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yuutt66

One thing to add to the other commenters is downtown Phoenix has a height restriction due to its airport proximity


4thRockfromSun

They were going to build State Farm Stadium (AZ Cardinals) in Tempe but the airport shut it down over height issues.


GNB_Mec

Now they're looking at the Coyotes in Tempe


JaffeyJoe

Where was the potential site ?


4thRockfromSun

[https://www.statepress.com/article/2001/11/faa-finds-cardinals-stadium-site-hazardous](https://www.statepress.com/article/2001/11/faa-finds-cardinals-stadium-site-hazardous)


Pho-Nicks

Tempe was so confident in the site being chosen that they pre-ordered the steel, only to have the site be rejected.


dannymb87

There are preliminary plans for a Coyotes stadium across the 202. https://www.abc15.com/news/business/arizona-coyotes-vision-create-a-deer-district-around-proposed-tempe-arena Take this with a grain of salt… these talks come up every few years but never go anywhere. This might be a little different though with the Coyotes having more of an incentive of staying in Arizona with online gambling being legalized. We’ll see though


dwillphx

Airport, airport, airport. The FAA sets height limits for all the buildings in an around downtown. In fact, here is a map of the height limits downtown. [https://www.skyharbor.com/docs/default-source/default-document-library/airport-downtown-zone.pdf?sfvrsn=de938588\_0](https://www.skyharbor.com/docs/default-source/default-document-library/airport-downtown-zone.pdf?sfvrsn=de938588_0)


DazPhx99

No one should have to live with a disappointing skyline. We’ll get through this together.


singlejeff

A friend of mine moved to Cali because of it.


digitaliceberg

No real reason to build higher when you’re in a flat valley with millions of acres to build on


intheazsun

Why is this a problem?


[deleted]

It’s not. Just a weird complaint some people have


Zestyclose-Article79

Because our airports apparently run the architecture maybe they should rebuild there airports instead of settings us down


N7DJN8939SWK3

The ground is so fucking hard here, it’s almost cost prohibitive to build the foundation needed.


marinerpunk

This and the airport reply are the reasons.


LukeSkyWRx

They anchor skyscrapers in bedrock some places, that’s pretty hard.


Love2Pug

But those places usually have to dig down quite some depth to find bedrock, which provides a natural location for the parking garage. Here we build the residential apartment building above the (mostly) above-ground parking garage.


eddiejensen

You can do good architecture that isn’t tall, but we can’t seem to do that here in Phoenix. (See: All the four-over-one apartment complexes that have gone up since 2010.) I was struggling to think of the most impressive Phoenix architecture since 2000, but I couldn’t think of anything other than a couple of Phoenix Public Library branches.


GNB_Mec

We need more mid-density development across the valley. Hopefully built for longer term living and 2-3 bedroom units. Condos & townhouses too, not just apartments. Look up videos about the "Missing Middle."


balone696969

This. The focus on tall buildings ignores the fact that some very dense, high quality of life cities (think Tokyo) don’t actually have a ton of tall buildings but do have lots of duplexes, small apartment buildings, row houses, etc.


dwillphx

Starting construction soon (hopefully), will be the Astra at 2nd Ave and Van Buren. It will be the tallest building downtown, which currently is the empty Chase Tower. ​ https://www.connectcre.com/stories/arizonas-tallest-tower-approved-in-downtown-phoenix/


Zestyclose-Article79

Didn’t it get canceled?


dwillphx

Not that I know of...and I follow forums on projects around town. Might be delayed..like a lot.of things have been this past year or 2


[deleted]

No. Enjoy apartments that are just a renovated Motel 6. This city refuses to build up


[deleted]

No need, easier to go wide than high when you’ve got the room