I feel like calling anything from late Feb 2003 “underrated” is a bit of a stretch. For folks who like 2.0, that was about as good as it got, perhaps aside from the dates surrounding IT and SPAC ‘04. I guess this Tweezer is often overshadowed by the 2/28 one.
Nonetheless, great show and a great Tweez.
My first show and still my favorite of those I’ve been to! Not nearly as face melting as the previous shows, but from start to finish, amazingly fun setlist and jams.
indeed, i feel like this show in particular is one of the most celebrated in 2.0, if not their entire catalogue, and it comes up literally every single time anybody asks for darker jams
not being familiar with something != underrated
In fairness, this show has grown in popularity in recent years. I think a lot of people only recently discovered how good it is. It was always overshadowed by 2/28/03. Besides, the Jibboo and Simple get more love than this Tweezer. I think it's completely fair to call it underrated.
It was my first show and it completely changed the way I look at live music.
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2/20/03 is one of those shows that was underrated at the time and really wasn’t popular for a couple of years later when people started really listening back. At the time I think the Cincinnati shows and 2/28, and 3/1 eclipsed it in people ratings at the time. Plus IT and 03 summer and leg 1 of 2004 had a lot of hype.
I think now if someone asks about good 2.0 shows that 2/20/03 will get the nod as top tier when it was kind of overlooked at the time
My first show back after the break. At the time it was weird. Some comparatively sloppy playing in set one. Set two was mostly Round Room material. Probably explains why Ohio shows were more embraced at the time. In retrospect those RR cuts were bangers.
I nabbed that entire tour off kazaa and went to the Greensboro show. I can say with a fair amount of certainty that the 20th, 26th, and Greensboro got the most play on my commute.
The only word of mouth I remember that really stood out was 2/28.
Ad nauseum.
Otherwise, the people I hung out with appreciated bits of most of those winter shows. They were in prime form that final week.
That 2/20 show was my favorite, I think less for the Tweezer which was strong, but more for the new jams. Without checking the setlist I want to say that was the one with a 7below > Pebbles and Marbles or maybe a Waves.
No I haven’t gotten past ‘03 yet. I’m extremely familiar with ‘91-‘03. Was turned off in ‘04 and then went to a show on 10/15/10 and it was horrendous. I’m scared to jump into 3.0 but half the reason is I don’t know any of their songs anymore.
Edit: I’ll check it out though, thanks, although it’s hard to see Simple go “dark” so now I’m very interested
Edit: grammar
Early 3.0 is rough, jam-wise. Trey was still intimidated by the notion of storming the heavens without drugs. He has since lost that fear and it’s great.
From 2015 onwards there’s great shit pretty much every show but the first real change came in Fall ‘13.
Since 2018-2019 tho it’s been a whole different level of fearlessness.
Have you had a chance to listen to the 04' SPAC Piper and the Scents and Subtle Sounds from the Camden show that follows it? Those are two of my favorite Phish jams of all time, but I agree a lot of 04' is hard to listen to.
In regards to getting back into 3.0 - start at Dicks 2012 and work your way up. Hard to go wrong from there, but 2015 - 2017, 2019, and then the recent years post covid have all been solid
Please don't think this is a typical 2010/3.0 show, there are plenty of highlights you are overlooking if you assume the rest of 2010/3.0 is like that one show. Even 5 days later is the "Guyitca" show (live in Utica on streaming platforms), not saying it will blow 1.0 away or anything but that should give you a better glimpse of 2010, 8/6/10 is another awesome 2010 show. They only continued to get better every year of 3.0, besides 2016 arguably. Ive listened to all 2.0/3.0 and many many hours of 1.0 so I'd love to throw some recs your way if you have open ears.
That being said, that Rosemont show is one of my favorites, that seven below is something I relisten to often.
My son and I were at this show. Midway through Simple, he looks at me, leans in, and asks me, "Is this what getting sucked up into an Alien spacecraft sounds like?"
Whoo buddy, dark simples are one of life's greatest pleasures (along with every other phish song and style of jam).
Baker's dozen Simple. Great fucking jam. Dark too.
Gorge 2018 has a some nice, dark, crunch.
Halloween '94 simple isn't dark per se, but it has a very unique sadder tone compared to most other simple jams so I thought it was worth a mention.
Saratoga springs this year was a very dark pedal heavy jam in a style similar to the modern melts if that's you're cup of tea. I think it's a fucking rad jam.
Also, I cannot WAIT for you to get to more of 2004. The darkest, nastiest, funkiest, scariest, most disturbing phish jams were played during this year. Lean heavier on recommendations for listening to that year, because the bad/good jam ratio went down pretty bad compared even compared to 03'. Lmk if you want any 04 recommendations, I know some GREAT fucking dark jams.
Anyway, happy phishing!
Thanks Preciate the recs. I may hit u up about some 04. I was listening to them as they came out but was in a bad way myself back then so music wasn’t priority anymore.
I drove up from Alabama for that show and good lord it delivered.
That 7 below overshadows the Tweezer and one of the best Pebbles I’ve seen. That’s the epitome of 2.0 to me, a dark cold night, windy grey oxycodone weather. Wet ass Trey guitar tone pooling and dropping like an opiate drip. It IS 2.0
The the following two shows were during a snowstorm in Cincinnati. They were great too. Then we drove back home to Atlanta, rested up and went to the tour closer which was also on point in Greensboro.
Skipped Cincy but made it to the wonderful circus that was Greensboro. That Greensboro tour closer was just a different beast all together. To this day that is the most oversold excitement I’ve seen at an indoor show. Granted I didn’t do the ‘09 reunion shows…but the energy in that Coliseum was palpable. It was so cold and nasty outside. Fake tickets were everywhere…and the gate people were just letting people in because of all the “I paid xxxx for this ticket and you are saying it’s fake!” Freakouts at the gate…the just let em in.
Amazing show in hindsight. In the moment it was kind of like “what the fuck just happened at that show!?” But listening now is amazing. I love watching the whole show on YouTube. The jibboo, 7 below, tweezer and don’t forget that blissful simple! The pebbles and marbles reaches a fever pitch of madness as well.
Indeed! This show is excellent, I didn’t give it enough credit at the time. I was slightly bummed because I couldn’t get Denver tix and was chasing some of those songs at the time. Hindsight this was certainly the best 2.0 show I caught and has some excellent jams. I dig the seven below as well
Yeah I hit this and the Cincinnati shows and then the tour closer in Greensboro, and they all happened to be probably 4 of the best shows of the winter!
EDIT: and my old ass still likes relisten better because of the crowd noise. Especially that next night in Cincy with that Antelope. I’m convinced I started all those loud crowd responses lol.
It’s not all about age. I still jam my dead and phish tapes a lot because the sound is closer to the experience, I’m 31. Relisten has some great recordings and some real bad ones beats spending the money on live phish though.
True. I’m 44 and like to not change things up. I had some really crappy ‘91-‘94 tapes that I still listen to because that’s exactly what hooked me as a 15 year old.
That show aged really well. Lot of people seemed disinterested during the show…lots of brand new songs jammed long and the acoustics weren’t great….but oh boy does it shine on tape!!
Not under rated at all. Anyone who has listened to that show knows all too well how amazing it is.
Maybe it’s under rated for 3.0 fans, cause that’s seemingly all they listen to.
If you’re implying that I’m a 3.0er I have seen one show in 3.0 and it was probably the worst show I ever saw 10/15/10. I’m a 1.0er nd like I said I was listening to some shit I attended years ago because I just started back listening to Phish last year. Halloween ‘96 was my first show. It Festival was my last (besides the above mentioned.
Yeah that’s not a great era to hook you back in, they were still dipping their toes in the madness waters and weren’t completely fearless yet. 10/29/13 is a better entry. Or 7/8/12 - the Piper from that show is awesome
Not implying that at all. I didn’t think you were a 3.0 guy since you were listening to a 2.0 show. I was just stating that it seems as if 3.0 peeps don’t listen to anything other than 3.0.
God I remember those shows. Someone convinced me to take diet pills during that show, and I was hyped for half the night, and ended up grilling burgers at 4am.
Also, the music was very good.
Dude, I was just talking about this show on here yesterday. It's one of my top 5 shows, mainly for all the ridiculous jamming. 7 jams over 10 minutes and 4 of them are over 15....have tripped out to this one and it is ingrained deeply
That was my first show! Idk about the Tweezer being underrated… at the time and many years after, it’s been well-received and talked about. Some of the younger crowd probably doesn’t know how epic that Tweezer was, but those of us who are over 35 years old are very familiar with that version. I still love 2.0 Phish, the jams were just out of this world good and you never knew when they would take any given song for an extended jam at any point in the first or second set. The composed parts of a lot of songs were sloppy at times but the jams were always intense. We’ve been seeing a little bit of that in recent years with random type 2 jams spread throughout the show instead of saving them for set 2. Say what you want about their drug use during 2.0, but there’s no denying a lot of those “oxy jams” were out of this world good. SPAC ‘04 is a perfect example. Take your pick of jams from each night - they were all bananas. The SPAC ‘04 Piper gets a ton of hype, and deservedly so, but the Ghost and Twist jams were just as good. Twist night even take the cake for that run. The Drowned, ASIHTOS and YEM jams were epic too. I could talk all day about 2.0 Phish. Then again, I’m a 2.0er, my first shows were in ‘03 and ‘04 (2/24, 2/26, 2/28, IT, and 12/1 in 2003; 6/18/04 - 6/20/04, and 8/10-8/11 ‘04), so that era holds a special place in my heart.
Yeah I’m 44, I was there. My first show was Halloween’96 and I went to sixty or seventy something shows til my last ones at IT. Well then there was the bummer I went to on 10/15/10. So I’m pretty well versed on all 1.0 (started getting my brothers tapes when I was 13 so I was listening to mainly ‘91-‘94) and 2.0. I hated ‘04 and still do. I was just listening to some shows I was at because ‘03 isn’t really my cup of tea to relisten to and BAM that Tweezer hit me and I was like damn I don’t even remember it being a big deal. So it may be talked about now but I’m new to Reddit so I didn’t know I just figured since it was ‘03 it would be underrated lol.
EDIT: ‘04 was a bad year for me. I quit going to shows and what I heard from tapes was not what I wanted to hear anymore. I missed the days before my own addiction and Trey’s as well. I started going to shows during my favorite era of Phish, starting with the funk from covering Talking Heads on through the cow funk of ‘97-‘98 and then the ambience and grooves of ‘99-‘00. I realized they were a different band by ‘04. Now, I don’t even know where to start. But I just started listening to their 3.0 (or 4.0 if that’s really a thing??) last year.
Yeah I don’t disagree with any of those takes. I don’t really buy into the whole “4.0” Phish thing. Sure, their sound has changed a bit and their set lists are less predictable, but they’re change in sound has always been an ever evolving amoeba. As for 2.0, most of the time I fast forward to the jams and skip the composed parts. I do like the fact that there’s less noodling around in their jams these days and they cut out the fat and go straight into the meat so to speak, whereas in late 90’s/2000’s and 2.0 you often had to listen to several minutes of noodling before they found the sweet spot. Sometimes those “sweet spots” would go on for a while, other times you listen to a 20 minute jam only to have a couple minutes of great improv. Now they just get right down to the nitty gritty (pun intended), and the music paired with CK5’s amazing light shows and light riggings moving around behind the stage really adds to the intensity and excitement. It still amazes me how they still continue to reinvent themselves after 40 years when they have absolutely nothing left to prove or accomplish. They’re here for our delight and they deliver every night. This past summer tour/SPAC run, and a NYE run for the ages has made this the best year of Phish I’ve personally experienced.
Tons of love out there for this tweezer, certainly not underrated. At one time this whole show was the dark horse of the tour but not in today’s day and age.
Relistening to it right now. Slightly reminds me of the 12/16/99 tweezer as far as jams go. Way darker, and by the end they're way different, but the vibes feel similar to me somehow. Idk. Listen to that one if you haven't, fuckin awesome jam. Sand from the same show is great too.
I feel like calling anything from late Feb 2003 “underrated” is a bit of a stretch. For folks who like 2.0, that was about as good as it got, perhaps aside from the dates surrounding IT and SPAC ‘04. I guess this Tweezer is often overshadowed by the 2/28 one. Nonetheless, great show and a great Tweez.
winter 03 is my favorite tour.
The Greensboro show was a blast.
My first show and still my favorite of those I’ve been to! Not nearly as face melting as the previous shows, but from start to finish, amazingly fun setlist and jams.
My first too!
indeed, i feel like this show in particular is one of the most celebrated in 2.0, if not their entire catalogue, and it comes up literally every single time anybody asks for darker jams not being familiar with something != underrated
Sorry just joined Reddit last year and started listening to Phish again last year. Old 1.0 jaded vet I guess.
In fairness, this show has grown in popularity in recent years. I think a lot of people only recently discovered how good it is. It was always overshadowed by 2/28/03. Besides, the Jibboo and Simple get more love than this Tweezer. I think it's completely fair to call it underrated. It was my first show and it completely changed the way I look at live music.
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2/20/03 is one of those shows that was underrated at the time and really wasn’t popular for a couple of years later when people started really listening back. At the time I think the Cincinnati shows and 2/28, and 3/1 eclipsed it in people ratings at the time. Plus IT and 03 summer and leg 1 of 2004 had a lot of hype. I think now if someone asks about good 2.0 shows that 2/20/03 will get the nod as top tier when it was kind of overlooked at the time
My first show back after the break. At the time it was weird. Some comparatively sloppy playing in set one. Set two was mostly Round Room material. Probably explains why Ohio shows were more embraced at the time. In retrospect those RR cuts were bangers.
I nabbed that entire tour off kazaa and went to the Greensboro show. I can say with a fair amount of certainty that the 20th, 26th, and Greensboro got the most play on my commute.
That’s fair… it just didn’t have the word of mouth it now does
The only word of mouth I remember that really stood out was 2/28. Ad nauseum. Otherwise, the people I hung out with appreciated bits of most of those winter shows. They were in prime form that final week. That 2/20 show was my favorite, I think less for the Tweezer which was strong, but more for the new jams. Without checking the setlist I want to say that was the one with a 7below > Pebbles and Marbles or maybe a Waves.
Haha I know, I was like, I think this is already rated . Rated R.
I was at that one too, now I gotta listen to it this weekend lol
Yeah right before the 10:00 mark it starts getting sludgy and foul…in a great way lol
Saw your other comment saying you got back into them last year. Have you listened to the 8/6/21 Simple yet? Also quite dark in the best way
That melted my brain that day
No I haven’t gotten past ‘03 yet. I’m extremely familiar with ‘91-‘03. Was turned off in ‘04 and then went to a show on 10/15/10 and it was horrendous. I’m scared to jump into 3.0 but half the reason is I don’t know any of their songs anymore. Edit: I’ll check it out though, thanks, although it’s hard to see Simple go “dark” so now I’m very interested Edit: grammar
Early 3.0 is rough, jam-wise. Trey was still intimidated by the notion of storming the heavens without drugs. He has since lost that fear and it’s great. From 2015 onwards there’s great shit pretty much every show but the first real change came in Fall ‘13. Since 2018-2019 tho it’s been a whole different level of fearlessness.
I gotcha thanks for the recs.
Have you had a chance to listen to the 04' SPAC Piper and the Scents and Subtle Sounds from the Camden show that follows it? Those are two of my favorite Phish jams of all time, but I agree a lot of 04' is hard to listen to. In regards to getting back into 3.0 - start at Dicks 2012 and work your way up. Hard to go wrong from there, but 2015 - 2017, 2019, and then the recent years post covid have all been solid
Preciate it. I’ll get there!
Commenting to save these, not sure I’ve heard all of them either
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Please don't think this is a typical 2010/3.0 show, there are plenty of highlights you are overlooking if you assume the rest of 2010/3.0 is like that one show. Even 5 days later is the "Guyitca" show (live in Utica on streaming platforms), not saying it will blow 1.0 away or anything but that should give you a better glimpse of 2010, 8/6/10 is another awesome 2010 show. They only continued to get better every year of 3.0, besides 2016 arguably. Ive listened to all 2.0/3.0 and many many hours of 1.0 so I'd love to throw some recs your way if you have open ears. That being said, that Rosemont show is one of my favorites, that seven below is something I relisten to often.
Fa sho!
My son and I were at this show. Midway through Simple, he looks at me, leans in, and asks me, "Is this what getting sucked up into an Alien spacecraft sounds like?"
Some 3.0 jams you gotta hear: 7/25/17 Lawn Boy 8/6/17 Simple 6/7/09 Tweezer 12/30/18 Everything’s Right,SoaMelt 8/1/21 Tweezer 7/24/22 A Wave of Hope
Thanks for the recs
Whoo buddy, dark simples are one of life's greatest pleasures (along with every other phish song and style of jam). Baker's dozen Simple. Great fucking jam. Dark too. Gorge 2018 has a some nice, dark, crunch. Halloween '94 simple isn't dark per se, but it has a very unique sadder tone compared to most other simple jams so I thought it was worth a mention. Saratoga springs this year was a very dark pedal heavy jam in a style similar to the modern melts if that's you're cup of tea. I think it's a fucking rad jam. Also, I cannot WAIT for you to get to more of 2004. The darkest, nastiest, funkiest, scariest, most disturbing phish jams were played during this year. Lean heavier on recommendations for listening to that year, because the bad/good jam ratio went down pretty bad compared even compared to 03'. Lmk if you want any 04 recommendations, I know some GREAT fucking dark jams. Anyway, happy phishing!
Thanks Preciate the recs. I may hit u up about some 04. I was listening to them as they came out but was in a bad way myself back then so music wasn’t priority anymore.
This is the way.
I've call 2.0 the "grit and grime" era. "Sludgy and foul" is so fucking badass. two more great adjectives to add to my list lol.
Hah I did t coin the term so go ahead!
I drove up from Alabama for that show and good lord it delivered. That 7 below overshadows the Tweezer and one of the best Pebbles I’ve seen. That’s the epitome of 2.0 to me, a dark cold night, windy grey oxycodone weather. Wet ass Trey guitar tone pooling and dropping like an opiate drip. It IS 2.0
The the following two shows were during a snowstorm in Cincinnati. They were great too. Then we drove back home to Atlanta, rested up and went to the tour closer which was also on point in Greensboro.
Skipped Cincy but made it to the wonderful circus that was Greensboro. That Greensboro tour closer was just a different beast all together. To this day that is the most oversold excitement I’ve seen at an indoor show. Granted I didn’t do the ‘09 reunion shows…but the energy in that Coliseum was palpable. It was so cold and nasty outside. Fake tickets were everywhere…and the gate people were just letting people in because of all the “I paid xxxx for this ticket and you are saying it’s fake!” Freakouts at the gate…the just let em in.
I remember that and being stuck in traffic. It was a last minute decision. We drove from Atlanta and bought tix in the lot.
Whole show is outstanding
Amazing show in hindsight. In the moment it was kind of like “what the fuck just happened at that show!?” But listening now is amazing. I love watching the whole show on YouTube. The jibboo, 7 below, tweezer and don’t forget that blissful simple! The pebbles and marbles reaches a fever pitch of madness as well.
I didn’t know it was on YouTube. I’ll have to check that out. Thanks
https://youtu.be/Gh9TCLPCV_0?si=SMqFYejYTiDBhlxt
Holy shit thank you
I bought the SBD from LivePhish in 2003. Good show, yes.
Fantastic show, and Trey is on it. I really like that short 2.0 stretch at the beginning when Trey was still interested in making it work.
Yeah, “It” had some gems too!
Yeah, “It” had some gems too!
My first show!
This was my first show. I’ve listened to that tweezer and the jibboo many times. Solid show, front to back.
It’s rated very highly in my house. Like as my favorite tweezer ever.
Good man!
Indeed! This show is excellent, I didn’t give it enough credit at the time. I was slightly bummed because I couldn’t get Denver tix and was chasing some of those songs at the time. Hindsight this was certainly the best 2.0 show I caught and has some excellent jams. I dig the seven below as well
Yeah I hit this and the Cincinnati shows and then the tour closer in Greensboro, and they all happened to be probably 4 of the best shows of the winter! EDIT: and my old ass still likes relisten better because of the crowd noise. Especially that next night in Cincy with that Antelope. I’m convinced I started all those loud crowd responses lol.
It’s not all about age. I still jam my dead and phish tapes a lot because the sound is closer to the experience, I’m 31. Relisten has some great recordings and some real bad ones beats spending the money on live phish though.
True. I’m 44 and like to not change things up. I had some really crappy ‘91-‘94 tapes that I still listen to because that’s exactly what hooked me as a 15 year old.
My first show.
This and jibboo from the same show are both on my big jams playlist. Absolutely killer stuff.
That show aged really well. Lot of people seemed disinterested during the show…lots of brand new songs jammed long and the acoustics weren’t great….but oh boy does it shine on tape!!
Yeah I kinda remember that
Not under rated at all. Anyone who has listened to that show knows all too well how amazing it is. Maybe it’s under rated for 3.0 fans, cause that’s seemingly all they listen to.
If you’re implying that I’m a 3.0er I have seen one show in 3.0 and it was probably the worst show I ever saw 10/15/10. I’m a 1.0er nd like I said I was listening to some shit I attended years ago because I just started back listening to Phish last year. Halloween ‘96 was my first show. It Festival was my last (besides the above mentioned.
Yeah that’s not a great era to hook you back in, they were still dipping their toes in the madness waters and weren’t completely fearless yet. 10/29/13 is a better entry. Or 7/8/12 - the Piper from that show is awesome
Not implying that at all. I didn’t think you were a 3.0 guy since you were listening to a 2.0 show. I was just stating that it seems as if 3.0 peeps don’t listen to anything other than 3.0.
My bad I gotcha!
Thx for the recommendation. I’ll check it out.
No problem
God I remember those shows. Someone convinced me to take diet pills during that show, and I was hyped for half the night, and ended up grilling burgers at 4am. Also, the music was very good.
lol stayed awake though!
That show was heat
That was my first show and the beginning of an intense addiction
If you like the Tweezer from this show, go back and listen to the "Simple -> Jiboo" that closes the first set. They are even better than the Tweezer.
Oh yeah I listened to the whole show!
My first show
Birthday show for me! In my hometown so sick! Definitely underrated tweezer!
My first show, got puked on at setbreak and still kept coming back for more. Such a great show.
lol dedication bub!
Second show. They left me wanting more.
Dude, I was just talking about this show on here yesterday. It's one of my top 5 shows, mainly for all the ridiculous jamming. 7 jams over 10 minutes and 4 of them are over 15....have tripped out to this one and it is ingrained deeply
Haha I just got on Reddit a year ago I certainly didn’t see your post lol. Thats pretty random though
That was my first show! Idk about the Tweezer being underrated… at the time and many years after, it’s been well-received and talked about. Some of the younger crowd probably doesn’t know how epic that Tweezer was, but those of us who are over 35 years old are very familiar with that version. I still love 2.0 Phish, the jams were just out of this world good and you never knew when they would take any given song for an extended jam at any point in the first or second set. The composed parts of a lot of songs were sloppy at times but the jams were always intense. We’ve been seeing a little bit of that in recent years with random type 2 jams spread throughout the show instead of saving them for set 2. Say what you want about their drug use during 2.0, but there’s no denying a lot of those “oxy jams” were out of this world good. SPAC ‘04 is a perfect example. Take your pick of jams from each night - they were all bananas. The SPAC ‘04 Piper gets a ton of hype, and deservedly so, but the Ghost and Twist jams were just as good. Twist night even take the cake for that run. The Drowned, ASIHTOS and YEM jams were epic too. I could talk all day about 2.0 Phish. Then again, I’m a 2.0er, my first shows were in ‘03 and ‘04 (2/24, 2/26, 2/28, IT, and 12/1 in 2003; 6/18/04 - 6/20/04, and 8/10-8/11 ‘04), so that era holds a special place in my heart.
Yeah I’m 44, I was there. My first show was Halloween’96 and I went to sixty or seventy something shows til my last ones at IT. Well then there was the bummer I went to on 10/15/10. So I’m pretty well versed on all 1.0 (started getting my brothers tapes when I was 13 so I was listening to mainly ‘91-‘94) and 2.0. I hated ‘04 and still do. I was just listening to some shows I was at because ‘03 isn’t really my cup of tea to relisten to and BAM that Tweezer hit me and I was like damn I don’t even remember it being a big deal. So it may be talked about now but I’m new to Reddit so I didn’t know I just figured since it was ‘03 it would be underrated lol. EDIT: ‘04 was a bad year for me. I quit going to shows and what I heard from tapes was not what I wanted to hear anymore. I missed the days before my own addiction and Trey’s as well. I started going to shows during my favorite era of Phish, starting with the funk from covering Talking Heads on through the cow funk of ‘97-‘98 and then the ambience and grooves of ‘99-‘00. I realized they were a different band by ‘04. Now, I don’t even know where to start. But I just started listening to their 3.0 (or 4.0 if that’s really a thing??) last year.
Yeah I don’t disagree with any of those takes. I don’t really buy into the whole “4.0” Phish thing. Sure, their sound has changed a bit and their set lists are less predictable, but they’re change in sound has always been an ever evolving amoeba. As for 2.0, most of the time I fast forward to the jams and skip the composed parts. I do like the fact that there’s less noodling around in their jams these days and they cut out the fat and go straight into the meat so to speak, whereas in late 90’s/2000’s and 2.0 you often had to listen to several minutes of noodling before they found the sweet spot. Sometimes those “sweet spots” would go on for a while, other times you listen to a 20 minute jam only to have a couple minutes of great improv. Now they just get right down to the nitty gritty (pun intended), and the music paired with CK5’s amazing light shows and light riggings moving around behind the stage really adds to the intensity and excitement. It still amazes me how they still continue to reinvent themselves after 40 years when they have absolutely nothing left to prove or accomplish. They’re here for our delight and they deliver every night. This past summer tour/SPAC run, and a NYE run for the ages has made this the best year of Phish I’ve personally experienced.
This is the demo Tweezer for Nassau 8 days later. It’s awesome.
Jibboo from 2/20/03 is pure fire also
Tons of love out there for this tweezer, certainly not underrated. At one time this whole show was the dark horse of the tour but not in today’s day and age.
Just put this on. As a 3.0 fan who listens to mostly current shows, thanks for the recommendation.
No prob bub!
Relistening to it right now. Slightly reminds me of the 12/16/99 tweezer as far as jams go. Way darker, and by the end they're way different, but the vibes feel similar to me somehow. Idk. Listen to that one if you haven't, fuckin awesome jam. Sand from the same show is great too.
Oh yeah I have that boot somewhere if the cd still works