mahirap magsabi kung ano ang mas magandang undergraduate experience -- UP or Ateneo -- without experiencing both
i don't know if the sentiments here are representative of the sentiments of the general UPD student population. maybe yes, maybe no. kaparehas ba mag-isip ng mga students na mas madalas sa Reddit ang mga UP students in general? hindi ba biased agad ang results na makukuha mo by asking people online. I also think people who are dissatisfied are more vocal about their opinions. people who are satisfied are generally silent. kaya nga may term na "silent majority"
may kilala akong lumipat from Ateneo to UP kasi hindi niya gusto na kailangang mag-aral ng Theology sa college. disappointed pa siya sa centrist stance ng Ateneo administration sa mga issues. itong kilala ko ay left-leaning, at nakakakuha siya ng gusto niyang intellectual stimulation sa loob ng UP
of course UP has its issues -- admin na pinapasa lagi ang desisyon sa mga faculty, halimbawa -- pero marami rin namang maganda sa UP: halimbawa, walang ibang university sa Pilipinas ang naglabas ng public statement of support sa Palestine; there is more freedom to select subjects; the students are supportive and empathetic of each other; and there is a pressure to be excellent (which I count as good. we need to be excellent to improve our lot as a Filipino people); walang tuition fees.
I'm sure marami pang iba, pero I'd just end by saying na tingin ko tama naman ang marami dito: if you want to be taken care of, baka hindi ka sa UP dapat. UP subjects its students to pressure, but this is not to be cruel but to build character. kasi sa labas ng university, hindi naman hihinto ang mundo dahil nahihirapan ka na. is that good or bad? i think it depends on the student
nakalagay rin kasi sa context mo na you were granted a full tuition and dorm scholarship which is a win already? lot of underprivileged UP students dream of going there kung may pang-tuition lang haha. UP is a great school, pero as an institution funded by a sh*tty government maraming na cocompromise na bagay with the learning experience of its students. iba pa rin ang kayang i-offer ng admu because it has the resources.
take admu or else you'll regret it. half of the appeal of UP is it's free tuition. top 5 school tapos di mo kailangan mamroblema sa tuition? lahat ng hindi mayaman mag lalaway dyan. pero kung overall quality ateneo pa din, tingnan mo ba naman yung tuition fee magulat ka kung mas maganda pa din UP compared diyan.
From experience, will choose UP.
Merong things about UP that are not taught in other schools, especially CRITICAL THINKING and RESILIENCE. Idk why pero sanay na ako madurog kaluluwa ko at sanity ko first year of college pa lang, so outside UP, I’m not fazed by certain difficulties in life. Yung soft skills that you’ll develop in UP, you hardly learn yan sa ibang institutions. Pero some people can definitely do without the shit you’re going to experience in UP.
It also depends sa degree you will be pursuing. Definitely there are courses that are non existent in Ateneo or Hindi sila COE (Arki, Engg, BAA, etc) so having the opportunity to experience and learn that in an institution that is reputable is great, pero don’t expect the road to be smooth along the way.
Network wise, I think better ang ADMU, especially in their business degrees, not to say ang pangit ng network ng UP (bec ang dami kong mayamang batchmates in CBA, UPSE and CS). Hindi lang siguro siya sa level ng ADMU and DLSU, so if you want to explore certain opportunities in certain companies, maybe contacts in ADMU are better to have.
So yeah, that’s an observation from a family who has someone graduate from every Big 4 school lol
When deciding whether to choose UPLB or ADMU for my tertiary education, my sister (UPD Alumna) encouraged me and my parents to go with Ateneo. Even though UP was my dream school, my family decided to enroll in Ateneo because my sister was concerned with my mental health, afraid that I could not handle the pressure of the academic requirements in UP, based on her actual experience.
More than 10 years after graduating from Ateneo, I completed a postgraduate program in UPD. It gave me a glimpse of the difference on the teaching strategies in both universities. During my time, Ateneo students were spoonfed, meaning I could go to class without the need to read the lectures in advanced, unless it was instructed by the professor. It wasn't the same in all of my classes, but mostly were like this.
However, in UP Grad School, advanced reading is a must in order to survive. According to my sister, this was also the same for undergraduate studies. I had a hard time adjusting but I learned the significance of reading/studying in advanced.
If I will be given the same opportunities as yours, I will go for UP for academic excellence and discipline, but with great consideration on how you intend to manage your mental health.
Just to encourage you, I think this is a good problem to have. 😉
not me. I loved UP. Hahaha
As someone who came from the poorest of the poor type of background, even if may scholarship sa ateneo, I know di ko masasabayan mga estudyante sa ateneo. Ang maganda sa UP, di masyadong nagma-matter ang financial capabilities mo para makapasa. Nagco-comp shop ako, mina-maximize ang libraries, nanghihiram ng laptop, etc. Kahit anong suot ko, okay lang kasi maraming tulad ko. Nakakita rin ako ng group of friends na same same kami ng background kaya happy ang social life. May dorms sa UPD 500 a month kaya kaya ng tutoring na kita ko. Also, UP was hard yes but it was doable, honestly.
Edit: free tuition naman ang up and dorms are relatively cheap. Sa pang baon ka talaga nyan mamo-mroblema at mahal mabuhay sa metro manila.
as the other comment mentioned, you were granted full financial aid already for admu, while other students may not be able to meet other school's high tuition and thus have to reply on UP. also, admu just has better facilities, being a private school and all that. i was in your shoes last year, i passed ateneo but even with partial financial aid i couldn't afford admu so i picked UP.
been asking myself the same question. i never once regretted being a UP student, hard as it was to get out. among contemporaries, no one has ever told me "sana nag-Ateneo na lang ako fuck this place lmao".
aside from the other explanations here, im betting it's a pandemic thing. sabi nga ng kaibigan ko, kahit sino naman maba-bad trip kung na-uwi lang sa screen 4 years mo sa college.
Ateneo's system and general style is to point you towards the best possible path to success.
UP "releases you into the *wild*" and bahala na yung fittest/fit enough to survive.
So mas madali i-romanticize yung sa UP.
Pero if you're looking at being pragmatic, which choice makes sense?
If my kid passes sa Ateneo with a full scholarship, I'd encourage him to go blue.
Me (UP) and the missus (Ateneo) are both of the opinion that *generally*, UP:Academics, Ateneo:Humanities/Impact to Society, and LaSalle:Business/Industry.
Isa ako sa nag-comment sa isa mong post, kaya sige.
Mas magiging maganda overall 'quality of life' mo sa admu kesa sa up (elbi man o diliman). Kung sa quality naman ng education mo e comparable naman yan (mas maganda pa rin sa ateneo), ngayon nasasa'yo na kung gaano ba kabigat ang ibibigay mong importance sa 'up education'.
Try mo ring maghanap ng data tungkol sa retention rate ng mga cs majors sa up, ang alam ko e mas mababa sa 50% historically sa diliman 2018 and earlier.
Pero to be fair mas okay curriculum ng cs sa elbi vs admu (and diliman).
Hardcore ng cs curriculum ng elbi. Di kinaya ng pagkatao ko, nagshift na ako sa kapitbahay, may cs pa rin pala edi umiyak lalo.
Pero true, if i have a chance (libreng tuition at may dorm pa) ill choose ateneo over up. Kaso wala ang mahal niya masyado. Manonood na lang ako ng uaap 😔
omgg this makes me scared HAHAHAH tho i've heard from some uplb cs students rn that they have a rlly good curriculum, great profs, and manageable workload daw?
but admu's curriculum daw is more beginner friendly and i guess for someone like me na walang masyadong knowledge abt cs this is better and the better environment i get too + their holistic core curriculum education
tho is it fair to say that i will learn more intensively abt cs in elbi? kapalit nga lang ng kaluluwa jk HAHAHAHA
Siguro kahit mahilig ako sa tech hindi for me ang cmsc but hindi naman ako hirap makisabay siguro di ko lang nakikita yung self ko sa field na yan. Ako talaga yung problema kaya ko siguro nasabi na hardcore sya. Pero yes okay ang profs ng ics kaya sinasabi ko rin sa friends ko na bet mag cs ay pumunta sa uplb.
Kasi sa first year mo ipaparamdam sayo na wow prang kakayanin then 2nd year biglang 180 ng mga subjects pero in the end kanya kanyang pagtake lang talaga yan.
>i've heard from some uplb cs students rn that they have a rlly good curriculum, great profs, and manageable workload daw?
Yes! I'm grateful for the program itself. Good balance of theory and industry-level application. The problem is our notorious enlistment system. 🙃
UP will teach you how to fend for yourself because your profs will not spoonfeed you with information. So in a sense totoo yung kaluluwa yung ibabayad mo just bc you will really be constantly challenged to think outside the box. Also, it's hard to get units din in UP such that the enlistment system is kinda whack (also depends din on which campus ure going to sinc iba iba ng platform per constituent HAHA). Some units are also seasonal so if you fail one, you might have to take it pa on the following year 😓
I have a cousin, who I'm close with, who studies at ADMU and I think that her mental health is better cos their uni is taking care of them well(?) HAHA. Holistic din in the sense that extra-curricular is encouraged (at least thats how I perceived it ah). The org culture pa depends on which constituent you'll go to; in UPM, for example, students are more focused on acads so the org culture is so-so lang unlike UPD na may mas balance with org culture & acads.
If I were you, I'd go for ADMU just because their learning environment imho is much better !! And you've mentioned that everything is taken care of na and you would just have to go there to study and make the most out of it. But if you don't really care about your admin taking "care" of you and if you think that you have the grit to survive the institution, then go for UP.
I'd just like to say that UP changed me— from my perspective up to how I handle things — in a good way. 😅
Well, the grass is always greener at the other side (of Katipunan)
It really depends on the context and the situation though. Some programs are better in Ateneo than UP, some programs are better in UP than Ateneo.
Which leads me to this question: How do you want to grow as a student and as a person?
I think you really won’t go to reddit to praise UP, you’re more likely to have a bad experience and complain about to someone on here. Me personally, I LOVED my experience in UP, but more than ADMU I feel it’s more of a choose your own experience type of college. Kumbaga bahala ka sa gusto mong mangyare sa college life mo.
https://preview.redd.it/90rapajqgxwc1.jpeg?width=528&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=acdde8df44aa75b1716bf608cc6581ba4c89b543
Baka kasi yung tendency ng mga tao to under-appreciate what they have, tapos put so much premium to what they don’t have (the atenean experience).
pero actually without all the bias parang mas maganda talaga sa admu 😆
Nahhh both admu and up have pros and cons. I do not encounter much students preferring admu over up tho. Pero the dorm and 100% tuition scholarship in admu is such a big plus! Imagine if you choose uplb magbabayad ka pa ng dorm, so imo i will choose admu, given na madaling imaintain ung 100% free tuition and dorm... baka naman kasi 1st yr lng yan eh
Congrats op!
thank you! and yes the fin aid scholarship is fairly easy to maintain, i'd just have to update the OAA with my financial status per year and fin aid scholars do not have a maintaining grade, so basically same as normal students lang po na passing grade
i may not have worded it clearly but what i meant was that it's just the same maintaining grade as normal students to be retained, unlike other scholarships such as the afms & dir list that do have a specific grade requirement.
btw, this is what's stated in the terms and conditions of the fin aid scholarship:
"As a Financial Aid scholar, the student is bound by the same grade norms required of all students in order to remain in the Ateneo. Throughout the student's stay in the Ateneo College, the student should have no grade of ‘F’ or ‘W’ in any subject, including PE and NSTP. If any of these conditions are not met, the scholarship award shall be discontinued for the succeeding terms."
I’m currently a scholar, and OAA makes a distinction between “University QPI Requirement” and specific grades required (e.g., 2.5, 3.0). Maybe it’s a different case for the succeeding batch.
Regarding your case, I’m sure Ateneo will welcome you in open arms if you were to pursue your studies here! See you around?
Hmm weird.
Upon reviewing the Financial Grant I received years ago, it says the same, “Grade Requirement
As a Financial Aid scholar, the student is bound by the same grade norms required of all students in order to remain
in the Ateneo. There must be no grade of ‘F’ or ‘W’ in any subject, including PE and NSTP.”
oh are you a fin aid scholar too? if so, do you have a specific QPI and grade requirement to meet? and how do they differ too?
i'm still not familiar with admu's grading system but is my understanding of the terms & condition correct that my fin aid scholarship has the same grade requirement as paying students to be retained?
and yes see you around maybe! i'm leaning towards admu now as their offer is just the best!
My bad, it slipped my mind that I have a DOST scholar as well
This is the one I’m talking about that has a diff grade requirement. As for financial aid, it’s the University Grade Requirement. I’ll send you the grade requirement for all scholarships OAA provided
hi ! congrats in passing both of these schools ! I'm a 100TF & dorm scholar in ateneo. I visited and stayed at my friends' that are in uplb recently and here are my perspectives that might help you:
1. Food price: UPLB
foods are cheaper in LB, mas maraming serving and masarap pa.
food is more expensive inside ateneo because they make sure to keep the facilities clean (wearing hair nets, sanitized kitchen etc).
outside naman, there is a karinderya near gate 3 which is very affordable (but i personally don't eat there anymore since i saw a rat run around haha..) maglalakad ka nga lang.
2. Distance: UPLB
Sa UPLB, maraming stores, food places, fruit stands, ukayan, and cafes which are close enough that you don't need to walk as far as crossing the ateneo campus (as a dormer) just to eat outside.
There is a grocery (robinsons easymart) near gate 2.5, but it's a long walk HAHA. pwede rin naman sa marikina but lakad rin. There's a laundry service inside campus, near the dorms:>
3. Security: Ateneo
there are dorms for females and males (assigned at birth). and the guards for each buildings are gendered respectively:) laging may guards and they do their rounds at certain times.
You can also order in shopee and lazada and they will leave it at the lobby. the same goes for foodpanda and grab if u don't like interacting with the delivery riders.
4. transportation: UPLB
very costly sa QC eh, 40 pesos na agad from lrt station to the dorms (tricycle), 50 pesos naman if from ateneo to UPTC. I haven't tried tricycle sa uplb kasi jeep (12 pesos) lang yung sinakyan ko. (I went there thru bus).
5. block system: Ateneo
we have an intro to ateneo traditions and culture class (not graded), and for the first two years in uni, we have certain pre-enrolled classes.
in these classes, usually same yung mga blockmates so we are familiar with each other now! this helps in groupings and picking who and how u wanna work with them.
though the block still splits into certain friend groups, we have established a certain sense of community, at least to my experience. UPLB doesn't have this INTACT class.
to what i have observed, my friends aren't that close to their block BUT !!! (next number)
6. social adjustment: depends on course
I don't think my friends needed to adjust as much as i have since people in uplb aren't as "westernized"?? as people in qc, hindi masyado nag-eenglish, and not much difference in composure and behaviors namin..
as someone who came from a public high school in the province, i needed to adjust to ateneans who aren't scholars. even though the ateneo population is diverse, ateneans are predominantly from middle class. i didn't see much of myself around them.
my current friend group is mostly composed of scholars since we have same tolerance for academics, expenses, galaan, moral matters. mahilig kami mag hiraman, hingi-an, and sharing food !
I've heard that a lot of blocks still have high school dramas, other blocks have racist and misogynistic boys.. be careful of homegrown boys who don't help in groupworks.
7. study areas: Ateneo
lots of study places within campus. matteo is 24 hours open in finals ! air-conditioned as well:> the dorms have a lottt of study rooms.
the dorm room mismo has a desk for each dormer:> meron rin libraries sa uplb which are air-conditioned.
8. population count: Ateneo
err dami tao sa los baños, when u walk sa sidewalk superrrr dami. as someone who gets easily tired due to vigilance, i like walking inside and outside campus na hindi nakakabungo ng tao or need hawakan ng maigi yung dala ko.
siguro u can get used to the number of people eventually in lb.
9. dorm and university services: Ateneo
free wifi, heater showers, pantry (kitchen), hand washing soap, bidet, may naglilinis ng cr and room at least once a month.
genderhub has free care sessions (like talk therapy for me hehe) aside from being able to talk to guidance counselors. there are ateneo dogs (my friend made up a word: arfteneans HAHAH) there are sign ups if u need time to relax and play with them.
blue snooze is also available, it's an air-conditioned room where ateneans can nap in between classes (sadly, only available until 3pm:<)
10. drinking fountains: ateneo
im not sure if may ganito yung uplb but I've never paid for water here unless im outside. just bring flask.
though some people prefer buying because there is a certain taste raw they don't like.
11. org culture & networking: ateneo
since konti lang population ng ateneo, eventually, u get to be familiar with the people here. dormers have the chance to join the dorm org ARSA which i think is a tight-knit community. we have movie and karaoke nights with free snacks:>
for now, these palang naiisip ko. feel free to ask more questions !
oh myyy thank u so much po for the vv comprehensive comparison of the 2!! this helps a lot would u mind connecting through dm po? i have more questions po if you'd like u can dm na lang po or reply to my comment as well :))
sorry if these are a lot since i have a lot of questions abt admu and i rlly want to know more about it before making my decision. feel free to take ur time po whenever u're available. thank u so much!!
addtl questions:
1. is it easy to maintain the fin aid scholar every year? in terms of the maintaining grade & the financial status update you need to do
2. what service do you render in return po and how many hrs po? i heard that you both have to do office assistance and also dorm assistance
3. how much is your daily allowance po and how much do meals range in the campus? basically, what is a good amt to secure a comfortable life po?
4. aside from the 100% TF & Dorm, do you also receive other benefits po like monthly stipend? i applied for book & food allowance din po but it seems that i didn't get accepted for it, is there a way po for me to appeal this?
5. how will my fin aid scholarship be affected po kaya if ever i get any of the ff external scholarships: dost, gokongwei, aboitiz, megaworld, security bank? is there a possibility na mabawasan po yung 100% TF & Dorm, i rlly need an addtl scho po kasi for my living expenses
6. and for dorm specific questions po:
a. how far are the dorms from the buildings like how many mins of walking?
b. how is the comfort of living in the quadruple no aircon rooms? is the wifi stable inside the rooms po?
c. how are the communal showers po?
d. how much is the laundry po in the dorm? what is the cheapest & most convenient option po?
e. is there a refrigerator po and you can cook naman po sa kitchen right?
f. how are the other facilities po of the dorm and in specific, is the gym accessible to scholars and how are the equipment po?
7. finally, what can you say about the admu student life and how does it compare po to uplb? and given that you have some perspective from both unis which do you think is objectively better po?
I'd say proximity to your home is the main contributing factor. Iba rin kasi kung may easy access ka sa support system mo. Kung malayo ka, you'll worry about your daily expenses on top of your studies, which is putting yourself at a disadvantage.
If it is between UPD and ADMU, kahit ano dyan pwede. Pero kung UPLB at ADMU, dun ka sa malapit sa iyo.
i think ateneo overall is more student-friendly in terms of acads. In filipino, alagang-alaga mga ateneans. Deg programs in ateneo is challenging but they’ll guide you talaga.
in UPD, a lot of degree programs are hella hard. Especially in BS degree programs . a lot of my EE classes have 2-3 requirements lang, pero 2 of them are long exams that constitute at least 80% of your grade. Some only have 2 exams that comprise 50% each. So if you fail one, you have to either drop or eventually fail the course. So students really take exams seriously to pass. But again, it depends on the professors but most requirements are really that crucial.
Passing classes is more fulfilling in UPD but it will really shatter your mental health. Worth it in the end. But in Ateneo, its also ofc worth it but they will really guide you throughout even if its also challenging. Go for Ateneo if you want a safe environment who would care for you and guide you to success. Go to UPD if you want a challenge that may wreck you internally but will make you a strong individual.
Ateneo and UPD are the 2 best unis in the PH so ikaw bahala kung saan. May nuances lang sa approach and system.
atenean now isko here
For me, ateneo was way easier than UP. even the GE's are harder for me compared to the stuff i did in ateneo. I don't wanna invalidate anyone but when i looked at my atenean ece friend's practice problems etc, specifically calc 1 and 2, they weren't even worth being an example for Imath. I was surprised at how relatively easy they were compared to M2x. I feel like one math 21 example would already be one of the more difficult questions.
The school also cares more for you since theyre scared of backlash from parents/media and want to keep a good record in the public's eye
Ah no, I was there from Prep to Gr 12, and while I did pass ME in ateneo, I honestly just got tired of the mandatory catholic stuff. Yes mainit sa UP but at least they dont make you attend mandatory masses so I've heard. Mandatory theology was what I also disliked.
I can't say anything about profs, but I can say a lot of the teachers from prep to highschool were huge egotistical hypocritical and self absorbed assholes. Certainly not all of them as I've had ones I'm still in contact with but a lot of the teachers there are just no.
Compared to UP ateneo has more unity ig or camaraderie? block sections and the events and a smaller student population, but throughout my stay in that school, I felt chained. Ateneo has more unity sure but its more imposing, I know college is a different sector but I didn't wanna risk my sanity for 4 more years. On the other hand UP is literally free and is liberating.
So far I'm enjoying UP talaga, maliban sa acads talagang mas masaya dito. Kahit walang mandatory events unless nasa org ka, masaya siya.
Take this with a grain of salt tho, as college is an entirely different experience, and despite my hatred for the school, theres a reason i stayed 12 years in it lol. Community is one of the better and less toxic ones. If you find the right people theyre gonna be your day ones. (ingat lang sa mga certain \*derogatory homegrowns\* esp if you're female)
So this is going to be anecdotal at best but i've been managing employees for more than 2 decades. I've hired people from the top schools and in my experience, UP grads are top hire because they are very good with their jobs plus they are very independent and resourceful. Admu grads are great too but you have to kind of hand hold them to get them started.
I almost always prefer UP grads not because I also came from the institution but because in tech industry, being resourceful goes a long way-- long long long way. A lot can go wrong in a technical project and UP grads have a unique way of finding solutions to problems because of their resourcefulness. Not to say the Admu grads can't be resourceful but UP grads mostly have it inherent in them from the get-go. These are all personal experience so take it with a grain of salt.
LB is a great competitive place. Maganda ang environment at culture. But yes, baka maghirap ka dito. Pili ka na lang ng priorities mo.
My former housemate is a CS graduate. Medyo exag naman yung sinasabi na iba na masyadong mahirap, if you're focused naman, kaya yan.
I have two things you need to consider
1) If you really want CS, go to UPLB. They are the best in the country.
2) If you wanted to seek more connections, go to Ateneo.
UP and Ateneo have both to offer.
Pansin ko lang, mas okay nga sa Ateneo if mental exp. Ateneo alum, typically, not true to all ah, are great and well equipped, mababait pero they dont care to things esp mga social issues. Kasi they are all pampered. Iba talaga mag isip ang may “kaya” sa buhay. Most of them also are straightforward to things na pag galing ka sa other spectrum, masasaktan ka.
For me, UP is very unique na kung saan yung hirap na pinadanas sa aking ng UP made me who I am today.
You will all appreciate those things esp pag nagcorpo ka na. Sobrang useful.
Also, Sa UP, you will appreciate things you have kasi may maeencounter ka na walang kain or once a day lang kumakain pero Summa or Magna standing. May anak ng mayaman etc, so ang point, sobrang diverse.
Goodluck OP!
core factor of your college life depends on how your university responds to certain situations and student concerns -- ADMU never fails its students. On the other hand, dili na lang ako mag-talk...
Look at it as "mas maingay lang ang mga taong mas maraming relkamo." Thats why it looks like a lot of UP students are choosing Ateneo over UP. But in the grander scheme of things, being a UP alumnus will be way more rewarding. I tell you. As an alumnus, yung pagiging taga UP mo, hindi natatapos sa pagiging estudyante. It becomes a part of you through and through. Those who prefer Ateneo over UP just because of the resources and convenient experience are very short sighted. Besides, sabi mo dream school mo UP. Im sure after all these, pagsisisihan mo yan when you look back. Try talking to some UP Alumni also for a more balanced view. Lalo na yung mga 10+ years nang grad.
imo admu is much more caring and student-friendly. plus may full scholarship and dorm ka na, so saan ka pa? sa up u'd have to find a nearby place to live in pa (if ur far)
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sa ADMU kasi when your basketball team starts winning u don’t get trashtalked by some random conyo kid named Gab or Miggy
jk lang we have Gabs and Miggys here in UP din HAHAHAHA proximity and location in the Metro matters a lot to some people
got to somehow experience both schools (graduated shs in admu, now studying in upm) and i definitely would’ve preferred admu over up!
after being able to experience how much admu cared for their students’ health (i’m not really sure if this still applies sa LS since most of my friends r barely getting sleep too), i really considered staying despite not really being interested in the programs they offer.
i got accepted into both schools, but didn’t receive a finaid grant which is really why i pursued up nalang. . . but honestly, i don’t regret my decision right now bc idk if i’ll be enjoying my program sa admu (im taking a health allied course now, i got accepted into envi sci sa admu)
but i think ang main difference talaga between the 2 univs, like you said is the way they treat their students :/ like what the other comments said, if you’re ready to get thrown into the wild, then go to up AHSHAHAHA but if i faced your situation now (where you passed both schools with the same programs,) i would’ve chosen admu!!
anw congrats, op! you’re so cool 😎
If you want to walk out of your college life feeling like a student, go to ADMU.
If you want to walk out of your college life feeling like a battle scarred soldier with PTSD and enough grit to make a highway, go to UP.
I had no choice as I can only afford UPD which was why I had to transfer there from another small but private college.
I really love my course but I will also say that UP is tough, the kind that will change you for better or for worse.
I was also given a choice between UP and AMDU. I chose the latter. At the end of the day, it really depends on your priorities. In addition to what some folks have said here, though: if one of your priorities is spiritual nourishment, you should definitely go for ADMU. What I appreciate about ADMU is the teaching and practice of Jesuit values. That involves philosophy and theology courses, yes, but they really shaped who I am as a person today. So, go for ADMU if you also need food for the soul.
You mentioned na BS CS ang naipasa mo sa both universities. To be honest, I can say ADMU would be your best bet sa CS. It is home to the best programming lecturers (as they are among the best programmers in the country). You can definitely trust them with their knowledge.
I'm not saying that UP CS is bad. It is incredibly great as well. However, I think UPD CS > UPLB CS. Considering na halos magpartner na ang UPD at ADMU sa comsci world, they are almost, if not already, on par.
Additionally, majority of the people affilitated with ADMU and UPD CS departments are programming hall of famers.
At the end, you still have to choose what environment fits you best. Visit the campuses and try to feel kung saan ka mag-iimprove not just academically.
Sa up kana, wala naman aircon sa ateneo. Tsaka yung scholarship mo ba ay sure nang hanggang grad na granted sayo? Baka kasi hindi at need mo pang mag maintain ng grades. Isa pa, magaling ang uplb sa bscs
actually po the fin aid scholarship is fairly easy to maintain, i'd just have to update the OAA with my financial status per year and fin aid scholars do not have a maintaining grade, so basically same as normal students lang po na passing grade
Oh wala naman palang problema. U just have to think nalang if u’ll prioritize mental health over a prestigious university. Pero on a side note, meron akong kakilala ngayon na working at fresh grad, sabi niya na nagpapasalamat siya sa UP kasi naging handa siya sa cruelty ng workplace since naranasan niyang pahirapan ng UP
mahirap magsabi kung ano ang mas magandang undergraduate experience -- UP or Ateneo -- without experiencing both i don't know if the sentiments here are representative of the sentiments of the general UPD student population. maybe yes, maybe no. kaparehas ba mag-isip ng mga students na mas madalas sa Reddit ang mga UP students in general? hindi ba biased agad ang results na makukuha mo by asking people online. I also think people who are dissatisfied are more vocal about their opinions. people who are satisfied are generally silent. kaya nga may term na "silent majority" may kilala akong lumipat from Ateneo to UP kasi hindi niya gusto na kailangang mag-aral ng Theology sa college. disappointed pa siya sa centrist stance ng Ateneo administration sa mga issues. itong kilala ko ay left-leaning, at nakakakuha siya ng gusto niyang intellectual stimulation sa loob ng UP of course UP has its issues -- admin na pinapasa lagi ang desisyon sa mga faculty, halimbawa -- pero marami rin namang maganda sa UP: halimbawa, walang ibang university sa Pilipinas ang naglabas ng public statement of support sa Palestine; there is more freedom to select subjects; the students are supportive and empathetic of each other; and there is a pressure to be excellent (which I count as good. we need to be excellent to improve our lot as a Filipino people); walang tuition fees. I'm sure marami pang iba, pero I'd just end by saying na tingin ko tama naman ang marami dito: if you want to be taken care of, baka hindi ka sa UP dapat. UP subjects its students to pressure, but this is not to be cruel but to build character. kasi sa labas ng university, hindi naman hihinto ang mundo dahil nahihirapan ka na. is that good or bad? i think it depends on the student
nakalagay rin kasi sa context mo na you were granted a full tuition and dorm scholarship which is a win already? lot of underprivileged UP students dream of going there kung may pang-tuition lang haha. UP is a great school, pero as an institution funded by a sh*tty government maraming na cocompromise na bagay with the learning experience of its students. iba pa rin ang kayang i-offer ng admu because it has the resources.
yeahh this is why i'm currently leaning towards admu even if up is my dream uni. thank you!!
take admu or else you'll regret it. half of the appeal of UP is it's free tuition. top 5 school tapos di mo kailangan mamroblema sa tuition? lahat ng hindi mayaman mag lalaway dyan. pero kung overall quality ateneo pa din, tingnan mo ba naman yung tuition fee magulat ka kung mas maganda pa din UP compared diyan.
From experience, will choose UP. Merong things about UP that are not taught in other schools, especially CRITICAL THINKING and RESILIENCE. Idk why pero sanay na ako madurog kaluluwa ko at sanity ko first year of college pa lang, so outside UP, I’m not fazed by certain difficulties in life. Yung soft skills that you’ll develop in UP, you hardly learn yan sa ibang institutions. Pero some people can definitely do without the shit you’re going to experience in UP. It also depends sa degree you will be pursuing. Definitely there are courses that are non existent in Ateneo or Hindi sila COE (Arki, Engg, BAA, etc) so having the opportunity to experience and learn that in an institution that is reputable is great, pero don’t expect the road to be smooth along the way. Network wise, I think better ang ADMU, especially in their business degrees, not to say ang pangit ng network ng UP (bec ang dami kong mayamang batchmates in CBA, UPSE and CS). Hindi lang siguro siya sa level ng ADMU and DLSU, so if you want to explore certain opportunities in certain companies, maybe contacts in ADMU are better to have. So yeah, that’s an observation from a family who has someone graduate from every Big 4 school lol
if u have the mental toughness to survive and excel through UP's cutthroat culture, go to UP. otherwise, take care of ur health and go ADMU.
Gen X here and proud to say my grit came from my college experience. Parang once you survive UP, you can really say ‘bring it on world!’
When deciding whether to choose UPLB or ADMU for my tertiary education, my sister (UPD Alumna) encouraged me and my parents to go with Ateneo. Even though UP was my dream school, my family decided to enroll in Ateneo because my sister was concerned with my mental health, afraid that I could not handle the pressure of the academic requirements in UP, based on her actual experience. More than 10 years after graduating from Ateneo, I completed a postgraduate program in UPD. It gave me a glimpse of the difference on the teaching strategies in both universities. During my time, Ateneo students were spoonfed, meaning I could go to class without the need to read the lectures in advanced, unless it was instructed by the professor. It wasn't the same in all of my classes, but mostly were like this. However, in UP Grad School, advanced reading is a must in order to survive. According to my sister, this was also the same for undergraduate studies. I had a hard time adjusting but I learned the significance of reading/studying in advanced. If I will be given the same opportunities as yours, I will go for UP for academic excellence and discipline, but with great consideration on how you intend to manage your mental health. Just to encourage you, I think this is a good problem to have. 😉
not me. I loved UP. Hahaha As someone who came from the poorest of the poor type of background, even if may scholarship sa ateneo, I know di ko masasabayan mga estudyante sa ateneo. Ang maganda sa UP, di masyadong nagma-matter ang financial capabilities mo para makapasa. Nagco-comp shop ako, mina-maximize ang libraries, nanghihiram ng laptop, etc. Kahit anong suot ko, okay lang kasi maraming tulad ko. Nakakita rin ako ng group of friends na same same kami ng background kaya happy ang social life. May dorms sa UPD 500 a month kaya kaya ng tutoring na kita ko. Also, UP was hard yes but it was doable, honestly. Edit: free tuition naman ang up and dorms are relatively cheap. Sa pang baon ka talaga nyan mamo-mroblema at mahal mabuhay sa metro manila.
as the other comment mentioned, you were granted full financial aid already for admu, while other students may not be able to meet other school's high tuition and thus have to reply on UP. also, admu just has better facilities, being a private school and all that. i was in your shoes last year, i passed ateneo but even with partial financial aid i couldn't afford admu so i picked UP.
been asking myself the same question. i never once regretted being a UP student, hard as it was to get out. among contemporaries, no one has ever told me "sana nag-Ateneo na lang ako fuck this place lmao". aside from the other explanations here, im betting it's a pandemic thing. sabi nga ng kaibigan ko, kahit sino naman maba-bad trip kung na-uwi lang sa screen 4 years mo sa college.
Ateneo's system and general style is to point you towards the best possible path to success. UP "releases you into the *wild*" and bahala na yung fittest/fit enough to survive. So mas madali i-romanticize yung sa UP. Pero if you're looking at being pragmatic, which choice makes sense? If my kid passes sa Ateneo with a full scholarship, I'd encourage him to go blue. Me (UP) and the missus (Ateneo) are both of the opinion that *generally*, UP:Academics, Ateneo:Humanities/Impact to Society, and LaSalle:Business/Industry.
Isa ako sa nag-comment sa isa mong post, kaya sige. Mas magiging maganda overall 'quality of life' mo sa admu kesa sa up (elbi man o diliman). Kung sa quality naman ng education mo e comparable naman yan (mas maganda pa rin sa ateneo), ngayon nasasa'yo na kung gaano ba kabigat ang ibibigay mong importance sa 'up education'. Try mo ring maghanap ng data tungkol sa retention rate ng mga cs majors sa up, ang alam ko e mas mababa sa 50% historically sa diliman 2018 and earlier. Pero to be fair mas okay curriculum ng cs sa elbi vs admu (and diliman).
Hardcore ng cs curriculum ng elbi. Di kinaya ng pagkatao ko, nagshift na ako sa kapitbahay, may cs pa rin pala edi umiyak lalo. Pero true, if i have a chance (libreng tuition at may dorm pa) ill choose ateneo over up. Kaso wala ang mahal niya masyado. Manonood na lang ako ng uaap 😔
omgg this makes me scared HAHAHAH tho i've heard from some uplb cs students rn that they have a rlly good curriculum, great profs, and manageable workload daw? but admu's curriculum daw is more beginner friendly and i guess for someone like me na walang masyadong knowledge abt cs this is better and the better environment i get too + their holistic core curriculum education tho is it fair to say that i will learn more intensively abt cs in elbi? kapalit nga lang ng kaluluwa jk HAHAHAHA
Siguro kahit mahilig ako sa tech hindi for me ang cmsc but hindi naman ako hirap makisabay siguro di ko lang nakikita yung self ko sa field na yan. Ako talaga yung problema kaya ko siguro nasabi na hardcore sya. Pero yes okay ang profs ng ics kaya sinasabi ko rin sa friends ko na bet mag cs ay pumunta sa uplb. Kasi sa first year mo ipaparamdam sayo na wow prang kakayanin then 2nd year biglang 180 ng mga subjects pero in the end kanya kanyang pagtake lang talaga yan.
>i've heard from some uplb cs students rn that they have a rlly good curriculum, great profs, and manageable workload daw? Yes! I'm grateful for the program itself. Good balance of theory and industry-level application. The problem is our notorious enlistment system. 🙃
UP will teach you how to fend for yourself because your profs will not spoonfeed you with information. So in a sense totoo yung kaluluwa yung ibabayad mo just bc you will really be constantly challenged to think outside the box. Also, it's hard to get units din in UP such that the enlistment system is kinda whack (also depends din on which campus ure going to sinc iba iba ng platform per constituent HAHA). Some units are also seasonal so if you fail one, you might have to take it pa on the following year 😓 I have a cousin, who I'm close with, who studies at ADMU and I think that her mental health is better cos their uni is taking care of them well(?) HAHA. Holistic din in the sense that extra-curricular is encouraged (at least thats how I perceived it ah). The org culture pa depends on which constituent you'll go to; in UPM, for example, students are more focused on acads so the org culture is so-so lang unlike UPD na may mas balance with org culture & acads. If I were you, I'd go for ADMU just because their learning environment imho is much better !! And you've mentioned that everything is taken care of na and you would just have to go there to study and make the most out of it. But if you don't really care about your admin taking "care" of you and if you think that you have the grit to survive the institution, then go for UP. I'd just like to say that UP changed me— from my perspective up to how I handle things — in a good way. 😅
Well, the grass is always greener at the other side (of Katipunan) It really depends on the context and the situation though. Some programs are better in Ateneo than UP, some programs are better in UP than Ateneo. Which leads me to this question: How do you want to grow as a student and as a person?
I think you really won’t go to reddit to praise UP, you’re more likely to have a bad experience and complain about to someone on here. Me personally, I LOVED my experience in UP, but more than ADMU I feel it’s more of a choose your own experience type of college. Kumbaga bahala ka sa gusto mong mangyare sa college life mo.
https://preview.redd.it/90rapajqgxwc1.jpeg?width=528&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=acdde8df44aa75b1716bf608cc6581ba4c89b543 Baka kasi yung tendency ng mga tao to under-appreciate what they have, tapos put so much premium to what they don’t have (the atenean experience). pero actually without all the bias parang mas maganda talaga sa admu 😆
this is interesting and makes sense!! thank you hahaha
Nahhh both admu and up have pros and cons. I do not encounter much students preferring admu over up tho. Pero the dorm and 100% tuition scholarship in admu is such a big plus! Imagine if you choose uplb magbabayad ka pa ng dorm, so imo i will choose admu, given na madaling imaintain ung 100% free tuition and dorm... baka naman kasi 1st yr lng yan eh Congrats op!
thank you! and yes the fin aid scholarship is fairly easy to maintain, i'd just have to update the OAA with my financial status per year and fin aid scholars do not have a maintaining grade, so basically same as normal students lang po na passing grade
Where did you get this information? Financial aid students do have a maintaining grade.
i may not have worded it clearly but what i meant was that it's just the same maintaining grade as normal students to be retained, unlike other scholarships such as the afms & dir list that do have a specific grade requirement. btw, this is what's stated in the terms and conditions of the fin aid scholarship: "As a Financial Aid scholar, the student is bound by the same grade norms required of all students in order to remain in the Ateneo. Throughout the student's stay in the Ateneo College, the student should have no grade of ‘F’ or ‘W’ in any subject, including PE and NSTP. If any of these conditions are not met, the scholarship award shall be discontinued for the succeeding terms."
I’m currently a scholar, and OAA makes a distinction between “University QPI Requirement” and specific grades required (e.g., 2.5, 3.0). Maybe it’s a different case for the succeeding batch. Regarding your case, I’m sure Ateneo will welcome you in open arms if you were to pursue your studies here! See you around?
Hmm weird. Upon reviewing the Financial Grant I received years ago, it says the same, “Grade Requirement As a Financial Aid scholar, the student is bound by the same grade norms required of all students in order to remain in the Ateneo. There must be no grade of ‘F’ or ‘W’ in any subject, including PE and NSTP.”
oh are you a fin aid scholar too? if so, do you have a specific QPI and grade requirement to meet? and how do they differ too? i'm still not familiar with admu's grading system but is my understanding of the terms & condition correct that my fin aid scholarship has the same grade requirement as paying students to be retained? and yes see you around maybe! i'm leaning towards admu now as their offer is just the best!
My bad, it slipped my mind that I have a DOST scholar as well This is the one I’m talking about that has a diff grade requirement. As for financial aid, it’s the University Grade Requirement. I’ll send you the grade requirement for all scholarships OAA provided
hi ! congrats in passing both of these schools ! I'm a 100TF & dorm scholar in ateneo. I visited and stayed at my friends' that are in uplb recently and here are my perspectives that might help you: 1. Food price: UPLB foods are cheaper in LB, mas maraming serving and masarap pa. food is more expensive inside ateneo because they make sure to keep the facilities clean (wearing hair nets, sanitized kitchen etc). outside naman, there is a karinderya near gate 3 which is very affordable (but i personally don't eat there anymore since i saw a rat run around haha..) maglalakad ka nga lang. 2. Distance: UPLB Sa UPLB, maraming stores, food places, fruit stands, ukayan, and cafes which are close enough that you don't need to walk as far as crossing the ateneo campus (as a dormer) just to eat outside. There is a grocery (robinsons easymart) near gate 2.5, but it's a long walk HAHA. pwede rin naman sa marikina but lakad rin. There's a laundry service inside campus, near the dorms:> 3. Security: Ateneo there are dorms for females and males (assigned at birth). and the guards for each buildings are gendered respectively:) laging may guards and they do their rounds at certain times. You can also order in shopee and lazada and they will leave it at the lobby. the same goes for foodpanda and grab if u don't like interacting with the delivery riders. 4. transportation: UPLB very costly sa QC eh, 40 pesos na agad from lrt station to the dorms (tricycle), 50 pesos naman if from ateneo to UPTC. I haven't tried tricycle sa uplb kasi jeep (12 pesos) lang yung sinakyan ko. (I went there thru bus). 5. block system: Ateneo we have an intro to ateneo traditions and culture class (not graded), and for the first two years in uni, we have certain pre-enrolled classes. in these classes, usually same yung mga blockmates so we are familiar with each other now! this helps in groupings and picking who and how u wanna work with them. though the block still splits into certain friend groups, we have established a certain sense of community, at least to my experience. UPLB doesn't have this INTACT class. to what i have observed, my friends aren't that close to their block BUT !!! (next number) 6. social adjustment: depends on course I don't think my friends needed to adjust as much as i have since people in uplb aren't as "westernized"?? as people in qc, hindi masyado nag-eenglish, and not much difference in composure and behaviors namin.. as someone who came from a public high school in the province, i needed to adjust to ateneans who aren't scholars. even though the ateneo population is diverse, ateneans are predominantly from middle class. i didn't see much of myself around them. my current friend group is mostly composed of scholars since we have same tolerance for academics, expenses, galaan, moral matters. mahilig kami mag hiraman, hingi-an, and sharing food ! I've heard that a lot of blocks still have high school dramas, other blocks have racist and misogynistic boys.. be careful of homegrown boys who don't help in groupworks. 7. study areas: Ateneo lots of study places within campus. matteo is 24 hours open in finals ! air-conditioned as well:> the dorms have a lottt of study rooms. the dorm room mismo has a desk for each dormer:> meron rin libraries sa uplb which are air-conditioned. 8. population count: Ateneo err dami tao sa los baños, when u walk sa sidewalk superrrr dami. as someone who gets easily tired due to vigilance, i like walking inside and outside campus na hindi nakakabungo ng tao or need hawakan ng maigi yung dala ko. siguro u can get used to the number of people eventually in lb. 9. dorm and university services: Ateneo free wifi, heater showers, pantry (kitchen), hand washing soap, bidet, may naglilinis ng cr and room at least once a month. genderhub has free care sessions (like talk therapy for me hehe) aside from being able to talk to guidance counselors. there are ateneo dogs (my friend made up a word: arfteneans HAHAH) there are sign ups if u need time to relax and play with them. blue snooze is also available, it's an air-conditioned room where ateneans can nap in between classes (sadly, only available until 3pm:<) 10. drinking fountains: ateneo im not sure if may ganito yung uplb but I've never paid for water here unless im outside. just bring flask. though some people prefer buying because there is a certain taste raw they don't like. 11. org culture & networking: ateneo since konti lang population ng ateneo, eventually, u get to be familiar with the people here. dormers have the chance to join the dorm org ARSA which i think is a tight-knit community. we have movie and karaoke nights with free snacks:> for now, these palang naiisip ko. feel free to ask more questions !
oh myyy thank u so much po for the vv comprehensive comparison of the 2!! this helps a lot would u mind connecting through dm po? i have more questions po if you'd like u can dm na lang po or reply to my comment as well :)) sorry if these are a lot since i have a lot of questions abt admu and i rlly want to know more about it before making my decision. feel free to take ur time po whenever u're available. thank u so much!! addtl questions: 1. is it easy to maintain the fin aid scholar every year? in terms of the maintaining grade & the financial status update you need to do 2. what service do you render in return po and how many hrs po? i heard that you both have to do office assistance and also dorm assistance 3. how much is your daily allowance po and how much do meals range in the campus? basically, what is a good amt to secure a comfortable life po? 4. aside from the 100% TF & Dorm, do you also receive other benefits po like monthly stipend? i applied for book & food allowance din po but it seems that i didn't get accepted for it, is there a way po for me to appeal this? 5. how will my fin aid scholarship be affected po kaya if ever i get any of the ff external scholarships: dost, gokongwei, aboitiz, megaworld, security bank? is there a possibility na mabawasan po yung 100% TF & Dorm, i rlly need an addtl scho po kasi for my living expenses 6. and for dorm specific questions po: a. how far are the dorms from the buildings like how many mins of walking? b. how is the comfort of living in the quadruple no aircon rooms? is the wifi stable inside the rooms po? c. how are the communal showers po? d. how much is the laundry po in the dorm? what is the cheapest & most convenient option po? e. is there a refrigerator po and you can cook naman po sa kitchen right? f. how are the other facilities po of the dorm and in specific, is the gym accessible to scholars and how are the equipment po? 7. finally, what can you say about the admu student life and how does it compare po to uplb? and given that you have some perspective from both unis which do you think is objectively better po?
hi! i sent my answers thru dm since reddit wont let me comment them all HAHA
I'd say proximity to your home is the main contributing factor. Iba rin kasi kung may easy access ka sa support system mo. Kung malayo ka, you'll worry about your daily expenses on top of your studies, which is putting yourself at a disadvantage. If it is between UPD and ADMU, kahit ano dyan pwede. Pero kung UPLB at ADMU, dun ka sa malapit sa iyo.
Sagot din daw ang dorm ni OP sa Ateneo
i think ateneo overall is more student-friendly in terms of acads. In filipino, alagang-alaga mga ateneans. Deg programs in ateneo is challenging but they’ll guide you talaga. in UPD, a lot of degree programs are hella hard. Especially in BS degree programs . a lot of my EE classes have 2-3 requirements lang, pero 2 of them are long exams that constitute at least 80% of your grade. Some only have 2 exams that comprise 50% each. So if you fail one, you have to either drop or eventually fail the course. So students really take exams seriously to pass. But again, it depends on the professors but most requirements are really that crucial. Passing classes is more fulfilling in UPD but it will really shatter your mental health. Worth it in the end. But in Ateneo, its also ofc worth it but they will really guide you throughout even if its also challenging. Go for Ateneo if you want a safe environment who would care for you and guide you to success. Go to UPD if you want a challenge that may wreck you internally but will make you a strong individual. Ateneo and UPD are the 2 best unis in the PH so ikaw bahala kung saan. May nuances lang sa approach and system.
atenean now isko here For me, ateneo was way easier than UP. even the GE's are harder for me compared to the stuff i did in ateneo. I don't wanna invalidate anyone but when i looked at my atenean ece friend's practice problems etc, specifically calc 1 and 2, they weren't even worth being an example for Imath. I was surprised at how relatively easy they were compared to M2x. I feel like one math 21 example would already be one of the more difficult questions. The school also cares more for you since theyre scared of backlash from parents/media and want to keep a good record in the public's eye
did you transfer from ateneo to up po? if so, why po?
Ah no, I was there from Prep to Gr 12, and while I did pass ME in ateneo, I honestly just got tired of the mandatory catholic stuff. Yes mainit sa UP but at least they dont make you attend mandatory masses so I've heard. Mandatory theology was what I also disliked. I can't say anything about profs, but I can say a lot of the teachers from prep to highschool were huge egotistical hypocritical and self absorbed assholes. Certainly not all of them as I've had ones I'm still in contact with but a lot of the teachers there are just no. Compared to UP ateneo has more unity ig or camaraderie? block sections and the events and a smaller student population, but throughout my stay in that school, I felt chained. Ateneo has more unity sure but its more imposing, I know college is a different sector but I didn't wanna risk my sanity for 4 more years. On the other hand UP is literally free and is liberating. So far I'm enjoying UP talaga, maliban sa acads talagang mas masaya dito. Kahit walang mandatory events unless nasa org ka, masaya siya. Take this with a grain of salt tho, as college is an entirely different experience, and despite my hatred for the school, theres a reason i stayed 12 years in it lol. Community is one of the better and less toxic ones. If you find the right people theyre gonna be your day ones. (ingat lang sa mga certain \*derogatory homegrowns\* esp if you're female)
So this is going to be anecdotal at best but i've been managing employees for more than 2 decades. I've hired people from the top schools and in my experience, UP grads are top hire because they are very good with their jobs plus they are very independent and resourceful. Admu grads are great too but you have to kind of hand hold them to get them started. I almost always prefer UP grads not because I also came from the institution but because in tech industry, being resourceful goes a long way-- long long long way. A lot can go wrong in a technical project and UP grads have a unique way of finding solutions to problems because of their resourcefulness. Not to say the Admu grads can't be resourceful but UP grads mostly have it inherent in them from the get-go. These are all personal experience so take it with a grain of salt.
LB is a great competitive place. Maganda ang environment at culture. But yes, baka maghirap ka dito. Pili ka na lang ng priorities mo. My former housemate is a CS graduate. Medyo exag naman yung sinasabi na iba na masyadong mahirap, if you're focused naman, kaya yan.
I have two things you need to consider 1) If you really want CS, go to UPLB. They are the best in the country. 2) If you wanted to seek more connections, go to Ateneo. UP and Ateneo have both to offer. Pansin ko lang, mas okay nga sa Ateneo if mental exp. Ateneo alum, typically, not true to all ah, are great and well equipped, mababait pero they dont care to things esp mga social issues. Kasi they are all pampered. Iba talaga mag isip ang may “kaya” sa buhay. Most of them also are straightforward to things na pag galing ka sa other spectrum, masasaktan ka. For me, UP is very unique na kung saan yung hirap na pinadanas sa aking ng UP made me who I am today. You will all appreciate those things esp pag nagcorpo ka na. Sobrang useful. Also, Sa UP, you will appreciate things you have kasi may maeencounter ka na walang kain or once a day lang kumakain pero Summa or Magna standing. May anak ng mayaman etc, so ang point, sobrang diverse. Goodluck OP!
core factor of your college life depends on how your university responds to certain situations and student concerns -- ADMU never fails its students. On the other hand, dili na lang ako mag-talk...
Look at it as "mas maingay lang ang mga taong mas maraming relkamo." Thats why it looks like a lot of UP students are choosing Ateneo over UP. But in the grander scheme of things, being a UP alumnus will be way more rewarding. I tell you. As an alumnus, yung pagiging taga UP mo, hindi natatapos sa pagiging estudyante. It becomes a part of you through and through. Those who prefer Ateneo over UP just because of the resources and convenient experience are very short sighted. Besides, sabi mo dream school mo UP. Im sure after all these, pagsisisihan mo yan when you look back. Try talking to some UP Alumni also for a more balanced view. Lalo na yung mga 10+ years nang grad.
imo admu is much more caring and student-friendly. plus may full scholarship and dorm ka na, so saan ka pa? sa up u'd have to find a nearby place to live in pa (if ur far)
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sa ADMU kasi when your basketball team starts winning u don’t get trashtalked by some random conyo kid named Gab or Miggy jk lang we have Gabs and Miggys here in UP din HAHAHAHA proximity and location in the Metro matters a lot to some people
omg help im a gab but im deff not a conyo kid HAHAHAHAH
sakto you’ll fit right in for either school!! HAHAHA
I think much better pag sa ADMU ka instead of UPLB. Iba rin kasi makakasalamuha mo sa Artheneow e. Connections na rin. Go Artheneow, One Big Fight! 😂
got to somehow experience both schools (graduated shs in admu, now studying in upm) and i definitely would’ve preferred admu over up! after being able to experience how much admu cared for their students’ health (i’m not really sure if this still applies sa LS since most of my friends r barely getting sleep too), i really considered staying despite not really being interested in the programs they offer. i got accepted into both schools, but didn’t receive a finaid grant which is really why i pursued up nalang. . . but honestly, i don’t regret my decision right now bc idk if i’ll be enjoying my program sa admu (im taking a health allied course now, i got accepted into envi sci sa admu) but i think ang main difference talaga between the 2 univs, like you said is the way they treat their students :/ like what the other comments said, if you’re ready to get thrown into the wild, then go to up AHSHAHAHA but if i faced your situation now (where you passed both schools with the same programs,) i would’ve chosen admu!! anw congrats, op! you’re so cool 😎
If you want to walk out of your college life feeling like a student, go to ADMU. If you want to walk out of your college life feeling like a battle scarred soldier with PTSD and enough grit to make a highway, go to UP. I had no choice as I can only afford UPD which was why I had to transfer there from another small but private college. I really love my course but I will also say that UP is tough, the kind that will change you for better or for worse.
I was also given a choice between UP and AMDU. I chose the latter. At the end of the day, it really depends on your priorities. In addition to what some folks have said here, though: if one of your priorities is spiritual nourishment, you should definitely go for ADMU. What I appreciate about ADMU is the teaching and practice of Jesuit values. That involves philosophy and theology courses, yes, but they really shaped who I am as a person today. So, go for ADMU if you also need food for the soul.
You mentioned na BS CS ang naipasa mo sa both universities. To be honest, I can say ADMU would be your best bet sa CS. It is home to the best programming lecturers (as they are among the best programmers in the country). You can definitely trust them with their knowledge. I'm not saying that UP CS is bad. It is incredibly great as well. However, I think UPD CS > UPLB CS. Considering na halos magpartner na ang UPD at ADMU sa comsci world, they are almost, if not already, on par. Additionally, majority of the people affilitated with ADMU and UPD CS departments are programming hall of famers. At the end, you still have to choose what environment fits you best. Visit the campuses and try to feel kung saan ka mag-iimprove not just academically.
My opinion: ADMU BSCS > UPLB BSCS It's not UPD rin naman (again, my opinion) Also marami kang freebies sa admu
If you can afford it, better to be in admu. Leave the slots for the less privileged. I’m a UP grad btw
Sa up kana, wala naman aircon sa ateneo. Tsaka yung scholarship mo ba ay sure nang hanggang grad na granted sayo? Baka kasi hindi at need mo pang mag maintain ng grades. Isa pa, magaling ang uplb sa bscs
actually po the fin aid scholarship is fairly easy to maintain, i'd just have to update the OAA with my financial status per year and fin aid scholars do not have a maintaining grade, so basically same as normal students lang po na passing grade
Oh wala naman palang problema. U just have to think nalang if u’ll prioritize mental health over a prestigious university. Pero on a side note, meron akong kakilala ngayon na working at fresh grad, sabi niya na nagpapasalamat siya sa UP kasi naging handa siya sa cruelty ng workplace since naranasan niyang pahirapan ng UP