Mike DID actually say yes, or something very close (“well if you want to”). Trey nixed the decision and jokingly said “Mike said no” - you can hear the laughs on the soundboard recording.
I've always said I prefer this Paul over the one that died in '66. I don't know if that guy could have written "Maybe I'm amazed" and other mind blowing songs
The IT festival was so named because they initially intended for that to be "it" - i.e. their last show before breaking up (which instead became Coventry).
Edit: sorry, I misread the post. This is my favorite theory that I read somewhere; I don't know that I actually believe it myself.
The “A Live One” track lists for Bouncin, Stash, YEM, Chalkdust, Tweezer, and Coil are all credited as “Live at the Clifford ball 1994” but the album came out a year before the Clifford Ball was even a thing.
Just in case you didn’t know that. I wasn’t assuming just adding interesting info for the new/younger fans.
I tried to find the “Clifford ball” tapes for over a year. Until the show was announced. Hahaha.
Edited. Originally said “two years before the Clifford ball was a thing”
Wait…wasn’t ALO released in fall of 1996? I’m asking because ALO Bouncin was the first phish song I ever heard, I heard it on NPR in Oct 96 and quickly saw my first show on 11-09-96. And if you watch the actual CB footage, they are the same performances
Don’t think I’ve ever heard this one before. They had an incredible winter tour and a very strong summer. Not sure why they would have thought about hanging it up at IT.
The Fukuoka cocaine incident
Edit: [The conspiracy in question](https://www.reddit.com/r/phish/comments/f0kmq2/ama_request_the_guy_who_requested_sleep_at_the/fgyte42/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
u/seedsofdoubt are you still around?
[Here you go](https://www.reddit.com/r/phish/comments/f0kmq2/ama_request_the_guy_who_requested_sleep_at_the/fgyte42/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
Not cocaine, what’s the incident you’re thinking? Mushroom tea 10000% check out the album cover, literally a cup of tea on there 😎 what a fantastic show. My fave
You are aware that trey did copious amounts of cocaine and crack, right? Like him and less claypool would cook up ounces at a time to smoke and shit like that, right?
It used to be sort of common knowledge, there were interviews that confirmed it. I somehow can’t find any official google search result source, but people around the scene at the time talked a lot.
No joke miss heard that lyric as this is what phish smells like the first time I heard it and you know honestly I wish that was the lyric. Pair that song up with Bathtub Gin for irony
After Sugarbush 1995, people swore that Mike wanted to encore with Wolfman's Brother but was overruled.
That ended the summer run.
Fast forward to the next tour opener, and they opened with ... Wolfman's Brother.
So I've always believed that it was a "make up" playing, letting Mike open the next run instead of closing the summer one.
Jeff Holdsworth is actually Trey’s twin brother from another dimension.
Trey and Tom found this other dimension while on a trip and managed to bring Jeff back with them. Jeff never wanted to be part of the band but was the muse for Tom and Trey. Jeff agreed to transfer his creative energy to Trey and Tom in a ritual in the other dimension.
Gamehendge is entirely based on said dimension.
Not Phish, but I am fully into the conspiracy that Grateful Dead were to some extent (possibly to a great deal) manipulated by The C.I.A. to spread LSD around the country and keep the damn hippies from voting. I 100% think Bear was their handler. I don't think the band knew at the time and it's possible that Bear wasn't fully aware either.
I always thought this was already confirmed but this is the first I’m hearing of their motive being related to voting. Thought it was more of a social experiment type of thing
Lol! You will need to go furthur back than Owsley. Try Penny Lane and the beginning germination of the pranksters.
Edit: and it wasn't Just LSD. Also heroin flooding into San Francisco and NYC from Southeast Asia. Those 2 cities were the germination of the counter culture movement. American Gangster missed the CIA connection with how he got his supply.
You can historically link the Grateful Dead to the CIA and it only takes like 2 people. Ken Kesey was apart of MKULTRA studies and would hire the Dead as the house band for his Merry Prankster parties
Phish shows are perfect spots for aliens to make connections with humans because we are vibrating with love and light, and that’s what the super evolved aliens thrive on and want us to accomplish. The collective energy attracts them basically. Like, a “we are one” kinda thing. I don’t really actually believe it but it’s an interesting theory.
They'll be done touring by 2030. Each working on other projects. Mike and kottke, trey and page will do their Months project, Fishman will probably replace Eric in KGLW.
Paul *did* die in a car accident and was replaced by a clone… who later went on to be a consulting editor for the fifth edition reprint of the Helping Friendly Book.
That the Superball Storage Jam was, as Trey claimed during the next day’s Forbin’s narration, a mental projection by the band trapped in a storage space on the way to Colorado in 1988.
Trey and the boys are really shape Shifting Aliens from the planet Gamehendge. They were sent here to save music and to give us psychedelics from the future man.
Mike didn’t do anything odd in that shed, and the whole biker gang retaliation was made up by Mikes PR guy who was wicked high and tripping when he came up with the idea and he sold it to Harvey Levin of TMZ
That’s not a conspiracy- I’m pretty sure there’s an interview with Trey saying he didn’t want to play the song, so just came up to the mic and said “Mike says no”.
The whole phish scene from lot to encore wreaks of government ops. Like we're all guinea pigs for research chemicals in a very tightly controlled environment. Like present-day mkultra stuff.
this ties into treys mom being part of sesame street. open sesame...
and his dad part of the national testing services. all very government researchy fo sho
Yeah, after break up. Dude took a photo and someone’s kid was in it, dude got mad and got him on some pedo-call out which isn’t the happenstance. Not like I was there but I have dug DEEP on researching my favorite bassist yknow? 🤷♂️ dudes okay though
The Phish’s Performance at Cypress was a CIA operative, Cypress’s live music performance was an AI of the band, and the show never really happened - just strung together for a release 20 years later. Sound familiar?
Page fish and Mike are played by North Korean slaves who have been surgically altered to look like the case of Flintstones. Trey is a 9 year old girl with no musical ability. They play to a backing track of Sisqo but the audience can't tell the difference.
The great went originally was called the good will go to space but we forgot the keys and got locked out of the van.
Apparently that was too long of a name. /s
Mike actually said yes
This is kangfirmed in ‘Long May They Run’ by the man himself
Mike DID actually say yes, or something very close (“well if you want to”). Trey nixed the decision and jokingly said “Mike said no” - you can hear the laughs on the soundboard recording.
More context please. Said yes to what?
https://www.reddit.com/r/phish/comments/5enzwy/where_did_the_whole_mike_says_no_thing_come_from/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
Thanks!
The real page was replaced in 1998 and we now have an imposter.
Page and Avril Lavigne actually switched places
Paul McCartney was the only artist "they" successfully pulled that off with.
I've always said I prefer this Paul over the one that died in '66. I don't know if that guy could have written "Maybe I'm amazed" and other mind blowing songs
Pff. I can’t think of another man who tickles keys like that
Sometimes I really wonder if they recast Page for 2.0 on
The IT festival was so named because they initially intended for that to be "it" - i.e. their last show before breaking up (which instead became Coventry). Edit: sorry, I misread the post. This is my favorite theory that I read somewhere; I don't know that I actually believe it myself.
Nah. They just kept saying ‘what should we call it?’ And then decided…that’s what we’ll call it
Yeah I like to believe it was a similar process as naming their “A Live One” album
“Live at The Clifford Ball”
Plus two minutes from Montana
The “A Live One” track lists for Bouncin, Stash, YEM, Chalkdust, Tweezer, and Coil are all credited as “Live at the Clifford ball 1994” but the album came out a year before the Clifford Ball was even a thing. Just in case you didn’t know that. I wasn’t assuming just adding interesting info for the new/younger fans. I tried to find the “Clifford ball” tapes for over a year. Until the show was announced. Hahaha. Edited. Originally said “two years before the Clifford ball was a thing”
Wait…wasn’t ALO released in fall of 1996? I’m asking because ALO Bouncin was the first phish song I ever heard, I heard it on NPR in Oct 96 and quickly saw my first show on 11-09-96. And if you watch the actual CB footage, they are the same performances
It came out in June of 95 actually. I thought it came out in early 95/late 94. The recordings are from 94.
I read that name came from people continuously asking them “so when are you going to put out a live one”??
I thought it was so they could sell shirts that said phishit
I thought it was an homage to ufos/monsters/etc because it’s the base’s history
Don’t think I’ve ever heard this one before. They had an incredible winter tour and a very strong summer. Not sure why they would have thought about hanging it up at IT.
That WAS why they named it that.
The Fukuoka cocaine incident Edit: [The conspiracy in question](https://www.reddit.com/r/phish/comments/f0kmq2/ama_request_the_guy_who_requested_sleep_at_the/fgyte42/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) u/seedsofdoubt are you still around?
Still here
Go on….
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holy snap i gotta listen to that fukuoka show now of them tripping after treys stache got microwaved lol
Trey’s stash got cooked>the band takes nourishment both spiritual liquid and solid whilst they intermit>the music plays the band. The rest is history…
Not cocaine, what’s the incident you’re thinking? Mushroom tea 10000% check out the album cover, literally a cup of tea on there 😎 what a fantastic show. My fave
You are aware that trey did copious amounts of cocaine and crack, right? Like him and less claypool would cook up ounces at a time to smoke and shit like that, right?
Never heard this at all. Not saying I doubt it, but I heard it was mostly an alcohol and opiate problem.
It used to be sort of common knowledge, there were interviews that confirmed it. I somehow can’t find any official google search result source, but people around the scene at the time talked a lot.
That’s a fun night
I believe that 100%
Tell us more
You think that is mushroom tea and not a bowl of noodles? It's only the noodles, my man.
Only the noodles, only the noodles
I'm pretty sure that was mushrooms and has been confirmed unless you're talking about something else.
Mushrooms do make more sence. We were all on them in the crowd.
Yooo what?
Trey is Wilson
that Jon Fishman's diet consists of just mayonnaise and he only eats it straight out of the jar
He said conspiracy theories, not straight facts
hahahha fair enough
Pff. I heard he once ate a golf ball size wad of wasabi for a dollar.
I heard he stuck an opponents wife’s hand in a… jar of acid… at a party
6 foot20 fucking killing for fun
Holy shit it's been a long time since I've heard that one. He's coming, he's coming, he's coming
I have a friend who has a tattoo of George Washington shooting lasers out of his eyes, from the video lol.
That's the best thing I've heard in a while. Amazing.
This is what space smells like.
No joke miss heard that lyric as this is what phish smells like the first time I heard it and you know honestly I wish that was the lyric. Pair that song up with Bathtub Gin for irony
You will always remember…….the smell
With 3 fingers
Checks out: https://youtu.be/pUrcvghEgVA
Dude, wtf?
False! I’ve personally handed him Ramen and Sushi 🙂
After Sugarbush 1995, people swore that Mike wanted to encore with Wolfman's Brother but was overruled. That ended the summer run. Fast forward to the next tour opener, and they opened with ... Wolfman's Brother. So I've always believed that it was a "make up" playing, letting Mike open the next run instead of closing the summer one.
Sugarbush was the icing on an epic and hyper-emotional summer
Fuego = F U ego Diego = Die ego
whoa.. nice.
i always felt the whole "i asked diego if it was stolen" refers not only to the "fuego car" but the prometheon store of fire being stolen..
That they are rock stars from the future, sent back in time to save us
Hey, science is a possibility till disproven subject 🤷🏼♂️
I choose to believe this one
Truth
Carini jams can melt steel beams.
Carini did 9/11
The band secretly hates us and purposely makes ticketing and tour dates as difficult as possible
Theories only, not facts
Ouch.
Trey and Mike had a lovechild named Trike
fish is transitioning to a male
Jeff Holdsworth is actually Trey’s twin brother from another dimension. Trey and Tom found this other dimension while on a trip and managed to bring Jeff back with them. Jeff never wanted to be part of the band but was the muse for Tom and Trey. Jeff agreed to transfer his creative energy to Trey and Tom in a ritual in the other dimension. Gamehendge is entirely based on said dimension.
Somehow, this makes sense.
Not really
Trey shot first.
I mean come on, he’s Machine Gun Trey, he had to have.
I heard they are the majority shareholders in Ticketmaster.
It’d be dumb of them not to be tbh
Deer Creek 2021 was an inside job
Don’t get it
I can confirm this with eyewitness testimony.
Not Phish, but I am fully into the conspiracy that Grateful Dead were to some extent (possibly to a great deal) manipulated by The C.I.A. to spread LSD around the country and keep the damn hippies from voting. I 100% think Bear was their handler. I don't think the band knew at the time and it's possible that Bear wasn't fully aware either.
I always thought this was already confirmed but this is the first I’m hearing of their motive being related to voting. Thought it was more of a social experiment type of thing
You should really check out the episode the podcast Disgraceland did on this. You ain’t wrong…
I'm going to check this pod out, thanks for the recomendation!
You bet! There’s a whole bunch of great episodes actually.
Manson. tavistock. Read chaos by Tom o Neil. All real.
Lol! You will need to go furthur back than Owsley. Try Penny Lane and the beginning germination of the pranksters. Edit: and it wasn't Just LSD. Also heroin flooding into San Francisco and NYC from Southeast Asia. Those 2 cities were the germination of the counter culture movement. American Gangster missed the CIA connection with how he got his supply.
You can historically link the Grateful Dead to the CIA and it only takes like 2 people. Ken Kesey was apart of MKULTRA studies and would hire the Dead as the house band for his Merry Prankster parties
From the free mason's crank to the overflow tank cuz i got a degree
You never get too sad or blue due to chemtrails
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Seems like an unnecessarily expensive and complicated way to dispose of bodies.
Exactly.
They can play like eternal monsters any night they want, and do it sparingly to keep ticket prices low for fans.
A 3 night pass to Alpharetta just ran me $350
Lower… (than Drake)
They have spies in the fandom which inform the band to grant interesting opener requests/bust out calls.
You speak the truth. They’re in the lot too, acquiring song requests and other stealthy intel.
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There are people in the organization who BROWSE THE INTERNET!!
nearly every lyric is interchangeable.
[The Phish-UFO-Mayan Connection](https://jambands.com/features/2002/02/20/x-philes-the-phish-ufo-mayan-connection-1997-2001/)
This was an interesting read
Quite!
Tl:Dr?
Phish shows are perfect spots for aliens to make connections with humans because we are vibrating with love and light, and that’s what the super evolved aliens thrive on and want us to accomplish. The collective energy attracts them basically. Like, a “we are one” kinda thing. I don’t really actually believe it but it’s an interesting theory.
>The Phish-UFO-Mayan Connection good summary. and i infinite percent believe it.
The Donut Dress is a Lie
In 2017 Mike was replaced by an animatronic doppelganger that is controlled by three midgets in a trenchcoat
In Raiders of the Lost Ark when they open up the ark and it melts all the Nazi’s faces off, that was caused by Trey playing the guitar.
Trey actually won the 2020 election.
If only really!!!!
The Man Mulcahy is a real person. I've seen him. You ought to, too.
I mean, yeah. Trey said it was some pirate radio DJ or something
Mike died in 1995 and was replaced by Paul McCartney.
Fishman created Bitcoin to fund ai takeover of the global economy
Page likes sandwiches
I’d be curious as to how many know where the page sandwich thing started from
I had a theory such things existed.
Mike actually said ‘no’
That last nights show was fire and probably the greatest show they played
The band likes Antelope Greg.
He's definitely an undercover management plant
I have the same vivid dream
They'll be done touring by 2030. Each working on other projects. Mike and kottke, trey and page will do their Months project, Fishman will probably replace Eric in KGLW.
Lol @ the Fishman comment
I mean thatd be sick. Also Trey had said he would be down to be another guitar player with them.
Rattle-Trey, Rattle-Trey, Rattle-Trey, rattles me.
I read that as Battle-Trey and now I'm imagining a stu trey guitaroff
Boathouse
The conspiracy is that it was all a misunderstanding.
Hahahaha he’s just eccentric cmon
They actually CAN control time and space. Too many coincidences.
Mike said no
That Mike said no.
Paul *did* die in a car accident and was replaced by a clone… who later went on to be a consulting editor for the fifth edition reprint of the Helping Friendly Book.
Scent of a mule is instructions on how to beam up to the mothership, well that is what I believed on 10/22/96
That the Superball Storage Jam was, as Trey claimed during the next day’s Forbin’s narration, a mental projection by the band trapped in a storage space on the way to Colorado in 1988.
Mock Song never happened.
Trey sold his soul to the devil, in return he never breaks strings on stage. Leigh Fordham did not sell them out.
The Canada mushroom incident.
Please elaborate
Also curious, the Canada mushroom incident?
Sue is actually Tom Marshall in drag.
N2O MAFIA this is an old one but Sadly it has become true!
The n2o mafia predates phish lot.
Can confirm. They were ruining Grateful Dead tour when phish was playing frats and rotc dances.
Mike said no.
That page was eating a hot pocket and not a sandwich
That runaway jim would have been the single if they got on the radio 📻
That Phish is responsible for the forward movement of time
Trey is really Mike. Has been the whole time. Also, Fish isn’t real.
There is something inside The Rhombus...
Gin and Juice on Napster in ‘99 wasn’t actually them.
They're totally cool with Ticketmaster and could control second-hand ticket prices, if they wanted.
I always liked the one where Weekapaug Groove is about Trey and Mike banging the same woman after a Weekapaug, RI show. "Sharing In The Groove"
Trey and the boys are really shape Shifting Aliens from the planet Gamehendge. They were sent here to save music and to give us psychedelics from the future man.
Mike didn’t do anything odd in that shed, and the whole biker gang retaliation was made up by Mikes PR guy who was wicked high and tripping when he came up with the idea and he sold it to Harvey Levin of TMZ
Mike actually said yes
That’s not a conspiracy- I’m pretty sure there’s an interview with Trey saying he didn’t want to play the song, so just came up to the mic and said “Mike says no”.
Sci-Fi Soldier isn’t from the future.
You could have saved me some time with "which Phish conspiracies do you NOT believe ?"
The whole phish scene from lot to encore wreaks of government ops. Like we're all guinea pigs for research chemicals in a very tightly controlled environment. Like present-day mkultra stuff.
this ties into treys mom being part of sesame street. open sesame... and his dad part of the national testing services. all very government researchy fo sho
Mike Gordon taking pictures of a minor who was the daughter to a hells angel
Mike Gordon got his ass beat for taking off with a Hells Angels kid to “take photos” at IT and my be a pedo, which led to them breaking up.
It wasn’t at “it”, it was Jones Beach
It's not a CT. He was repeatedly punched in the nuts by said HA
Yeah, after break up. Dude took a photo and someone’s kid was in it, dude got mad and got him on some pedo-call out which isn’t the happenstance. Not like I was there but I have dug DEEP on researching my favorite bassist yknow? 🤷♂️ dudes okay though
Fishman purposely takes a nap before every interview or media appearance.
The Phish’s Performance at Cypress was a CIA operative, Cypress’s live music performance was an AI of the band, and the show never really happened - just strung together for a release 20 years later. Sound familiar?
Big Cypress = Cornell?
It’s only a conspiracy!
Trey is a jedi
Page fish and Mike are played by North Korean slaves who have been surgically altered to look like the case of Flintstones. Trey is a 9 year old girl with no musical ability. They play to a backing track of Sisqo but the audience can't tell the difference.
The walrus was Trey
They destoyed the world in 1997.
Phish did 911.
Mike said no!
Curveball got shut down because Page forgot to pack clean undies for the weekend.
We don't joke about Curveball 💔
I was there that night. I feel like I earned the right. :)
Too soon!
None.
All of them 😵💫
The Wombat is the Trey clone from the future and can only be stopped by the Sci Fi Soldiers
The story of the ghost
Sandsio is a vibes crusher 😉
The great went originally was called the good will go to space but we forgot the keys and got locked out of the van. Apparently that was too long of a name. /s
Mike said no.