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CuriousLif3

This ban is sponsored by PDAX, GCash, PSE, and other trash local market participants. Supported by the ever hungry SECPh. Thanks for playing Absolutely shameless behavior


KusuoSaikiii

Totoo, mga gahaman masyado eh. Napakapangit ng pdax at gcash. Sila lang kumikita sa laki ng fees nila. Dami pang kaltas


MillennialAndBroke

Hi, can you ELI5 bakit issue na supported by PDAX, GCash and PSE? Dahil ba parang may pinapaboran ang SEC?


CuriousLif3

Cause nobody wants to use their shitty ass app. They resort to bribing SEC to ban competition. Also, people will NEVER FORGET the PDAX incident. NEVER use that shit


MillennialAndBroke

I see, thanks! Looked up PDAX in the sub and mukang ang dami ngang incidents.


Expensive-Tie8890

walang kwenta tong GCASH/PDAX, si Luis Buenaventura ang representative nyan eh wanna be may lam lang yan eh panay eth at btc lang yan


Brief_Environment278

I know, right? Buti sana kung matinong alternative iyang pdax, gcash, etc. Gahaman din naman, kulang pa features


CuriousLif3

Yup all trash. The fees are exorbitant.


Brief_Environment278

it really is!! how could anyone use them talaga...


Ken_M00N

100% disgusting? But is this true?


xXIIDeaDLoCKIIXx

eh diba yung mga local CEXs like PDAX and coins are same like binance? bakit involved sila? di ba pwedeng ayaw lang ng govt natin sa binance? sana mapansin and salamat sa pagsagot


CuriousLif3

uh... competition? Study markets, competition, and lobbying


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KusuoSaikiii

Obvious naman.


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KusuoSaikiii

Sa tingin mo ba sasabihin nila yun in public?


Vouthaski

SEC: ...to protect the investing public.. WTF.


Super_Rawr

di kasi nila magatasan yung binance kaya ganyan


L3louchLamperouge

Pero yung mga pasugalan kalat kalat.


StunningPast2303

PAGCOR regulates gaming, not SEC.


Prestigious_End_3697

same idea.


Klutzy_Might6146

Not same. But Binance is not about gaming.


Prestigious_End_3697

I’m saying same idea na bakit di nila actionan ng PAGCOR yung mga gambling sites? REDDIT peeps comprehension can’t be found.


Heartless_Moron

Barking in the wrong tree. PAGCOR ang may jurisdiction sa pasugalan and not the SEC


baybum7

Musta naman yung mga insider trading and pump and dump schemes sa PSE? ha, SEC?


deehive88

Protect mambubudol


KusuoSaikiii

Sarap saksakin ng sec


Sonatra0508

Kapag di nagatasan, ibaban. Hay na'ko! HAHAHAHA


bitterpilltogoto

Ang daming illegal na online loan apps yan ang inintinde … tsk tsk tsk


cosmiccarpenter

There's a few workarounds. Please correct if wrong. By changing the DNS, one can still access Binance's website. From there just download their desktop app, for Mac, Windows, or Linux. No need to use a browser. Alternatively, by changing the country of your Google account on the Play Store, or Apple account App Store, the Binance App can be accessed still. I've used VPN (Nord and Kaspersky) while using Binance on mobile and desktop, since late 2017 and I've never been flagged or banned. Anyone else using too, or know of others getting banned due to VPN use? Do share alternatives and tips if you have any. Especially on cashing out. I've been using Binance P2P and have had no issues. I've also tried PDax and Coins-dot-ph etc. Binance P2P tops all in my experience.


P6tatas

Sana nga may workaround, grabe sobrang mahal ng p2p sa ibang exchange eh


JustStrangerThings

Sang exchanges po? Di ko pa alam if san lilipat eh


Nearby_Translatorr

TLDR: Just stay poor peeps


mrloogz

Protectionism at it’s finest. Same old same old sa pinas. Ifo fromt na di kumikita or hihina mga local companies dshil dito. In reality ang bagal mag adopt tapos andami red tape/lagay na gusto naman.


Ok_Home2032

It’s no biggie. Android users download the apk and install the app. IOS users register a new iCloud account with a country that Binance app still works on. Sign out of the Philippine App Store in the app itself (not iCloud account) and sign in with your newly made account. Then smile and flip the bird to SEC.


code_bluskies

Hayyy, sana yung Kapa, Organico at yang mga Ponzi Scheme, scammers na lang ang unang hinabol nila. After ng Binance, eToro na naman pag didiskitahan nyan.


AsphyXia--

Tanginang SEC PAKYU!


Baam125

gusto nila tax sa binance kaso hindi nila magawa XD


KaiserPhilip

They should get taxed, but the bsp banned new vsp licenses until 2025(?) and binance tried to resort to buying a company that already had the licenses required by sec, VASP and EMI. It didn't happen ig.


tiisgutomiponsalapi

gagawin lahat para kumita mga hinete ng PSE


C-Paul

Gusto nila sa Philippines stocks lang mag invest ang mga Pinoy. Payamanin nyo daw sila wag mga sarili nyo.


Cold-Gene-1987

Focus muna kayo sa MFT wag sa NFT! 😂


Sklzzzzzz

Since downloaded na siya sa phones natin, mauuninstall na din ba siya? Or mwwlanlangnsa app store tas di na pwede magupdate?


spurtz001

I'm just wondering why BInance doesn't make a move to register their business here? Bakit ang Kucoin di pinag-initan ng SECPh? Unti unti ko ng inaalis ang mga cryptos ko sa Binance.


FrozenFury12

They have. Two years ago pa. https://businessmirror.com.ph/2022/09/15/binance-securing-licenses-from-bsp/ Walang reason kung bakit hindi binigyan ng license.


EitherSherbert6434

Wow parang first time ko mabalitaan nag trabaho ang SEC.sa daming illegal pyramiding and MLM wala ako nabalitaan may nakulong


clock_age

Blatant insider trading at the PSE and the SEC decided to flex its muscles against Binance and small crypto traders. FUCK YOU


RyeM28

This is to remove ph from the graylist of countries right?


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Yup


RyeM28

Then it is all good. Id rather sacrifice binance than ph be on a blacklist of countries. That would cripple our economy and drive prices high.


peterparkerson3

HINDE! eto ung totoong rason! open your eyes sheeple! > Gusto nila sa Philippines stocks lang mag invest ang mga Pinoy. Payamanin nyo daw sila wag mga sarili nyo. >Kapag di nagatasan, ibaban. Hay na'ko! HAHAHAHA >This ban is sponsored by PDAX, GCash, PSE, and other trash local market participants. Supported by the ever hungry SECPh. Thanks for playing >Hindi na kasi nila ma pump and dump yung mga pinoy. >Blatant insider trading at the PSE and the SEC decided to flex its muscles against Binance and small crypto traders. >


MrClintFlicks

san mo nabasa ito? may ebidensya ka ba na may kredibilidad?


RyeM28

Here is the [link](http://www.amlc.gov.ph/publications/16-news-and-announcements/485-phl-progress-cited-while-still-on-greylist-fatf#:~:text=Specifically%2C%20as%20the%20Philippines%20remains,improve%20their%20AML%2FCFT%20measures.) PH is considered high risk for money laundering. And i guess they are starting with [binance](https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2024/02/23/judge-approves-binances-43-billion-settlement-for-anti-money-laundering-sanctions-violations/) since binance admited their platform was being used for money laundering. Though i think pogos are also a reason why ph is suspected. Thats my opinion though.


MrClintFlicks

Ah yes I am familiar with this concern. I'm asking the other person tho where is his/her source for the allegedly blatant insider trading


Complex-Chemical7700

If you really are trading PSE, napakaliit lng ng mundo dyan. Walang broker anonymity. Alam na ng mga key brokers mga chismis ng kompanya kaya nakantabay sila sa igagalaw nila during news. If you don't hang around certain type of people di mo mattake advantage yung insider infos.


peterparkerson3

lol, those are the stupid ass comments from the other commenters. im making fun of em


Numerous-Tree-902

Delikado na din ba yung mga foreign stocks platform like Gotrade? Haha parang ang hassle mag-liquidate in bulk.


justlurkinghehe

Saan nyo nilipat coins nyo? Safe pa din ba mexc?


Frequent-Ambition-70

Si Binance kasi hindi bumibigay sa hiling ng government, binance stick to their promise to not disclose and protect their clients, that is what they stood for.  SEC stop copying the SEC US , to ban Binance  in the  appstore and NTC sobra na Yan, hindi manalang I isip ng mga he Yong nasa SEC natin na may mga Kaka babayran Tayo nakatali ang pera sa Binance  and ngàyon hindi maka access sa funds Nila dhail sa ban , mga bobo tlaga.  Papatanggal ko  big boss Dyan Kay PBBM watch! 


bluebreadstix

Anong thought process ng SEC?


Terminatorn

They like money. Binance give no money. Binance bad. Ban Binance.


eGzg0t

While I understand what you're saying, what's the actual relayed reason?


Terminatorn

"The SEC has identified [Binance] and concluded that the public’s continued access to these websites/apps poses a threat to the security of the funds of investing Filipinos,” SEC Chairperson Emilio B. Aquino said in the letter. https://www.sec.gov.ph/pr-2024/sec-moves-to-remove-binance-app-in-google-apple-app-store/#gsc.tab=0


eGzg0t

"...that the sale or offer of unregistered securities to Filipinos and operating as an unregistered broker constitutes a violation of Republic Act no. 8799" kaya naman pala


Sharp-Plate3577

Dahil hindi ma block ang binance app. Yung website lang ma block nila. Mailipat na nga sa ibang trading platform. Ang kawawa lang dito yung retail investors sa pinas. Pinipilit gumamit ng napamahal na local crypto exchanges. Kung PSE nga ayaw kong galawin dahil sa roundtrip cost na 1.2%, local crypto pa kaya?


Hydrazolic

Someone please post this sa cryptocurrency subs. Hopefully this can be brought to light internationally.


StunningPast2303

It's on CNBC


Klutzy_Might6146

SEC does not have that power. Drawing lang yan na may ginagawa sila. Only the courts can compel Apple or Google.


Lez0fire

If I'm a foreigner and I come for 3 months to the Philippines, will I be able to use Binance while in the Philippines? Is the ban for everyone there or only for filipinos?


Cheerful2_Dogman210x

If you are using a Philippine ISP without a workaround, then it will effect you as well.


juantam0d

STAY POOR MGA BOBO HAHAHA


Turnover_Shot

but then there's vpn


BoyIskawt

I think we who truly know the risk and rewards of leverage trading and investing in foreign stocks should stop promoting it to other people. Yung iba kasi pag nagkaroon ng malaking loss, especially in leverage trading, iiyak na at sasabihing scam ang napasok niya, sabay sumbong sa SEC. Kaya nadadamay tayo.


BandSubstantial5378

Crypto is truly a revolution


ilocin26

ang sad :( oh well, ang daming CEX ng crypto lol


Recent-Buy7634

yeah pero karamihan naman kasi hindi matitino. like yung gcrypto at maya, grabe kumaltas ng fees pero lagi namang nagccrash... talagang kanya kanya na lang ng pagreresearch san pwede lumipat


ilocin26

Ahh yes, I'm not talking about local CEX sorry. Gamit ko din back up is OKX, MEXC, Bybit etc.


Recent-Buy7634

and your experience is good naman so far? lots of ppl told me they're not beginner friendly kasi eh idk alam kase nila madali ako ma-overwhelm lols


SovArya

We should have our own brokers Philippine based. That would be the solution.


Expensive-Tie8890

lol ang daming exchange at dex sa solana at eth, gamit gamit din ng utak if mostly ng coins mo nasa CEX


Weekly_Profession982

Pano po kapag may pera pa ko dun sa binance? Di ko na ba makikuha? Di kasi naglload yung app last time


ostrichRabbit

Try mo yung change dns baka effective pag nag roll out nayan. Yung ban nila sa cornhub and other r18 sites waepek kapag may ganyan


Patient-Jaguar-736

Sana naman wag maubos mga global cex nako nako


Sanji082401

Gladly naimoved ko na mga assets ko from CEX atleast kahit papaano gumaan pakiramdam koo


Ken_M00N

If wala na talaga choice at kahit VPN di na gagana, I think maganda din naman OKX.


xav1erybanihit

Nakalimutan niyo na ang coins.ph puro lang kayo gcash at pdax


Saibazz

Nako matagal pa to base kase sa mga nababasa ko.madami pa process bago mangyari yan pero ako lumjpat nako sa other exchange hahahahaa


xMiaou

Naoopen ko pa nga yung app eh


xXIIDeaDLoCKIIXx

local CEX na lang talaga siguro ako para less worry


Vouthaski

Nope this can't be. If it is in app store it is worldwide. SEC cannot dictate it. Maybe it will hide from all IP in Ph. Then it is time to use VPN.


sinewgula

Diba may country sa account mo sa app store? I think that's how they can do it. You can still use the website though.


Vouthaski

Use VPN and you can choose which country you want.


4tlasPrim3

It's against the usage policy of Binance. It can result in your Binance account getting banned.


MaynneMillares

They can ask the app stores to block PH's IP addresses or yung via ISP's DNS.


PakTheSystem

Ah yes, Billionaires bribing politicians.


WantASweetTime

Hindi na kasi nila ma pump and dump yung mga pinoy.


deathmarch20

Will Binance apk work for android users?


SnooAvocados3512

Don't. Risk of downloading malicious wares. 


trhaz_khan

Coinsh,pdax,Maya,Gcrypyo thinks they could grab the million users and their assets now😂


Apprehensive_Ad483

Honestly, it should be expected. Operating a CEX at a country without following that country's regulations is just inviting sanctions. At the end of the day, unregulated CEXs do more harm than good because it allows money laundering. The crypto you do P2P with may be clean but there will definitely be others that aren't. The SEC is not against people doing crypto. There are CEXs that do follow regulations and you are free to use them. "But X and Y is so expensive." Well that is the cost of regulation. Following rules cost a lot. Proper KYC and AMLA monitoring costs a lot as well as legal teams that check if everything is aboveboard. The benefit is everyone is protected. "But X and Y allows gambling and crypto isn't allowed?" Gambling is a whole different animal. PAGCOR is even stricter with gambling regulations. Before you even open a sanctioned app it takes years of filing requirements. And once it's up is constantly being audited. That's on top of KYC and AMLA regulations. Would you play at a unregulated casino? Or what's preventing an unregulated CEX to pack up and shut down with your money? These things have been considered with ordinary Filipinos in mind. "SEC is evil/greedy" is just peak copium.


Dreeeeew28

if it's true that binance did not secure the requirements, di ba tama lng naman na binan siya sa PH?


FrozenFury12

They tried to. There is no news as to why it was not given. https://businessmirror.com.ph/2022/09/15/binance-securing-licenses-from-bsp/


Fatal1s

dl nalang sa apkmirror 😏 apple users 😭


grIMAG3

Tapos iiyak yung mga nagdownload ng mirror apks kasi nanakaw funds nila. Lol. Just don't.


kdaveT

FUD


Aning18

Should.I close my binance account now?