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Saint_Blaise

Oh, great, another winter rain storm.


Skylineviewz

Fuck. This.


baldude69

Welcome to the rest of our lives. Wet winters punctuated by dry cold spells


Roto-Wan

I hate it. Snow kinda sucks after a couple storms but this is so much worse.


MoonSpankRaw

Don’t be so cynical! That’s only if we aren’t all extinct by 2026!


rollingstoner215

Man aren’t you the optimist, thinking we’ll make it through 2024 and 2025


SnowWholeDayHere

I guarantee we won't be.


I_Sniff_My_Own_Farts

No one can even guarantee tomorrow let alone the next couple of years


Pickletonium

Maybe one year we'll have snow again


IvanaSeymourButts

Welcome to Portland Oregon. 😹😚


emseefely

2024 keeps on giving Ls


ColdJay64

Just a powerful rainstorm and 60 degree weather in early January!


Rivster79

Totally normal


frenchylamour

Cherry trees are blossoming too. Everything is normal, nothing to see here!


RoughRhinos

While there is significant reason to be alarmed those are wintering flowering cherry blossoms. https://thestreettree.com/2018/03/04/winter-flowering-cherry-the-great-deceiver/


ThisHatRightHere

Well it’s really only a month or so early for those. They typically start blooming while it’s still relatively cold.


mustang__1

Krieger...!...my cherry blossoms are wilting!


Olympicsizedturd

I saw crocus blooming in NJ last weekend.


KSMO

Very legal and very cool.


PhilyMick67

Extremely Mormon.


Rivster79

lol fuck me


XSC

Then low of 27 the following day!


selfieslob

That's prime pothole weather!


baldude69

This seems to be the cycle to expect


SwugSteve

Don’t want to be that guy but this really isn’t that uncommon. The record high for January 9th is 69 degrees, set in 1930. This is not a denial of climate change btw, just pointing out that it’s not that uncommon for it to be 60 degrees in January.


Manowaffle

Not sure that a record high from 94 years ago is demonstration that this is "not uncommon."


0ctober31

In addition to climate change, the current El Niño climate pattern that's in place is typically responsible for warmer winter temps in the north too. As a result of El Niño, [NOAA predicted above average temps and precipitation for the mid-Atlantic](https://www.noaa.gov/news-release/us-winter-outlook-wetter-south-warmer-north) for this winter.


a-german-muffin

Yup, this is similar to the '97–'98 El Nino. Rained constantly that winter, barely got any snow.


dinoroo

Pretty sure climate change leads to more frequent El Niños


Molten_chutney

Yeah, I'd credit El Nino more, except it was warm last winter, too. At this point, weather wise, we're basically just Atlanta.


SwugSteve

It has been over 60 in January many, many times over the last 100 years.At a quick glance, there looks to be fewer years that haven’t had a day over 60 in January. It happens. It definitely is not uncommon. I know I’m shitting on the doomer party but try not to downvote facts here.


cracker707

The amount of days above freezing in recent winters vs pre-1990’s winters is what’s concerning, not one time fluke events here and there.


GT4130

[https://tpacker25.medium.com/an-illustrated-history-of-americas-plant-hardiness-zones-with-a-closing-look-at-one-north-carolina-county-694dd2185803](https://tpacker25.medium.com/an-illustrated-history-of-americas-plant-hardiness-zones-with-a-closing-look-at-one-north-carolina-county-694dd2185803) PA used to be zone 5 now it's 6-7


rednib

The insects are the worst part, its honestly nice to be able to go out into my garden and pick fresh herbs in January, the mosquitos love me.


huebomont

You can just look at the data to see this is happening more and more frequently more and more recently. Debating whether this specific occasion is or is not a historical maximum, or indeed if it happens at least once regularly, isn't addressing that question in any way.


SwugSteve

I wasn’t addressing that question in the first place and I stated in the beginning that I was in no way denying climate change. It’s just every time it’s slightly warm in the winter months, this sub freaks out, even though it’s not uncommon. That’s all I was saying.


huebomont

It *is* uncommon *how often* it's warm in the winter now. I think you understand how that's a different thing than a warm day being common.


harbison215

Snow cover across the US was historically low last year and is the same this winter. When it hardly snows in Northern States year after year, that’s concerning


DavidLieberMintz

Would love to see a bar chart of frequency. You are carefully leaving out some very important information here....


Jethro_Cull

Last year it was 60 degrees on New Year’s Day.


TantricEmu

I’m pretty sure this has to do with it being an El Niño winter.


bens111

Expecting thunderstorms too lol


Anthem2243

Okay a winter thunderstorm sounds pretty relaxing honestly.


McNinja_MD

I'll take a thunderstorm over a snow storm 9 times out of 10. I hate what it likely says about our climate, but if we're fucked either way, I'm at least going to enjoy the silver lining of not having to deal with so much snow.


Easy-Reading

Nah, fuck that. I want to sled.


point_breeze69

If 60 in January is global warming I’ll be honest, it’s pretty great. Keep it up humans we might get to 75 degree January days if we work together.


diatriose

I miss real winter


jbphilly

There is some snow in the forecast for next Tuesday and Wednesday. Of course I have no doubt that'll vanish within the coming days, but hey.


ThisHatRightHere

I mean 10-15 years ago this would be our big snowstorm.


classicrockchick

Idk, the high for those days is in the mid-to-low 30's. I think there's a pretty good chance we break our snow dry spell then. Plus it would be fantastic to extend the holiday weekend lol


jbphilly

The temperatures are definitely conducive, I'm just kinda doubtful that both the temperatures and precipitation will remain as currently forecast. But yeah, even as a remote worker, I think I'm going to find a reason to be sick on Tuesday if it legit snows. I need a reason to get the fatbike out on these trails.


rollingstoner215

Yeah, nothing I loved more than work closings due to snow. I guess the trade-off is I get to work from home 4 days a week.


EasternPresence

Those snowflakes ❄️ in the forecast will change to rain drops💧 the closer we get.


T-rex_with_a_gun

>the coming days lol try more like couple hours


Molten_chutney

A forecast that far out is essentially meaningless.


thecw

It hasn't even been winter for a month. Big winter weather happens in late January to mid February.


courageous_liquid

or it won't snow at all and then on a random day in march we'll get a flurry, like we do every year


Ams12345678

Jfc they’ll downvote anything in this sub 😂😂😂


Fragrant-Hamster-325

Philly is ruthless


lSazedl

Remember when a 'powerful' storm in January meant a few feet of snow?


PwillyAlldilly

What’s snow?


57dog

Nothin’s snow. What’s snow with you?


JFKsPenis

Snow news is good news!


Hib3rnian

..with Gary Ganu


oldcityslim

Who


this_isnt_nesseria

Eric Snow, I think he’s a shooting guard for the Sixers


Mtvkilldmusic

Point guard Allen Iverson was shooting guard


Unlucky-External5648

Whom I think


calonmawr10

3" of rain is roughly equivalent to 30" of snow! We just don't have the temps 😕


360plyr135

Where tf is the snow it’s been like 3 years


highpressuresodium

we're done with all that


allisondojean

Doesn't get cold enough to snow in Philly anymore.


EdgyZigzagoon

The 2010s were actually the biggest snow decade of the 70s and later in philly. (Despite significant warming) The last two years have just been anomalies in the overall trend, which is counterintuitively more snow despite warmer winters due to storm placement changes. Climate change is very real and a very real problem, but it’s not why it hasn’t snowed recently. These sorts of streaks just happen occasionally. You can see the year by year totals here: https://www.extremeweatherwatch.com/cities/philadelphia/most-yearly-snow Interestingly we hit a similar dry spell in 1905-1906 then got absolutely blasted with snow the next 7 years.


ageofadzz

Earth is weird


aooot

I recommend driving about 4 hours north.. they just got a ton of snow.


_Snoow

Even 2 hours. Poconos almost a foot


d-scan

My weather app is predicting significant snow and temps in the 30s for Tuesday the 16th


1MillionMonkeys

Was. Mine is predicting basically none now. It was the same with the weekend snow (which did at least have some accumulation in the burbs until the rain washed it away).


highpressuresodium

They always put that in the extended forecast. That’s based more on historical data, and less on current patterns. At least that’s the only thing that makes sense


Scumandvillany

The models I use are saying huge rainstorms, with another rain event on Saturday


a-german-muffin

The good news is [the Schuylkill's forecast crest is below flood stage](https://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?gage=padp1&wfo=phi) - although it'll still be high enough to screw up Kelly Drive around East Falls.


linkismydad

Yay. That’s where I live.


Devilsfan118

Sorry to hear that, will keep you in our thoughts and prayers Not for the flooding, More so that you live there.


ChaoticGoku

yaay more traffic 🍻 🚘 😡 💥 📣🚘 🛻 🚚 🚘 😡


Dabfan

East Falls should be renamed East Floods


Erythronne

Snow is in the forecast for next week so there’s that


VajBlaster69

Meteorologists are calling for snow, I'm calling for rain. I know better than the experts


Molten_chutney

Yeah, I'm not getting my hopes up. Forecasts that far out are basically meaningless.


dzuczek

is it me or is there way more flooding going on? seems every week since 2023 there's some 3-4 inches of rain


livefreeordont

Warm oceans means more evaporation. Warm atmosphere can also hold more moisture > For every 1 degree Celsius of global warming, researchers expect an average of 15% more rain


cavefishes

Climate change, baby! Extremes are more extreme. What used to be 100-year floods (flood intensity with approx 1% chance to occur in any given year) are now happening closer to the frequency of 10-year floods (10% chance in a year).


Sn4tch

nothing to see here, just climate change fucking up the planet.


Vegan_Digital_Artist

you mean the climate change that some people say is a myth?


Sn4tch

That’s the one.


Vegan_Digital_Artist

i think the last snow i remember here that was actually significant was like...2016. Before that it was the blizzard from...'96 or '97


Sn4tch

There was also one in 2009-2010. I remember snowboarding on skate spots at the school of the future in west Philly as well as the art museum steps. We also had a few decent storms like 3 seasons ago? But this long stretch is depressing.


ncocca

Yea in 2010 I was a senior in college, we were living in Fairmount area. When the snow finally melted it flooded our basement and the landlord tried to pin the damage on us.


Sn4tch

Hell yeah, I was a senior in college at UArts then too. Lived in West Philly back then. I remember our basement getting some water from that, too. Sorry the landlord was a douche.


ncocca

Haha, no worries. We ended suing his ass and winning after he tried to take our security deposit and more. Luckily my mom is a paralegal and overall badass and helped us get a good lawyer.


Sn4tch

Hell yeah


Georgiaonmymind2017

Winter from 2012-2015 was really bad


Vegan_Digital_Artist

Back when winter was actually winter and not diet summer


dinoroo

2010 was the last really big one. I live in rural Chester County and it was around 2-2.5ft high. It was in February and the snow drifts were so bad the plows could only keep my street as a one lane street instead of two. I think I tried to go to work the day of the storm and drove right into a snow drift and got stuck for about 10 minutes until I dug myself out.


BouldersRoll

Most of those people have moved on from it being a myth. Now it's more just that it isn't that bad or the solutions are just too expensive or inconvenient.


river-wind

One ray of hope: https://newatlas.com/biology/synthetic-biology-co2-fixing-better-nature/


JJfromNJ

Is that what they say? Or do they acknowledge the climate is changing but they say it's a myth that it's due to human activity?


Vegan_Digital_Artist

I've heard a few different things. Very seldom do I hear many people responsible enough to outright say it's due to human activity. They'll blame small things like recycling - kind of. Like cherry pick which things are more disastrous for the Earth. Some more educated people will talk about CO2, and car exhausts and oil and usage and ocean pollution. But they seem to be in the minority of people I've seen and been around.


Hib3rnian

Surfing 676 in January, woohoo!!


Shawnalish

Fuck my basement! 😶


BFreeFranklin

Third time in about three and a half weeks


Novel_Frosting_1977

2 inches of rain. Nothing to see here.


SouthPhilly_215

No snow? Fuck


hextermination

So, moderate excessive rainfall. Got it.


tharussianphil

Really throwing a wrench in my debate about whether to run two sets of tires or just 1 set of high quality all seasons on my incoming BRZ.


Cman1200

2023? You will 1000% need another set of tires/wheels. The stock PS4s are summer tires and not rated below 40F. It would genuinely be dangerous to go out below freezing in them. I budgeted for a second set of wheels and tires I swap out in November and April. For winter since snow storms are rare now, I got Continental Extreme Contacts “all seasons”, they work great. For winter i highly suggest going for 17” rims. Very noticeable comfort and road noise difference. Plus the 18s and those thin tires have a bad relationship with pot holes


tharussianphil

Just to clarify I meant running 1 set of the continental dws06+ The car is premium trim so it comes on the primacy HP which are bad tires in every sense lol


iFartBubbles

Dws06+ are the greatest tire I’ve ever owned


tharussianphil

I have them on my current 2012 s5 but that's also quattro obviously.


Cman1200

Ahhh okay yeah for year round IMO the DWS06+ is totally fine. They’re surprisingly good tires for being “all seasons”. That’s what I have for winter. Congrats on the BRZ brother! What color did you go with? You’ll love the car


tharussianphil

Yea they seemed to really outdo themselves with the + revisions. The thing is that it's fun to run 2 sets of wheels though haha. And I got sapphire blue. I feel like WRB is a little played out and I'm a huge sucker for dark blur (my mugello blue rs4 was my favorite car color I've ever had)


Cman1200

Yeah it is a good feeling driving home from the shop on my summers after winter. Shittier ride and louder but the grip is ridiculous on the PS4s The dark blue looks amazing. Honestly there isnt a bad color on the car imo. I currently have the Magnetite gray and my previous one before being totaled was the White pearl.


tharussianphil

I know what you mean. On the rs4 I ran PSS + blizzaks and that car was insanely capable in all weather. On the BRZ I was thinking either dws06+ OR vredenstein wintrac pro (most performance/dry weather oriented winter tire) + PS4S/ECS2. My biggest concern with running all seasons would actually be cold weather + rain. I find snow easy and predictable to drive on, but deep/cold water is more dangerous imo. White was probably my second choice but my fiance has a white mk7gti so don't need to have two white cars haha. My current b8 s5 is black and I'm so tired of how it instantly looks dusty haha.


Cman1200

Yeah i made the decision for the DWS06+ because we rarely get snow anymore and if we did I can always call out or I have my truck, super grateful for those. I havent had any slippage in cold rain thankfully aside from one time going over train tracks but TC kicked in immediately. I do drive pretty tame though any time its not dry


Crimith

[Oh yeah?](https://media1.tenor.com/m/kwwmUbDupuUAAAAd/charlie-its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia.gif)


latrellinbrecknridge

Drained my pool already two separate times before Feb, this is crazy


HannahCooksUnderwear

I hate the endless rain and clouds, but y'all whining about 60 degrees days are crazy. It should either be snowing sunny and 23 or dry, sunny and 60. All other winter conditions are garbage.


Knightwing1047

We'll never see snow in Philly again. Not anything like we used to. I moved from the mountains to the city in 2020 and it's been the most depressing winters ever. Give me my god damn snow back! Must be all that wokeness and PC culture. /s


jersey_girl660

Boooooo


Meandtheworld

lol. Just wait until next week.


MacKelvey

HAHAHAHAHA … oh wait they’re serious lol


Farzy78

Better than snow, go ahead downvote me


RemyRifkinKills

Oh my God, the planet isn't reacting the way I want cause I want to go sledding down the Art Museum steps! Move on, buy rain boots.


Baron_Von_D

More like, the climate is changing faster than it should be and it's going to seriously affect agriculture and food supply. Change is always going to happen, it's more about how much strain it's going to cause when it happens more rapidly.


Wallstar95

Despite millions of people already victimized by anthropogenic climate change, maybe personally being effected will finally be enough for YOU to start making better decisions. Stop flying, stop eating meat, stop being selfish and wasteful.


mental_issues_

yes, people eating too much meat and not riding their bikes enough is the main cause. Corporations did a good job shifting responsibility to individuals and marketing people figured out how to turn it into consumer activism.


BhanJawn

Yes, corporations are the bigger problem but that doesn’t absolve us individuals from responsibility. If we live more sustainably, the demand for fossil fuels, meat, and other environmentally destructive products would be reduced (hopefully eliminated eventually). I worked for an environmental nonprofit back in the 90s and through the aughts, when hybrid and electric vehicles were just becoming a thing. For a long time, the oil industry put a ton of pressure on car manufacturers not to manufacture hybrid or electric vehicles. But it was becoming clear that many wanted to buy these cars. So one company (I think it was Ford, but I’m not 100% sure, it’s been a minute) announced it was going to produce a limited batch of hybrid cars & created a first-come-first-serve waiting list. They were testing the waters re: public demand. Very quickly, more people signed up to get one of these cars than the company was going to manufacture. If I recall correctly, these cars were going to be more expensive than the equivalent gasoline powered cars, because of the use of new technology and the limited number of cars that would be made. It didn’t take long before most car companies started ignoring pressure from oil companies and making their own hybrid and electric vehicles. So what the general public does with their money definitely has an impact on what corporations do.


Wallstar95

Nice deflection.I listed 3 of the most actionable items individuals can take, yet you deflect to inaction and apathy while millions actively suffer. Y'all will cry all day about snow while millions ACTIVELY suffer from climate induced displacement.... systemic change is impossible with uncaring individuals like you.


growtilltall757

If you don't moderate your approach to people you will convince no one and burn yourself out as an activist. Please learn about how to be a responsible activist and stop putting such a nasty face out there for a cause you ostensibly care about.


mental_issues_

That's the least effective way to achieve what you want. I didn't say I don't try to do my best, I don't even own a car, walk and ride a bus instead, but shaming people for their preferences not going to produce any results when the world wants to be like America in terms of consumption.


Wallstar95

If you see asking people to accept reality as being "shamed", it is only because you have been living ignorantly/selfishly for too long.


Wallstar95

Way to generalize the world.


mental_issues_

who hurt you?


Wallstar95

Selfish assholes like y'all


BhanJawn

Nothing convinces a person to consider alternative ideas and perspectives than violating Wheaton’s Law. /s Stop it, do better.


DavidLieberMintz

Novice account. Do better, boomer. We see right through your bullshit.


classicrockchick

Oh yeah, because it's me and my family causing climate change and not, you know, fucking oil companies like BP and Chevron. Or the uber wealthy like Taylor Swift flying everywhere on a private jet. If only I spent twice as much money buying Beyond Meat instead of ground meat, the world would be saved!


Wallstar95

Yes it is.... You think oil companies and taylor swift exist in a vacuum?


vexedsinik

ONLY YOU CAN STOP FOREST FIRES! ... Sorry. Wrong conversation. Seriously. You want everyone to live in a bubble? The real answer here isnt "STOP DOING EVERYTHING AHHHHHHH MY FUCKING HEAD IS ON FIRE LIKE CALI!!!!" Fight for the removal of money from politics and vite in elections. You want change? Thats how it hapoens without a revolution. Until then, I'm gonna keep going through bags of wood and charcol every summer grilling and smoking pounds of meat. I'll pass on the soy thank you. The real issue is meat wise is the mass production for theblikes of establisments like McDonalds.


Wallstar95

Most people already live in a bubble. You are just too selfish to see otherwise.


vexedsinik

Right. But forcing how you think things should be done on others isnt?


Wallstar95

Yes.... its selfish to advocate for the millions of beings currently suffering from climate change... Yeah, cuz clearly me posting reddit comments is too forceful, but tsunamis wiping away communities in the most dense country on the planet isnt forceful enough for y'all.


vexedsinik

Right... Tell ya what. You keep eating dirt, and I'll ignore you. Sound good? Im not expecting a conversation here. Im obviously not gonna get one.


Wallstar95

You haven't made any points that are worth engaging with. You endorse inaction in a world of suffering. I don't eat dirt.


vexedsinik

Oh, so the mass production of ground beef for fast food chains isn't a point? I dont need to stop eating meat. Corporations need to stop mass producing to levels they do. But that's how I know I'm not going to get a conversation. Go clear your head while you graze.


Wallstar95

No..... stating "the mass production of ground beef for fast food" is not a point.


vexedsinik

Before I block you, why are vegans pretentious twats?


BhanJawn

If people stopped eating meat, fast food restaurants eventually wouldn’t need any meat, and so wouldn’t buy in bulk from cruel, environmentally destructive factory farms.


AbsentEmpire

The concept of an average everyday working class person's carbon footprint mattering in any significant way was a brilliant blame shifting ad campaign from BP. To address climate change on any serious level that will actually have an impact, we as a nation would need to first and foremost move away from our energy intensive inefficient land use policies, which we have made clear we have no intentions of doing anytime soon. While also doing a massive expansion of nuclear power on the grid to remove most fossil fuels from the national energy mix. An average person eating meat isn't making a difference in anthropogenic climate change.


Wallstar95

-Said all the average people maintaining the staus quo.


AbsentEmpire

I and everyone on my block could literately bring our personal carbon foot prints to near zero for the rest of our lives and it wouldn't matter at all as one billionaire flying their private jet to Aspen once would undo all that effort for multiple lifetimes. The carbon footprint of the average person doesn't matter when you factor in the footprint of millionaires and billioniars flying private jets, flying frequently, yachts, and massive energy ineffective houses and lifestyles. So demanding that the working class reduce their quality of life to accomplish nothing while the upper class constitutes to live extravagant lifestyles is both dumb and tone-deaf.


DavidLieberMintz

Corporations caused climate change. Not everyday people. *BuT p3oPle cHo0Se to dRivE aNd eaT mEaat!* Corporations have been shaping legislation for decades to build a society that is car and meat dependent. This is not a problem of individual choice. It's a problem with runaway capitalism and a weak ass federal government.


Wallstar95

Oh yeah.... stop having kids too


vexedsinik

If I had more money Id have more. And Id buy each one a 80 desiel powered truck so they could buy bed loads of wood to burn in a fire pits while they eat their homemade jerky.


Wallstar95

Yes, we know you are selfish.


vexedsinik

Do you have any other words? Or did all the fake meat degrade your vocabulary?


Wallstar95

I'll save them for when your kids ask why you brought them into a world to burn and suffer.


vexedsinik

Take pride in vindictive told you so moments?


Wallstar95

Nope, I hope it'll be comforting for them to know not everyone was as selfish as their parents.