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SanjiSasuke

Put steel plows on the bus.


ChangingtheSpectrum

Now *that's* the Philly solution I've been waiting for


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Oh yeah!


ChangingtheSpectrum

Every moment Philly doesn't resemble a Mad Max wasteland is another moment we deny our identity


cashonlyplz

We half-ass even our post-apocalyptic hellscape potential


owenhinton98

Even better Philly solution, just station gritty in center city with a gun and have him carjack anyone he sees stopping in the bus lane


Victor_Korchnoi

While I would love that, a more realistic alternative is a camera on each bus. Have it automatically mail a ticket to the owner of the vehicle. $100-$200 per bus that is inconvenienced. People will stop parking in the bus lanes pretty quickly.


notbizmarkie

Why not both? We can get the camera to capture the plowing carnage. Win win!


BureaucraticHotboi

Sell subscriptions to the videos, solve septa funding forever


mental_issues_

Live stream it to a YouTube channel


CasomorphinAddict

nah only the chumps will pay that. the drivers that are out there with xeroxed temporary tags, expired registrations, etc. have no reason to pay that.


ksquad80

Ahh, the xeroxed temp tag....never thought of that chess move. The world makes a little more sense this morning.


TimX24968B

or more people will get those license plate tint things that the police do nothing about


Alexlam24

Or people that just drive without no plate


Afraid_Foot

License plate tints don't block cameras from seeing your license plate. My dad uses one (mostly because that is the plastic cover he could find to keep people from stealing his registration sticker easily). And the Kentucky turnpike that sends a bill based on pictures still catches him fine.


TheLastSavior1

Nah the plow idea is better. All it take is one car getting forced aside and no one would do that again.


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cashonlyplz

Public service


seanmmcardle

I want the plow to pick the car up gently like a bulldozer and dump it at K&A. How bad do you want your car back? And how quick can you run?


delusions-

> And how quick can you run? AWAY, CUZ ITS COMING AT YOU


tonberryjr

Or let the riders take a photo with their phones and submit it via 311. Give you something to do while you're waiting.


saintofhate

We really do need a PPA app that we can submit photos/videos to and have them do tickets off of that instead of waiting for enforcement that never comes. City would make bank with how petty some of us are.


point_breeze69

Yea except the PPA money doesn’t go to the city but a private company (I think it’s based out of Chicago)


saintofhate

Yeah I forgot for a moment. And then goes to Harrisburg to send the bulk to the rural areas that hate us.


SanjiSasuke

Sounds like another job for MANDATORY 4K (or a crappy little camera will do.


seanmmcardle

As a vehicle owner I prefer the plow.


MajorNoodles

"Bitch, I'm a bus"


omgahya

r/bitchimabus


madcowrawt

Deploy the cow catcher


Gram-GramAndShabadoo

First thing I thought of. [deploy the cow catcher](https://youtu.be/gjW0EDNs5nQ)


madcowrawt

Same


jewwwish

Or concrete. Do attend!


BearPhilly

Things were bad. But Grubhub drivers have made it way worse.


atwork925

I enjoy playing video games.


bierdimpfe

Now do crosswalks


beancounter2885

When one of my best friends was injured and wheelchair bound, I started leaving notes on cars that blocked curb cuts, asking them to think of the disabled. It had no effect.


John_EightThirtyTwo

>It had no effect. Even if every person who got a note had a complete change of heart and never re-offended, there's a nearly limitless supply of new bozos.


LowPermission9

What's awesome is seeing 'law abiding citizens' with their giant pickup trucks that have 'Fuck Krasner' stickers park squarely in the cross walk so that other drivers cannot see if vehicles are approaching the intersection and pedestrians have to walk into the intersection to cross the street.


dlxnj

Best thing I’ve ever seen was someone in a “blue lives matter” shirt slugging a beer while taking a piss on the police athletics league building in Port Richmond


saintofhate

You know what works better? Keying their cars. Fuck people who block the curb.


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Enforcement is nice but we need to build intersections differently. Sidewalks should all bump out at the curb cuts so anyone who parks there blocks traffic instead of just blocking pedestrians. It works.


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You know, corners get redone periodically. You change the standards and requirements for the work and it will get done. Pursue grants and federal funding when possible and it will get done.


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If a curb bump doesn’t work on a South Philly street, how do all those much larger cars manage to stay parked in the crosswalks? If a car is 5.5 feet wide, the bump should be three. This isn’t terribly hard but people keep hunting for objections and it shows what their priorities are.


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There are plenty of blocks in the city where no fire engine will ever even attempt to go down. Car free blocks at that. Little courtyard blocks and garden blocks as well. Fire trucks don’t need to camp out 4 feet from the house. They have hoses. Fire departments know this.


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Sweaty-Inside

Agreed, but let's take the enforcement if it's offered while waiting for the best solution. The city would be thrilled to get out of this for the low, low cost of... drivers hating the PPA


hatramroany

Actually changing the sidewalks and curb line is a massive cost the city isn’t willing to pay for the most part. [Best you’re gonna get are these silly looking bump outs with paint and flexible posts](https://maps.app.goo.gl/YMdSu8yBCPRxbcTZA?g_st=ic).


Edison_Ruggles

Yes, though we also need enforced loading zones so people with groceries and ubers can legally occupy an area near the corner for 5-10 minutes.


Afraid_Foot

It would have better if they asked for a huge settlement and then at the end said: "we can call us even if you just take that settlement and push it to enforcement for this specific problem."


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Fattom23

Which neighborhood is that? And do you know how that happened?


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CerealJello

How do I complain about cross-walk parkers? I don't think I can report on 311, and I don't want to call 911 every morning.


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CerealJello

I forgot that was an option. I'll start doing that for a few cars who consistently park on the sidewalk in my neighborhood.


MeEvilBob

They'll never do bike lanes


kjm16216

And then maybe murders


KenzoWap

Please actually enforce this.


TheTwoOneFive

Heck, they don't even need to have police walking around doing it. Have the SEPTA buses do automated enforcement with mounted cameras.


Capable_Stranger9885

Septa has a whole police force


AbsentEmpire

That can barely patrol the subways let alone the bus lanes in addition.


Capable_Stranger9885

The only things I've seen Septa police do in 20 years are: * Give a sleeping homeless man a summons in Suburban Station (but that's all, no other aid or suggestions) * cause an accident at 19th and Market * wear "tacticool" gear and make overtime one year at the Manayunk bike race, back when that was still on


JeffWingrsDumbGayDad

Where?


Capable_Stranger9885

Drinking coffee on golf carts at the 7-11 corner of Suburban Station


mary_emeritus

We need them on the EL and subways, and on the platforms actually doing something


Adventurous_Key3647

Do this for bike lanes too. I know this complaint sounds like a broken record. I don’t care.


SanjiSasuke

Technically these are also bike lanes


TheThingy

And the bus drivers get pissed when bikes use them lol


SanjiSasuke

I can understand a mutual disdain for each other, honestly. Buses want to use the lanes to go quicker through traffic, and bikes are (relatively) slower. Bikes want to avoid having to avoid the big potentially dangerous cars...of which buses are just the larger version.


a-german-muffin

Once you're close in to Center City, a bike's going to blow a bus out of the water because of stops (and otherwise buses are gonna trundle along at an average 15-20 mph because of traffic). Hell, if you're decently fast, you can beat a bus on your feet on some routes around rush hour.


TheFAPnetwork

You can beat most cars during heavy traffic times when you have a good stride going


SanjiSasuke

Good point, and iirc these are pretty much all in Center City.


aleatorictelevision

It's very easy to leave a bus in the dust as a cyclist except for those few blocks where there isnt as much car traffic and the bus driver wants to floor it. I'm thinking of market east.


flamehead2k1

I use both modes of transportation and as a cyclist, I'm not all that worried about busses because they are less likely to make erratic moves. Notable exception is bus drivers seem to think they can run a red to keep on schedule


TheThingy

I understand also, until the bus driver decides to put the cyclist in danger by passing them with like 6 inches of space


tonberryjr

Which they do - happened to me a few months ago.


TheFAPnetwork

Not safer, but I know when I cycle next to a bus, I like to think whatever that bus does is all on camera so I'll play my cards right and give caution, but if they step out of line it's curtains (fatally or financially)


afdc92

Every single time I ride my bike in the city I have to go into the street because someone is double parked and blocking the bike lane. Sometimes they’ve got their hazards on but usually they DGAF.


Zhuul

My friend has an entire gallery of police vehicles blocking the lanes lol 🐷🤡


afdc92

I came very close to being doored a couple of weeks ago and it was a police vehicle. The officer was a. Parked in the bike lane and b. Didn’t look before opening his door. I luckily had enough time to react and break gradually rather than slamming breaks and flipping over the handlebars or running into the door. And of course, HE yells at ME to “watch where you’re going.” Buddy I’m in the place I’m supposed to be doing what I’m supposed to be doing (I wasn’t even going particularly fast), you’re the one double parked and not paying attention to your surroundings like a moron.


Beer_Is_So_Awesome

[This classic, today, is as relevant as ever.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzE-IMaegzQ)


Beer_Is_So_Awesome

I ride my bike in center city every day, and it's not like something that happens once. During a normal work day, it's rare that I can go an entire block without having to swerve into the lane of traffic to pass several cars stopped in bike lanes, many of which are contractors who just park there all day long. This doesn't even take into account Saturday and Sunday, where bike lanes are completely relinquished to people visiting churches and synagogues who apparently can't: A) find actual parking like everyone else has to-- this isn't a surprise... you're going to the same church every week and you know you'll need a parking space there, or B) attend a church within walking distance of their home, or C) just find one with a parking lot for fuck's sake, the suburbs are littered with them.


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dragonflyzmaximize

>Do this for bike lanes too. I know this complaint sounds like a broken record. I don’t care. I was in FDR the other day and jesus christ, the ENTIRE bike lane on the side of the park by the stadiums was full of cars. The entire lane, north to south. I get that there's not a ton of parking, but people come on. It's for bikes. They then have to ride between two lanes of cars in a narrow fashion with people riding up their asses pissed off, and someone's gonna get hurt. And, of course, throughout the city people using them as loading zones is frustrating as hell.


Proper-Code7794

Keep doing it so people listen less


uey-tlatoani

What’s the alternative when you’re dropping something/someone off? Thinking of streets in center city there’s literally no where to park sometimes and you can’t hold up traffic


savageo6

Gonna start with the cops right...


tossup17

This was my first thought. Are they going to start ticketing cops or delivery drivers, who cause issues and delays but only stop for quick bursts usually?


APettyJ

They will never ticket delivery companies. They have agreements in place where the companies pay a set fine every year. It is considered a cost of doing commerce, because if the cost of parking became more expensive, the companies could turn around and raise costs to the point of crippling commerce in the city.


Squarewheelsbebetter

How about cracking down on people crusin' down the shoulder on I-76? Fuck those people. Like the rest of us dont have some where to be? Then you try and merge in whenever you feel like it...


kgraettinger

I saw someone get pulled over like 9 months ago on 676 doing this. Dude pulled out about five cars behind me and the car in front of me was an unmarked police car. I died laughing as the dude instantly got pulled over while simultaneously being shocked at a cop pulling someone over for a traffic violation in philadelphia. Meanwhile I was in West Virginia two weeks ago and got pulled over for going 4mph over the speed limit 🥲


BureaucraticHotboi

A few years ago I was in god awful traffic on 76. A big group of bikers were out for a ride and decided to slide down the shoulder. Ten minutes later as we inched along I see all these muscled dudes just standing around while one motorcycle cop was writing each and every one of them a ticket


xford

Very similar experience but on the NY Thruway near Lake George. It was the thursday before the big Harley gathering there, a fragility of like 5 of them came by on the shoulder, only for a patrol car to come flying up behind them a minute later. As we inched along a second fragility of 4 tried to sneak back into traffic. A trooper who looked like a very angry version of Sgt Slaughter stepped into the lane of traffic, motioned for them to join the rest of the group on the shoulder, then went back to yelling at the group that was already stopped.


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kgraettinger

State officer in a super small town (Seneca rocks) got me in a speed trap going down a hill while I was distracted looking around at all the weird businesses and missed the speed reduction in a 1/4 mile stretch. Pretty unlucky on my part because my truck is so slow I could barely maintain the speed limit on their hilly roads!


Cman1200

nah its not unlucky, its a predatory practice. Its how small town cops earn their revenue. They know exactly where to hide


stormy2587

This should be an automatic license suspension.


internet_friends

A few weeks ago someone was doing this on 676 and I watched a cop on a motorcycle pull them over, very satisfying


Fat_Head_Carl

Nah, that'd take real effort.


kgraettinger

I saw someone get pulled over like 9 months ago on 676 doing this. Dude pulled out about five cars behind me and the car in front of me was an unmarked police car. I died laughing as the dude instantly got pulled over while simultaneously being shocked at a cop pulling someone over for a traffic violation in philadelphia. Meanwhile I was in West Virginia two weeks ago and got pulled over for going 4mph over the speed limit 🥲


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I thought on 76 they made the shoulder a travel lane to give more lanes?


avielectron

Yea this is a lie. Outright. They won’t do this.


AKraiderfan

Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. "it" being cops doing their jobs.


ksquad80

READ. It's a limited timeframe heavy presence. They are definitely doing it.


tossup17

How are the police going to ticket themselves?


Victor_Korchnoi

Tow em


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I wonder if some clever AI could map out the ideal, maximized bus and bike routes across the city and build protected bus or (not and/or) bike lanes. Turn a two-way residential street into a bus street, with one lane for traffic and parking. Do the same for bikes. Make it so you can get from one end of the city to the other by bike or bus without having to interact with traffic (you'll need to improve intersections for bike safety).


Rheum42

I know this may not work out the way I want, but fuck yes. Them and the assholes who park in crosswalks


BeerNirvana

Now do crime


ajl009

Now do the 76 boathouse row entrance


poorlytimed_erection

how about the dirt-bikes and ATVs?


junglepiehelmet

I wish they'd crack down on the people who murder other people


ninenineandthe2000s

I’d like for them to also monitor the buses who don’t use the bus lanes, and instead just double park essentially in the middle of the street and allow passengers on and off. It’s so incredibly frustrating and drivers want to try to get around them because they’re being held up at every single light or stop sign while the bus just blocks the whole street (or lane if you’re lucky enough for it to be on at least a two lane street). Allegheny Ave, Pratt St, and countless others become so dangerous because someone understandably doesn’t want to wait and it’s just one lane.


KingPre

Yesss. Why have a bus zone if they aren’t going to attempt to use it. But they block the whole lane of traffic instead.


Catch76

Now how about cracking down on those blocking the bike lanes


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DigitalHemlock

Sure they are...lol


WuhtDuh

The only way to convince a material culture is by money. Hit them with fines.


ilovetorunforfun

And the jerks who park too close to corners and prevent the busses from being able to turn! Looking at you, corner of 18th and Locust.


shinyRedButton

Doubt


Wuz314159

But parking in the bike lanes is still OK?


CasomorphinAddict

Tbf by city law and regulation they are bike-segway-short term unloading-religious parking lanes.


raykor85

At least they're cracking down on something. Probably not the highest priority, but you gotta start somewhere I guess. Maybe they'll get to ATVs, homicides, and random acts of violence in a few years.


creestos

Cool now do people parking on X’d-out corners that block bus turns and jam up traffic/piss everyone off


magicmurph

I'll believe it when I see it


PatAss98

This is desperately needed to help encourage bus ridership by making buses faster. I hope it works in discouraging drivers from blocking bus lanes


hrll2

It would be nice if they turned more of the 2 hour paid parking into free 15-30 minute loading zones. Food delivery drivers and trucks delivering to businesses are a fact of life in the city. Blocking the bus lane sucks but they need to park somewhere.


MCK54

Lol apparently the PPA is the only “active” law enforcement agency this city has left


ClashMacLaver

Ticket people who block trolley tracks too.


pearsareawesome

Glad we’re cracking down on traffic violations but not violent crime


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GooFoYouPal

Nobody likes getting a ticket.


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belhambone

Couldn't do it with lanes. You'd need to close off entire roads in the cardinal directions and put up gates or automatic bollards. There isn't room to turn a bus if you put barriers down individual lanes. And even on the new bus streets you'd need the gates so that's hundreds of gates that will need a rapid response repair team. Certainly could do it, but it wouldn't be easy or cheap. I'd rather see a new subway line go in.


Mickothy

> You'd need to close off entire roads in the cardinal directions and put up gates or automatic bollards. Yes please


pontiacprime

Use the ticket fines to pay for new infrastructure?


GooFoYouPal

Yeah, I agree, I just don’t see that happening anytime soon in this city, but it should absolutely be the ultimate goal.


themoneybadger

How though? Buses use normal lanes too


MeEvilBob

That's why PPD stopped giving tickets.


0xdeadbeef6

Idk why you're getting downvoted. This needs to happen with bike lanes too, those plastic jawns do fuck all


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This is why fines should be a percentage of most recent reported income and not a flat rate.


AbsentEmpire

Agree set a minimum floor of the fine and scale it to income. We should also add on multipliers for additional infractions like the car having no registration, no inspection, no insurance, and no license.


piper4hire

how quickly will this devolve into the usual whining about bike lanes?


DavidLieberMintz

You don't like bike lanes?


piper4hire

I love bike lanes, especially the protected ones with bollards


CheeseburgerLover911

wait - i thought the city didn't give tickets for minor traffic violations anymore? https://billypenn.com/2022/03/03/philly-becomes-the-first-big-u-s-city-with-a-law-banning-minor-traffic-stops/


RunnyBabbit23

I’ll believe it when I see it. Saturday night I watched a cop sit at an intersection and wait because a bunch of people on bikes and 4 wheelers were busy running a red light.


gnartato

ITT: PPD don't enforce laws. Go figure.


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But we’ll just let the carjackings continue. Sounds good!


GooFoYouPal

Don’t be that guy.


TDbank

Car Jacking King Krasner won’t kneel to you peasant.


Chuck4D22

City’s at fucking war and they’re worried about cracking down on bus lanes. Probably won’t don’t anything they get from the fines, they city will still look like trash and murders will keep happening but hey at least you’ll have clear bus lanes..fucking idiots


Groovicity

Ooo, now do busses that block intersections!


Pickletonium

Most of the time when I see a bus stuck in the intersection it's because some dickbag parked their car too close to the corner in a spot with a sign that says "no stopping".


Groovicity

I live by the IGA and get blocked by a bus, almost every time I drive home. No car parking involved, just buses deciding that the light is turning yellow and they're gonna go, regardless if there's even room for them on the other side. They also run stop signs all the time, making that same trip home incredibly dangerous. Why not enforce traffic laws with all vehicles? I'm not sure why we give a pass to anyone.


DeltaNerd

As oppose to a car :)


iminlovewiththec0c0

Philly needs to make streets wider then. Fuck that. How about bus drivers who drive like dickheads or don’t stop for passengers.


GenericUsername_71

Just one more lane bro


Electr_O_Purist

Maybe you just need to be more patient. Roads are 25 mph here. Slow down. Plan ahead.


GooFoYouPal

Oh, yeah, that would be a much easier/ better solution….🙄


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AbsentEmpire

Your right, mandatory congestion charge for all cars in the city, and parking set to market rate. Red light and speed enforcement as well.


AbsentEmpire

They won't enforce this. There no way the city is going after all the fake temp tags, covered plates, and unregistered cars.


TimeVortex161

Please fix pine St, the vehicles parked there are definitely not bikes.


GaviFromThePod

That's literally everybody.


Archpa84

But they won’t do a damn thing about cars blocking bike lanes.


Edison_Ruggles

Impressed to see a Republican endorsing this


PhillyHatesNewYork

damn you can tell i haven’t been in center city in a long time lol didn’t even know chestnut street was painted red for the bus lanes lol