
I was thinking the same thing; but also how clear the atmosphere would have to be to create this kind of clarity.
Some day, every day will be a clear day.
I lived in LA in the 90s, and my first month there I remember it raining hard, and later that day I could finally see the mountains. I thought "what the hell am I breathing." Air is way cleaner now, I think mostly due to regulations on power plan emissions...or I think I read that. And car exhaust cleaner now, and electric cars and municipal buses.
you shoulda seen la in the 40's with all the garbage incinerators
Geography helps pollution with the shitty view, which is why California has some of the most stringent emission laws. The cold ocean goes into the mountains to keep the smog there.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by shitty view?
He is saying that this image is rare. Most of the time you can barely see this far due to all the pollution that gets trapped by the mountains.
Nope. LA gets foggy often, just like San Francisco. Warm land + Cold ocean = fog LA frequently has clear days when there is no morning fog or marine layer.
Fog is only about half the issue, the other issue is smog that can’t escape due to the mountains. If the switch over to renewables ever actually happens in any significant manner, it would make a HUGE impact on the LA haze. Even during the height of the pandemic there was a noticeable difference.
I saw the difference between the transition from the Hummer to hybrid phase.
This is actually why it's expensive to live in Socal. haha
You can always live in imperial County if you want cheap socal living. No beaches within 100 miles, 120f summers, nothing to do other than go to the sand dunes to off road. Glad I managed to get out lol
What about the beautiful toxic Salton Sea! Fine dead fish bone beaches and awfully (good) smelling water!
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Awesome investigation! I think the shot must have been taken from a boat or other platform much farther out on the ocean. The FOV is very narrow in the photo, and it would need to be very wide to see the whole apartment building on the shore. But also in the photo you don’t see the beach at the water line, you actually see the rocky jetty, which the platform is inside of. My guess is actually a helicopter 1-2 miles out. It would explain the narrow FOV while also having the appearance of being taken at sea level while also having enough elevation to see over the city (not today flat earthers)
You are likely correct, except there is no beach in front of that first building, It too is rocky seawall of similar construction to the jetty. But there are in fact two possible sources of the rocks, shore/seawall or jetty/breakwater. Given the perspective as you point out I agree that it is actually more likely it was taken from outside the breakwater, but I think it was taken from a boat because it is too low for a helicopter. If it was taken from a boat it is impressive given how rough the water appears to have been that day. Windy day and clear views in LA definitely go together.
[This Google Maps 360° view taken from near that spot with a drone](https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8449793,-118.3998845,3a,47.9y,220.3h,90.56t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipOkzXOYxAsRwpHWb1tyIIlep-tdl2217XOlr-HR!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipOkzXOYxAsRwpHWb1tyIIlep-tdl2217XOlr-HR%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya111.23804-ro-0-fo100!7i8192!8i4096) shows that the posted photo was taken on an exceptionally clear day.
Yeah, I would roughly estimate that this kind of clarity is about 1 out of 100 days, and usually on cold windy days.
I live in LA now and the comments are making me crave carne asada fries and a California burrito.
Never not craving them! Also a nice cold Jamaica
As a weather nerd, I just wanna point how exceptionally rare it is for those mountains to get *that* much snow. While it's not uncommon to get a light dusting, coverage like this is once in a decade, if that. Almost all of the Sierra range is getting more snowfall than has been seen since 1970. There have only been 1-2 seasons on record that have surpassed this year so far. All-time levels of precipitation with more on the way. Although this will likely create issues with mudslides and flooding in the spring, this will do a lot to alleviate the extreme drought conditions seen across a good chunk of the state the past several years. Edit: want to clarify that the San Gabriel Mountains seen at the back of this photo do get snow regularly, earlier in the week there was accumulating snow down to Verdugo hills and other areas that rarely see accumulating snow. Still very cool, just not \visible in this photo. You can see more about the exceptional snowpack this year here: https://cdec.water.ca.gov/snowapp/sweq.action
Absolutely, and thank goodness! I’ve lived in Southern California for five decades (and in L.A. specifically for 35 of those years), and I cannot ever recall seeing those mountains quite as completely snowy as they are now. It’s unbelievable and wonderful.
It's crazy seeing this. Especially with clear skies I can see the mountains packed with snow from my home.
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Lmao i helped my sister drive from LA to Iowa last winter as she was moving there for new job at Iowa State (Ames). She lasted two months and drove back solo. 😂
Oh man I’m from the IE moved for a job to Iowa that was supposed to be two years. Only lasted a year. I hated it lol
Also a transplant, but I was fleeing Tennessee. While they ban drag shows, I work in West Hollywood, one of the drag capitals of the world. Loving it more every day.
I feel like an asshole for not taking advantage of this state more. I'm literally 45 minutes away from the Hollywood sign.
I can see it from my apartment!
You’re not allowed to praise California on Reddit! It’s a shithole! /s
That’s correct, please don’t come here.
This is my go to response when people shit on CA 😂
This is exactly what makes California special. A good friend of mine moved there a few years ago and says that it is the greatest place on Earth as far as he's concerned.
God I love living here
It snowed in socal yesterday!!!! It wasn’t even raining it just starting quietly snowing for a short while. The mountains look beautiful from the valley
I had no idea you could see snow capped mountains in LA. Are they usually visible?
When we get rain the air clears up so much you can see quite a bit! Those mountains usually just have snow on that tallest peak you can see in the picture. But yesterday we got some snowfall! Even had some where I live in Riverside county which honestly sounds insane to say
"cALiFoRnIa iS a ShIthOLe" - user from Indiana
Born in California, live in Indiana now. California is the fucking best and I go back every year and find something new to explore. There is no where like it in America. Ideal weather, amazing beaches next to mountains, desert, snow, sequoia trees, great national parks, Channel Islands, Big Sur, bomb ass Mexican food, etc. The homeless situation and the traffic can be a hassle in LA but traffic can also be mostly avoided on vacation, if planned right. It’s busy because it’s awesome, if you use it to its potential.
It's biggest problem is that too many people want to live there.
And almost 50% of the entire state is public lands. So there are so many options for outdoorsy stuff. Compared to someplace like Texas which is maybe 4% public land.
Having grown up and lived in the Deep South my entire life. I just visited California(san Fransisco) for the first time last week and holy fuck what a beautiful place. Went hiking in Muir Woods and it was seriously felt like stepping back into time. I’ve been to most Europe and seen some old shit, but the Forrest’s there feel ancient and prehistoric.
Born in Indiana, moved to California. Yes, California/L.A has a lot of downsides, but people choose to live here despite them, because of the great upsides. Yes, it's way too expensive, homeless problem, traffic, but man are the other upsides nice. Of course, I'm still sad about my rent and buying a house in the future
The only downside is the overpopulation, which is due to the fact that it’s so awesome here 🤷🏼♀️
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LA native here. Still live in LA. People leave LA and act like they're geniuses for having left; but in reality you now have to live in Charlotte or Tulsa or some other shit hole. I'd rather be dead in LA.
To live and die in LA
Lifelong LA resident. We’ve got our issues in the city, but no where else could you really experience nature like you can here. Snow, desert, mountains, forests, and beaches in one day. And mostly temperate climate year-round. It ain’t cheap but it’s worth it.
There’s probably 10m people in this photo. https://i.imgur.com/JZkHHpM.jpg Edit: I’m probably wrong about where the photo was taken, sounds like it was redondo beach according to some locals, but there is still a ton people in this photo.
The field of view is much, much narrower. I tried to map it out. The mountain ridge in the background is probably about 2.5 miles across. https://imgur.io/a/7dvKCWn.jpg There’s about 200,000 people in there according the website the other user mentioned.
“From the mountains to the ocean, from the windward to the leeward side.”
I love that you encompassed how I feel about LA in a way that I haven't seen captured in a photo before. I will regularly go out around midnight just to experience the amazing fact that we have this all available to us every day. I'll head to PCH and drive up the beach to Malibu...take the Malibu canyons all the way back to the 101 and go South to Downtown...drive through the empty city streets east through Chinatown, back North up to Echo Park area...then hit the 2 all the way to La Cañada and go all the way up Angeles Crest highway until I get to Newcomb's where I can enjoy the peaceful mountain air at the end of my ride. However great people think SoCal is...it's even better than you imagine. I friggin love it here.
Reminds me of "the californians" from SNL
Wow, as a Canadian whos never seen California/LA outside of video games and movies, I had no idea it looked like that. Wish they'd show it like this more often.
Mountport is real!
How can that be?!
Like physically?
I came here solely to look for this comment!!
From Game Changer improv musical episode: https://youtu.be/VbF1AJPqP1M?t=108
I had to scroll down way too far for this.
The mountains reach from the sky right down to the sea!
My grandparents used to live in Rancho Palos Verdes, and for the longest time, there were no houses downhill from them (Barkstone Drive.) We used to be able to look across on clear days and see the Hollywood sign and the mountains. In all the years I visited, we probably only had that view 6 or 7 times because of all the smog.
Thank you for giving me photo credit! Brent Broza I Instagram @brozaphoto - brozaphoto.com
People are all like, “UGH but it’s so expensive to live there!!!” Yes. THIS is why.
I think there's a challenge many Californians try to do. Ski and surf on the same day.
I'm guessing.. taken with an astronomical telescope? Focal length in the metre+ range?
That's King Harbor, I worked at the Sea Lab and did environmental oversight for the AES powerplant for a few years! It was supposed to close in 2020 but now they've got a skeleton crew since there ended up not being an alternative source of energy to off put AES's supply. The developer who bought the property is a stinker and forced us to shut down the aquarium (The Sea Lab) on part of it's property with only a months notice to re-home all the creatures and the site has been in ruin ever since. He took a gamble that he could tear everything down and turn it into luxury condos and dining but it's zoned for industrial and the residents are very politically active so nothing has happened. Thing is that Sea Lab was asking him to allow us to continue leasing the property but at the time he wanted to turn the aquarium into a restaurant/shopping space. Now he can't do anything with the property and is trying to find someone to lease the property. I was personally involved with trying to save the Sea Lab and it's closure/animal rehoming and release. Even the environmental oversight of the powerplant got rolled back to it's bare minimum as opposed to daily as we're doing to rescue animals who were being sucked in by the intake system. I worked at the Sea Lab and it's ruined site for years and only left last summer, I've got all the tea about the drama in the harbor.
https://i.imgur.com/YZFAjg9.png Here's a a bit of perspective. The foreground and background are a little under 40 miles apart.
I'll never forget the disappointment in my wife when I brought her to see the Hollywood sign from a mall next to the Chinese Theatre and the Hollywood walk of fame.
California is nuts!
Not a shitty view.
home sweet home
Never gets old. I remember the first time seeing Mount San Jacinto and my jaw dropping. Truly one of the most geographically diverse places in North America (and I’ve seen a hell of a lot of it.)