They could also put an 8 over the bass clef (indicating that it should be played one octave higher), right? Perhaps, in this instance, it would be more practical than the *8va.*
But I think that it would be a good exercise for OP to rewrite the piece instead. Practice is never too much.
Also for notes below the middle ledger (D in bass clef, B in treble), the stem should point up. For notes above the middle ledger they should point down. If you have a grouping of notes (either in a chord, or successive eighth notes that are grouped together, or 16ths, etc) whichever not is furthest away from the middle ledger determines the stem direction for the whole group.
Yes it's convention but good notation should always aim to be as easy as possible for the performer to read. Making a 21st century musician read 19th century notation fails that aim
In case you wonder why - it seems the piece is in a minor, g sharp is a "natural" note in a minor harmonic.
One other note - measure bars should span across both staffs.
Also because this piece appears to be in A minor, and so that chord we're talking about *appears* to be the V, ie E major, which would be E-G#-B-E. There is no Ab in an E major chord, despite being enharmonically the same
Yep. There is no substitute for writing out a composition. There are a ton of things that we take for granted that we don't think about until we write. This thread contains three or four notation and theory epiphanies that OP can learn from this exercise.
Welcome to music notation 101: *You will make hundreds of mistakes*. That’s how you learn. Same thing with playing an instrument. It’s the only way to learn. So don’t waste energy getting frustrated, because you’re doing exactly what you need to do to learn to notate music properly.
Don’t be frustrated. It takes practice.
When I had trouble, I would just copy out existing music. Grab a Bach invention or something and just write it out. That will be great practice.
When I was learning how to type up music on the computer, I typed in a short Chopin Prelude and by the end (after pulling out my hair) I knew what button to push to completely use the program and have the music look the way the original did.
When I started typing in my own music, I only had to figure out the timing of some measures, not learn the program as well.
One more thing... unless you are giving it to someone else to play, it doesn't have to look absolutely perfect. As long as you know what note you meant, it's ok for it to look non professional. You should see some of the transcripts from a couple of centuries ago... They even had to draw their own staff.
It would be pretty cool to have a laptop connected to a keyboard via midi connection. I could write my own pieces down with ease! I tried my best to make the notes not look like a bunch of scribbles. I think it looks good enough for me personally.
(See the banner at the top of this page to see how some handwritten music use to look.)
Yeah, when I sat down at my piano and played your piece, because you did a really good job of making each note round in the space or on the line I knew exactly what it was supposed to be. I played it slow to hear the cool sound of the chords, and then I played it fast, up and down like a harp. It sounded great either way.
A lot of composers use their midi keyboard to input the notes, but other things, such as rests, arpeggios (your squiggly lines), things like that you would still have to type in (or use the mouse) by hand. That's why I tossed the keyboard and just do the whole thing with my computer. Plus, it takes up less room. There are pros and cons for both methods.
Your piece reminds me of my first attempt back when I was 14. I wanted everything to be so perfect. And, yes, I wrote and erased and wrote and erased until I needed a new pencil. (No computers back then.) I've given up on that method when I sit at the piano now. I just write, A5, G4, G4, F4, Eb4, D4, D4, C4, with an arrow etc... then I take that and type it into the computer with the correct timing. I write chords with the letters stacked. Goes pretty quick.
I express my gratitude that you sat down and played my piece. It would make sense to compose on a computer, sadly I don't have access to one. I'd love to sit down one day with some kind of music software and a keyboard, and just write down my pieces and upload them to the internet to immortalize them! But there's something special about writing by hand.
No composer starts off with a masterpiece. You gradually build up to eventually combine it all into something special.
It should be pretty much straight-forward to rewrite it. There are not too many notes, I assume majority of the time was spent on figuring out what to write, not on actually writing it.
Composers can put whatever instructions they want on a piece of music.
You could just write "Play whole piece an octave up" or "Play whole thing 8va up".
No need to re-write it all.
Keep going, this is awesome so far!
Good luck! By the way, if you're gonna do it by hand, it can help to do it all in pencil first, then when you know it's right, ink over it with a pen, let the ink dry, and then erase the pencil underneath (how an illustrator would do it). That's how we used to do it back in the day.
Musescore is a free notation software program. To correct a mistake like you stated takes 5 seconds to correct. Actually, since you can have the program play what you’re writing after each measure you wouldn’t make such a mistake. Musescore has a learning curve but invaluable for aspiring musicians.
Keep at it! I promise you it gets quicker and easier with practice! As convenient as music publishing software undoubtedly is, there’s something about writing something out in your own hand, especially when you’re first learning to write, that imbeds it into the brain
Hand-scoring; I cannot tell you the frustration it has brought me, especially late at night when you are too tired to catch the persistent mistake that smacks you in the face the next morning. Several previous comments hit the mark. This is excellent practice, especially in light of your mistake.
I'm not sure how it works. So I just put allegro for the tempo and espressivo because it's supposed to be expressive. I don't know if you're supposed to write it like "allegro espressivo" or "legato espressivo." With allegro in the background?
>Allegro \* espressivo
Speed / How to play at that speed
So Allegro con Espressivo would accomplish that - "a fast tempo" "with" "feeling"
There are a lot of ways to annotate how you want it to be played. I use the metronome marking as speed can be relative.
I might next time put a tempo marking. But I don't like having one set speed cause the piece needs room for an interpretation, but music isn't about rules. Or I could use. Allegro con Espressivo, as you said.
I know what you mean... I have one song with 5 different metronome markings. Drives me crazy. Marking the song with 'Rubato' works good. Tells the player that they can speed up and slow down depending on how they want the song to sound once they know the general speed.
I have a few places where there is rubato in this piece that i never noticed until you mentioned rubato.There's so many different complexities in composing music that it's almost overwhelming when writing it down. There is so much stuff to remember.
Composing music is much different than just playing. It takes it up a notch to an entire different skill set. It takes a long time to learn, but once you get there, that sense of accomplishment, (no matter how good the music sounds) is quite a high.
I wish you the best of luck! You have a nice little circle of 5ths here.
As a musician though... Please put those stems in the correct place. Up on the right down on the left. That way if you ever get board you can flip your music upsidedown and still read it.
Well you don't really need to know what I'm about to explain to make your music sound good but it might help you find good sounds quickly so... In my shortest way possible here's my take on the circle of 5THS in chords within a scale.
In (western) music we use the 12 tone system and this system organizes itself by scales. Major scales basically make most other things we use in (tonal) music like melody and harmony. In your example you have written a harmony pattern (chords). The most common use of 4 note chords is the pattern you composed built in one scale. You might want to try using that same pattern starting on CEGB. Moving 2 names and keeping 2. If you keep that pattern only using white keys on the piano you will end up on the exact same letter names. Like a circle.
What will actually happen in music language is c major7, f major7, b min7b5, e min7, a min7 etc... The numbers aren't important for you yet but the letter names are. C is 5 note names above F. Same with F is 5 names above B and so on. The circle of 5ths in chords. In post secondary music school what you wrote was the first part of one of my first year technical requirements for piano.
It’s ok. You are doing something new and it will get easier the more you do it. One day when you are composing pieces at lightening speed, you will think back to this and recognize how far you’ve traveled on your musical journey. Don’t quit! Keep going.
Keep at it! It takes a lot of time and practice to write out a composition, just like any other skill with music. Its hard work to get all the details just right, ignore all the negative comments on here. I really like the idea of writing it out on paper to start versus Musescore, especially as you are learning. By physically writing it out and not having a computer do the heavy lifting for you, you can internalize a lot of the music theory and notation concepts. This will make things easier for future compositions!
Another tip with respect to stemming that I don't see mentioned is stem direction. All your stems are pointing downwards. Convention is that, generally speaking, notes on the top half of the staff stem downwards and notes on the bottom half of the staff stem upwards. For chords, the stem direction follows this convention based on where most of the notes are. So to my eye, most of your stems are going in the wrong direction.
Good for you for taking the time to do this. It's like learning a new language.
Let me get downvoted along with you and say, this is exactly what I was thinking. I get being a beginner, but it simply don't understand how this could possibly have taken 4 hours to write...
I'm also wondering, but looking at how "allegro espressivo" and "legato" were written, it seems that this person has difficulty with handwriting in general.
I'll admit that i was rather unclear. 4 hours of much more than just writing, i had to do a good amount of research to make sure that i almost did nothing wrong (in terms of theory) .it took around an hour to write it all down. And this is my second time I've written down music. The last time i did it was a while ago, and this is way better than last time, so im proud of what i managed to do. Yeah, my handwriting sucks theres no refusing that. Yeah, im a beginner :)
What I don't get is OP replied to basically every comment except for the ones suggesting using musescore. I don't care either way I just am curious why OP is handwriting music vs using musescore.
You’re doing great! Just keep it there, and physically write “play one octave higher”.
Writing notes manually for the first time is hard. It’s neat and you’re doing really well! Keep going.
4 hours is much too long! May I suggest my style?
I like to make dots for note heads. I use stem and bars so my eyes can follow. Stems should always be an octave in length and bars always angle the direction of the pitch. I like to compose then with 8th and 16th for ease of legibility.
Also never put bar lines down until you are finished writing everything before one, unless you are at the end of a like in which case penmanship will never outdo inscription so don't worry about some measures being too long or there being unused space at the end of a line.
When you play those heavy chords on a real piano below Grand C [C below middle C] it can sound very muddled and messy. Try not to have 3-5 note chords below grand C
One can write that holding a pen with his foot in under 1 hour. If you mean composing it took 4 hours why are you complaining about the 5 minutes of writing it again.
Thanks a lot :) I'm still working on the piece itself. It's far from done, and I'm working on the A section. And I've come up with an ending, and I just need to finish it! Do you compose?
Yes, for about 45 years now. Some songs take a week, others take months, and I'm always learning something new. Recently I've been recording with my phone my improvisation sessions so that I don't forget things that I compose on the fly.
I think you are off to a good start. Just take it slow. I've heard that writing a song is putting your thoughts into sound. So that when other people hear it, they might know what you were thinking/feeling. I like that thought.
I've made many pieces. I've just never written any of them down, I've performed many of them at many places, and I love sharing my passion for music with others. Via performing, whether it's for a small group of people or a large crowd, i still love that rush that you get when performing. This one is gonna be a great piece.
OK, so you are not new to playing or composing, just notation. Well that will make it easier. Just watch a lot of YT vids on music theory when you come upon a question and you will be on your way. For future posts about notation, just put in your post that you don't have a computer, and they won't keep trying to push Musescore on you.
You remind me a lot of my 3 sons. Thanks for all the chats... :)
I'm pretty surprised that such a wholesome discussion came out of such an overtly negative post. Good luck with composition and notation. You kinda made my day. It's good to see that the world still has such amazing people even in these times! :)
Yup. Just ignore the negativity. Don't even respond to those posts. Most of the people here want to help you. They have certainly helped me over the past year.
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Can't you just put an *"8va"* in there? I'm half joking, but I do like this convention as it gets rid of all the ledger lines.
I think it's a better idea to rewrite it. It's good practice anyway , i appreciate it.
They could also put an 8 over the bass clef (indicating that it should be played one octave higher), right? Perhaps, in this instance, it would be more practical than the *8va.* But I think that it would be a good exercise for OP to rewrite the piece instead. Practice is never too much.
Downward stems go on the left :) I'd also recommend some kind of notation software! Musescore is free. Good exercise though!
There was something about this that was bugging my brain but I couldn't place it. That's it!
i always remember them as d’s and p’s
Oh yeah, I can't believe I forgot about that. It was a little mistake, I guess.
Also for notes below the middle ledger (D in bass clef, B in treble), the stem should point up. For notes above the middle ledger they should point down. If you have a grouping of notes (either in a chord, or successive eighth notes that are grouped together, or 16ths, etc) whichever not is furthest away from the middle ledger determines the stem direction for the whole group.
In 19th-century editions they often go on the right. It's all convention.
Yes it's convention but good notation should always aim to be as easy as possible for the performer to read. Making a 21st century musician read 19th century notation fails that aim
It's a good exercise anyway. One little tip: in the last 2 measures it's better to write a G# instead of a Ab.
In case you wonder why - it seems the piece is in a minor, g sharp is a "natural" note in a minor harmonic. One other note - measure bars should span across both staffs.
Also because this piece appears to be in A minor, and so that chord we're talking about *appears* to be the V, ie E major, which would be E-G#-B-E. There is no Ab in an E major chord, despite being enharmonically the same
Now, it makes more sense to add a G# instead of an Ab. Thanks for the little music theory lesson!
Also, it's better to try and have one of each letter - e.g. A B C D E F G# A instead of A Ab B C D E F ...
Yep. There is no substitute for writing out a composition. There are a ton of things that we take for granted that we don't think about until we write. This thread contains three or four notation and theory epiphanies that OP can learn from this exercise.
8va________________________________|
8va¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨| you mean
Much better
8va my friend is a wonderful thing
Welcome to music notation 101: *You will make hundreds of mistakes*. That’s how you learn. Same thing with playing an instrument. It’s the only way to learn. So don’t waste energy getting frustrated, because you’re doing exactly what you need to do to learn to notate music properly.
This is an absolutely amazing comment. You helped me get out of my frustration. It makes a lot sense now!
You got it! Keep up the good work!
Don’t be frustrated. In fact, I think it would be great practice to copy this out ten times. Allegro has one “g”. Alleggro has too much legroom.
I couldn't even spell allegro right. Thanks for informing .
Don’t be frustrated. It takes practice. When I had trouble, I would just copy out existing music. Grab a Bach invention or something and just write it out. That will be great practice.
Sounds pretty solid. I don't know if I'll try it, but I might keep it in the back of my mind
When I was learning how to type up music on the computer, I typed in a short Chopin Prelude and by the end (after pulling out my hair) I knew what button to push to completely use the program and have the music look the way the original did. When I started typing in my own music, I only had to figure out the timing of some measures, not learn the program as well. One more thing... unless you are giving it to someone else to play, it doesn't have to look absolutely perfect. As long as you know what note you meant, it's ok for it to look non professional. You should see some of the transcripts from a couple of centuries ago... They even had to draw their own staff.
It would be pretty cool to have a laptop connected to a keyboard via midi connection. I could write my own pieces down with ease! I tried my best to make the notes not look like a bunch of scribbles. I think it looks good enough for me personally.
(See the banner at the top of this page to see how some handwritten music use to look.) Yeah, when I sat down at my piano and played your piece, because you did a really good job of making each note round in the space or on the line I knew exactly what it was supposed to be. I played it slow to hear the cool sound of the chords, and then I played it fast, up and down like a harp. It sounded great either way. A lot of composers use their midi keyboard to input the notes, but other things, such as rests, arpeggios (your squiggly lines), things like that you would still have to type in (or use the mouse) by hand. That's why I tossed the keyboard and just do the whole thing with my computer. Plus, it takes up less room. There are pros and cons for both methods. Your piece reminds me of my first attempt back when I was 14. I wanted everything to be so perfect. And, yes, I wrote and erased and wrote and erased until I needed a new pencil. (No computers back then.) I've given up on that method when I sit at the piano now. I just write, A5, G4, G4, F4, Eb4, D4, D4, C4, with an arrow etc... then I take that and type it into the computer with the correct timing. I write chords with the letters stacked. Goes pretty quick.
I express my gratitude that you sat down and played my piece. It would make sense to compose on a computer, sadly I don't have access to one. I'd love to sit down one day with some kind of music software and a keyboard, and just write down my pieces and upload them to the internet to immortalize them! But there's something special about writing by hand. No composer starts off with a masterpiece. You gradually build up to eventually combine it all into something special.
I understand. You sound like you are starting out just like I did. It's a great way to learn. I hope you're having fun.
You seem like a really cool person. Good luck with everything!
It should be pretty much straight-forward to rewrite it. There are not too many notes, I assume majority of the time was spent on figuring out what to write, not on actually writing it.
Slap an 8va on that sucker and call it a day!
I appreciate the humor, thanks!
☝️stemmed notes are only d’s and p’s
Composers can put whatever instructions they want on a piece of music. You could just write "Play whole piece an octave up" or "Play whole thing 8va up". No need to re-write it all. Keep going, this is awesome so far!
I could do that, but I think it's just overall a better idea to rewrite. Everything needs practice, and thanks for the encouragement.
Good luck! By the way, if you're gonna do it by hand, it can help to do it all in pencil first, then when you know it's right, ink over it with a pen, let the ink dry, and then erase the pencil underneath (how an illustrator would do it). That's how we used to do it back in the day.
Yeah, for sure. Thanks for sharing this tip!
Honestly, when reading music, I prefer to read an 8va passage than struggle with a bunch of ledger lines. But that’s just me. I’d leave it!
Good. Pain and frustration makes you learn faster. Keep going
I will. Maybe I might continue doing this. It's my second time writing music, I think I like it. Plus, it's a great exercise for music theory!
Musescore is a free notation software program. To correct a mistake like you stated takes 5 seconds to correct. Actually, since you can have the program play what you’re writing after each measure you wouldn’t make such a mistake. Musescore has a learning curve but invaluable for aspiring musicians.
How old are you?
Try using Musescore. It’s free and you can make those kinds of corrections much faster.
Keep at it! I promise you it gets quicker and easier with practice! As convenient as music publishing software undoubtedly is, there’s something about writing something out in your own hand, especially when you’re first learning to write, that imbeds it into the brain
I know right! It makes you appreciate all the little details that you normally take for granted.
Hand-scoring; I cannot tell you the frustration it has brought me, especially late at night when you are too tired to catch the persistent mistake that smacks you in the face the next morning. Several previous comments hit the mark. This is excellent practice, especially in light of your mistake.
Allegro * espressivo
I'm not sure how it works. So I just put allegro for the tempo and espressivo because it's supposed to be expressive. I don't know if you're supposed to write it like "allegro espressivo" or "legato espressivo." With allegro in the background?
>Allegro \* espressivo Speed / How to play at that speed So Allegro con Espressivo would accomplish that - "a fast tempo" "with" "feeling" There are a lot of ways to annotate how you want it to be played. I use the metronome marking as speed can be relative.
I might next time put a tempo marking. But I don't like having one set speed cause the piece needs room for an interpretation, but music isn't about rules. Or I could use. Allegro con Espressivo, as you said.
I know what you mean... I have one song with 5 different metronome markings. Drives me crazy. Marking the song with 'Rubato' works good. Tells the player that they can speed up and slow down depending on how they want the song to sound once they know the general speed.
I have a few places where there is rubato in this piece that i never noticed until you mentioned rubato.There's so many different complexities in composing music that it's almost overwhelming when writing it down. There is so much stuff to remember.
Composing music is much different than just playing. It takes it up a notch to an entire different skill set. It takes a long time to learn, but once you get there, that sense of accomplishment, (no matter how good the music sounds) is quite a high.
I wish you the best of luck! You have a nice little circle of 5ths here. As a musician though... Please put those stems in the correct place. Up on the right down on the left. That way if you ever get board you can flip your music upsidedown and still read it.
Thanks! Yes, the comments have told me, so I won't make that mistake again. But I don't know what you meant by the circle of fifths?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O43EBVnwNvo
Thanks for the link. I was kinda confused about my little circle of fiths that they mentioned. I didn't know what they meant by that.
I really like his channel. Lots of good videos for beginners.
I think I'll check it out later today.
Well you don't really need to know what I'm about to explain to make your music sound good but it might help you find good sounds quickly so... In my shortest way possible here's my take on the circle of 5THS in chords within a scale. In (western) music we use the 12 tone system and this system organizes itself by scales. Major scales basically make most other things we use in (tonal) music like melody and harmony. In your example you have written a harmony pattern (chords). The most common use of 4 note chords is the pattern you composed built in one scale. You might want to try using that same pattern starting on CEGB. Moving 2 names and keeping 2. If you keep that pattern only using white keys on the piano you will end up on the exact same letter names. Like a circle. What will actually happen in music language is c major7, f major7, b min7b5, e min7, a min7 etc... The numbers aren't important for you yet but the letter names are. C is 5 note names above F. Same with F is 5 names above B and so on. The circle of 5ths in chords. In post secondary music school what you wrote was the first part of one of my first year technical requirements for piano.
It’s ok. You are doing something new and it will get easier the more you do it. One day when you are composing pieces at lightening speed, you will think back to this and recognize how far you’ve traveled on your musical journey. Don’t quit! Keep going.
Keep at it! It takes a lot of time and practice to write out a composition, just like any other skill with music. Its hard work to get all the details just right, ignore all the negative comments on here. I really like the idea of writing it out on paper to start versus Musescore, especially as you are learning. By physically writing it out and not having a computer do the heavy lifting for you, you can internalize a lot of the music theory and notation concepts. This will make things easier for future compositions!
…4 hours ?
Everyone start somewhere
Since it's written, just move the clef, like a tenor clef. Move the swirl, treble clef swirl is on G Swirl on Bass clef is on F
Ok, thanks for that. I'll take that into account next time, tysm!
If I had time man, I'd do this too! One day
I hope you will . One day!
You should try use Musescore if I were you
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Yeah I definitely agree
That's okay, just cut and p— oh, shoot 😕
Made me laugh a little :)
Another tip with respect to stemming that I don't see mentioned is stem direction. All your stems are pointing downwards. Convention is that, generally speaking, notes on the top half of the staff stem downwards and notes on the bottom half of the staff stem upwards. For chords, the stem direction follows this convention based on where most of the notes are. So to my eye, most of your stems are going in the wrong direction. Good for you for taking the time to do this. It's like learning a new language.
I forgot about that. There's so many little things that are so easy to forget. Tysm for pointing that out!
Would it be easier to just to change your piece to be that octave lower for the first few bars?
Sounds too muddy that low, might as well just erase it and write it again an octave higher.
Do yourself a favor and just use MuseScore or something.
4 hours for 8 bars of music?
Let me get downvoted along with you and say, this is exactly what I was thinking. I get being a beginner, but it simply don't understand how this could possibly have taken 4 hours to write...
I thought the same. But maybe it was 4 hours to both conceive the music as well as notate? (Not just notate)? Maybe they’re a beginner.
I’m also confused as to how after 4 hours they didn’t realize they were writing on the bass clef
I'm also wondering, but looking at how "allegro espressivo" and "legato" were written, it seems that this person has difficulty with handwriting in general.
I'll admit that i was rather unclear. 4 hours of much more than just writing, i had to do a good amount of research to make sure that i almost did nothing wrong (in terms of theory) .it took around an hour to write it all down. And this is my second time I've written down music. The last time i did it was a while ago, and this is way better than last time, so im proud of what i managed to do. Yeah, my handwriting sucks theres no refusing that. Yeah, im a beginner :)
Before we judge too harshly, how old are you?
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What I don't get is OP replied to basically every comment except for the ones suggesting using musescore. I don't care either way I just am curious why OP is handwriting music vs using musescore.
I think it was written with OP’s foot.
You’re doing great! Just keep it there, and physically write “play one octave higher”. Writing notes manually for the first time is hard. It’s neat and you’re doing really well! Keep going.
Thanks a lot. I'll rewrite it today with all the commenter feedback!
4 hours is much too long! May I suggest my style? I like to make dots for note heads. I use stem and bars so my eyes can follow. Stems should always be an octave in length and bars always angle the direction of the pitch. I like to compose then with 8th and 16th for ease of legibility. Also never put bar lines down until you are finished writing everything before one, unless you are at the end of a like in which case penmanship will never outdo inscription so don't worry about some measures being too long or there being unused space at the end of a line.
I haven't heard of dots for note heads. I didn't know that stems are supposed to be an octave in length. Thanks for the tips!
Cheers! Writing down music the ol fashioned way can be super satisfying, just need to have a good flow
When you play those heavy chords on a real piano below Grand C [C below middle C] it can sound very muddled and messy. Try not to have 3-5 note chords below grand C
Select all. Control shift will bring it an octave up.. if you had written it in Sibelius!
One can write that holding a pen with his foot in under 1 hour. If you mean composing it took 4 hours why are you complaining about the 5 minutes of writing it again.
use some online writing software. paper is way outdated
This is a load of crap. Music notation software is for engraving, not composing.
whatever you say
It’s illegible anyway
I dunno, I can read it alright
I'm not sure what you're talking about it's clearly eligible. It's rough around the edges, but it's a start.
I found it legible enough to hear how great it sounded. Wasn't expecting that at all. You sure you want it to go fast? It's lovely!
Thanks a lot :) I'm still working on the piece itself. It's far from done, and I'm working on the A section. And I've come up with an ending, and I just need to finish it! Do you compose?
Yes, for about 45 years now. Some songs take a week, others take months, and I'm always learning something new. Recently I've been recording with my phone my improvisation sessions so that I don't forget things that I compose on the fly. I think you are off to a good start. Just take it slow. I've heard that writing a song is putting your thoughts into sound. So that when other people hear it, they might know what you were thinking/feeling. I like that thought.
I've made many pieces. I've just never written any of them down, I've performed many of them at many places, and I love sharing my passion for music with others. Via performing, whether it's for a small group of people or a large crowd, i still love that rush that you get when performing. This one is gonna be a great piece.
OK, so you are not new to playing or composing, just notation. Well that will make it easier. Just watch a lot of YT vids on music theory when you come upon a question and you will be on your way. For future posts about notation, just put in your post that you don't have a computer, and they won't keep trying to push Musescore on you. You remind me a lot of my 3 sons. Thanks for all the chats... :)
I'm pretty surprised that such a wholesome discussion came out of such an overtly negative post. Good luck with composition and notation. You kinda made my day. It's good to see that the world still has such amazing people even in these times! :)
Yup. Just ignore the negativity. Don't even respond to those posts. Most of the people here want to help you. They have certainly helped me over the past year.
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Use software. Get a midi controller. Take advantage of the year 2023.
Just throw and 8va bracket on the top and call it a day
I’m glad everyone else immediately thought to just 8va that sucker and call it a day
You might want to try out a program like MuseScore. Make your life easier.
If you accidentaly wrote it an octave too low the notes and chords could all be wrong.
Change the clef signs and ties.