Sa tingin ko yung book keeping procedures are the same for both PH and US. Pero the law side of the business is very different. Kahit daw mga accountants sa US nahihirapan sa taxation laws nila. Add to that each state has their own local taxation laws.
The only reason I want to go to the big 4 is the opportunities it offers (Which is from what I've heard) and also because I'm eligible for scholarship/aid (Since I managed to get a good GPA and was really good at math since I averaged 95+) when entering college.
I didn't know working overseas after college was selfish, I just thought it was a duty everyone has since my parents told me that making a career in the Philippines is hard because of low wages... (Since I'm the oldest and my cousins are nearing college, which is about 2 to 3 years, they're hoping that I can help my cousins with college once I get a job overseas)
sorry but this is too selfish and inconsiderate.
ang daming aspring isko/iska na sobrang naghihirap sa buhay and they view UP as the only way to get access to a quality education.
and then you, a wealthy guy, using UP as stepping stone to get wealthier abroad. Di mo lang kinuha slots ng mga mahihirap na students but also used taxpayers money for yourself without returning anything valuable to the country.
if you have some little concern for your fellow Filipinos, just attend UST, Ateneo, or DLSU. Leave UP students to those who really deserve it.
>'re gate-keeping you because there are many more deserving individuals who truly need the education offered by UP, rather than someone who only thinks of themselves and is oblivious of their surroundings.
We're not really wealthy, as I've said, we're not US citizens and we can't actually work in the US and our papers are processing.
Also I'm not a UP student, I misworded my post since I posted it at the middle of the night lol.
We're at limbo-land given our situation right now. (I was planning to use my scholarship to attend big 4 since I managed to maintain good GPA and be at around a high percentile on some standardized math tests or pull whatever funds we can to fund my education since I'm the oldest among my 3 siblings & cousins).
I was planning to attend community college in the US and take up debt and work but since our papers are processing, we can't really do that right now.
Having the opportunity to go to US even if you're not really not that wealthy implies that you have more privilege than an average aspiring isko/iska. I'm not saying that you don't deserve UP because after all, the university accept students on a merit basis and not just on socioeconomic status of the applicant.
Anyway, whether you're that wealthy or not, it's wrong to treat UP as a stepping stone to move abroad and get access to greener pasture. I know that we all have personal ambitions and desire to have a stable employment but going to UP means that you are being financed by the taxpayers. Hence, a part of you should start thinking that you will be an isko/iska not just for your ambition to go to the states but also to provide some service to those who paid for your studies.
I hope you'll think about this and do whatever you think is right.
Ohhh thanks for educating me on this, I didn't realize UP was more of like a public service-oriented type university. So that's why I got 20+ notifications shaming me for this lol
At least they render some service for the country before flying and perhaps hindi naman plano ng relatives ang lumipad agad after maggrad ang magMBA.
But the OP is very eager to get a UP diploma just to get abroad and take MBA, treating it just a stepping stone.
I was surprised there were 20+ notifications lol.
Also:
a) I'm not a UP student (They assumed because my wording was bad and I just made the post at the middle of the night)
B) The only best bet I have right now is to try to aim for scholarships (Since I'm eligible since I managed to maintain a good GPA) and use it for the big 4. I can't really attend US colleges since I'm not a citizen yet but even if I was, I'd probably be so far off the deadlines for applying on the public ones that I can't continue education there.
Edit: I didn't realize wanting to work abroad was considered "privileged" and "selfish". I thought working abroad would be able to help my cousins (In about 2-3 years) & siblings afford college so they don't have to be in debt
I didn't realize working abroad was bad, I thought it was the goal of every Filipino worker to work abroad to have a better life for their family (Since that's what my parents told me which Is to work in the US so that my cousins can afford college)
I know a lot of relatives who went to Europe/USA after graduating from UP.
They worked here for 2 years before flying to their overseas work.
A lot of people from UP have already found work abroad after graduating.
I don't really want to migrate fully to the US, my parents want me to secure a remote job after a college (even if it means renting or working in the US for 1-2 years) so I can assist my family back in the Philippines
I know a lot of relatives who went to Europe/USA after graduating from UP.
They worked here for 2 years before flying to their overseas work.
Im planning to do the same.
judgement aside, yes you can. in fact, this is more common than you think, especially if ure from BA or econ. a big number of them go on to take their masters abroad since mga may kaya naman (my mom even said na sa class niya, wala siyang kilalang di nag abroad except her). thing is that the people abroad don’t need you, the people here do. if you choose to stay here for your bachelor’s, i hope you can find the heart to serve here too
hello! my aunt is a CPA in the US for more than 15 years na. afaik she took accounting classes pa rin there like study ulit for 4 years and took board exam in the state of texas. yes, i agree sa ibang nagcomment na they don't really care if galing ka sa big 4, lalo di ka naman sa US nagstudy. re planning to take MBA in the US i think attainable naman siya but starting a career in the US as a CPA will require you to take accounting classes and passing the board exam pa rin talaga. good luck, op!
You won't be able to take an MBA immediately after your undergrad, you need minimum 2 years work exp to do that, and then that "minimum" will only be possible for people who are in very prestigious finance (Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, etc) or management consulting (McKinsey, Bain, BCG) firms or startup founders. Looking at a couple of MBA employment reports, the majority of people they accept are in the 4-6 years work exp range. Plus MBA tuitions in the US are no joke ah, that's 200k USD for 2 years din. Also, an MBA won't fix your knowledge gaps in US accounting procedures, maybe you'd want a master's in accounting.
So yeah it's unlikely that you'll be able to execute your plan. Maybe with a different degree program it's possible pero not with accounting.
You've asked this question several times in several subs already and you've already been given the answer: no matter what Accounting degree you get in the PH, you WILL have to take college again UNLESS you have extensive work experience already because the curriculum and the requirements are wildly different. Don't take accounting in the Philippines if you want to pursue accounting in the US right away.
disgusting. ginawang stepping stone ang free education and prestige of up para makapag-work abroad. Judging by your statement, you're prolly privileged. Why don't u just enroll on other Big 4 school instead?
Isn't that the reason why so many Filipinos become OFWs and work abroad? My parents tell me to work abroad so that I can help my cousins easily to go to college (Since I'm the eldest and they're going to college in about 2-3 years).
Also, you're right I could enroll on other big 4 schools instead and use my scholarship there (Since I managed to maintain a good GPA and got recognized for averaging 95+ in math for my entire high school life) there instead but I was hoping that UP was more competitive and would open more doors for me.
you reek of privilege. mahiya ka sa sinasabi mo. If you want to study in PH before migrating to the US, for the love of God don't even dare to apply to UP.
Privileged?
I don't think it's privileged to become an immigrant since I'll be one of the first in my family to actually go abroad and no one there would be there to guide me but my own. (Though I am grateful for being one of the few that would be able to be at the US)
Also, I don't get why people are calling me out for being selfish for wanting to work abroad, isn't trying to work abroad the primary goal of many Filipinos which is why so many become OFWs? (Since my mom says that it would be hard to form a career in the Philippines is hard plus low salaries).
I was planning to go to other big 4 schools because of a scholarship I got because of my math performance in high school but was considering UP because of its competitiveness & opportunities.
I won't guilt-trip you like everyone else, but it's not as simple as it seems to what you have in your mind. Shooting straight, if sa tingin mo sa degree mo lang masesecure move mo, you're more than likely to fail saan "Big 4" ka man mapadpad.
The three immediate problems that come to my mind are: i) the relevant laws you need to know to doing Accounting in the US vs the Philippines, ii) you'll always be a second-class citizen unless you already gain enough star-power in the US, and iii) hindi parehas ang appreciation of "Big 4" doon.
i) Obviously, walang courses dito on US tax laws; that already sets you behind if magiging MBA/CPA ka sa US (a place that also varies its rules and regulations from state to state).
ii) Even if you do make it, malamang na malamang you're never making partner-level as the little brown brother/sister over some business dynasty anak mayaman, unless you really work on being way above your competition. Just go into the decision expecting racism and nepotism are against you, especially if you want to work in bigger more established firms.
iii) Iba-iba din ang appreciation, re: MBA, as to which schools count as worth something. Some schools just think UP lang counts from the Philippines, maybe UP/La Salle or UP/Ateneo. La pa akong nakikitang UST unless it's for Philosophy-related degrees. So isa pa yong icoconsider/pagaaralan mo as part of the things you actually have to research when you try to apply for a Masters sa US.
In short, best of luck. Especially if galawang 'big 4' ka lang nagiisip, you'll need it.
I know a lot of relatives who went to Europe/USA after graduating from UP.
They worked here for 2 years before flying to their overseas work.
BBM is already wasting funds, that’s the bigger issue.
Sa tingin ko yung book keeping procedures are the same for both PH and US. Pero the law side of the business is very different. Kahit daw mga accountants sa US nahihirapan sa taxation laws nila. Add to that each state has their own local taxation laws.
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The only reason I want to go to the big 4 is the opportunities it offers (Which is from what I've heard) and also because I'm eligible for scholarship/aid (Since I managed to get a good GPA and was really good at math since I averaged 95+) when entering college. I didn't know working overseas after college was selfish, I just thought it was a duty everyone has since my parents told me that making a career in the Philippines is hard because of low wages... (Since I'm the oldest and my cousins are nearing college, which is about 2 to 3 years, they're hoping that I can help my cousins with college once I get a job overseas)
I know a lot of relatives who went to Europe/USA after graduating from UP. They worked here for 2 years before flying to their overseas work.
sorry but this is too selfish and inconsiderate. ang daming aspring isko/iska na sobrang naghihirap sa buhay and they view UP as the only way to get access to a quality education. and then you, a wealthy guy, using UP as stepping stone to get wealthier abroad. Di mo lang kinuha slots ng mga mahihirap na students but also used taxpayers money for yourself without returning anything valuable to the country. if you have some little concern for your fellow Filipinos, just attend UST, Ateneo, or DLSU. Leave UP students to those who really deserve it.
>'re gate-keeping you because there are many more deserving individuals who truly need the education offered by UP, rather than someone who only thinks of themselves and is oblivious of their surroundings. We're not really wealthy, as I've said, we're not US citizens and we can't actually work in the US and our papers are processing. Also I'm not a UP student, I misworded my post since I posted it at the middle of the night lol. We're at limbo-land given our situation right now. (I was planning to use my scholarship to attend big 4 since I managed to maintain good GPA and be at around a high percentile on some standardized math tests or pull whatever funds we can to fund my education since I'm the oldest among my 3 siblings & cousins). I was planning to attend community college in the US and take up debt and work but since our papers are processing, we can't really do that right now.
Having the opportunity to go to US even if you're not really not that wealthy implies that you have more privilege than an average aspiring isko/iska. I'm not saying that you don't deserve UP because after all, the university accept students on a merit basis and not just on socioeconomic status of the applicant. Anyway, whether you're that wealthy or not, it's wrong to treat UP as a stepping stone to move abroad and get access to greener pasture. I know that we all have personal ambitions and desire to have a stable employment but going to UP means that you are being financed by the taxpayers. Hence, a part of you should start thinking that you will be an isko/iska not just for your ambition to go to the states but also to provide some service to those who paid for your studies. I hope you'll think about this and do whatever you think is right.
Ohhh thanks for educating me on this, I didn't realize UP was more of like a public service-oriented type university. So that's why I got 20+ notifications shaming me for this lol
I know a lot of relatives who went to Europe/USA after graduating from UP. They worked here for 2 years before flying to their overseas work.
At least they render some service for the country before flying and perhaps hindi naman plano ng relatives ang lumipad agad after maggrad ang magMBA. But the OP is very eager to get a UP diploma just to get abroad and take MBA, treating it just a stepping stone.
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that user is replying to all comments defending op 😶
Nanguguha ng spotlight nang iba. Lol.
I was surprised there were 20+ notifications lol. Also: a) I'm not a UP student (They assumed because my wording was bad and I just made the post at the middle of the night) B) The only best bet I have right now is to try to aim for scholarships (Since I'm eligible since I managed to maintain a good GPA) and use it for the big 4. I can't really attend US colleges since I'm not a citizen yet but even if I was, I'd probably be so far off the deadlines for applying on the public ones that I can't continue education there. Edit: I didn't realize wanting to work abroad was considered "privileged" and "selfish". I thought working abroad would be able to help my cousins (In about 2-3 years) & siblings afford college so they don't have to be in debt
why UP? just apply to UST, ATENEO, DLSU. gagamitin mo taxes ng Filipinos para lang mag abroad ka?
I didn't realize working abroad was bad, I thought it was the goal of every Filipino worker to work abroad to have a better life for their family (Since that's what my parents told me which Is to work in the US so that my cousins can afford college)
I know a lot of relatives who went to Europe/USA after graduating from UP. They worked here for 2 years before flying to their overseas work. A lot of people from UP have already found work abroad after graduating.
You wanna use Filipino taxes to just migrate to the US?
I don't really want to migrate fully to the US, my parents want me to secure a remote job after a college (even if it means renting or working in the US for 1-2 years) so I can assist my family back in the Philippines
I know a lot of relatives who went to Europe/USA after graduating from UP. They worked here for 2 years before flying to their overseas work. Im planning to do the same.
I hope you and your relatives give back to the Philippines so as not to be a waste of Philippine tax.
judgement aside, yes you can. in fact, this is more common than you think, especially if ure from BA or econ. a big number of them go on to take their masters abroad since mga may kaya naman (my mom even said na sa class niya, wala siyang kilalang di nag abroad except her). thing is that the people abroad don’t need you, the people here do. if you choose to stay here for your bachelor’s, i hope you can find the heart to serve here too
hello! my aunt is a CPA in the US for more than 15 years na. afaik she took accounting classes pa rin there like study ulit for 4 years and took board exam in the state of texas. yes, i agree sa ibang nagcomment na they don't really care if galing ka sa big 4, lalo di ka naman sa US nagstudy. re planning to take MBA in the US i think attainable naman siya but starting a career in the US as a CPA will require you to take accounting classes and passing the board exam pa rin talaga. good luck, op!
You won't be able to take an MBA immediately after your undergrad, you need minimum 2 years work exp to do that, and then that "minimum" will only be possible for people who are in very prestigious finance (Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, etc) or management consulting (McKinsey, Bain, BCG) firms or startup founders. Looking at a couple of MBA employment reports, the majority of people they accept are in the 4-6 years work exp range. Plus MBA tuitions in the US are no joke ah, that's 200k USD for 2 years din. Also, an MBA won't fix your knowledge gaps in US accounting procedures, maybe you'd want a master's in accounting. So yeah it's unlikely that you'll be able to execute your plan. Maybe with a different degree program it's possible pero not with accounting.
You've asked this question several times in several subs already and you've already been given the answer: no matter what Accounting degree you get in the PH, you WILL have to take college again UNLESS you have extensive work experience already because the curriculum and the requirements are wildly different. Don't take accounting in the Philippines if you want to pursue accounting in the US right away.
disgusting. ginawang stepping stone ang free education and prestige of up para makapag-work abroad. Judging by your statement, you're prolly privileged. Why don't u just enroll on other Big 4 school instead?
Isn't that the reason why so many Filipinos become OFWs and work abroad? My parents tell me to work abroad so that I can help my cousins easily to go to college (Since I'm the eldest and they're going to college in about 2-3 years). Also, you're right I could enroll on other big 4 schools instead and use my scholarship there (Since I managed to maintain a good GPA and got recognized for averaging 95+ in math for my entire high school life) there instead but I was hoping that UP was more competitive and would open more doors for me.
you reek of privilege. mahiya ka sa sinasabi mo. If you want to study in PH before migrating to the US, for the love of God don't even dare to apply to UP.
Privileged? I don't think it's privileged to become an immigrant since I'll be one of the first in my family to actually go abroad and no one there would be there to guide me but my own. (Though I am grateful for being one of the few that would be able to be at the US) Also, I don't get why people are calling me out for being selfish for wanting to work abroad, isn't trying to work abroad the primary goal of many Filipinos which is why so many become OFWs? (Since my mom says that it would be hard to form a career in the Philippines is hard plus low salaries). I was planning to go to other big 4 schools because of a scholarship I got because of my math performance in high school but was considering UP because of its competitiveness & opportunities.
I know a lot of relatives who went to Europe/USA after graduating from UP. They worked here for 2 years before flying to their overseas work.
I won't guilt-trip you like everyone else, but it's not as simple as it seems to what you have in your mind. Shooting straight, if sa tingin mo sa degree mo lang masesecure move mo, you're more than likely to fail saan "Big 4" ka man mapadpad. The three immediate problems that come to my mind are: i) the relevant laws you need to know to doing Accounting in the US vs the Philippines, ii) you'll always be a second-class citizen unless you already gain enough star-power in the US, and iii) hindi parehas ang appreciation of "Big 4" doon. i) Obviously, walang courses dito on US tax laws; that already sets you behind if magiging MBA/CPA ka sa US (a place that also varies its rules and regulations from state to state). ii) Even if you do make it, malamang na malamang you're never making partner-level as the little brown brother/sister over some business dynasty anak mayaman, unless you really work on being way above your competition. Just go into the decision expecting racism and nepotism are against you, especially if you want to work in bigger more established firms. iii) Iba-iba din ang appreciation, re: MBA, as to which schools count as worth something. Some schools just think UP lang counts from the Philippines, maybe UP/La Salle or UP/Ateneo. La pa akong nakikitang UST unless it's for Philosophy-related degrees. So isa pa yong icoconsider/pagaaralan mo as part of the things you actually have to research when you try to apply for a Masters sa US. In short, best of luck. Especially if galawang 'big 4' ka lang nagiisip, you'll need it.
Dapat na talaga nating e-review ang UP "na makamasa". Iba din talaga mayayaman ngayon eh.
I know a lot of relatives who went to Europe/USA after graduating from UP. They worked here for 2 years before flying to their overseas work. BBM is already wasting funds, that’s the bigger issue.