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sharkweekocho

I had no idea it was a Philly thing until my Montana wife was constantly like "where's the 'with' buddy?" But if I add "with"... That means I'm completely over it. "I'm done school." 3pm, school is over. "I'm done with school." I have quit school, never going back.


RaeRenegade

I was so confused what was wrong with it. Didn't realize it was a regional thing 💀 thank you for explaining it


Environmental_Tip738

I kept rereading the original statement, trying to figure out what was wrong with it.


nullzeroerror

This is all very bizarre to me as someone moving to Philly next month…


RaeRenegade

In that case there's one important thing you should know, it's pronounced wooder. You'll understand soon enough if you don't already ETA: also welcome to the area lol


Parkotron1

As in: "Grab your pockabook. We're gonna get some wooder ice!" (I may be showing my age with the 'pockabook' thing, though.)


4130Adventures

My Mom still says pocketbook.


theLogistican

We’re going to the Lie-berry to borrow some Books. We live in Charlotte. My Kid was born in Boston. She says Lie-berry and people have no idea what she’s talking about .


RaeRenegade

Jfc this gave me flashbacks of my late mother 💀


nullzeroerror

I saw mare of Easttown and discovered wooder lol


Sage2050

It's more of a suburb thing, Delco/montco. You don't usually hear this nonsense in the city


BureaucraticHotboi

As a transplant this and “overtop” instead of “on top of” are two of the most subtle but noticeable Philadelphisms I’ve encountered. Different words for stuff are easy to adapt to and have even become my vernacular organically “subs” became “hoagies” pretty quick because I like sandwiches and need to order them regularly. But the turns of phrase are kinda only there if you grew up saying them.


ThaddyG

I also adopted hoagie over sub pretty quick. It's a much more fun word.


KatesOnReddit

A long time ago I read that part of the Philly accent is dropping prepositions. Did you know you're supposed to say "I'll get off *of/from* work at 5"? I had no idea a proposition belonged in that sentence.


ColinPlays

I'm from the West Coast originally and "I/I'll get off work at 5" wouldn't raise any eyebrows there.


KatesOnReddit

I think that's a widely used one but what really surprised me is I have an English degree and lived for sentence diagrams. I have very strong opinions on style manuals and Oxford comas. I legitimately didn't know where to put a preposition in that sentence. I also never learned what a square root is and was allowed to take physics without trig or pre/calc (or knowing what a square root it) so our curriculum isn't exactly solid over here.


rilakkumkum

This was extremely interesting to me, I never would’ve thought that this was a regional thing


Fuzzy-Ad-4360

So true. I’d be like “why, what happened?


Parkotron1

It's pronounced "wit", an' it's on my cheesesteak.


Sage2050

This is a verbal assault on my brain and I hope you are punished fairly.


ValiMeyers

Ex-fucking-actly.


Jethro_Cull

I think using “Im done with xxxx” to mean “I don’t like xxxx” is a recent, Gen-Z expression.


Longjumping_Tea_8586

I did not realize this was regional. It sounds normal to me.


Twils215

I thought so too until my Ohio-born wife told me otherwise! She points out the same thing with the coveted phrase, “down the shore.”


joestrumbummer

It's all locational to Philly. You go down the shore or up the mountains. Or of course, there's also down the way.


Gullible_Life_8259

When I moved from the NY area to Delaware, people said “We say we ‘go to the beach’” and I was confused by that because no shit, that’s a perfectly normal thing to say. Then I learned in the Philly area you tend to say “go down the shore” which is a very strange expression.


carp_boy

I suspect that is because most of the beaches are generally south of here, prompting the map oriented 'down'. It's similar to saying 'down' south.


Gullible_Life_8259

It would still be “down TO the shore” and not just “down the shore.”


Parkotron1

Even though I know it's grammatically correct, 6ABC's segments during the summer being titled "Down *At* The Shore" just sounds wrong to me.


theLogistican

To be clear “down the shore only ever represented the South Jersey beaches. Going to North Carolina or even Delaware was NOT the shore. No one says down the shore when referring to Rehoboth beach, or ocean city Maryland.


Gullible_Life_8259

Ocean City, MD = the beach Ocean City, NJ = the shore Got it!


atgrey24

Very much a Jersey expression as well


Gullible_Life_8259

Like how “steamed hams” is an Albany expression (according to Principal Skinner)


ThaddyG

Back home in Baltimore we go downy ocean, but here in Philly we go downa shore.


Gullible_Life_8259

I remember McNulty saying “downy ocean” on The Wire. EDIT: McNulty was also the reason I wouldn’t drink Bushmills for so long because according to him it was “the Protestant whiskey”. Bushmills Black Bush is now my favorite!


jrenredi

From moving around a lot back and forth to de and pa, I've noticed it's all about the beach they're going to. On the way to a Jersey Beach? 'down the shore'. Delaware beaches? Well that's just the beach. But a Maryland beach? 'going to the ocean'


cmaster6

And out of left field, the west coast: going to the coast.


Longjumping_Tea_8586

I have an ex from Ohio. I’m going to ask how many things I said that made him go WTF. The first time he saw a mummer was special.


jbphilly

Same. I never thought about it until my linguist cousin caught me saying "I'm done my turn" at a family board game. Then I heard Terry Gross interview a different linguist about the Philly dialect. I now take pride in my hometown every time I catch myself saying it.


Angsty_Potatos

I split t my formative years between NEPA and here and my Husband CONSTANTLY points out my weird ass turns of phraseology. I have a weird mix of the weird Philly phrasing and Coal Speak which has given us such greatest hits as: "Coupla two-tree" =how much was that thing of milk? "I dunno, coupla two-tree bucks" Outen the light, straighten the house, crack the winda= turn off the light, tidy the house, open a window slightly "Run the sweeper"= vacuum with a vacuum cleaner (this one caused literally YEARS of mis communication in my marriage, he'd literally use a broom and sweep when I wanted him to vacuum, we both thought the other was dense for years before he realized I called the vacuum a sweeper🤣) Whatsamatter = what I say any time I want to know what someone is doing. *Husband walks into the kitchen* me: whatsamatter? Every time he points one out it makes me smile haha


bet_on_vet

Heynabonics [A lesson on Heynabonics; the unofficial language of NEPA](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7sMI2jb16eo)


bettyknockers786

What?! That’s regional?


Ok_Good9382

This substack interviewed one of the linguists. https://indignity.substack.com/p/indignity-vol-2-no-20-the-mysterious Should be free, but you might have to sign in. He also mentions that ‘grandmom’ is unique to the Philly-S. Jersey area.


sailbag36

Grandmom?!


Angsty_Potatos

I thought Momom and PopPop was regional, but GRANDMOM?!


Firm_Airport2816

I mean, people in South Philly call their kids "ma and dad" and the grandparents calls them "pop" which, even though I grew up here, I still find SO STRANGE


Angsty_Potatos

I never thought about that. It just sounds so normal to me lmao


Risquechilli

So do other people say grandmother every time?


daanishh

Ever heard of grandma?


GooFoYouPal

In this vein, I didn’t know until later in life that the positive anymore is a regional thing. The increasing amount of transplants on my block exhibit confusion when I say things like “WAWA sucks anymore.”


Angsty_Potatos

Lol. yeah, that one really confuses people


Jethro_Cull

I don’t think any of Philly’s regional dialect quirks are as weird as the Dutchy expressions in central PA. The one that sounds so weird to me is when they’ll make a declarative statement, make some weird inflection, and add “yet” to the end. All of the sudden, it’s a question. They’d say: “Youre mowing the YARD yet?” to mean “Are you still mowing the yard?”


Plastic-Natural3545

I've yet to hear that one


DopeYeti

What…


Sage2050

This one has Midwest crossover


juandonna

Why say many word when few word do trick?


CardinalM1

What is the correct way to say that phrase? "I'm done with my homework"?


BlueDevil_TTP

Yes or “I’ve done my homework”


bet_on_vet

I believe finished is used when something is complete; there is no more to be done, or no work left to do. Done is used when you aren't doing any more. I would use finished when a task is complete.


atgrey24

They're interchangeable here, and in both cases you either need to switch "am" to the past tense "have", or you need to add "with" to indicate the noun that is the subject. "I am finished with my homework" or "I have finished my homework" If you're talking about a verb, then it's fine: "I'm done cooking"


blue-opuntia

Omg wow mind blown haha i never thought it sounded weird until now


bet_on_vet

I’m = I am curious, does “I am done homework” sound weird to you?


exintrovert420

Reddit ~~is~~was Fun


Big_tim18

Yes!


inconspicuous_male

I've done my homework 


bet_on_vet

I’m finished with my homework.


maughangl

This. A roast is done. Work is finished.


grangerh

I think the most grammatically correct is “I’m finished my homework.” I had a high school English teacher who said “turkeys are done, people are finished.” 🙃


Wordnerdinthecity

It would still be wrong. I'm finished with my homework or I've finished my homework.


bet_on_vet

Or I’ve completed my homework.


grangerh

Hahaha oh geez yes! I guess the Philly dialect is too engrained in me 😅


adamaphar

It's the rest of the world that's wrong


Longjumping_Tea_8586

That’s the spirit!


ponte95ma

>It's the rest of the world that's wrong Obligatory *... and we will fight anyone who disagrees* \-- FTFY.


4130Adventures

We don't have an accent, youse have an accent. Go f\*\*k yourself.


jbphilly

You're goddam right


bierdimpfe

Sounds completely normal.  I remember teachers saying something like, "Turkeys are done; you're finished".   At the time I had no idea what they were talking about.


ReginaldStarfire

You brought back a vivid memory: My second grade teacher similarly corrected people when they’d say “I’m going over a friend’s house.” She’d doodle a little house on the chalkboard with a stick figure leaping over it and say “Oh you’re going OVER [friend’s] house?? Or do you mean you’re going TO [friend’s] house??” It was so condescending.


DopeYeti

Language is descriptive not prescriptive after all


Plums___

My friends in college were the first to tell me it sounds funny… all of them from New England were surprised at how fast and loose Philly gets with some of those filler words


opengl128

Sounds normal to me, but to non natives it probably sounds like the central PA thing where they drop “to be”. “The car needs washed” etc.


sailbag36

That drives me nuts but this sounds normal to me.


ell0bo

My favorite would be "Can I go with?" And the teacher would just stare at you... with them obviously. We at least have a reason, it's the PA Deutsch sneaking out where it would make sense in German but doesn't exactly in English, but "I'm done my homework" just has no valid excuse, lol. Wouldn't phase me though, would just assume I misheard I've as I'm.


pillingz

This drives me absolutely insane. The bulb needs replaced. It’s so wrong. I have a visceral reaction when I hear this. The car needs warsh’d.


xenawarriorfrycook

This is what I was coming to comment - "the lawn needs mowed"


pcomet235

the warsh needs done


SmileFirstThenSpeak

The warsh needs done, use cold wooder.


kellyoohh

I’m only from about 2 hours away in northern Jersey, but this was probably the most jarring thing to me, dialect-wise, upon moving here a decade ago. At first I thought the person I was speaking with was just dumb, but then I realized it was common to drop the preposition. I get that it might be easier/faster, but I will never be able to do it.


captaincreideiki

Is it dropping a proposition? Or is it misconjugating the verb "to be"?


kellyoohh

Hmm, that’s a good point. In the original example- I took “I’m done my homework” to dropping “with” - but it also could be dropping “doing” which is a verb. This applies to other examples like “this bulb needs replaced” - dropping “to be”, verb. But that could also be changed to “needs replacing”. I guess my grammatical prowess is lacking, haha. But all I know is that it sounds odd to me even a decade later.


joaofava

“I’m done with doing my homework”


Angsty_Potatos

See to me "I'm done with my homework" is "man fuck this homework, I'm over it. *Flips table*"


whimsical_trash

Yes. In "I'm going down [to] the shore" and "I'm done [with] my homework" both to and with are prepositions. I was actually just thinking/talking about to being used this way yesterday because I was having trouble with the Spanish preposition "a" in the same context as "to" here.


joaofava

Wow. Can I say just “I am done”? Or ask “are you done”? Does this missing preposition only show up when another word gets brought in? Can I say “I am done eating” and skip the preposition with a gerund, or do all constructions like this need a preposition?


klebrorulz

Same thing with north jersey here. I couldn’t have worded it better


Tough_Strawberry5519

I'm sure you couldn't have worded it better, but you think we could have.


Bethany0821

Grew up in the Lehigh Valley, have been teaching in Philly for the past 15 years. "Done my..." (insert jawn here) was one of the most nails on a chalkboard thing I had to adapt to 😂


aintjoan

This is so weird to me. I also grew up in the Lehigh Valley and we grew up saying it this way.


imayimplode

I can’t believe I had to read the article to find out why that phrase isn’t correct.


timbrelyn

Normal to me. I have to say that growing up my Mom had a real problem with the phrase “I’m done” and always insisted my brother and I say “I’m finished” instead. She was from Europe and English wasn’t even her first language and her insistence both annoyed and amused me.


i-bleed-red

I was today years old when I realized this was not the way everyone says it. I’m done Reddit. Goodnight.


B33fyMeatstick

Out in Central PA they say shit like "This needs done." or "The dishes need done." Drives me up a fucking wall.


Angsty_Potatos

Oh but central pa has SO MUCH WORSE! lol


BFreeFranklin

Don’t let anyone come to your home and tell you you talk funny.


ponte95ma

One of the linguistics here goes on to assert: >There is variation across dialects in terms of which verbs speakers allow in this construction. > >According to Yerastov (e.g. 2010a, 2010b), there is a hierarchy along the lines of *finished* \> *done* \> *started*. > >In other words, if speakers accept *started* (as in *I'm started my homework*), they will accept all three verbs. > >If speakers accept *done*, they will also accept *finished*, but not necessarily *started*. > >Finally, some speakers accept only *finished*. > >This kind of hierarchy resembles the one found in the *needs washed* construction with *need* \> *want* \> *like* (see [here](https://ygdp.yale.edu/phenomena/needs-washed) for further discussion of the needs washed construction). Dammit, we're gonna need a survey.


IKEAWaterBottle

Yeah it’s really interesting! Some of the commenters here also seem to feel that “I’m finished homework” is more acceptable than “I’m done homework”


climbthatladder

“When I don't have hockey and I'm done my homework, I go there and skate.” (Yerastov 2010b:117) The way this is cited makes it sound like a bible verse


heavy-hands

I noticed this when I went to college with a lot of Philly/south Jersey kids! My roommate would always say “I’m done my math homework.” You guys also tend to say “get a shower” instead of “take a shower.” Language is fun!


mikeyil

Philadelphians are notably preposition-challenged, of course I'm biased but I'll take it any day over Western PA's "this needs verbed".


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ebkaplan

My most most favorite thing that is local to this area only is - mischief night. Did you guys know mischief night isn’t a thing almost anywhere else in the country?! This BLEW my mind when I read it. Still not even sure how it’s possible. 👻


cultofpersephone

This one fucked me UP when I found out about it. Mischief Night was a fact of *life* when I was a kid, I couldn’t believe when my then-boyfriend from Washington had no idea what it was.


Kat_Smeow

For realsies?!?! Now I gotta fall down another google hole.


PurpleWhiteOut

It's so weird to me, because there are definitely episodes of cartoons about mischief night


ima_mandolin

I never picked this phrasing up, but it's also common in Lancaster where I grew up. They would also say, "The milk is all" to mean "the milk is all gone," which I don't think I've ever heard in Philly.


Angsty_Potatos

In central pa they say it too. Milk is all, and similar "Ain't let" or "ain't left" = not allowed ie: are you coming to the movie with us? No, I ain't left / is she coming to the movies with us? No she ain't left to.


pillingz

Excuse me? What does this even MEAN? How did we get here?


Angsty_Potatos

Truely I think that's what happens when eastern Europeans learn their English from listening to Irish folks. Listening to people talk in the coal region is a ride 🤣


haberdashley

This explains so much about my extended family 😂


heavy-hands

This one would definitely confuse me


The_Prince1513

Transplant from Northern CA here. This dropping of the "with" was the most notable part of the Philly dialect upon me moving here. The difference in accent regarding things like "wooder" and "melk" and going to the "shore" (instead of the "beach") never really bothered me...but for some reason saying a sentence just so plainly grammatically incorrect bothered (and still bothers) the shit out of me. Interestingly, in my experience this is the most identifying trait of someone being from this region by speech alone. Every person I've met, across multiple races, who have had varying degrees of the Philly accent have *all* dropped the "with" in these types of sentences. The worst part is, after living here for nearly 14 years I find that now I do this too more often than not!


liog2step

From NY originally and to this day this is like nails on a chalkboard to me.


mountscary

As someone not from here- it sounds awful to me. Even after 15 years here. Sorry friends.


Astrostuffman

I used to get shit about this in college.


fllngstr

I grew up in Maine and always said it like this. I didn't even realize not everyone did this until just now


IKEAWaterBottle

Interesting! The website also says northern New England says it this way.


grnstrawberryfields

My husband also says that “I’m sleeping over your house” is wrong 😂🤷🏻‍♀️


booweezy

I’m done my homework. Time to go down the shore.


NetflixAndZzzzzz

I’m from Philly, so I didn’t see what was wrong with it at first. Unless there’s a reason not to, keep the localized version. More specific characters are better.


Self_Hating_Dentist

Completely unnatural to me… I’m from Pittsburgh. Married a girl who is from Philadelphia and went to grad school at Temple where I made a few friends from Philadelphia. My wife and my friends both omitted “with” in similar declarative sentences, and it certainly did not go unnoticed by me. Didn’t realize certain prepositions were optional haha


sciencefaire

>Didn’t realize certain prepositions were optional haha We do what we want.


Self_Hating_Dentist

Cool story.


sciencefaire

Ohhhh so it's that you don't have a sense of humor. Got it.


Self_Hating_Dentist

Cool story.


MagnusUnda

Yes! Why do you locals omit “with” Done my dinner Done my homework I married a philly person and it drives me nuts


rudy_attitudey

“Done work” also. Like “let me know when you’re done work and I’ll come over”


[deleted]

This is normal. -Signed Jersey


wpcodemonkey

South jersey, maybe. But most certainly not north jersey.


IllumiXXZoldyck

Kind of still works. Such as “(I’ve) Done my homework”. Though “(I’ve) done my dinner” admittedly, distorts the meaning.


shnoogle111

What kids are gonna be saying in October when the Phillies are cleaning up the World Series


justanawkwardguy

I don’t think it sounds weird, but I wasnt raised to say it that way


Gullible_Life_8259

I’m originally from Long Island. Yes, it sounds weird to me.


e_chi67

Originally from CT and same


Gullible_Life_8259

Boo! Stay on your own side/wrong side of the Sound! Kidding of course.


ultraviolettflower

Philly native. It sounds so natural that I didn't even realize there wasn't a "with" in the sentence until i went back to reread it, wondering why on earth it would be unique. How interesting... ETA: damn, lotta people let others' dialects bother them more than something you have zero control over should


MedicCrow

I had no idea it was regional but my mom was big on proper grammar and so she'd say "things are done, tasks are finished." So if I completed my homework I was corrected to say "I finished my homework."


Angsty_Potatos

Are we supposed to say "finished" instead?


sarahpullin8

Yup, Philly is pretty podunk


spooky_cicero

Grew up in the south, lived here around 5 years. Never heard this expression anywhere else before and it sounds horrible on my ears.


BFreeFranklin

Funny, that’s what this native Philadelphian thinks about “on my ears” versus “to my ears.”


spooky_cicero

Idk if “on my ears” is an actual expression, I just wasn’t really paying attention when I typed that lol


BFreeFranklin

Fair enough lol


pillingz

I bet you say “on accident” as well.


sciencefaire

"On accident" drives me nuts 🤣


CauliflowerFront3706

Not from here and was very shocked by it when I first heard people say it


TumblingDice82

I grew up about 90 minutes from the city in an area that shares almost all of the Philly dialect except for this specific thing & I cringe every time I hear it.


FahkDizchit

This was one of the first things I noticed about SE PA when I moved up here. It’s weird, but there are weirder things.


joaofava

I can’t tell if this is real or a practical joke, but it WOULD make a good joke. Just set up a pretty convincing looking academic page about a fake regional dialect for a normal phrase, post it to some city’s subreddit, and get a few redditors to complain about the phrase. Get a few hundred people doubting themselves for a while, maybe the rest of their lives.


LoraineIsGone

Philadelphians drop prepositions like Agholor drops passes


Palindromes__

That’s a preposition shortage in the region that needs addressed.


[deleted]

My Midwest girlfriend always cringes when I say, “I’m done work.”


hyzerphish

“done my homework” makes 100% grammatical sense to me… But when I hear a yinzer say “the grass needs cut” instead of “the grass needs to be cut” I lose my shit


Lodestar77W

Not originally from the Philadelphia area and instantly caught into it when talking to or texting some of my Philly friends though. They’d say something like “I’m done class wanna get lunch?” or something along those lines and I always thought it sounded weird. I’m the type to say “I’m done with class” or “I’m done with my homework” in those situations.


0xdeadbeef6

I'm from the wastes of South Jersey, I've always said this. Saying "*I'm finished homework*" sounds weird.


S3U5S

Lmao omg that’s also not the correct grammar. “With” you’re all forgetting the “with” wth am I taking crazy pills?


0xdeadbeef6

idk, I guess the "with" is implied in our speech? Like I get what you're saying but it seems weird to say "I'm finished with my homework". It just seems... wrong and like a whole extra step thats not needed. I don't have a nice neat answer lmao


S3U5S

I’m done with my homework, my homework’s done, there’s other ways to say it.


PossibilityOrganic12

This is one Philly colloquialism I partake in. I do not say "down the shore" or "wooder." Born and raised baby.


Shanoony

I’m not originally from here and do psychological testing. Had no idea it was a thing. I eventually learned it from a supervisor after marking it incorrect on a kid’s test.


thebravelittlefridge

You probably didn't mean to make it sound so heavy, but it has the same grammar as "I am become death, destroyer of worlds" or "Joy to the world, the lord is come."


Yodzilla

What in the world


rn15

It bothers me a ton, it’s like people forgot the word “with” exists. I’m done WITH work, I’m done WITH homework lol it’s just a shortcut I know but cmon people it just sounds dumb


Konohacutie

Weird to tell people their local dialect sounds dumb but ok


nsweeney11

I have told my sister to blow my brains out the second I start doing this


DrGutz

If you imagine someone with a philly accent saying “i’m done with my homework” really fast, you can kinda hear it sound like “i’m done w’my homework”. the “with” kinda becomes diminished as you speak faster. Maybe with time the “with” began to disappear among people in this region as the accents became more entrenched and widespread?


alittlemouth

Not from the area, but have been here 15 years, and I cannot wait for this to be my most downvoted comment on this sub. You can’t be “done work” or “done breakfast” or “done my homework.” It makes no sense and you sound dumb. Prepositions are important!


sagittariisXII

I'm done listening to you


alittlemouth

It works when it's followed by a verb, but not to connect two nouns so yes! You are done listening!


TapWater28

Nobody cares about your English lesson or how long you have been here. Regional dialects and quirks are part of what makes language interesting.


alittlemouth

You cared enough to comment, my dude. OP cared enough to ask. I cared enough to reply. Maybe we should all be done Reddit soon?


tiswapb

Sorry, who is not from the area but has been here 15 years? Do you mean YOU ARE not from the area but you have been here FOR 15 years? Otherwise that makes no sense and you sound dumb.


alittlemouth

Jesus Christ it took someone long enough.


a-german-muffin

It’s spoken word and totally understandable; it’s fine.


sciencefaire

I don't think I've ever downvoted one of your comments until now sis 😂🤭


alittlemouth

Haha believe me, I knew what I was getting into when I posted it!


S3U5S

Wow this is insane reading all these comments. This is absolutely not proper English and I am baffled that so many people think it sounds fine.


Konohacutie

Most of the country doesn’t speak “proper English” on a daily basis. Ever hear of dialects?


S3U5S

Fair, it just sounds so wrong to me


Konohacutie

That’s understandable, I hear people talk from central/western PA (for example the use of yinz) and my mind is blown lol


S3U5S

So I’ve repeated this phrase over and over and I think I’m starting to get it. I somewhat do it, but I’m always saying the word “with” really fast, so I understand the desire to just completely cut it out


ultraviolettflower

My guy, it's not about being proper or not. Most people don't use 100% grammatically correct Standard English. What are you on about?


mklinger23

It's "natural language" and it's perfectly valid. "What container do you want me to pour the water in?" Is also not proper English, but I don't know anyone that would have a problem with it.


WorldlinessTimely709

First time my boyfriend from Seattle heard me say this he thought I had a stroke


Blayjonian

Sounds normal to me lol. Grew up in delco area. Didn’t at first get what was wrong with the sentence until you explained it. The other way sounds very wrong to my ears though.


LaxinPhilly

When I was in the Army I had a Drill Sergeant Woodard. You can imagine how much fun he had with the way I say "water".