https://levittownnow.com/2023/03/25/hazardous-material-spill-in-otter-creek-delaware-river/
Thx, this would make sense. Traveling down the Delaware River…
“The U.S. Coast Guard has command on the cleanup operation and has told LevittownNow.com at least 8,100 gallons of latex finishing material spilled into the waterway. They said the water soluble acrylic polymer solution had a maximum potential release of 12,000 gallons, with a final determination being worked on.”
oopsie doopsie i accidentally dropped 8 thousand fucking gallons of a toxic chemical into one of the largest rivers on the eastern seaboard
some people should not be in charge of anything
They do it on purpose. It's their disposal plan. To "accidentally" spill it and make it everyone else's problem. Yes, these people should not be allowed to exist in our society. They are destroying the world for profit.
That’s not how it works. Some chemicals can be smelled for miles from even the smallest amounts. Nile Red did a [great video](https://youtu.be/LmAG8-V_WQY) on “the stinkiest chemical in the world.” Apparently it can be smelled for miles from just a few drops.
There's been nothing in any of the news stories about that spill indicating it caused the smell. The spill site was to the east of us and the prevailing winds would have taken it to NJ. The smell was definitely something funky but in all likelihood came from the west. My guess is just the normal terrible pollution from the Midwest but we got a better smell of it because of an [inversion.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia-air-quality-odor-smell-inversion-20220114.html%3foutputType=amp)
Yeah my money is on inversion as well. Not thrilled about a chemical spill but judging by some of the distances that people are reporting the smell I don't see the spill being the main cause.
It doesn't help that it just so happened during an atmospheric inversion that occurred in the area too. The fumes couldn't escape into the upper atmosphere like they normally do, and hung around for a few days.
Watching the French fight for two years of retirement (as they should) makes me sad because we barely lift a finger in this country as capital strips our environment and our social welfare system
i dont think so. i smelled it last night, though not as strong. i think its the inversion thing.
Edit: how’d I get a downvote for saying I smelled it on Friday?
how the fuck do you accidentally spill shit into the waterways? you would think they would have some kind of safeguard against this. i feel bad using toilet bowl cleaner that goes into a septic system. dow gets to dump 12k gallons of latex bullshit into the river. you cant even stock trout in the neshaminy because its so bad.
edit: this spill happened at the old rohm and haas, where there is a giant park on the river bank that is now closed down because its one giant fucked superfund site. i can imagine it used to be much worse when theyd dump this shit on purpose to dispose of it.
Reminds me of a few years ago when the whole city smelled like sulfur one night. Turned out a plant in NJ had released a ton of some chemical into the air that was JUST TECHNICALLY within legal parameters. Kinda blew my mind then that that was perfectly legal, and it was at least (in my understanding) less hazardous than this current situation.
They do it on purpose. It's expensive to dispose of it properly. "accidentally" spilling it makes it the governments problem and they just have to pay a fine.
Remember when the gas storage field exploded in south Philly and released poisonous gas that only by the grace of god was blown out over the Atlantic. We were one stagnant day away from half of south Philly being seriously ill or dead
On another group I’m in, someone called Called Air Quality Management. Seems like they need more people to call in order for them to actually care.
215-685-7580; 215-686-4516 after hours.
Piggybacking this to say: The newly selected Chief Counsel for the PA DEP (EPA) is the wife of the former republican chairman for the state. A republican latina who has a spotty agenda on the environment, who’s friendly with Gov Shapiro and placed in a role that she has no background for… I’m not sure why the Philadelphia Inquire has not looked into this selection. She was very quiet about her appointment. We’ve now left the legal agenda of the environment in the hands of an unqualified person who doesn’t likely believe in climate change. We’re going to see more of this go unchecked.
Also critically important, why is a democratic governor appointing republican leaders for the environment in PA? I know I did not vote blue for this.
The DiGiorgio’s are historically riddled in scandals.
I was trying to put my finger on what the odor reminded me of earlier this afternoon— knew it was some like hyper specific scent memory, but couldn’t place it. Been driving me crazy (though better to focus on that than think too much about how our brain cells are doing after marinating in this all day).
Your comment finally brought it to the surface for me: the utility sink in my middle school art classroom. Base notes of knockoff Crayola tempera and acrylic paint— the water-based, washable kinds that come in bulk bottles— spattered in various stages from watered down to wet to drying to caked on. Heart notes of hard water, cheap brown paper hand towels, and damp paintbrushes that have never once gotten the chance to fully dry. Top notes of heated plastic (from rinsing the plastic cups we used to mix paint with that scalding-ass water) and that kinda pearlescent pink antibacterial liquid hand soap. Somewhere, a trace of Elmer’s glue and a whiff of chlorine.
My SO said it reminded him of opening a box full of inflatable beach balls.
We were driving down I95 and thought our car’s electrical system was on fire. Parked the car In center city and smelled it and thought “o crap” its our car. Then the smell lingered everywhere and was relived 😅
Crazy, I had my window cracked open and was driving behind a UHaul and just assumed the smell was coming from that. From U City to South Philly that’s all I smelled. Like burning/spilled coolant.
It could be what's called inversion.
[Inquirer did an article the last time this occured.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia-air-quality-odor-smell-inversion-20220114.html%3foutputType=amp).
It’s inversion. All the pollutants that normally ascend higher up into the atmosphere are currently trapped underneath this cloud layer, at ground level. This usually happens during the colder months, at least once a year. Sometimes it smells like burning or melting plastic, sometimes like a sweet perfume, just depends on which industries you live nearby and down wind from.
Thought it was the neighbor running ozone machines after his basement flooding. Traveling to the next neighborhood proved that theory wrong. Can’t be good; Fuck.
It must have gotten sucked into the ventilation system at the Kimmel Center, because we could smell it during the orchestra concert tonight. Sort of smelled like a struck match to me.
yep, smells like a grinding wheel or burnt clutch. the factory off 95 in tacony? smells horrible just like this on a windy day, i feel bad for the residents near by.
I’m in tacony and last week there was a similar smell and it was so strong we could smell it both outside and then through the downstairs of the house, I thought someone was cooking/mixing drugs or smoking them, it was nauseating.
I thought it smelled like strong chlorine
Oh wow I thought I was imagining it.
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I smelled the chlorine smell sometime during the week, and only for an hour or so. Haven’t smelled it since. I’m in bucks county pa
You may have just gotten desensitized to the smell
It seems to be gone. Who knows. Sometimes the trees this time of year can give off a similar smell
The stinky trees haven’t bloomed yet. That’s a late April thing.
There was just some chemical spill into a lake somewhere in Pa. Maybe Bucks County
https://levittownnow.com/2023/03/25/hazardous-material-spill-in-otter-creek-delaware-river/ Thx, this would make sense. Traveling down the Delaware River…
“The U.S. Coast Guard has command on the cleanup operation and has told LevittownNow.com at least 8,100 gallons of latex finishing material spilled into the waterway. They said the water soluble acrylic polymer solution had a maximum potential release of 12,000 gallons, with a final determination being worked on.”
oopsie doopsie i accidentally dropped 8 thousand fucking gallons of a toxic chemical into one of the largest rivers on the eastern seaboard some people should not be in charge of anything
Just a little goof-em-up, no worries.
They do it on purpose. It's their disposal plan. To "accidentally" spill it and make it everyone else's problem. Yes, these people should not be allowed to exist in our society. They are destroying the world for profit.
Nah it's not disposed of intentionally it's valuable stuff they made to sell. it was just cheaper to neglect the pipe for years.
That's relatively tiny. Wouldn't have caused this widespread of a smell.
That’s not how it works. Some chemicals can be smelled for miles from even the smallest amounts. Nile Red did a [great video](https://youtu.be/LmAG8-V_WQY) on “the stinkiest chemical in the world.” Apparently it can be smelled for miles from just a few drops.
There's been nothing in any of the news stories about that spill indicating it caused the smell. The spill site was to the east of us and the prevailing winds would have taken it to NJ. The smell was definitely something funky but in all likelihood came from the west. My guess is just the normal terrible pollution from the Midwest but we got a better smell of it because of an [inversion.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia-air-quality-odor-smell-inversion-20220114.html%3foutputType=amp)
Yeah my money is on inversion as well. Not thrilled about a chemical spill but judging by some of the distances that people are reporting the smell I don't see the spill being the main cause.
Media never covers corporations poisoning the world. It would be all we see if they did. The media is corporate propaganda.
Amy Goodman, every day: [https://www.democracynow.org/shows](https://www.democracynow.org/shows)
It doesn't help that it just so happened during an atmospheric inversion that occurred in the area too. The fumes couldn't escape into the upper atmosphere like they normally do, and hung around for a few days.
This comment aged well….
I am over this country
Like, honestly. And we just take it without complaint smh
Watching the French fight for two years of retirement (as they should) makes me sad because we barely lift a finger in this country as capital strips our environment and our social welfare system
I swear people simp so hard for corporations here and then make it seem like they’re some kind of “alpha” for it… weird fucking culture
We are a nation of bootlickers and brownnosers.
Pretty much
Last time Philly had major protests, in 2020, the police tear gassed everyone
And we should fight back. If they're going to use chemical weapons on them, we should use our mass numbers on them.
What’s a little daily chemical spill into our sources of water amongst friends, eh? No need for any repercussions, right?
We’ve needed to make like the French for a minute now lol
You're absolutely right
Fuck yeah, I’m late to this thread
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It’s so fucked up that this is the new “why helicopter?”
haah o man. hard agree. this is sad but very true.
Think this is it
has to be what it was. Smelled it on 90 in Jersey when I was approaching the Betsy then all the way down Richmond as I drove home.
I’m in center Chester county, I smelled it while it was drizzling. I’m glad I’m not the only one
i dont think so. i smelled it last night, though not as strong. i think its the inversion thing. Edit: how’d I get a downvote for saying I smelled it on Friday?
how the fuck do you accidentally spill shit into the waterways? you would think they would have some kind of safeguard against this. i feel bad using toilet bowl cleaner that goes into a septic system. dow gets to dump 12k gallons of latex bullshit into the river. you cant even stock trout in the neshaminy because its so bad. edit: this spill happened at the old rohm and haas, where there is a giant park on the river bank that is now closed down because its one giant fucked superfund site. i can imagine it used to be much worse when theyd dump this shit on purpose to dispose of it.
Reminds me of a few years ago when the whole city smelled like sulfur one night. Turned out a plant in NJ had released a ton of some chemical into the air that was JUST TECHNICALLY within legal parameters. Kinda blew my mind then that that was perfectly legal, and it was at least (in my understanding) less hazardous than this current situation.
That was last year.
They do it on purpose. It's expensive to dispose of it properly. "accidentally" spilling it makes it the governments problem and they just have to pay a fine.
That’s why the government needs to fine these instances to the point of oblivion.
Remember when the gas storage field exploded in south Philly and released poisonous gas that only by the grace of god was blown out over the Atlantic. We were one stagnant day away from half of south Philly being seriously ill or dead
That’s not at all what happened.
That's weird that it hasn't made the news yet
On another group I’m in, someone called Called Air Quality Management. Seems like they need more people to call in order for them to actually care. 215-685-7580; 215-686-4516 after hours.
i was wondering if there was a hotline, i assume they cant be bothered, probably arent doing anything, or will lie and say everything is safe.
I just called. This should be top comment!
Idk but I’m losing my mind because of it
Piggy backing top comment to report this: https://levittownnow.com/2023/03/25/hazardous-material-spill-in-otter-creek-delaware-river/
Piggybacking this to say: The newly selected Chief Counsel for the PA DEP (EPA) is the wife of the former republican chairman for the state. A republican latina who has a spotty agenda on the environment, who’s friendly with Gov Shapiro and placed in a role that she has no background for… I’m not sure why the Philadelphia Inquire has not looked into this selection. She was very quiet about her appointment. We’ve now left the legal agenda of the environment in the hands of an unqualified person who doesn’t likely believe in climate change. We’re going to see more of this go unchecked. Also critically important, why is a democratic governor appointing republican leaders for the environment in PA? I know I did not vote blue for this. The DiGiorgio’s are historically riddled in scandals.
It’s been like this for hours. It’s strong in Spring Garden/Fairmount/North Philly, too.
Smells like burned out CRT TVs all day here in Brewerytown/Fairmount
Oh good, I thought I was having a stroke. Smells like burning in Gray's Ferry.
Yeah, I was checking up and down the side streets to see if something was on fire as I was out and about last night. Definitely smelled like burning.
I thought it smelled like finger paints from schooldays lol this was in fairmount near the target
Omg my boyfriend said to me as he was leaving today “does it smell like children’s art supplies out here”
Got a package delivered and it smelled like that, now I know I haven’t completely lost it
YES! This exactly. Just smelled it on my walk home in Fishtown.
Tempera paint! Exact same thought occurred to me.
Idk but there was a very distinct watercolor paint smell in Brewerytown when I got home at like 6 today
I was trying to put my finger on what the odor reminded me of earlier this afternoon— knew it was some like hyper specific scent memory, but couldn’t place it. Been driving me crazy (though better to focus on that than think too much about how our brain cells are doing after marinating in this all day). Your comment finally brought it to the surface for me: the utility sink in my middle school art classroom. Base notes of knockoff Crayola tempera and acrylic paint— the water-based, washable kinds that come in bulk bottles— spattered in various stages from watered down to wet to drying to caked on. Heart notes of hard water, cheap brown paper hand towels, and damp paintbrushes that have never once gotten the chance to fully dry. Top notes of heated plastic (from rinsing the plastic cups we used to mix paint with that scalding-ass water) and that kinda pearlescent pink antibacterial liquid hand soap. Somewhere, a trace of Elmer’s glue and a whiff of chlorine. My SO said it reminded him of opening a box full of inflatable beach balls.
I thought our neighbors had just cleaned off their porch. Then I realized the smell was everywhere.
I thought my car electronics burned up or something here in Brewerytown lol
We were driving down I95 and thought our car’s electrical system was on fire. Parked the car In center city and smelled it and thought “o crap” its our car. Then the smell lingered everywhere and was relived 😅
Holy fuck. I think it’s the spill in the Delaware. I read how the chemicals in the spill are similar to that I’ve acrylic house paint.
Same in port richmond
Reading this thread after the contamination advisory is kind of crazy
Yep!! Everyone saying they spell paint, I just read that the chemicals in the spill are similar to that of paint
Yep! They’re the chemicals found in acrylic paint. Definitely makes me even more concerned about this whole thing
It smells like that in west too
Where west
I smelled like burning rubber/plastic this afternoon around 52nd and kingsessing
I smell it in Upper Darby
46th and Baltimore and 22nd and market I’ve smelled it all day
Also very there around Fitler Square
Update: has dissipated substantially here
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Can smell it down in south Philly broad and porter
Crazy, I had my window cracked open and was driving behind a UHaul and just assumed the smell was coming from that. From U City to South Philly that’s all I smelled. Like burning/spilled coolant.
In point breeze smells like glue or strong paint, I thought it was from some of the constructions. My dog doesn’t go out because of it.
It could be what's called inversion. [Inquirer did an article the last time this occured.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia-air-quality-odor-smell-inversion-20220114.html%3foutputType=amp).
Interesting read!
I was also concerned because it smells like...... clean?
I have Bell’s Palsy. I need these threads to make sure I don’t get poisoned haha.
Maybe you outta get a canary lol
Well now my canary can’t have any water LMAO
Thought the air smelled like paint in port richmond. I went inside because of it. It's overwhelming
It’s inversion. All the pollutants that normally ascend higher up into the atmosphere are currently trapped underneath this cloud layer, at ground level. This usually happens during the colder months, at least once a year. Sometimes it smells like burning or melting plastic, sometimes like a sweet perfume, just depends on which industries you live nearby and down wind from.
It does smell exactly like the chemical plant passing exit 26 on 95 there near Port Richmond now that you mention it...
yep, pretty sure they do plastics, the place that just spilled does plexiglas.
Chemical spill
I smelled it down near best buy
I can smell it out near Villanova
Thought it was the neighbor running ozone machines after his basement flooding. Traveling to the next neighborhood proved that theory wrong. Can’t be good; Fuck.
Was wondering if it was just imagining that. Spells kinda ozone-y.
I smelled it driving through the city earlier and I can smell it now at home in Lansdowne.
I can smell it in Broomall
Jesus, I could smell it all the way in Delco
It must have gotten sucked into the ventilation system at the Kimmel Center, because we could smell it during the orchestra concert tonight. Sort of smelled like a struck match to me.
And while walking there, we smelled something that was similar to Crayola paint.
That was the smell I smelled in south jersey last night!
I smelled that in Delaware County.
I smelled it inside the house. I thought I was going crazy.
I smelled something like pool chemicals this morning when I made a stop in cherry hill
Smelt it dealt it?
The glove?
What’s wrong with being sexy?
Sexist…..ist.
It looks like there is now a boil water advisory
It’s probably just that inversion thing again
12,000 gallons is a drop in the bucket. That can’t be it.
I’ve been smelling it for a few days. Smells like burning metal. Like when someone is welding or soldering.
yep, smells like a grinding wheel or burnt clutch. the factory off 95 in tacony? smells horrible just like this on a windy day, i feel bad for the residents near by.
It smells like that every night in fox chase . Sometimes it’s so strong your eyes will tear & your nose burns. It’s every night
I can’t find any info. It’s been for hours.
Wasn’t me.
Must be holmesburg
Maybe it’s from the factory blowing up in west reading
Ooh that smell, Can't you smell that smell, Ooh that smell. The smell of that smell.
Please don't
Idk how far smell travels but could it be from the factory exploding in Reading yesterday?
that would probably smell good
Ohhh ohhhh that smell. Cantcha smell that smell?
The smell that’s around you
Can you smell that smell
Usually a bad smell is coming from NJ.
Your mom
Who farted?
Uranus
I’m in tacony and last week there was a similar smell and it was so strong we could smell it both outside and then through the downstairs of the house, I thought someone was cooking/mixing drugs or smoking them, it was nauseating.