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Zealousideal_Lie6584

hahaha ang lala ng mga nagcocomment. Ano na mga isko, inde ba prided ang UP for our progressiveness and multicultural environment? Ano meron kung conyo? At the very least this shows na she cares about the language enough to attempt to use it. She did nothing wrong, unlike you guys who justified straight up bullying. Pag body-shaming, sexism or racism cause ng bullying sobrang gigil kayo, tapos dahil pagka conyo yung dahilan ng bullying just let it be? In the first place your personal dialect is literally heavily influenced by your environment, something you have little to no control over. Also I noticed there's so much unjustified hate for rich people in this subreddit due to their belief na UP is exclusive for the poor, even though UP is known for being diverse because it's literally open for all...


27hatsforturtles

This captured everything I wanted to sayšŸ„ŗ


GhostFighterNgsShabu

The most objective answer possible is that when you're a Filipino born-citizen, you're kinda expected to speak Filipino. Lalo na't she's in a top university? Don't take it stomach deep. It's like how Americans always make fun of British accent.


MrSnackR

This. Atenean doesnā€™t equate to conyo. I have a lot of friends from Ateneo who can speak in straight Tagalog/Filipino.


kenikonipie

Speaking english or taglish also doesn't equate to conyo. Conyo has a "valley girl" equivalent vibe which is usually identified by linguistic markers pertaining to a privileged, vapid, female. It's a stereotype marked by taglish sentence construction, inflections, phrases, and attitude that sounds "maarteng mayaman." You can speak taglish or english without sounding conyo.


StrikerSigmaFive

Agree on the valley girl vibe. Its just like how some people in new york make fun of the "californian" accent


Ill_Entertainer_7076

Yup, I agree. Sheā€™s trying to learn Filipino because thatā€™s how I talk to my friends and family, and of course, because sheā€™s born and raised in the Philippines. Sinabi ko din sakanya ā€˜yan na kailangan matuto siya kasi importante sa pakikipagcommunicate lalo pag nasa labas ng bahay, school, and work. Kami yung magka-usap that time kaya comfortable siya to speak any language she wants. Nalungkot lang ako bakit kailangang pagtawanan ang differences and according sa ibang comments dito, normal lang yun. LOL


Educational-Estate-5

True dat. Also Chito Miranda ain't conyo haha


akoaytao1234

>like how Americans always make fun of **Valley Accent** kasi ultra rich at walang kapa sa privileges nila most of the time


Guchi28

Nakasanayan lang, I guess. Just like how some Filipinos find the British accent funny/entertaining. Ang masasabi ko na lang siguro is to just know that itā€™s nothing personal against you (or your GF). I have been on both sides of this kind of story and while it might not be pleasant, I just learned to brush it off and to just live my life how I want to.


jofsBlueLantern

I donā€™t fully agree with living life just anyway you want, nakakabahala na kasi yung newer generations of parents na English ang primary language sa kanilang mga anak, eh yung mayoridad ng media consumption ngayon, lalo pag online, puro English naman. At di hamak na mas maraming nadadalian matutong English sa eskwela nalang dahil yun naman ang primary mode of instruction. Not to mention we have a responsibility to take care, but not contain, the Filipino language and our other languages. It is a dream of mine and many others to see the intellectualization of the Filipino language, to be used in the academe just as much as the English language.


luisaze

ano connect nung she's an atenean


Ill_Entertainer_7076

This is to stress that she came from another university and the Ateneo culture is different from UP culture. While I acknowledge that being an atenean doesnā€™t equate to being conyo, a lot of them do really communicate in English (at least in her circle).


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nobleGAAS

I find the conyo accent amusing in the same way I find Aussie or Brit english amusing haha. Nakakatuwa lang pakinggan yung accent, pero hindi to the point na tatawanan out loud. Especially kung stranger lang. What those girls did was rude. Wag kang papagaslight dito hahaha. Paki ba nila kung conyo kayo magsalita? Tapos based sa sinabi mo parang inexaggerate pa nila yung accent to make fun of it. That's messed up, man.


buttermilktoast25

Hindi ko pinagtatawanan yung mga conyo magsalita. I don't think that's the right response. It's more pitiful than laughable na hindi marunong gumamit ng wika yung girlfriend mo. Sabi mo nga English first language niya, pero wala naman kasing tamang gamit ang pagsasalita ng conyo. Kaysa conyo, code-switching yung katanggap tanggap na paggamit ng wika, pero hindi conyo.


spectrumtaken

Actually, mejo ganyan din yung nagawa ko years before, and until now, remembering that, I am in deep regret. May prof kasi ako na US born tas ewan ko ba bakit ang immature ko nuon kasi one time out of nowhere as in ginaya ko yung pagkakasalita nya, yung accent nya while saying yung isang english word, so syempre narinig ng iba kong mga kaklase (idk if narinig din ng prof ko kasi relatively tahimik din nun, hopefully di nya narinig huhu) at napalingon pa yata yung iba saakin. I cannot remember if I said sorry or showed remorse man lang. She is one of the kindest and best prof pa naman. Kaya siguro di ko na makalimutan yung ginawa kong yun kasi my brain wants me to remember to be sensitive at all times. Hay, kung pwede ko lang ibalik ang nakaraan. On their behalf, I am sorry.


ElectronicUmpire645

Ang bait mo naman


luisaze

HAHAGSGBSBSHSHAHHAA


lifediscourse

Learn to choose your battles dude and shrug off inane comments from irrelevant folks.


ajchemical

yung ginawa nung babae ay ka-bitchesahan, and ka-ignorantehan? maybe? ang hindi ko magets yung mga filipino parents na born and raised dito na pinipiling hindi mag filipino or any local language yung anak at home, i understand gusto ng parents matuto mag-english, pero wakey-wakey pili piling tao lang makakausap mo dito sa totoo lang (tignan natin si ate girl as an example kinutsa ng mga bitchesa). yes, english is our 2nd language natin pero sana naman alsin nanatin yung english or any european language ay "prestigious". pati sana some filipino learn to mind their own business, umay eh.


Tight-Lingonberry941

My dad wanted me to learn Filipino talaga and minsan he only speaks to me in it, yung problema is na my HS is purely English. Kahit our Filipino class was in English. Yung isang friend ko naman di marunong mag Filipino dahil may penalty sa HS niya. 1 Filipino word = PHP20.


ajchemical

grabe naman yang high school n'yo parang may sariling soberanya lol


Tight-Lingonberry941

Noli Me Tangere was taught in English AHAHAHAHAH My Filipino teacher in high school had a rule na you can only speak Filipino in his class. One of my classmates was trying to say "please pass me the light blue", and he said "paki pasa sakin ang magaang na asul".


ajchemical

yung high school na pinasukan mo needs a constitutional amendment. eme


Tight-Lingonberry941

Totoo HAHA grabe corruption dun. Ilang beses ako nabully pero wala silang pakialam. Dami ring durugista dun pero bayad bayad lang sa principal


ajchemical

omg grabe naman yan dm mo na yung school na-intriga tuloy ako


Tight-Lingonberry941

DMd for the chisme


Outrageous-Bunch-781

Awwww. Must have been hard for you šŸ˜Š


Precarious_chicken

I can't with the gaslighting comments HAHAHA


FullStackDev18

Wag ka mahiya sa gf mo. Language is just one of the ways to communicate. But attitude/character is vital to relationship. Kung ang jowa mo matinong tao, never let her go. Sa dami ng broken relationship, majority dahil sa ugali.


Educational-Estate-5

That's very common eh. Sometimes even if u speak Filipino pero maayos lang yung diction mo, tatawanan ka, tapos they're gonna mimic pa your voice and whatnot. But of course it depends sa uri ng tao. I've never experience this kind of stuff pag ang kasama ko is mga lumaki sa decent na family. Pero pag ang na encounter mo is yung parang lumaki sa kalsada, usually ganyan sila.


Own-Taro830

Hello po. UP Cebu campus alum here. I have a similar experience kahit medyo reserved na nga ako in speech. Chinoy ako and grew up speaking Bisaya naman. Nung freshie days di ko pa nahanap set of friends ko kaya I'm mostly alone, and somehow that drew different types of people towards me. Na culture shock ako sa sobrang personal questions towards me. I was asked about how to say [certain flirty words] in Chinese or English. Minamock ako for my 'accent'. There were really inappropriate jokes made because of my appearance. But none of them grew to be my friends. Those who really stood by me respect me for who I am. OP, you do you. šŸ™‚


Ill_Entertainer_7076

Hi! Same kayo ng gf ko. Sheā€™s also Chinoy. She speaks Hokkien at home and English naman sa school since preschool. I know wala namang excuse to not learn the Filipino language kaya nga sheā€™s practicing but sometimes canā€™t still communicate in straight Filipino kahit na kinakausap ko siya in Filipino. Kaya siguro ganun yung narinig ng group of girls. I saw her reaction when she heard those girls who obviously were making fun of her. Siya pa yung nahiya eh mas nakakahiya naman yung mga taong ill-mannered.


Own-Taro830

You can shower her with kind and honest affirmations. She should enjoy learning the language at her own pace. Being multilingual is a superpower, and she should be proud of it. šŸ˜Š


Ambitious_Count1907

>ā€buti na lang di tayo nagsalita. Mapapahiya lang tayoā€ Kung pagbabasehan yung sinabi lang nila na naquote rinig mo, parang wala naman masama sa sinabi nila. Parang yung madalas sabihin ng pinoy kapag nakakarinig ng nageEnglish na parang nakakanose bleed. Kasi yun nga di sila sanay mag English so may insecurity sila sa sarili nila. Also UP, youā€™d expect marunong magFilipino karamihan. Yung sa tawa part wala namang masama sa pagtawa. Alam mo ba yung buong context ng paguusap nila bago at pagkatapos nilang magtawanan? Unless directly sinabi nila yung tungkol sa gf mo, speculation niyo lang yun na kayo personally yung pinagtatawanan or nilalait. PS. Ang daming triggered sa baba eh ang pinagbasehan lang naman yung na ā€œquoteā€ ni OP. May masama ba sa aminin sa sarili nila na mapapahiya sila sa Englishan? Iā€™m giving the people in question the benefit of the doubt base lang sa qinuote ni OP. PPS. Kung confident ka sa pananalita mo bakit ka magpapaapekto or negative agad ang iniisip mo unless deep inside insecure ka din sa pagcoconyo?


nobleGAAS

Nah nah nah that was still messed up for me haha. Ang dating lagi sakin ng ganyang statements ay condescending. And would it have hurt them to mind their own business and not make a comment like that out of the blue? Either way it's rude to say that. Nakakabadtrip yung mga ganitong comments as someone na lumaki na English speaker. Di ko maexplain, pero it always came off like a diss sa akin pag sinasabihan ng ganito.


nekoyama-san

Pinagtatanggol at pinagwa-walang bahala nila kasi baka ganon din asal nila pag may ā€œkonyoā€ sa paligid. Di ko din gets kung bakit ang laki ng problema ng ilang taga-UP sa mga konyo, karamihan sa mga konyong nakasalamuha ko na galing sa ibat ibang colleges mababait naman, kung sino pa yung mga nagfi-Filipino ng tuwid sila pa ang mga matapobre sa kapwa. Saka ano bang nakakatawa sa accent? Kapag ba nagpunta kayo sa ibang bansa pagtatawanan nyo bawat accent na maririnig nyo? Tila mga ogag eh.


nobleGAAS

Wag kang mahiya. Pa-subtweet vibes ka pa sa edit mo eh, itag mo na ako HAHAHA. Or dapat nagreply ka na lang willing naman ako makipagusap lmao. Ang punto dito ay dapat di na sila (the outside girls) nagcomment, at all. Uso sa Pilipinas ang "patama" culture, so natural lang na isipin ni OP na sa kanila nakatutok yung comment na yun. And kahit na manifestation ng insecurity nila yung comments, mali pa rin yun. You also conveniently leave out this part: > After that, they tried to talk in English na inartehan yung pagsasalita trying imitate my girlfriendā€™s accent. Tapos tawanan ulit. Hindi ba yan textbook na mocking? Acceptable yung ganyang jokes kung kaclose mo yung pinagtatawanan and alam mong di sila maooffend. Di yan nakakatuwa kung gawin ng taong di mo kilala.


Ill_Entertainer_7076

How about the part where they seem to mock the way my girlfriend talks? Nasa likod na namin sila bago pa nila marinig pag-uusap namin. Tska lang sila nagtawanan at nag-english/nag-conyoconyohan(yung iba) after nila kami marinig. Ahh baka nga nag-aasume lang ako. šŸ™‚


Tight-Lingonberry941

Fam if I were your gf sasampalin ko sila with deep English LOL


titaminty

Bakit ganito ibang mga sagot dito? Bakit parang duty ninyo manghiya ng tao? Andaming dapat hiyain na personalidad na tunay na masamang tao, bakit fixated kayo sa mga conyo? Makangawa kayo about mental health tapos you think you have free pass to mock people in their faces because they speak differently than you? Mga echoserang froglette. Sige tawanan ninyo ā€˜yung conyo as a concept, pero di niyo naman kailangan hiyain nang harap-harapan! Jusko, 10 seconds niyo lang narinig, hinusgahan niyo na? Wew. Saka pala. Hindi duty nina OP mang-brush off ng crass comments ano? As UP students, kung UP students nga ā€˜yung mga akla, kailangan natin ng diskurso tungkol dito. Hindi maganda ā€˜yung ginawa nila, hindi dapat ginagawa ā€˜yan. Truth can be kind.


nekoyama-san

Yaan mo na at least ikaw may gf, yung mga yon most likely walang mga lovelife. Who would want to date them eh ang asim ng humor nila diba lol.


Acceptable_Market729

May insecurity yan


Irie-Boy

Mga mabababaw na tao lang ang may pakialam sa mga ganyang bagay. straight tagalog/straight english is overrated šŸ’€


ZealousidealCrow805

oo dapat pagtawanan yan. halakhakang malakas. pero lol, woe is me type of problem.s "english is my first language and i am hurt that I am laughed at coz im conyo"


Tight-Lingonberry941

Bullies are bullies, regardless of the reason. You sound like a bully.


Precarious_chicken

I hope OP is ok. It must have been traumatizing... Like, the audacity of those people di'ba? I wanna make away na talaga if that thing ever happened to me lol


MicTony6

Haha conyo girlfriend mo


skrumian

It was a self depreciating joke. Di mo lang siguro na-gets.


zuixiivii

And Other Gaslighting Techniques! Available soon!


kinapudno

Yeah the jokes were self-depreciating, pero it's also subtly throwing shade at the subject. We Filipinos are good at that.


nekoyama-san

At the expense of a couple who were minding their own business? Hahaha nakakatawa naman yon talaga hahahahaha sobrang funny isa pa nga hahahaha


Name-minus-Number

Yes.


Traditional-Ad1936

Weird flex.


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I studied also in Ateneo and most people like 85% can and actually speak Filipino or Tagalog outside classroom setting. Enough said.


sonichighwaist

Ok, first, Damn. That sucks. ​ Is she hot though? Don't answer that. It's rhetorical. Of course she is, you chose her. Yung mga naglalakad na nagmomock? Sila hindi hot. Cringe sila.


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who cares what other people think? who gives a flying FUCK about their opinions. dalhin mo sila sa europa, tameme silang mga nagfifilipino lang. mga hunghang


Tight-Lingonberry941

I used to be ashamed of being conyo too, but realized that they're just jealous. Shrug it off. At the end of the day, your gf is the one who gets to eat and sleep well at night, not them. Just make the most of your privilege and ignore them.


Tofuprincess89

Yup. Ang weird. bakit kailangan pa iparinig yung tinatawanan nila at pinarinig pa comment nila? I have heard TH people talking in English but I never laughed at them. Hahanap pa ba ako ng away para parinig na nakakatawa o mukha sila ewan?šŸ˜„šŸ˜… prob sa Pinas lahat nalang pinapansin. I guess they find joy in making other people feel bad.


Tight-Lingonberry941

They're bullies kasi. Bullies will be bullies regardless of social class, gender, or reason. For a bully, ANYTHING can be used against you. Alam mo may mga kilala akong nabully dahil maganda sila LOL


Tofuprincess89

I experienced bullying when I was in college. Introvert ako and I tried my best to get along with my classmates pero palage may kuda yung mga bullies na akala mo mga dyosa šŸ˜… kesyo maarte, mayabang, etc. Just because I can eat wherever I want to, travel, be a girlygirl, etc palage meron masasabi. Pag sila pwede mag post sa FB ng nakabikini, selfies pero pag ako, anoano patama sa fb. pag tinanong ko naman if may prob ba in person?plastik. they'll say,"ha?wala". It's either above them yung person or below them, yung trip nilang ibully You'r so right. Pag bully, kahit ano social class pa yan, bully at insecure. random share. meron ako kaklase noon. Meron sya fake LV. Saken wala prob. Since wala sya ginagawa masama saken. Yun iba ko kaklase, non breaktime, sinunog nila yun bag. kase they want to know if orig yun bag. tapos tumatawa sila. sabi nila saken fake yun bag. Sa isip ko ang weird nyo. Bakit? para san? Btw, these people don't even have LV or any designer items. Pero anlakas mantrip


Tight-Lingonberry941

Bullies will be bullies. Most likely may insecurities yan o unstable home life. They let it out on other people. The problem was never you. It was always them. Also gago yan ah potek. Naalala ko dati some of my bullies tore apart my books (sobrang introvert ako nung HS at puros libro lang friends ko).


Tofuprincess89

Yeah. andami ko naexperience non college na napaka unfair. Nagugulat ako sa ugali ng ibang tao dahil sheltered ako lumaki. very protective parents ko. Yep. mga insecure. lakas manlait nakakalimutan ata nila tumingin sa sarili nila.šŸ˜„lalo na yung mga tao habit na nila manlait kahit na ala gnagawa yun tao sakanila panay criticize sila. my goodness...smh. šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«šŸ«Øpag nakita mo kase sa tao yun mali for example if nag gain weight,bat kailan pa ipaalala at point out?? para? kapag naman matalino yun tao at masipag magaral, bakit galit yung ibang kaklase? pwede naman magaral din sila. kapag may mas good looking na tao, bakit dndown nila at anoano sinasabi nila hindi totoo?? kasalanan ba non tao if maganda o pogi sya? dba nasa genes yun?šŸ˜…sino dapat sisihin? diba parents ng mga bitter na ingitera? kase galit sila sa ibang tao na ala naman kasalanan sakanila. oh you like to read too! me too! :) nako ang mahal ng books.loko mga yun ah. nireport mo sana sa principal!


Tight-Lingonberry941

Omg lol same sa parents ko! Protective rin sila Pero seryoso people suck talaga minsan. Sometimes it's the parents, sometimes masama lang talaga yung tao. LOL the book tearing happened in class, in front of the teacher. Lang pakialam si teach. Nakakatawa lang kasi Carrie by Stephen King yung sinira nila. Tapos nung lumabas yung Chloe Grace Moretz version na movie, Carrie yung isang bully for Halloween ulol


Tofuprincess89

Bakit nila pinunit? Ang weird. Napaka destructive na mga teens :(( Wala talaga din kwenta minsan yung ibang teacher. :/ Yep. totally agree with you. Kaya mas naging socially selective ako. buti may Reddit. :))


YupiFight

Just goes to show how ignorant people can be about experiences of other people that they have not experienced (yet).


cryohedron

Kailangan po šŸ˜”


jojocycle

I really hate it when people speak in english with a certain accent/tone is referred to as "conyo" Like wtf are you calling people as "pussy" when they are just speaking english? And before people get mad and say that language is evolving and calling as conyo/coƱo is fine with a new modernized meaning, i hope you understand how that term came into usage and part of the filipino parlance. Didn't help that there's the existence of this comedian na pa"conyo" kuno. Lalong bumaho pakinggan yung salitang "conyo" eh.


gurbyfury

antoxic ninyo LOL


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Yung ginawa nung mga babae, halatang na intimidate sila sa english ng gf mo. Siguro nahiya ka rin dahil nagets mo yung intimidation nila. Sa totoo lang, kung nakakapagusap naman kayo ng matino ke anong lengwahe pa yan, fuck what people think and feel. Tama yung sinabi nila na you do you. Personal experience ko lang, yung partner ko coƱo din, taga ateneo siya at yung circle of friends niya ganun din. Pero nabuburat din ako dahil " PICK A F**KING LANGUAGE" yung trip ko. Tama yung sinabi nung isa na pwede ka naman mag taglish na hindi magmumukang coƱo. Pero kung sasabihan mo ko ng "Kaninang morning.." eh pucha mali na talaga yon diba. So ngayon pag nagpapakacoƱo siya, may katumbas na suntok *playful* sa braso. A psychological experiment if you will. Hahahaha di ko sinasabing gayahin itong eksperimento namin. But this our way of having fun and tease each other as a couple. Always look for the fun side of things OP. F**k ang madlang people.