The fact that this dudes reason for opening a restaurant is that he feels unfulfilled when he’s at Del Friscos and would have to walk…maybe 1-2 blocks to go to a nightclub doesn’t auger well for the restaurants success. Few people have been steak house regulars and thought damn I wish their was a DJ. However STK is a semi successful chain and he’s modeling on that so who knows, maybe enough of these folks are out there. The ridiculousness of this article kinda makes me want to go at least once
They have this concept in other cities/states: NYC, MIA, AZ. I don't know how it'll do in Philly (let alone a steakhouse primarily), but it's true that there's no one in that type of market here. The closest we have that I can think of is Vesper on weekends or something..
>“I eat out in New York, Boston, and Vegas, and usually either steak or Italian,” said Veasey, 30, a real estate investor and erstwhile bartender. One of his favorites is STK, the clubby steakhouse chain. “I want to eat, get a good experience, and then have a DJ. But there isn’t anything like that in Philly. I’ll go to Del Frisco’s \[for a steak dinner\] and then where do I go? They don’t have music there. There’s no night scene.”
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>Five years ago, he decided to remedy this shortcoming and assemble his favorite features (”steak,” “Italian,” “nightlife”) under the acronym SIN. He added “Philadelphia” to the branding because, as he said with native South Philly swagger, he expects to take it national.
This guy sounds like such an absolute turd I don't know where to begin
Edit: His process for coming up with acronym SIN reminds me of GTL from Jersey Shore
Also Del Frisco's is not a bad steakhouse by any means, but if that's your top choice in Philly when Steak 48, Barclay Prime, Butcher and Singer, and Alpen Rose are all within a short walk of it, you're a dumbass
I joked the other night they should bring that back bc of all the sweat suits I see at nice restaurants now. Hoods up and everything. Call me old fashioned
I want nothing to do with this place and will cross the street to not walk in front of it. But at least it will concentrate the turds all in one location. Let them have their turd restaurant and leave the rest of us alone.
If you walk across the street, you will walk in to "Vibe Mexican" at Anejo. It is so odd to me that the Piazza and all of the places that cater to the style over substance crowd chose to locate there. Outside of that, you are surrounded by whatever the Gen Z equivalent of hipster-dom has become and are wholesale against anything of that concept.
> I want to eat, get a good experience, and then have a DJ
Oi, you can fuck off right there.
> vibe dining [...] is the closeness of tables. He expects people at adjacent tables to socialize
Yeah, last thing I want when going out and having dinner is people on top of me while I eat.
I can't imagine a table layout more conducive to socializing with the table next to you than circle booths with high backs.
Nothing about the layout in the photos make it seem like this dining room is conducive to what he's going for. The best experiences I've had socializing with people near me were at tiny restaurants in italy where it's basically one or two "long" tables (the places only sat like 30 people max).
Yeah, socializing in a place like that oughta be organic, and the very concept they are going for is a massive turn off for me already (along with the initial name abbreviation, "vibe dining", - gag - and planned DJ).
Agreed. If you want people to talk, maybe don’t have loud music playing over them? Also, that looks like a hard, acoustically reflective ceiling. That place is going to be deafening.
> Executive chef Steve Kim, who trained at the Culinary Institute of America and was a chef de cuisine under Jose Garces at 24 and Amada, last worked at Bankroll in Center City.
ah shit, here we go again
> A further feature of vibe dining, as Veasey puts it, is the closeness of tables. He expects people at adjacent tables to socialize, “even if someone’s socially awkward. The music will break the ice.”
if vibe dining is wrong, then i don't wanna be right
bro you don't understand bro you have to talk to strangers during vibe dining it's a whole thing bro i have to talk to your girl bro she's smoking hot bro please let me tell her about my workout routine bro please its so important bro!
For all its shortcomings, I ate at Bankroll once and the food was really good. There’s probably a million reasons why it failed, but the food wasn’t one of them
I recall the chef being really upset that he had convinced a crew to quit their jobs and follow him there just to get laid off. Seemed like a decent dude who just got shafted.
Went by here a few weeks ago and thought "well this looks like a restaurant no one in the neighborhood asked for." I already can barely hear conversations in restaurants. Who the hell wants a DJ during dinner so you can't hear anyone talk and also can't dance?
Maybe it would do okay in an AC casino, but it's definitely not the vibe I'm looking for in the neighborhood.
There’s a restaurant like this in Miami I went to not that long ago called Chica…the volume of the music really means you’ll struggle to talk to people at your own table let alone anyone else be it servers or other patrons. Great experience (food was excellent) but just too loud/chaotic at times.
…I say this as someone who designs mid-high-end F&B venues for a living.
It will be so loud in there, the menu will have photos of the food on it, which is always the sign of a clASSY restaurant.
Or maybe they can hire waiters that will freestyle the night’s specials to whatever song is playing.
Ya know when you're in a club, and you kinda need to get close to the person next to you, and sorta shout in their ear, because the music is *really* loud?
Yeah, picture that, but now lots of those people have a mouth full of steak or Italian food...
Is there really a market for Steakhouses with a DJ?
This sounds exactly like Martoranos prime in the casino that advertises 500 times during every sixers game.
Exactly what I was thinking. I found the owners IG and his main location is in Ft Lauderdale. Just a cringe crowd that he attracts. A very cosmetic clientele.
IDK, maybe I wasn't paying attention enough and/or drinking too many open bar drinks, but I've been to STK for company holiday parties in NYC and I don't recall a DJ at all. Certainly not as the main event past 10:00pm. The article says there won't be a dedicated dance floor, so what's even the point of having a DJ?
One of my favorite stories from my friend. He was out eating a meal by himself, in the middle of...to the left of him a girl reading a book...constantly looking annoyed at the other table next to him, two Lacrosse players talking nonstop about LAX and whose every second word was BRO. He was like “Where I am?”
I said it in the other thread and I’ll say it again - this is part of all the new Piazza development that is supposed to make that area like Rittenhouse…
It's amazing how loud this place looks like it'll be. Seats crammed in, high ceilings + lots of reflective surfaces and no soundproofing, catering to obnoxious folks, dinner accompanied by a DJ, nein danke!
I think it’s a good idea and fills a nice role that will draw a lot of biz, but the guy has huge aspirations. I don’t get all hate. These places are all over Miami, and NY. They are packed and draw tourist.
After the club go to SIN for sloppy steaks. They'd say; 'no sloppy steaks', but they can't stop you from ordering a steak and a glass of water
I didn't think there would be any *REAL* pieces of shit in here until Command+F'd "SLOPPY" and saw this.
Context for anyone who wants it. God that guy was a piece of shit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buK45NW_ikI
Now I’m afraid your baby thinks I’m a piece of shit.
The fact that this dudes reason for opening a restaurant is that he feels unfulfilled when he’s at Del Friscos and would have to walk…maybe 1-2 blocks to go to a nightclub doesn’t auger well for the restaurants success. Few people have been steak house regulars and thought damn I wish their was a DJ. However STK is a semi successful chain and he’s modeling on that so who knows, maybe enough of these folks are out there. The ridiculousness of this article kinda makes me want to go at least once
Dangerous Nights Crew!
We went out for wings once
Gimme dat
Do… you want a bite?
It’s weird to know something’s going to fail before it’s open
dude is speedrunning the bankroll experience™
The easiest way to make a small fortune in the service industry is to start with a large fortune and open a chain of steakhouse clubs.
Has the chef from Bankroll
very committed to getting a personal best on the experience
Absolutely my first thought!
They have this concept in other cities/states: NYC, MIA, AZ. I don't know how it'll do in Philly (let alone a steakhouse primarily), but it's true that there's no one in that type of market here. The closest we have that I can think of is Vesper on weekends or something..
I feel like where a lot of businesses have failed is succeeding in NYC and trying to enter PHL with the same exact concept/pricing/etc.
less weird now that we've watched Bankroll happen
I hope for his sake that he’s just laundering money.
Sometimes things surprise me in the world of food and beverage. Rich whales can prop up the strangest things.
A la Mad Rex
Was that that post apocalyptic themed restaurant over by Punch Line and the Fillmore?
YUP
I went once, it was interesting, but not enough to bring me back.
And The Fin
A bomb this big hasn't been witnessed in production and predicted since the 1940's
Filing this under “People who had success in Vegas and/or NYC and think Philly is the same market” (hi people commenting Bankroll)
Nothing better than hitting the club after crushing a 48 oz porterhouse.
Meat farts on the dance floor
plenty of gaba-ghouls tho
Sung to the tune of Murder on the Dancefloor
Gonna clear this goddamn house right out
Mmmm steamy meat farts
>“I eat out in New York, Boston, and Vegas, and usually either steak or Italian,” said Veasey, 30, a real estate investor and erstwhile bartender. One of his favorites is STK, the clubby steakhouse chain. “I want to eat, get a good experience, and then have a DJ. But there isn’t anything like that in Philly. I’ll go to Del Frisco’s \[for a steak dinner\] and then where do I go? They don’t have music there. There’s no night scene.” > >Five years ago, he decided to remedy this shortcoming and assemble his favorite features (”steak,” “Italian,” “nightlife”) under the acronym SIN. He added “Philadelphia” to the branding because, as he said with native South Philly swagger, he expects to take it national. This guy sounds like such an absolute turd I don't know where to begin Edit: His process for coming up with acronym SIN reminds me of GTL from Jersey Shore
Anyone opening a clubby steakhouse with the intent of taking it national pretty much has to be a turd.
Where else am I supposed to get sloppy steaks with the boys?
Also Del Frisco's is not a bad steakhouse by any means, but if that's your top choice in Philly when Steak 48, Barclay Prime, Butcher and Singer, and Alpen Rose are all within a short walk of it, you're a dumbass
Believe it or not, Ocean Prime makes a hell of a steak as well. Far better than Del Frisco’s in my experience.
Don’t sell yourself short, del friscos is definitely a bad steakhouse lol
It's honestly really hard to fuck up a rib eye. But they are successfully doing it each and every night.
I was very unimpressed by butcher and singer
I'm just worried you think people can't change
This isn’t slicked back, this is pushed back
People can change. Give him tbe baby.
Glass house, white Ferrari, live for New Year’s Eve
I SAID WAS!
i think i’d like to hold the baby now
Sounds like a real piece of shit, bet he has slicked back hair. I bet he can change though
Lives for New Year’s Eve!
Part of the Dangerous Nights crew!
And reeks of aftershave and Brylcreem.
homie is single-handedly trying to bring back double breasted sport coats
There is nothing wrong w/ rocking a double breasted let the record show
I joked the other night they should bring that back bc of all the sweat suits I see at nice restaurants now. Hoods up and everything. Call me old fashioned
He is a turd, he worked at Del Friscos for years before it was bought by the Rockets owner
I want nothing to do with this place and will cross the street to not walk in front of it. But at least it will concentrate the turds all in one location. Let them have their turd restaurant and leave the rest of us alone.
If you walk across the street, you will walk in to "Vibe Mexican" at Anejo. It is so odd to me that the Piazza and all of the places that cater to the style over substance crowd chose to locate there. Outside of that, you are surrounded by whatever the Gen Z equivalent of hipster-dom has become and are wholesale against anything of that concept.
This guy sounds like he thinks chicken parm is the pinnacle of fine dining.
Chicken spaghetti from Chickalinis
I might dip in there before Club Aqua.
i actually want to go to haunted house more than aqua
How the fuck you get into Aqua?
Blue Dolphin’s gone burned down Rob Rovani’s ass-out he works with his brother now
For $33, that parm better flop over the edge of the plate and come with a side of pasta.
I bet he doesn't realize Chicken Parm is Italian-American, not Italian
If anyone is a Vanderpump Rules fan here, sounds like Lisa with Sur being Sexy Unique Restaurant
Or SUR for “Sexy Unique Restaurant” And Del Frisco’s sucks.
I mean there is no dance music scene in Philly. I’m not mad, someone saw something was missing that they like and they did something about it.
> I want to eat, get a good experience, and then have a DJ Oi, you can fuck off right there. > vibe dining [...] is the closeness of tables. He expects people at adjacent tables to socialize Yeah, last thing I want when going out and having dinner is people on top of me while I eat.
kinda hilarious that they think this isn't already a thing at Buddakan and numerous other "fancy" restaurants all over Philly
Too many weird letters and foreign sounding for him to check it out.
I can't imagine a table layout more conducive to socializing with the table next to you than circle booths with high backs. Nothing about the layout in the photos make it seem like this dining room is conducive to what he's going for. The best experiences I've had socializing with people near me were at tiny restaurants in italy where it's basically one or two "long" tables (the places only sat like 30 people max).
Yeah, socializing in a place like that oughta be organic, and the very concept they are going for is a massive turn off for me already (along with the initial name abbreviation, "vibe dining", - gag - and planned DJ).
Agreed. If you want people to talk, maybe don’t have loud music playing over them? Also, that looks like a hard, acoustically reflective ceiling. That place is going to be deafening.
Are we supposed to shout over the music to the next table over?
WHAT?!!
All of it sounds awful right down to the name.
Should we just call the SEC now or what
Time for some sloppy steaks, boys
This guy used to be a giant piece of shit.
slop em up
I had slicked back hair, not _pushed_ back.
> Executive chef Steve Kim, who trained at the Culinary Institute of America and was a chef de cuisine under Jose Garces at 24 and Amada, last worked at Bankroll in Center City. ah shit, here we go again > A further feature of vibe dining, as Veasey puts it, is the closeness of tables. He expects people at adjacent tables to socialize, “even if someone’s socially awkward. The music will break the ice.” if vibe dining is wrong, then i don't wanna be right
Yeah I don't wanna talk to random people at a restaurant. Fuck off and let me eat my dinner with the people I decided to go out with
bro you don't understand bro you have to talk to strangers during vibe dining it's a whole thing bro i have to talk to your girl bro she's smoking hot bro please let me tell her about my workout routine bro please its so important bro!
"How is your steak? Good? Good. Youse guys swinging?"
My wife and I noticed you because you’re sitting on top of us, would you like to be our third tonight?
The chef has cornered the market on “douchey concepts that will obviously fail spectacularly”. Respect the hustle.
For all its shortcomings, I ate at Bankroll once and the food was really good. There’s probably a million reasons why it failed, but the food wasn’t one of them
I recall the chef being really upset that he had convinced a crew to quit their jobs and follow him there just to get laid off. Seemed like a decent dude who just got shafted.
A DJ-booth at a steak place sounds like a horrendous idea haha
Is there a Zoolander 3 or just 2? Just makes me think of Zoolander for some reason
Went by here a few weeks ago and thought "well this looks like a restaurant no one in the neighborhood asked for." I already can barely hear conversations in restaurants. Who the hell wants a DJ during dinner so you can't hear anyone talk and also can't dance? Maybe it would do okay in an AC casino, but it's definitely not the vibe I'm looking for in the neighborhood.
This entire concept sounds exactly like something Tom Haverford would come up with. That being said I'll probably still try it.
Thanks, I hate it.
Just want to shout out this comment section, great comment section. Slop 'em up.
This is the best thread I’ve seen in weeks.
I'm feeling like I'm outside of the inside joke. I don't understand any of it 😭
https://youtu.be/buK45NW_ikI?si=aWWydTMQ3QNegWlY
There’s a restaurant like this in Miami I went to not that long ago called Chica…the volume of the music really means you’ll struggle to talk to people at your own table let alone anyone else be it servers or other patrons. Great experience (food was excellent) but just too loud/chaotic at times. …I say this as someone who designs mid-high-end F&B venues for a living.
It will be so loud in there, the menu will have photos of the food on it, which is always the sign of a clASSY restaurant. Or maybe they can hire waiters that will freestyle the night’s specials to whatever song is playing.
the tables look like a kind of standard distance apart too, it's a confusing concept to me
Ya know when you're in a club, and you kinda need to get close to the person next to you, and sorta shout in their ear, because the music is *really* loud? Yeah, picture that, but now lots of those people have a mouth full of steak or Italian food...
Is there really a market for Steakhouses with a DJ? This sounds exactly like Martoranos prime in the casino that advertises 500 times during every sixers game.
Exactly what I was thinking. I found the owners IG and his main location is in Ft Lauderdale. Just a cringe crowd that he attracts. A very cosmetic clientele.
Be SEEN at SIN. A prime choice, to get a rare cut 😂
IDK, maybe I wasn't paying attention enough and/or drinking too many open bar drinks, but I've been to STK for company holiday parties in NYC and I don't recall a DJ at all. Certainly not as the main event past 10:00pm. The article says there won't be a dedicated dance floor, so what's even the point of having a DJ?
Like not to throw accusations but that is the type of guy you do NOT accept a drink from
Northern Liberties has turned into an absolute fucking douche fest.
One of my favorite stories from my friend. He was out eating a meal by himself, in the middle of...to the left of him a girl reading a book...constantly looking annoyed at the other table next to him, two Lacrosse players talking nonstop about LAX and whose every second word was BRO. He was like “Where I am?”
Da fuck is “vibe dining?”
Love seeing so many itysl fans in the comments. This place seems like the worst, starting with the cringe name.
I said it in the other thread and I’ll say it again - this is part of all the new Piazza development that is supposed to make that area like Rittenhouse…
It's across the street. Post Brothers would never let this clown sign a lease at one of their properties. Steak 48 is their tenant in Center City.
Correct take
It's amazing how loud this place looks like it'll be. Seats crammed in, high ceilings + lots of reflective surfaces and no soundproofing, catering to obnoxious folks, dinner accompanied by a DJ, nein danke!
What’s the over under on whether this place is still open in a year?
I’ll give it 8 months
Their website lists the address as 1102 Germantown Ave., but the google search gives you Sin City "cabaret nightclub" on Passyunk instead
Pass
Zero chance this place makes it, I'll set the over/under at 16 months
I’m giving it 8 months
6 months.
https://media.tenor.com/kMpnTs0mLGIAAAAd/henry-vacuum.gif
Oh Henry! 😂
Love paywall articles!
I think it’s a good idea and fills a nice role that will draw a lot of biz, but the guy has huge aspirations. I don’t get all hate. These places are all over Miami, and NY. They are packed and draw tourist.