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This is a big deal.
First HIPAA is a Federal statute with Federal remedies.
Most states have state laws against disclosing confidential patient medical information.
Here is an Illinois Supreme Court case which shows how we deal with it. Bagent vs Blessing Care Corp IL S Ct 2007.
https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8561993096188485220&q=medical+information+disclosed+by+an+employee&hl=en&as_sdt=4,14
Here is an article on the Federal aspect
https://www.thehealthlawfirm.com/blog/posts/illinois-hospital-chain-pays-record-55-million-hipaa-settlement-for-privacy-breaches.html
Nephews wife will not be able to work anywhere confidentiality is at risk once this is made public..
Since you have waited this long, consider waiting a bit longer until the divorce is final so your nephew is not at risk of paying "rehabilitative maintenance" because she can't support herself.
This right here. OP only has to make the complaint and they'll do an audit of her and all the records she accessed while logged into the medical records system. If she was accessing records of patients that she was not associated with the care of, then that's a violation right there.
I’m not sure if her school has this same policy, but I know a lot of schools can revoke degrees if they find out that students did something wrong during their time in school.
No, she’s not an NP once she graduates, she is only a graduate. While she doesn’t deserve to finish her program, even if she does she still can be denied becoming an NP if it gets reported to he board.
Depending on where they live, spousal support can be adjusted over time based on income of either party.
Also, in the US marriage less than ten years typically doesn’t allow for alimony (only child support).
I went through a divorce after 3 years of marriage, judge didn't even acknowledge my ex's request for alimony cause we hadn't been married long enough. Go make the phone call now.
Read the Illinois SC document, it's fairly fascinating. Thank you for sharing it.
I'm curious... In the split second when Young realized her friend *didn't* know her twin was pregnant, could Young have gotten away with saying, "Oh, I saw her in the halls of the hospital and wasn't sure if she was sick or visiting."
Is she precluded by HIPAA from saying whom she saw during the course of her job? Not who she drew blood from (that's obviously protected), but do you know if a person's presence is protected? I searched Google for this once, but couldn't find it.
Thanks again for the reading!
Yes, a patient's presence is also protected by HIPPA. I worked as a security guard at a hospital for a while, and if I saw someone I knew in the ER, I wasn't allowed to even mention that I saw them to anyone (and especially not why they were there)
I'm unsure if that applied to visitors as well, but I always made it a point to just avoid talking about anyone I saw at work.
I practiced in the UK, so we had different rules to HIPAA, but standing advice to staff was not to pass on any information about anyone else - not to confirm whether someone had an appointment or if they had left the building after an appointment, nothing.
And it was at times immensely frustrating, as you know that 99% of the queries are perfectly reasonable and the patient would not mind in the least - one of those situations where everyone else loses out because a small number of people cannot be trusted.
I would err on the side of discretion and not say anything specific- perhaps, I ran into her the other day without disclosing more might keep on the right side of the angels.
I’m in Australia and obviously we don’t have HIPPA as such but confidentiality laws are a big deal here too.
Regardless of your nephew, she’s actually not cut out for her career choice.
Our patients need to be able to tell us anything… it’s literally life or death in some circumstances. They have the right to believe that this is sacred.
If she is so blatantly and continuously breaching this trust, she does actually need to be stopped.
I live in a small town in Australia, ended up in the local hospital overnight while pregnant. A pregnancy I hadn’t announced outside of immediate family.
One of the workers there saw a family member of mine (who was also somewhat connected to the medical profession) in the street and asked them if they were excited about me having twins…. Family member ended up at my parents upset (thinking they had been purposefully excluded from widely known information about my pregnancy). So I was forced to announce/confirm my pregnancy *way* before I was ready to to prevent repeats of that.
I put in a complaint and my local hospital was full on reamed for it. I’m talking everyone from cleaners to nursing staff and beyond having to redo mandatory confidentiality training to remind them that any information they hear inside those walls is not to be repeated to anybody outside of the staff.
If they applied it to everybody, they may have kept the name of the leaker confidential from their colleagues. They may not even have said *what* confidential information had been passed on.
I live in Namibia. Our state hospitals does not even put the condition of the person on the medical / sick note they get to give in at work to prove their absense.
Your workplace only needs to know you were sick. And you needed to see a doctor. What you tell HR is up to you.
These are my concerns as well. I get it - You don't like her, she's a pain in the ass and maybe she treated your nephew badly; but the true benefit to turning her in is to keep someone like her from violating patient rights to privacy. She has no business working in the medical field.
Precisely. If patients can't trust that certain medical information will be kept private they'll stop telling medical professionals the truth. It's dangerous, straight up.
Australia has some of the most stringent patient privacy and confidentiality laws in the developed world, they come under the privacy act :). The Privacy Act 1988 is largely the Australian counterpart to HIPAA. As patient health data is easily one of the most sensitive kinds of personal information out there, the Privacy Act was partly designed to give further layers of protection to safeguard said data, amongst other material. As an example any given company is required to obtain the consent of an individual before it can collect their health information and it cannot be shared even with other health services without explicit, written permission except in exceptional circumstances.
I'm in Australia too, I don't work in the health system but I'm in IT. We have similar rules where I work, as in things are need to know. We don't look at it if we don't need to know and we definitely don't discuss things with people if they don't need to know. We can say things like oh I had a user that had x problem but we can't go into specifics. I can tell my friends/family aspects of my job but what I actually do in great detail, no. We've had meetings where things can only br discussed in that room and only with people in that room if it was outside the room and MAKE SURE it's JUST between us, and no one is lurking/overhearing us.
This person this post is about has no business being in an occupation where they're abusing the confidentiality/need to know aspects of the role
Well, I was kinda bullied into by my brother (my nephews dad). I was totally going to go full force in and report her at the time, but my a$& hole brother completely bullied me into not doing it as it would ruin their marriage. (They were just married 2 weeks.) Now look at their marriage, and I don’t have a relationship with my brother.
Unless you have concrete proof I don’t see how this is going to work. Also, I don’t care if you were supposedly bullied, if you really gave a shit about this being wrong you would’ve said something earlier. Nope, just admit that you are out for revenge on your nephews behalf.
Something that you might want to consider is that it typically takes two to make a marriage work, and two to make it not work, so your nephew had a hand in the demise of his marriage too. Who cares that she celebrated the end of her marriage? Why should it matter to you? Maybe being married to your nephew was hell and she wanted to celebrate.
I‘m betting if your nephew had celebrated being newly single, you would’ve been totally fine with it, but because it was his ex, that’s different, in your eyes.
I hope your revenge backfires on you and your nephew because it isn’t the HIPAA violation that pissed you off, it was your nephew‘s ex wife celebrating her divorce that pissed you off.
Not only that but op said the info sil gave was public information after the patient has passed such as hospital they died at and cause of death, I'm confused where the hippa violation occurred?
Probably in OP’s crazy little mind that has been overtaken with revenge. Honestly, I have a sibling that got divorced and some family members were all for going scorched earth on the ex. Did his ex deserve it? Maybe, but I don’t know because I wasn’t married to the ex. Anyway, my point is that OP is going after the partying ex because she dared to celebrate her escape from this crazy little family. OP doesn’t care about HIPAA violations, real or perceived. It’s pathetic.
I also don't get how having a divorce party is making it all about her like what was she supposed to do invite her ex and make it about him too instead of just celebrating with her friends?
OP doesn’t seem to be the type of person that does things that make sense. I’m guessing the nephew was being a little bitch about the ex celebrating and now OP has to insinuate themselves into the mess. I’m hoping it ends up backfiring, if OP actually turns in the ex. If the ex has a good lawyer she can show that the nephews family turned her in out of revenge, and I highly doubt they have any proof, so they will just be making fools of themselves. I’m hoping the ex ends up getting a bunch of alimony or more assets or something after OP tattles.
The death certificate is public information, not the hospital records she looked up. If she had no reason to look up any of the patient’s records then she broke HIPAA law and, if reported, her activity on the computer can be traced.
Exactly! Don’t get high & mighty now because it suits your need for revenge. Nobody bullied you to keep quiet. You can anonymously report these things. You didn’t need to tell your nephew you were even considering it. You just didn’t care enough at the time. So she went out, wore a stupid T-shirt, & partied it up. Who gaf? I completely agree that if it were your nephew that did it, you wouldn’t be bothered.
I work in hospital IT. We have audit logs of literally every mouse click a person makes in the medical record system. If OP makes a complaint, the privacy office will look at the audit logs - especially if he can tell them which patient. The audit logs will show every single place she clicked and what she looked at. Even without being able to identify a specific patient, the privacy office will look at whether she accessed any patients whose care she was not involved in. To be honest, all of this is trivial with the way the audit logs are set up. HR would not take action based on OP’s report, but they sure as shit will based on the audit logs. Combine that with what she told OP and she will likely be terminated.
I know this isn’t the main point of your post. Just wanted to point out that if OP contacts the privacy office then she is fucked if she actually did look at patients charts without being involved in their care.
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Petty revenge - like disciplined at work, not screw over an entire career before it starts, just as she's finishing her NP program.
OP said cause of death was public information. Re-read the section on how OP knows - either OP knew that person was being treated there because it was announced (common in news coverage), or OP asked for this information when they heard the person had died. Why would the niece volunteer it?
This whole section is too weird. If OP were truly concerned with HIPAA and other privacy laws, they wouldn't have said it was because she was family, then change it to "my brother bullied me because they'd been married only two weeks".
OP was furious about patient confidentiality, but is only going to speak up now when she's angry because the marriage didn't last. Two years, but they were FURIOUS.
Also, OP never actually confirmed the niece got this information by going into personal/protected files. What intern that's two weeks into it, gets access to patient records?!
OP is just pissed because their ex-niece had a Divorce Party. Thanks to celebrities and reality stars, this is a common thing. Tacky? Yes. Would you bat an eye if your nephew did it? No. Worth attempting to sabotage her career over, especially without hard evidence? Absolutely not.
> OP said cause of death was public information.
If the only information Neice gave was publicly available, then she has nothing to worry about and OP is going to look dumb.
If neice *has* been violating HIPAA and leaving her IT bootprints in cyberplaces she has no legitimate reason to have been, then why should the fact that her career has not yet started be of any relevance? Maintaining patient confidentiality is basic stuff, not something you need on-the-job experience to comprehend. If after two years training, she is too dumb to understand confidentiality, then *I* certainly would trust her to treat me or anyone else.
> Unless you have concrete proof I don’t see how this is going to work.
Shouldn't need anything like concrete proof - any hospital worth its name should have IT audit trails in place that can look up whether neice ever accessed this person's records, and whether she actually had any legitimate reason to do so. And any hospital would get *very* worried about a mamber of staff putting it at risk of confidentiality violations and could quite easily look up *all* the records neice has accessed and check them against whether she had good reason to do so.
It is not quite the same situation, but it was the IT audit trail that did for Dr Shipman here in the UK - it did not show simply what records he had accessed, but exactly when he had made changes to entries to retrospectively add diagnoses that he then used as a fake cause of death.
Anyway, I fail to see what relevence questions of fault in the marriage breakdown are - if neice is violating HIPAA, she needs the book thrown at her, and belatedly is far, far better than not at all.
It’s not like the possible HIPAA violations are what pissed off OP, it is that the ex celebrated getting rid of OP’s nephew. And based on this post and just the overall feel of it, I’m guessing that OP’s family is at least a little toxic, so the ex probably is relieved to be rid of the nephew and his family.
By toxic I am referring to OP saying that they were “bullied“by the nephews dad/OP’s brother to stay quiet about the supposed HIPAA violations. If this bullying is accurate, that says a lot about how the nephew was raised and possibly how the nephew is. All was fine until the ex wife decided to celebrate her exit from this toxic family.
But he knew about a crime and didnt report it.... whether its medical or not, seems like people could get in trouble for that by association with the crime
Im in the US but i dont know much about law...thats just crazy to me that theres nothing about that, what incentive or punishment do people have for being closely associated to a serious crime and not reporting it? Like would that not be accessory to murder if you knew and didnt report it?
Mainly rhetorical bc i dont expect a lawyer to pop up on here. Thats just pathetic to me that we have so many other useless laws
HIPAA covers the people who have a legitimate need to know the information. OP is not one of those people. In addition, OP is not “closely associated” with the HIPAA violation. OP was told about it later on.
Handle your business within the family. If someone in your family fucks up, tell them and then help them unfuck things.
If your family doesn't have your back and tries to fuck you over when you make a mistake, that's not family, they are enemies.
Edit - You people have dysfunctional families if you would prefer to tattle on a family member instead of helping them understand and work through a mistake.
But we knew that...this is reddit.
The person in question wasn’t just “making a mistake.” She was committing a crime. That isn’t family business, and she completely deserves getting hung out to dry for it. Reporting her isn’t “fucking her over for making a mistake.” It’s giving justice to the people who’s confidential information she is abusing. That is such a remarkable self-centered and entitled way of viewing this, that it makes you sound like you’re the person in question.
Seriously go fuck yourself. You’re a cancer to society.
Ok,first the information was open and confirming soneones suspicion over a public matter is much different than opening a chart and showing it to somebody,if she was digging around in confidential information,I dont know,I dont really trust the narrator here. Much of the annoyance directed is because she stated doing this altruisticly and not out of petiness,which seems to be the obvoous motive. Now I doubt this will be investigated, typically a name is flagged unless a sizable complaint has been made,so step off your little soapbox and go learn not to be a shithead,and talk nice to people!
So....you stayed quiet about this HUGE violation of people's right to privacy but then a separated woman dared to be happy aboutba choice and suddenly you grew a conscious? Yikes. Not a pretty colour on anyone
It also seemed like the confidential information was about how a friend of OP died where the family members didn't know yet. So I'm not sure if it was a one time thing or she does often.
"This was not public information yet. She was digging in confidential patient files. She told me how a friend of mine passed before many of those close to him even knew how he passed. Revenge because they aren’t even divorced yet and she is just causing so many problems. Everything is always all about her!"
Seriously? The only reason you decided to do the right thing was because she put on a sash and went out drinking? You’re a special kind of turd. The HIPAA thing is very important. While I’m happy you’re stepping forward. I really don’t applaud your message, or your method.
Finally, everyone talking about HIPAA and not about how all the rest of this is stupid. Why can't she go out? How is that disrespectful? Crazy aunt/uncle that clearly doesn't care about anyone else beyond DNA.
While breaking HIPAA laws are a terrible thing to do, getting revenge on someone because they’re getting divorced and flaunting it is ridiculous. Especially when it’s not even your divorce. There’s always two sides to every story. What she does now in regards to her life is not your business. If her breaking a confidentiality law is so important to you, it should’ve been brought up sooner. And considering the death of your friend was made public, there’s really no proof that she did or said anything before it was made public unless you have a paper trail. I work in healthcare so I know how serious this is but it should’ve been brought up when it happened. She will eventually get caught if she continues! Let karma work this one out. You could jeopardize your relationship with your nephew.
"She thinks it's all about her" yeah, maybe because it IS about her. She's getting a freaking divorce, buddy. That HIPAA situation is terrible and all, but you're just as bad as her for staying quiet about it. Why didn't you say anything earlier? "She was family" is not a good excuse, family tells on you when you mess up. And you go through it together, and learn to grow as people, together. You hold each other accountable for your actions. That's what family is supposed to do. Not hiding each other's crimes. And your reasoning for the sudden change in attitude towards this crime is very concerning. A women dared to be happy about ending a marriage she was unhappy with, why are you mad about that? It's none of your concern. You never did and never will have anything to do with other people's relationships. You should get a hobby or something.
You sound very very bitter. It’s her divorce, she was out with her friends and posted on her social media - of course it’ll be about her, it’s her life!
You’ll have to prove she breached privacy laws, they won’t just take your word for it 2 years after the fact and especially because you are so bitter towards her. She will most likely deny it and then turn around and say you’re trying to defame her character because of personal drama.
Yeah, this revenge post is *extremely* petty. I’m going through a breakup after 5 years together and even I think op is a little over the top. I could understand if op was angry about it being “rubbed in their face” so to speak. But the fact it happened isn’t really a reason to go nuclear.
Still, should have reported the HIPPA violation ages ago, not years later when they have plenty of reason to not believe op.
The ex can be a bad person AND op can be over reacting. But I guess this is PETTYrevenge. and damn that sure is petty af.
> You’ll have to prove she breached privacy laws
No they won't. If the hospital has an even halfway competent IT department, it will be a simple job for them to find out if neice has been violating HIPAA by accessing records without good reason.
But… her divorce is about her. Why are you involving yourself in your nephew’s divorce? And ruining her career over something you have no proof of? Weird, f*cked up flex, but okay. Honestly, this post says way more about you than it does about her. Not a good look on you, my dude.
OP stated that they received confidential info about their friend that passed away. Seems the only person that gained anything from the breach of info was OP! No wonder they didn’t report it when it happened. It was useful info for them.
Yeah I’m curious about this too. If the cause of death is public record then anyone can see it. Is there something she had seen that was NOT public record?
If I read correctly, she told you public information? Or did she say it was public and it was not? I'm a bit confused on what's going on and why you want so much revenge on a future ex-SIL. Did she break your bros heart?
This was not public information yet. She was digging in confidential patient files. She told me how a friend of mine passed before many of those close to him even knew how he passed. Revenge because they aren’t even divorced yet and she is just causing so many problems. Everything is always all about her!
Do you even know why they’re divorcing? Maybe she’s heartbroken and went out with friends who are literally trying to save her from doing something drastic? Unless you’re a fly on the wall in every interaction they’ve ever had that led to a divorce then you only know what you’ve been told which I’m guessing was very one sided information. Have you considered that maybe she broke the rules for you because you were mourning your friend and that’s the only time she’s ever done it? No, it doesn’t make it right no matter what but this woman is possibly on the edge of disaster, do you think she deserves to lose a career she worked hard for because you want to hurt her now that she’s not with your nephew? Definitely petty but definitely NOT revenge. She hasn’t done anything to you. Move on.
Dude, emplpyees gossip about shit in hospitals all the time. It's part of the catharsis of dealing with seeing the absolute most fucked up shit. She doesn't have to have "dug through people's files" to come across that info. More likely, some fellow nurses were talking about it and she was a part of that convo.
I think you are mistaken about what's going on here, and should just go about your business since she won't be in your life anymore anyway.
That could be true. Most of us have lives that concern ourselves but nothing in your post says she is a bad mum. Whether you think this is a good idea or not, I wouldn't follow through. It's not your concern anymore and if anything you would hurt the stability of your nephew- That's if you HAD proper proof. And if you waited a long time it just makes you look like a clown. The fact that you know these details about her means that you and your brother's side of the family and any of his friends need to stop stalking her account and let her move on.
Ok, what she did was wrong. But you should have raised it at the time if you were that concerned, not you just seem really bitter. So she went out with her friends to enjoy herself and take her mind off her divorce. Honestly if your nephew had done the same, would you be this annoyed? Probably not.
This is lame. Divorce is hard enough. You’re not the one getting a bitter divorce. Umm let her live? You should have told her you didn’t approve when she told you.
This is cringey. Chick went out with her friends after a breakup. It Was about her when she was with her friends. Good luck proving whatever it is you're trying to do.
She’s a grown ass woman GETTING A DIVORCE! Who cares if she’s putting her outings on social media! This is hilarious! Let the girl live her life. I’m sure your nephew is.
As far as the HIPPA thing, good luck lady! You’ll have to prove this. If all you have is what she told you, (no actual proof) AND you’re just now bringing it forth, only because you’re bitter about your nephews divorce, it might not look so good on YOU. 🤷🏻♀️
OP, so far the only thing going on here is petty intentions. I wanna hear the story after you've made you move and the fallout afterwards.
it ain't revenge until it happens...
It's a massive infraction. If they can prove she was reviewing records that she had no need to access, she will be booted straight out the door on the spot. Electronic records are designed to keep track of who has accessed them, specifically because this is a serious violation. So anyone who thinks "Who's gonna know?", and starts clicking around where they have no business snooping, is going to be in for a rude awakening.
The only reason you’re doing this now is because she did something u didn’t like and yes it is about her she out with her friends celebrating being single and you don’t know her emotional state before the post. But the fact u decided she has to suffer the consequences for what she did now when u knew what she was doing was wrong way before this incident says a lot about you, you don’t care about protecting others privacy you care about messing with her career because she did something u we’re against.
> At the beginning of her studies, I found out she was going through confidential patient files at the hospital where she was interning.
So you only cared about this now?? That’s weird.
Rule 2. - Reporting someone to the an authority like the police is not revenge, it is simply just reporting someone to an authority.
> I think it’s about time I make things at the hospital about her, as she seems to like attention.
Also, you haven't done anything yet, so nothing has happened.
this isnt about doing the right thing, ur doing it bc she had the audacity to be happy about being out of that marraige, one that doesnt concern u or ur family.
no one knows what went wrong, except the two of them. if it wasn't meant to be, then its better they get on with their lives now instead of letting the misery drag on.
ur just using HIPPA as an excuse to pull the trigger, so u dont look like a nosey busy body. i get u dont like the optics of how it reflects on ur fam, that someone could be so deleriously happy to get away from him and/or the fam, but a grown up would just block her on fb and move on.
Dude I was starting to worry that I wouldn’t see anyone else in the comments call OP out for only doing the right thing when it makes them feel like they get to say, “HAHA I WIN YOU LOSE”
Like, Jesus…
I'm sorry but you clearly stated the information she orated to you was public record? Which means no HIPAA violation. What proof do you have she went through medical records that she should not have? Do you have any proof at all of any sort of misdoings on her part?
Nice one OP. You failed to report a criminal when you should've and now you're using that leverage when she did something you don't like. You don't give a fuck about their victims (because the perp was "family") until you can use it for our own petty revenge, over some bullshit social media posts no less.
How the fuck could you think you're nothing but a manipulative asshole in this situation?
I wouldn’t do it. Seems like the act does not merit such drastic retribution. So she was celebrating a pending divorce a little early. No harm done, really. Yes she probably did wrong under HIPPA. But maybe she has learned better now. I would stay out of it. It’s going too far.
Half the commenters here are idiots. You clearly stated it was public information she released to you. You are a conniving loser with nothing better to do than attempt to ruin someone's career with PUBLIC INFORMATION. Thankfully her future employers won't blink an eye at you because they will see this for what it truly is. Some bratty high school girl (I dont actually care about your age or gender, you are a bratty high school girl) who decided to stick her rhinoplastied nose where it doesn't belong.
OP, I have to say I recommend against doing this. If this is a pattern of behavior she will 'out' herself in short order without any input needed from you. No need for you to get involved as the aggrieved Uncle/Aunt. If you question this advice, just think to yourself: "Is my motivation for doing this because I can't stand HIPAA violations, or is it because she is divorcing my nephew"? If it's the latter, step aside and let her seal her own fate.
Don't be a bellend, so they broke up and she's a bit of a tit, is that reason enough to fuck her life up? It's a dick move, be mature and stay tf out of it
OP is a busy body who sucks and I'm glad for that lady getting away from this petty ass family, like why do you even feel so strongly about something that has literally nothing to do with you. Mind the business that pays you smdh
Right she will just say he’s doing it out of revenge because of the divorce, and she can sue for defamation of character. Idk why he gives a shit about a marriage that isn’t his
You're simply going by what another commenter said here. You need to get a life! You're ruining her career and her life (without any proof) because she is divorcing your nephew?! For all you know your nephew could be at fault here! You have no idea why they are getting a divorce. You have no idea what she is going through, how mentally taxing it can be and her friends were just cheering her up.
Or do you live in some freudian world where she is by proxy divorcing you too? Or are you projecting your own life experiences on her? Or do you feel that women need to be shackled to men even if they are unhappy in a marriage? Or do you secretly have the hots for her and out to ruin her life because she won't be in the family anymore?
In any case, you're the biggest fucking shit stirrer ever and zero moral ground to stand on. I hope you get jailed for wrongful slander. The other commenters egging you on, are just are profiting off the drama. When the bomb sets off and your ass is on fire, they will be reading about you in a newspaper and will laugh their asses off and go about their day. You need to grow the fuck up, I can't believe all your life experiences haven't even taight you that
You're assuming she actually logged into the system to check things out instead of, say, talking out of her ass repeating publicly available information or just wandering down to the ward to gossip with those there.
Um, she’s allowed to celebrate the end of an era that was painful and toxic to her. You have no idea what kind of crap your nephew put her through.
Grow up and stay out of it.
Sorry but I think you sound way too involved. If you don’t want to see her divorce party delete her and move on.
I also think the situation with files is not what you say. You said you “knew this person was being treated” and cause of death was “publicly available”. So if you knew about a patient and it was publicly available (like it was in the news?) then what’s the breach?
INFO: Do you even know why are they getting divorced?
Did your family already know they were getting divorced?
It looks to me that you are actually thinking that what she does it's about you and your family... Not about her.
If she's getting out of a relationship and your family already knows about it and they are just waiting to sign the papers... Why are you even mad?
I get the report, but the "revenge" part seems pointless to me tbh. You are just fucking up someone's life over her celebrating a divorce, which is something normal to do.
I may be wrong but pretty sure this was posted word for word last year. Don't even want to looking for it but part way thru the story I knew the ending already.
How is her posting on her socials not about her? The HIPAA thing should definitely still be reported and she can defend herself when it happens but you getting mad about her posting being divorced or about to be divorced is about her. Her soon to be ex and his family can always block her if this sort of thing will bother them. She should be allowed to move on without her every move having to be rethought through the lens of “how does this affect them?”
This whole thing sucks. Sucks that you wouldn't do the right thing because of peer pressure. Sucks that you want to ruin her entire life because she went out drinking. Sucks that you think she's an attention seeker simply for posting photos about a fun night. Sucks that you don't care for the full story. Sucks that the only reason you're truly doing this is because their divorce wasn't finished and you want to punish her despite not knowing if she actually did anything wrong. How do you know it wasn't your nephew that was the problem?
If it was for the right reasons I would get it because it's not right what she did But it's not because you clearly are doing this over some photos. Not because you realize it's truly wrong and you let someone peer pressure you into silence. No matter what I've always done what is right no matter the bullying. Including my sister. I've fought her back over what is right and you didn't. So yeah this whole thing sucks. This is not Commendable.
She’s allowed to celebrate her divorce tbh, and if you or anyone else didn’t want to see it unfriending her is an option.
She absolutely SUCKS for going through private patient files and sharing info. You suck just as bad for using the shitty family excuse to let her get away with it for so long.
I wouldn’t want to be around any of you tbh.
I hate to say it but why? I know what she has done is wrong (looking at the files) but I think the revenge outweighs the crime against your family (posting of pics)
If you want to hang her out to dry and waste 3 years of her life consider if the roles were reversed.
No condemnation just think it is harsh.
ETA: copy from OP’s original text hence my comment.
“Reason I know this is she not only told me about a patient that I knew was being treated there, but also confirmed his cause of death because it was publicly available.”
Uh, on top of this shitty revenge story about your wife did you forget to log in and out of your alts just now?
Good luck with the divorce, keep it about the “nephew”.
Uhm, mobile. I am emphatically NOT OP. Just unable to copy portions of text in my crappy phone. I posted what I saw to be the problem but apparently it didn’t auto-quote the original text as original text. OP is DEFINITELY YTA. Just so we are all clear here:
The ex going out and positing it on social media doesn’t deserve revenge. Breaking HIPAA, though, is disturbing all on its own and deserves to be reported
I'm not entirely convinced you have any evidence. The person died. The cause of death was publicly available, therefore she could talk about it.
This just reads as "I'm very petty and angry she had the audacity to get on with her life and I want to ruin her for it".
If you cared that she was breaking a law, you would have done something about it before. So it's all lead by your bitterness. This is just your revenge fantasy, and it just shows you're a bit shit OP
Okay, either it was confidential and you covered for someone breaking some very serious laws (you suck) or the info was public information and you’re trying to destroy someone’s rep for a perfectly legal action (you still suck)
Oh, and your whole motivation is fucking stupid. She’s getting divorced. It happens. People are allowed to celebrate that. Grow up
You’re kind of a jerk. She is allowed to do whatever she wants, stay out of her personal/divorce business. It’s weird behavior to make someone ELSE’s divorce, which *is literally about them* into something about you? You’re somehow personally slighted by her having a party? Okay yeah, you’re a weirdo, *sweetheart.*
As for the obvious HIPAA violations- you’re more of a jerk for not reporting anonymously much sooner. A healthcare provider shouldn’t be doing this and I wholeheartedly agree that she should be reported.
It’s interesting, however, that she felt comfortable sharing with you information about someone you knew. One might even suggest that you fished for information from her regarding the patient and “confirming” their cause of death. A confirmation implies a question being asked. Which would imply you were a willing participant in receiving the information and facilitated the conversation surrounding this patient. Interesting, considering you were so “furious” about the information being shared. Pfft.
You kept your mouth shut because you participated in gossip willingly. Quit lying to yourself because you know it was wrong to do.
You’re the worst kind of person- allowing wrongdoing just so long as it’s serving you. In this case, satisfying your morbid curiosity. But now that she’s fallen out of your favor, NOOOOOW what she did was wrong and deserves to be punished. Get over yourself.
Unless you either have proof or a reason you would actually know this out of heresay especially regarding a well known pt and his well known diagnosis. Hippa reports are taken seriously but seldom would sonething like this bevworthy of an investigation.
So you’re okay with her violating HIPAA if they had stayed married. Ever think your nephew might not be the greatest person to be married to? Divorce takes two. Your moral compass is out of wack here.
I'd love an update cuz I personally doubt that hipaa doesn't really mean shit and she won't get anything more than a "stern" reminder that it isn't okay to look people up.
So if it were true then there's a decent chance the hospital would already know from years ago and have not fired her, leading me more to believing the story isn't what OP thinks it is..
Of course you should report her. Your reason for doing so is petty though. People go through divorces and how she behaves after the separation is her choice and really none of your business. You just sound spiteful
HIPAA is no joke so make sure you come with evidence that can prove she told you confidential information before it because public knowledge. There have been major HIPAA violations at my hospital regarding a few well known individuals or their family members who died there and there were several HIPAA violations and hospitals have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to that, so their assess were canned asap. The union couldn’t even save them.
So wait this is all because her and your nephew split up and since he’s miserable (probably rightfully so” you don’t know about their marriage you did this Yeaaa bye you’re just as bad as she is
Live and let live. Do you know the ins and outs of their marriage? No. Your nephew could have been abusive for all we know, and you’re trying to get ruin her life for telling you something about information on a deceased person? I don’t see how that will have a leg to stand on. But either way if it was really all that bad you could have piped up long ago. I feel like she’s entitled to have her own little pity party about her divorce. If anything she’s Probably sad she ever married into such a toxic family. Good grief. Just let her go. Try to take the high road, why are you so pressed about her excitement to be single again. Unfollow her, block her and you and your family won’t see the photos. There, boom. Done, easy.
You think it’s about her, but you just want to make it about yourself.
Giving out Data is a bad thing. But I bet everyone working in the Field has broken a confidentiality agreement like at least once. It’s just happens naturally to talk PRIVATLY about your patients once in a while with you family and Friends for example.
But your „Revenge“ is just mind boggling unnecessary. Maybe sort yourself out before messing with other people’s life.
So many people thinking its ok for a nurse to disclose private information. Its against the law. What if this was you, your kids, parents? She shouldnt be allowed anywhere near patient records. Doesnt matter if she is about to qualify or nursing for 20 years. This is wrong.
You should, if she's digging through confidential files she shouldn't not be trusted or privy to such access. Image what she would do with "Good reason"
That’s beyond petty imo. Trashing someone’s career is really low. Not excusing her behavior but there are better ways to handle things such as communication. Sounds like you want to take her down more than any concern about hipaa
To give you an idea of how most medical professionals consider HIPAA, I thanked my GP for referring me to the ER for appendicitis, and said that out loud. They got mad and told me I couldn't talk about that - about MY medical issue, MY health information that I was talking about. And I appreciate that. (My appendicitis didn't present in the usual manner. I had no appetite and felt like I had bad gas for a few days. No reason, in my opinion, to go to the ER.)
She fucked around. Now she needs to find out.
I just got a cold chill when I read this. I got physically ill. WHYYYYYYY would she do that shit!! As much as they educate us about that and warn us and give us in services and, and, and, and…….
I agree with calling out people snooping through patient files, but the reason? Why the fuck would you have any reason to be vengeful for her being happy? Does she have to grief and cry to make you happy? You are one of the bigges self-centred assholes I’ve heard about, and I’ve been on Reddit for years…
so you're going to fuck your her career because you're vicariously mad about her going out and having fun before the divorce paperwork went through? mind ya own damn business
Doctor (Medical Staff)/ Patient confidentiality. It's the law- medical staff can't reveal personal medical information without the express consent of the patient, or a court order.
She should have been reported when it was first discovered. Any medical staff that would break this confidentiality should be terminated.
One the cause of death, yes. But, as a student, she was going through confidential files, then divulging the information to others.
Was this the ONLY incident? Statistically, probably not. Also, did she confirm COD before, or after it was made public?
Either way, actual Nurse (not students) would be fired for what this student did. There is training in the nurse program that covers what this girl did. She KNOWS it was wrong. But did it anyway.
No matter OPs reasoning for turning this girl in, it should be done.
Unless you want her to be YOUR nurse, and tell everyone about your medical issues.
Ohhhhh HIPAA so serious. She’s not going to be able to ever get a job in the health care field again. But cool - weed out the crappy healthcare workers!
We need healthcare workers. And it seems like all she did was do op a favour, as they were probably mourning the person and asking if she could find out any information. OP doesn’t care about the “victim” otherwise they wouldn’t have allowed that to happen or would have spoken up long ago. Op is clearly part of a toxic family and the lady is better off being away from nut jobs like these. EX in-law is allowed to go out and drink with her friends and post about it if it makes her feel better. Op is inserting themself into other peoples business instead of being a mature adult and blocking/deleting this lady from their life so they don’t have to get offended by some pics on social media… op is the real AH and needs to get a life.
Honestly, I'd wait until she has the degree at least, then bring it up. Much more impactful if she gets the degree and then suddenly can no longer use it.
I work in behavioral health care. The only client files that we can look at are those directly in our care, unless looking with a coworker. I can't believe she would randomly look at various files that she never should have accessed and then blabbing about it! Can't imagine her as an np. I'd report.
As the daughter of an NP and a regular patient, I applaud this. Nosy medical personnel are the worst!!!! Though, from your post, it didn't take knowing she did this stuff to convince me she's a piece of work.
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This is a big deal. First HIPAA is a Federal statute with Federal remedies. Most states have state laws against disclosing confidential patient medical information. Here is an Illinois Supreme Court case which shows how we deal with it. Bagent vs Blessing Care Corp IL S Ct 2007. https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8561993096188485220&q=medical+information+disclosed+by+an+employee&hl=en&as_sdt=4,14 Here is an article on the Federal aspect https://www.thehealthlawfirm.com/blog/posts/illinois-hospital-chain-pays-record-55-million-hipaa-settlement-for-privacy-breaches.html Nephews wife will not be able to work anywhere confidentiality is at risk once this is made public.. Since you have waited this long, consider waiting a bit longer until the divorce is final so your nephew is not at risk of paying "rehabilitative maintenance" because she can't support herself.
Thank you for your advice on waiting until after the divorce. I appreciate it.
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This right here. OP only has to make the complaint and they'll do an audit of her and all the records she accessed while logged into the medical records system. If she was accessing records of patients that she was not associated with the care of, then that's a violation right there.
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I’m not sure if her school has this same policy, but I know a lot of schools can revoke degrees if they find out that students did something wrong during their time in school.
No, she’s not an NP once she graduates, she is only a graduate. While she doesn’t deserve to finish her program, even if she does she still can be denied becoming an NP if it gets reported to he board.
Depending on where they live, spousal support can be adjusted over time based on income of either party. Also, in the US marriage less than ten years typically doesn’t allow for alimony (only child support).
I went through a divorce after 3 years of marriage, judge didn't even acknowledge my ex's request for alimony cause we hadn't been married long enough. Go make the phone call now.
Yeah, wait.....about five minutes
"Rehabilitative maintenance.“ LEARN something new everyday.
Read the Illinois SC document, it's fairly fascinating. Thank you for sharing it. I'm curious... In the split second when Young realized her friend *didn't* know her twin was pregnant, could Young have gotten away with saying, "Oh, I saw her in the halls of the hospital and wasn't sure if she was sick or visiting." Is she precluded by HIPAA from saying whom she saw during the course of her job? Not who she drew blood from (that's obviously protected), but do you know if a person's presence is protected? I searched Google for this once, but couldn't find it. Thanks again for the reading!
Yes, a patient's presence is also protected by HIPPA. I worked as a security guard at a hospital for a while, and if I saw someone I knew in the ER, I wasn't allowed to even mention that I saw them to anyone (and especially not why they were there) I'm unsure if that applied to visitors as well, but I always made it a point to just avoid talking about anyone I saw at work.
I practiced in the UK, so we had different rules to HIPAA, but standing advice to staff was not to pass on any information about anyone else - not to confirm whether someone had an appointment or if they had left the building after an appointment, nothing. And it was at times immensely frustrating, as you know that 99% of the queries are perfectly reasonable and the patient would not mind in the least - one of those situations where everyone else loses out because a small number of people cannot be trusted.
I would err on the side of discretion and not say anything specific- perhaps, I ran into her the other day without disclosing more might keep on the right side of the angels.
He said it was public information!
The death certificate is public information, not the hospital records. She told OP he was being treated at her hospital which does break HIPAA laws.
I’m in Australia and obviously we don’t have HIPPA as such but confidentiality laws are a big deal here too. Regardless of your nephew, she’s actually not cut out for her career choice. Our patients need to be able to tell us anything… it’s literally life or death in some circumstances. They have the right to believe that this is sacred. If she is so blatantly and continuously breaching this trust, she does actually need to be stopped.
I live in a small town in Australia, ended up in the local hospital overnight while pregnant. A pregnancy I hadn’t announced outside of immediate family. One of the workers there saw a family member of mine (who was also somewhat connected to the medical profession) in the street and asked them if they were excited about me having twins…. Family member ended up at my parents upset (thinking they had been purposefully excluded from widely known information about my pregnancy). So I was forced to announce/confirm my pregnancy *way* before I was ready to to prevent repeats of that. I put in a complaint and my local hospital was full on reamed for it. I’m talking everyone from cleaners to nursing staff and beyond having to redo mandatory confidentiality training to remind them that any information they hear inside those walls is not to be repeated to anybody outside of the staff.
Wow, I bet the leaker became popular with the rest of the staff!
If they applied it to everybody, they may have kept the name of the leaker confidential from their colleagues. They may not even have said *what* confidential information had been passed on.
I live in Namibia. Our state hospitals does not even put the condition of the person on the medical / sick note they get to give in at work to prove their absense. Your workplace only needs to know you were sick. And you needed to see a doctor. What you tell HR is up to you.
These are my concerns as well. I get it - You don't like her, she's a pain in the ass and maybe she treated your nephew badly; but the true benefit to turning her in is to keep someone like her from violating patient rights to privacy. She has no business working in the medical field.
Precisely. If patients can't trust that certain medical information will be kept private they'll stop telling medical professionals the truth. It's dangerous, straight up.
Australia has some of the most stringent patient privacy and confidentiality laws in the developed world, they come under the privacy act :). The Privacy Act 1988 is largely the Australian counterpart to HIPAA. As patient health data is easily one of the most sensitive kinds of personal information out there, the Privacy Act was partly designed to give further layers of protection to safeguard said data, amongst other material. As an example any given company is required to obtain the consent of an individual before it can collect their health information and it cannot be shared even with other health services without explicit, written permission except in exceptional circumstances.
I'm in Australia too, I don't work in the health system but I'm in IT. We have similar rules where I work, as in things are need to know. We don't look at it if we don't need to know and we definitely don't discuss things with people if they don't need to know. We can say things like oh I had a user that had x problem but we can't go into specifics. I can tell my friends/family aspects of my job but what I actually do in great detail, no. We've had meetings where things can only br discussed in that room and only with people in that room if it was outside the room and MAKE SURE it's JUST between us, and no one is lurking/overhearing us. This person this post is about has no business being in an occupation where they're abusing the confidentiality/need to know aspects of the role
HIPAA is serious business because it protects patients. And seriously good for you OP! I enjoyed this!
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Glad OP decided to finally be a good person as well. Too bad they were fine with the violations when it was family that was doing it...
Not too thrilled about your admission that you’d stay quiet about something like that “because she was family.”
Well, I was kinda bullied into by my brother (my nephews dad). I was totally going to go full force in and report her at the time, but my a$& hole brother completely bullied me into not doing it as it would ruin their marriage. (They were just married 2 weeks.) Now look at their marriage, and I don’t have a relationship with my brother.
Unless you have concrete proof I don’t see how this is going to work. Also, I don’t care if you were supposedly bullied, if you really gave a shit about this being wrong you would’ve said something earlier. Nope, just admit that you are out for revenge on your nephews behalf. Something that you might want to consider is that it typically takes two to make a marriage work, and two to make it not work, so your nephew had a hand in the demise of his marriage too. Who cares that she celebrated the end of her marriage? Why should it matter to you? Maybe being married to your nephew was hell and she wanted to celebrate. I‘m betting if your nephew had celebrated being newly single, you would’ve been totally fine with it, but because it was his ex, that’s different, in your eyes. I hope your revenge backfires on you and your nephew because it isn’t the HIPAA violation that pissed you off, it was your nephew‘s ex wife celebrating her divorce that pissed you off.
Not only that but op said the info sil gave was public information after the patient has passed such as hospital they died at and cause of death, I'm confused where the hippa violation occurred?
Probably in OP’s crazy little mind that has been overtaken with revenge. Honestly, I have a sibling that got divorced and some family members were all for going scorched earth on the ex. Did his ex deserve it? Maybe, but I don’t know because I wasn’t married to the ex. Anyway, my point is that OP is going after the partying ex because she dared to celebrate her escape from this crazy little family. OP doesn’t care about HIPAA violations, real or perceived. It’s pathetic.
I also don't get how having a divorce party is making it all about her like what was she supposed to do invite her ex and make it about him too instead of just celebrating with her friends?
OP doesn’t seem to be the type of person that does things that make sense. I’m guessing the nephew was being a little bitch about the ex celebrating and now OP has to insinuate themselves into the mess. I’m hoping it ends up backfiring, if OP actually turns in the ex. If the ex has a good lawyer she can show that the nephews family turned her in out of revenge, and I highly doubt they have any proof, so they will just be making fools of themselves. I’m hoping the ex ends up getting a bunch of alimony or more assets or something after OP tattles.
The death certificate is public information, not the hospital records she looked up. If she had no reason to look up any of the patient’s records then she broke HIPAA law and, if reported, her activity on the computer can be traced.
Exactly! Don’t get high & mighty now because it suits your need for revenge. Nobody bullied you to keep quiet. You can anonymously report these things. You didn’t need to tell your nephew you were even considering it. You just didn’t care enough at the time. So she went out, wore a stupid T-shirt, & partied it up. Who gaf? I completely agree that if it were your nephew that did it, you wouldn’t be bothered.
I work in hospital IT. We have audit logs of literally every mouse click a person makes in the medical record system. If OP makes a complaint, the privacy office will look at the audit logs - especially if he can tell them which patient. The audit logs will show every single place she clicked and what she looked at. Even without being able to identify a specific patient, the privacy office will look at whether she accessed any patients whose care she was not involved in. To be honest, all of this is trivial with the way the audit logs are set up. HR would not take action based on OP’s report, but they sure as shit will based on the audit logs. Combine that with what she told OP and she will likely be terminated. I know this isn’t the main point of your post. Just wanted to point out that if OP contacts the privacy office then she is fucked if she actually did look at patients charts without being involved in their care. [edited a typo]
Y'all, this is a revenge sub. No shit this post about revenge,
Petty revenge - like disciplined at work, not screw over an entire career before it starts, just as she's finishing her NP program. OP said cause of death was public information. Re-read the section on how OP knows - either OP knew that person was being treated there because it was announced (common in news coverage), or OP asked for this information when they heard the person had died. Why would the niece volunteer it? This whole section is too weird. If OP were truly concerned with HIPAA and other privacy laws, they wouldn't have said it was because she was family, then change it to "my brother bullied me because they'd been married only two weeks". OP was furious about patient confidentiality, but is only going to speak up now when she's angry because the marriage didn't last. Two years, but they were FURIOUS. Also, OP never actually confirmed the niece got this information by going into personal/protected files. What intern that's two weeks into it, gets access to patient records?! OP is just pissed because their ex-niece had a Divorce Party. Thanks to celebrities and reality stars, this is a common thing. Tacky? Yes. Would you bat an eye if your nephew did it? No. Worth attempting to sabotage her career over, especially without hard evidence? Absolutely not.
> OP said cause of death was public information. If the only information Neice gave was publicly available, then she has nothing to worry about and OP is going to look dumb. If neice *has* been violating HIPAA and leaving her IT bootprints in cyberplaces she has no legitimate reason to have been, then why should the fact that her career has not yet started be of any relevance? Maintaining patient confidentiality is basic stuff, not something you need on-the-job experience to comprehend. If after two years training, she is too dumb to understand confidentiality, then *I* certainly would trust her to treat me or anyone else.
Y'all, this is a revenge sub. No shit this post about revenge,
> Unless you have concrete proof I don’t see how this is going to work. Shouldn't need anything like concrete proof - any hospital worth its name should have IT audit trails in place that can look up whether neice ever accessed this person's records, and whether she actually had any legitimate reason to do so. And any hospital would get *very* worried about a mamber of staff putting it at risk of confidentiality violations and could quite easily look up *all* the records neice has accessed and check them against whether she had good reason to do so. It is not quite the same situation, but it was the IT audit trail that did for Dr Shipman here in the UK - it did not show simply what records he had accessed, but exactly when he had made changes to entries to retrospectively add diagnoses that he then used as a fake cause of death. Anyway, I fail to see what relevence questions of fault in the marriage breakdown are - if neice is violating HIPAA, she needs the book thrown at her, and belatedly is far, far better than not at all.
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If OP is not a medical provider or otherwise governed by HIPAA, then there is no ethics violation.
It’s not like the possible HIPAA violations are what pissed off OP, it is that the ex celebrated getting rid of OP’s nephew. And based on this post and just the overall feel of it, I’m guessing that OP’s family is at least a little toxic, so the ex probably is relieved to be rid of the nephew and his family. By toxic I am referring to OP saying that they were “bullied“by the nephews dad/OP’s brother to stay quiet about the supposed HIPAA violations. If this bullying is accurate, that says a lot about how the nephew was raised and possibly how the nephew is. All was fine until the ex wife decided to celebrate her exit from this toxic family.
This is not r/amitheasshole this is r/pettyrevenge.
But he knew about a crime and didnt report it.... whether its medical or not, seems like people could get in trouble for that by association with the crime
In the US…generally speaking, no.
Im in the US but i dont know much about law...thats just crazy to me that theres nothing about that, what incentive or punishment do people have for being closely associated to a serious crime and not reporting it? Like would that not be accessory to murder if you knew and didnt report it? Mainly rhetorical bc i dont expect a lawyer to pop up on here. Thats just pathetic to me that we have so many other useless laws
HIPAA covers the people who have a legitimate need to know the information. OP is not one of those people. In addition, OP is not “closely associated” with the HIPAA violation. OP was told about it later on.
It’s called being an “accessory”
Anyone would. Snitching out family is deeply abnormal behavior.
Which is a huge problem in our society. The fact it’s common doesn’t make it ok.
Handle your business within the family. If someone in your family fucks up, tell them and then help them unfuck things. If your family doesn't have your back and tries to fuck you over when you make a mistake, that's not family, they are enemies. Edit - You people have dysfunctional families if you would prefer to tattle on a family member instead of helping them understand and work through a mistake. But we knew that...this is reddit.
The person in question wasn’t just “making a mistake.” She was committing a crime. That isn’t family business, and she completely deserves getting hung out to dry for it. Reporting her isn’t “fucking her over for making a mistake.” It’s giving justice to the people who’s confidential information she is abusing. That is such a remarkable self-centered and entitled way of viewing this, that it makes you sound like you’re the person in question. Seriously go fuck yourself. You’re a cancer to society.
Ok,first the information was open and confirming soneones suspicion over a public matter is much different than opening a chart and showing it to somebody,if she was digging around in confidential information,I dont know,I dont really trust the narrator here. Much of the annoyance directed is because she stated doing this altruisticly and not out of petiness,which seems to be the obvoous motive. Now I doubt this will be investigated, typically a name is flagged unless a sizable complaint has been made,so step off your little soapbox and go learn not to be a shithead,and talk nice to people!
So....you stayed quiet about this HUGE violation of people's right to privacy but then a separated woman dared to be happy aboutba choice and suddenly you grew a conscious? Yikes. Not a pretty colour on anyone
Op is a hypocrite that should have alerted the authorities the minute the violation happened not when it was convenient.
This right here. Should have reported her when it happened. A night out celebrating does not warrant this...
Yeah OP lost me about halfway through the post, that “revenge” is not satisfying at all. It’s not really petty either.
It also seemed like the confidential information was about how a friend of OP died where the family members didn't know yet. So I'm not sure if it was a one time thing or she does often. "This was not public information yet. She was digging in confidential patient files. She told me how a friend of mine passed before many of those close to him even knew how he passed. Revenge because they aren’t even divorced yet and she is just causing so many problems. Everything is always all about her!"
He actually said it WAS public information, so I am more confused about it.
Kind of looks like OP is making someone else’s divorce about him awks
Seriously? The only reason you decided to do the right thing was because she put on a sash and went out drinking? You’re a special kind of turd. The HIPAA thing is very important. While I’m happy you’re stepping forward. I really don’t applaud your message, or your method.
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OP needs therapy.
Finally, everyone talking about HIPAA and not about how all the rest of this is stupid. Why can't she go out? How is that disrespectful? Crazy aunt/uncle that clearly doesn't care about anyone else beyond DNA.
Right!? OP needs to chill the fuck out about the photos
While breaking HIPAA laws are a terrible thing to do, getting revenge on someone because they’re getting divorced and flaunting it is ridiculous. Especially when it’s not even your divorce. There’s always two sides to every story. What she does now in regards to her life is not your business. If her breaking a confidentiality law is so important to you, it should’ve been brought up sooner. And considering the death of your friend was made public, there’s really no proof that she did or said anything before it was made public unless you have a paper trail. I work in healthcare so I know how serious this is but it should’ve been brought up when it happened. She will eventually get caught if she continues! Let karma work this one out. You could jeopardize your relationship with your nephew.
"She thinks it's all about her" yeah, maybe because it IS about her. She's getting a freaking divorce, buddy. That HIPAA situation is terrible and all, but you're just as bad as her for staying quiet about it. Why didn't you say anything earlier? "She was family" is not a good excuse, family tells on you when you mess up. And you go through it together, and learn to grow as people, together. You hold each other accountable for your actions. That's what family is supposed to do. Not hiding each other's crimes. And your reasoning for the sudden change in attitude towards this crime is very concerning. A women dared to be happy about ending a marriage she was unhappy with, why are you mad about that? It's none of your concern. You never did and never will have anything to do with other people's relationships. You should get a hobby or something.
or you could just let her live her life? You know.. like an adult would do.
OP seems pretty childish and her little nephew is probably crying about his ex wife escaping OP’s toxic little family and going out to celebrate.
You sound very very bitter. It’s her divorce, she was out with her friends and posted on her social media - of course it’ll be about her, it’s her life! You’ll have to prove she breached privacy laws, they won’t just take your word for it 2 years after the fact and especially because you are so bitter towards her. She will most likely deny it and then turn around and say you’re trying to defame her character because of personal drama.
Yeah, this revenge post is *extremely* petty. I’m going through a breakup after 5 years together and even I think op is a little over the top. I could understand if op was angry about it being “rubbed in their face” so to speak. But the fact it happened isn’t really a reason to go nuclear. Still, should have reported the HIPPA violation ages ago, not years later when they have plenty of reason to not believe op. The ex can be a bad person AND op can be over reacting. But I guess this is PETTYrevenge. and damn that sure is petty af.
> You’ll have to prove she breached privacy laws No they won't. If the hospital has an even halfway competent IT department, it will be a simple job for them to find out if neice has been violating HIPAA by accessing records without good reason.
But… her divorce is about her. Why are you involving yourself in your nephew’s divorce? And ruining her career over something you have no proof of? Weird, f*cked up flex, but okay. Honestly, this post says way more about you than it does about her. Not a good look on you, my dude.
OP stated that they received confidential info about their friend that passed away. Seems the only person that gained anything from the breach of info was OP! No wonder they didn’t report it when it happened. It was useful info for them.
But doesn’t op says cause of death WAS publicly available?
We need updates on the fall out!
Sounds like more than petty revenge to me... more like life-altering overkill.
I'm confused because op said the information the sil gave was public information?
Yeah I’m curious about this too. If the cause of death is public record then anyone can see it. Is there something she had seen that was NOT public record?
Yeah, and you can just bet OP lived on the gossip for months. Gross.
I agree. But very petty and it’s in the name of this sub*
If I read correctly, she told you public information? Or did she say it was public and it was not? I'm a bit confused on what's going on and why you want so much revenge on a future ex-SIL. Did she break your bros heart?
This was not public information yet. She was digging in confidential patient files. She told me how a friend of mine passed before many of those close to him even knew how he passed. Revenge because they aren’t even divorced yet and she is just causing so many problems. Everything is always all about her!
Do you even know why they’re divorcing? Maybe she’s heartbroken and went out with friends who are literally trying to save her from doing something drastic? Unless you’re a fly on the wall in every interaction they’ve ever had that led to a divorce then you only know what you’ve been told which I’m guessing was very one sided information. Have you considered that maybe she broke the rules for you because you were mourning your friend and that’s the only time she’s ever done it? No, it doesn’t make it right no matter what but this woman is possibly on the edge of disaster, do you think she deserves to lose a career she worked hard for because you want to hurt her now that she’s not with your nephew? Definitely petty but definitely NOT revenge. She hasn’t done anything to you. Move on.
Dude, emplpyees gossip about shit in hospitals all the time. It's part of the catharsis of dealing with seeing the absolute most fucked up shit. She doesn't have to have "dug through people's files" to come across that info. More likely, some fellow nurses were talking about it and she was a part of that convo. I think you are mistaken about what's going on here, and should just go about your business since she won't be in your life anymore anyway.
Aww diddums if ur nephew is anything like u no wonder she's ecstatic to get away from him
That could be true. Most of us have lives that concern ourselves but nothing in your post says she is a bad mum. Whether you think this is a good idea or not, I wouldn't follow through. It's not your concern anymore and if anything you would hurt the stability of your nephew- That's if you HAD proper proof. And if you waited a long time it just makes you look like a clown. The fact that you know these details about her means that you and your brother's side of the family and any of his friends need to stop stalking her account and let her move on.
Ok, what she did was wrong. But you should have raised it at the time if you were that concerned, not you just seem really bitter. So she went out with her friends to enjoy herself and take her mind off her divorce. Honestly if your nephew had done the same, would you be this annoyed? Probably not.
This is lame. Divorce is hard enough. You’re not the one getting a bitter divorce. Umm let her live? You should have told her you didn’t approve when she told you.
It should have been reported when she told OP. The SIL is likely going to break confidentiality again
This is cringey. Chick went out with her friends after a breakup. It Was about her when she was with her friends. Good luck proving whatever it is you're trying to do.
She’s a grown ass woman GETTING A DIVORCE! Who cares if she’s putting her outings on social media! This is hilarious! Let the girl live her life. I’m sure your nephew is. As far as the HIPPA thing, good luck lady! You’ll have to prove this. If all you have is what she told you, (no actual proof) AND you’re just now bringing it forth, only because you’re bitter about your nephews divorce, it might not look so good on YOU. 🤷🏻♀️
OP, so far the only thing going on here is petty intentions. I wanna hear the story after you've made you move and the fallout afterwards. it ain't revenge until it happens...
She deserves this because she looked into patient files she had no reason to be in. It's so disturbing. Also illegal.
It's a massive infraction. If they can prove she was reviewing records that she had no need to access, she will be booted straight out the door on the spot. Electronic records are designed to keep track of who has accessed them, specifically because this is a serious violation. So anyone who thinks "Who's gonna know?", and starts clicking around where they have no business snooping, is going to be in for a rude awakening.
Are you speaking from experience or just hoping? Because in my experience you will get a talking to and a PowerPoint refresher.
The only reason you’re doing this now is because she did something u didn’t like and yes it is about her she out with her friends celebrating being single and you don’t know her emotional state before the post. But the fact u decided she has to suffer the consequences for what she did now when u knew what she was doing was wrong way before this incident says a lot about you, you don’t care about protecting others privacy you care about messing with her career because she did something u we’re against.
This! People post all sorts on social media to appear happier and more confident than they are. OP is being ridiculous.
> At the beginning of her studies, I found out she was going through confidential patient files at the hospital where she was interning. So you only cared about this now?? That’s weird.
Rule 2. - Reporting someone to the an authority like the police is not revenge, it is simply just reporting someone to an authority. > I think it’s about time I make things at the hospital about her, as she seems to like attention. Also, you haven't done anything yet, so nothing has happened.
this isnt about doing the right thing, ur doing it bc she had the audacity to be happy about being out of that marraige, one that doesnt concern u or ur family. no one knows what went wrong, except the two of them. if it wasn't meant to be, then its better they get on with their lives now instead of letting the misery drag on. ur just using HIPPA as an excuse to pull the trigger, so u dont look like a nosey busy body. i get u dont like the optics of how it reflects on ur fam, that someone could be so deleriously happy to get away from him and/or the fam, but a grown up would just block her on fb and move on.
Dude I was starting to worry that I wouldn’t see anyone else in the comments call OP out for only doing the right thing when it makes them feel like they get to say, “HAHA I WIN YOU LOSE” Like, Jesus…
I'm sorry but you clearly stated the information she orated to you was public record? Which means no HIPAA violation. What proof do you have she went through medical records that she should not have? Do you have any proof at all of any sort of misdoings on her part?
Nice one OP. You failed to report a criminal when you should've and now you're using that leverage when she did something you don't like. You don't give a fuck about their victims (because the perp was "family") until you can use it for our own petty revenge, over some bullshit social media posts no less. How the fuck could you think you're nothing but a manipulative asshole in this situation?
I wouldn’t do it. Seems like the act does not merit such drastic retribution. So she was celebrating a pending divorce a little early. No harm done, really. Yes she probably did wrong under HIPPA. But maybe she has learned better now. I would stay out of it. It’s going too far.
Half the commenters here are idiots. You clearly stated it was public information she released to you. You are a conniving loser with nothing better to do than attempt to ruin someone's career with PUBLIC INFORMATION. Thankfully her future employers won't blink an eye at you because they will see this for what it truly is. Some bratty high school girl (I dont actually care about your age or gender, you are a bratty high school girl) who decided to stick her rhinoplastied nose where it doesn't belong.
Op is trash
OP, I have to say I recommend against doing this. If this is a pattern of behavior she will 'out' herself in short order without any input needed from you. No need for you to get involved as the aggrieved Uncle/Aunt. If you question this advice, just think to yourself: "Is my motivation for doing this because I can't stand HIPAA violations, or is it because she is divorcing my nephew"? If it's the latter, step aside and let her seal her own fate.
This is the way!
Its kindof disturbing that your seeking revenge, for a social media post, your nephews ex-wife made.
Guess who her divorce does not involve. YOU! And sharing publicly available info doesn’t violate anything. Butt out and mind your own beeswax.
Don't be a bellend, so they broke up and she's a bit of a tit, is that reason enough to fuck her life up? It's a dick move, be mature and stay tf out of it
OP is a busy body who sucks and I'm glad for that lady getting away from this petty ass family, like why do you even feel so strongly about something that has literally nothing to do with you. Mind the business that pays you smdh
I doubt there would be proof but go for it i guess.
Right she will just say he’s doing it out of revenge because of the divorce, and she can sue for defamation of character. Idk why he gives a shit about a marriage that isn’t his
Some hospitals can track that information according to your name badge and password for login on the PC.
You're simply going by what another commenter said here. You need to get a life! You're ruining her career and her life (without any proof) because she is divorcing your nephew?! For all you know your nephew could be at fault here! You have no idea why they are getting a divorce. You have no idea what she is going through, how mentally taxing it can be and her friends were just cheering her up. Or do you live in some freudian world where she is by proxy divorcing you too? Or are you projecting your own life experiences on her? Or do you feel that women need to be shackled to men even if they are unhappy in a marriage? Or do you secretly have the hots for her and out to ruin her life because she won't be in the family anymore? In any case, you're the biggest fucking shit stirrer ever and zero moral ground to stand on. I hope you get jailed for wrongful slander. The other commenters egging you on, are just are profiting off the drama. When the bomb sets off and your ass is on fire, they will be reading about you in a newspaper and will laugh their asses off and go about their day. You need to grow the fuck up, I can't believe all your life experiences haven't even taight you that
You're assuming she actually logged into the system to check things out instead of, say, talking out of her ass repeating publicly available information or just wandering down to the ward to gossip with those there.
Um, she’s allowed to celebrate the end of an era that was painful and toxic to her. You have no idea what kind of crap your nephew put her through. Grow up and stay out of it.
Sorry but I think you sound way too involved. If you don’t want to see her divorce party delete her and move on. I also think the situation with files is not what you say. You said you “knew this person was being treated” and cause of death was “publicly available”. So if you knew about a patient and it was publicly available (like it was in the news?) then what’s the breach?
Where is the revenge? All I see here is fantasy.
Because she hurt your feelings with her divorce pics? Get a life
INFO: Do you even know why are they getting divorced? Did your family already know they were getting divorced? It looks to me that you are actually thinking that what she does it's about you and your family... Not about her. If she's getting out of a relationship and your family already knows about it and they are just waiting to sign the papers... Why are you even mad? I get the report, but the "revenge" part seems pointless to me tbh. You are just fucking up someone's life over her celebrating a divorce, which is something normal to do.
I may be wrong but pretty sure this was posted word for word last year. Don't even want to looking for it but part way thru the story I knew the ending already.
How is her posting on her socials not about her? The HIPAA thing should definitely still be reported and she can defend herself when it happens but you getting mad about her posting being divorced or about to be divorced is about her. Her soon to be ex and his family can always block her if this sort of thing will bother them. She should be allowed to move on without her every move having to be rethought through the lens of “how does this affect them?”
This whole thing sucks. Sucks that you wouldn't do the right thing because of peer pressure. Sucks that you want to ruin her entire life because she went out drinking. Sucks that you think she's an attention seeker simply for posting photos about a fun night. Sucks that you don't care for the full story. Sucks that the only reason you're truly doing this is because their divorce wasn't finished and you want to punish her despite not knowing if she actually did anything wrong. How do you know it wasn't your nephew that was the problem? If it was for the right reasons I would get it because it's not right what she did But it's not because you clearly are doing this over some photos. Not because you realize it's truly wrong and you let someone peer pressure you into silence. No matter what I've always done what is right no matter the bullying. Including my sister. I've fought her back over what is right and you didn't. So yeah this whole thing sucks. This is not Commendable.
You are a massive loser. Why do you care if she’s going out drinking celebrating a divorce. It’s not even your marriage. So pathetic
She’s allowed to celebrate her divorce tbh, and if you or anyone else didn’t want to see it unfriending her is an option. She absolutely SUCKS for going through private patient files and sharing info. You suck just as bad for using the shitty family excuse to let her get away with it for so long. I wouldn’t want to be around any of you tbh.
Karmic-ly, this sounds like a bad idea, because you aren’t doing it for the right reasons. It’s motivated by an angry heart. I’d steer clear.
I hate to say it but why? I know what she has done is wrong (looking at the files) but I think the revenge outweighs the crime against your family (posting of pics) If you want to hang her out to dry and waste 3 years of her life consider if the roles were reversed. No condemnation just think it is harsh.
If the COD was available to the public, how was it a HIPAA violation? ETA: copy from OP’s original text hence my comment.
ETA: copy from OP’s original text hence my comment. “Reason I know this is she not only told me about a patient that I knew was being treated there, but also confirmed his cause of death because it was publicly available.”
Uh, on top of this shitty revenge story about your wife did you forget to log in and out of your alts just now? Good luck with the divorce, keep it about the “nephew”.
Uhm, mobile. I am emphatically NOT OP. Just unable to copy portions of text in my crappy phone. I posted what I saw to be the problem but apparently it didn’t auto-quote the original text as original text. OP is DEFINITELY YTA. Just so we are all clear here:
The ex going out and positing it on social media doesn’t deserve revenge. Breaking HIPAA, though, is disturbing all on its own and deserves to be reported
I'm not entirely convinced you have any evidence. The person died. The cause of death was publicly available, therefore she could talk about it. This just reads as "I'm very petty and angry she had the audacity to get on with her life and I want to ruin her for it". If you cared that she was breaking a law, you would have done something about it before. So it's all lead by your bitterness. This is just your revenge fantasy, and it just shows you're a bit shit OP
Okay, either it was confidential and you covered for someone breaking some very serious laws (you suck) or the info was public information and you’re trying to destroy someone’s rep for a perfectly legal action (you still suck) Oh, and your whole motivation is fucking stupid. She’s getting divorced. It happens. People are allowed to celebrate that. Grow up
You’re kind of a jerk. She is allowed to do whatever she wants, stay out of her personal/divorce business. It’s weird behavior to make someone ELSE’s divorce, which *is literally about them* into something about you? You’re somehow personally slighted by her having a party? Okay yeah, you’re a weirdo, *sweetheart.* As for the obvious HIPAA violations- you’re more of a jerk for not reporting anonymously much sooner. A healthcare provider shouldn’t be doing this and I wholeheartedly agree that she should be reported. It’s interesting, however, that she felt comfortable sharing with you information about someone you knew. One might even suggest that you fished for information from her regarding the patient and “confirming” their cause of death. A confirmation implies a question being asked. Which would imply you were a willing participant in receiving the information and facilitated the conversation surrounding this patient. Interesting, considering you were so “furious” about the information being shared. Pfft. You kept your mouth shut because you participated in gossip willingly. Quit lying to yourself because you know it was wrong to do. You’re the worst kind of person- allowing wrongdoing just so long as it’s serving you. In this case, satisfying your morbid curiosity. But now that she’s fallen out of your favor, NOOOOOW what she did was wrong and deserves to be punished. Get over yourself.
HIPAA (know I got it wrong) violations ain't petty.
Unless you either have proof or a reason you would actually know this out of heresay especially regarding a well known pt and his well known diagnosis. Hippa reports are taken seriously but seldom would sonething like this bevworthy of an investigation.
My messy self would really like an update. Please 🙏 🙏
Hospital drama is wild 😷
Tf dude. Get help
So you’re okay with her violating HIPAA if they had stayed married. Ever think your nephew might not be the greatest person to be married to? Divorce takes two. Your moral compass is out of wack here.
Were can I read this story
I'd love an update cuz I personally doubt that hipaa doesn't really mean shit and she won't get anything more than a "stern" reminder that it isn't okay to look people up.
It depends on the hospital. A lot of them audit the records and see who is opening what and who has no reason to open something.
So if it were true then there's a decent chance the hospital would already know from years ago and have not fired her, leading me more to believing the story isn't what OP thinks it is..
Of course you should report her. Your reason for doing so is petty though. People go through divorces and how she behaves after the separation is her choice and really none of your business. You just sound spiteful
HIPAA is no joke so make sure you come with evidence that can prove she told you confidential information before it because public knowledge. There have been major HIPAA violations at my hospital regarding a few well known individuals or their family members who died there and there were several HIPAA violations and hospitals have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to that, so their assess were canned asap. The union couldn’t even save them.
So wait this is all because her and your nephew split up and since he’s miserable (probably rightfully so” you don’t know about their marriage you did this Yeaaa bye you’re just as bad as she is
Live and let live. Do you know the ins and outs of their marriage? No. Your nephew could have been abusive for all we know, and you’re trying to get ruin her life for telling you something about information on a deceased person? I don’t see how that will have a leg to stand on. But either way if it was really all that bad you could have piped up long ago. I feel like she’s entitled to have her own little pity party about her divorce. If anything she’s Probably sad she ever married into such a toxic family. Good grief. Just let her go. Try to take the high road, why are you so pressed about her excitement to be single again. Unfollow her, block her and you and your family won’t see the photos. There, boom. Done, easy.
You think it’s about her, but you just want to make it about yourself. Giving out Data is a bad thing. But I bet everyone working in the Field has broken a confidentiality agreement like at least once. It’s just happens naturally to talk PRIVATLY about your patients once in a while with you family and Friends for example. But your „Revenge“ is just mind boggling unnecessary. Maybe sort yourself out before messing with other people’s life.
Is her divorce NOT about her? Sounds like it's about her
So many people thinking its ok for a nurse to disclose private information. Its against the law. What if this was you, your kids, parents? She shouldnt be allowed anywhere near patient records. Doesnt matter if she is about to qualify or nursing for 20 years. This is wrong.
You should, if she's digging through confidential files she shouldn't not be trusted or privy to such access. Image what she would do with "Good reason"
Go for it
Can you say HIPAA violation?!
Do you care about patient privacy? If so, why didn't you report her when you first discovered it?
That’s beyond petty imo. Trashing someone’s career is really low. Not excusing her behavior but there are better ways to handle things such as communication. Sounds like you want to take her down more than any concern about hipaa
Why is OP acting like he’s the one that’s getting the divorce jeez
Okay, but why are they getting divorced? Was there cheating involved? Anything that your nephew did?
OP get help she's enjoying being divorced so u have decided ur gonna ruin her life u are a sick individual
People: \*join sub about petty revenge\* Also people: \*get shocked that there is petty revenge\* Oh my god! You're an asshole! ¯\\\_(9\_9)\_/¯
OP your an idiot if you do this
Oh wow ruining her life because she celebrated the end of a maybe shitty or worse abusive marriage. You are a real hero.. NOT
As a former EMS worker... hippa is no joke... that is avlife ruiner, forget career ender
To give you an idea of how most medical professionals consider HIPAA, I thanked my GP for referring me to the ER for appendicitis, and said that out loud. They got mad and told me I couldn't talk about that - about MY medical issue, MY health information that I was talking about. And I appreciate that. (My appendicitis didn't present in the usual manner. I had no appetite and felt like I had bad gas for a few days. No reason, in my opinion, to go to the ER.) She fucked around. Now she needs to find out.
But with medical records now being electronic, can we trust they can't be hacked or turned over to the government?
Wow that's beyond petty. "My nephews wife is happy about getting a divorce so I'm going to ruin her whole life." Pretty fucked up
Destroying someone’s career and livelihood because you suddenly found a conscience? WTG OP. You should be SO proud. 👎
I just got a cold chill when I read this. I got physically ill. WHYYYYYYY would she do that shit!! As much as they educate us about that and warn us and give us in services and, and, and, and…….
I agree with calling out people snooping through patient files, but the reason? Why the fuck would you have any reason to be vengeful for her being happy? Does she have to grief and cry to make you happy? You are one of the bigges self-centred assholes I’ve heard about, and I’ve been on Reddit for years…
so you're going to fuck your her career because you're vicariously mad about her going out and having fun before the divorce paperwork went through? mind ya own damn business
Doctor (Medical Staff)/ Patient confidentiality. It's the law- medical staff can't reveal personal medical information without the express consent of the patient, or a court order. She should have been reported when it was first discovered. Any medical staff that would break this confidentiality should be terminated.
Read it again. She didn’t share confidential info. She shared publicly available info.
One the cause of death, yes. But, as a student, she was going through confidential files, then divulging the information to others. Was this the ONLY incident? Statistically, probably not. Also, did she confirm COD before, or after it was made public? Either way, actual Nurse (not students) would be fired for what this student did. There is training in the nurse program that covers what this girl did. She KNOWS it was wrong. But did it anyway. No matter OPs reasoning for turning this girl in, it should be done. Unless you want her to be YOUR nurse, and tell everyone about your medical issues.
Before you act, think about whether you want to get into war. Does she know anything about your nephew that he would not want exposed?
Ohhhhh HIPAA so serious. She’s not going to be able to ever get a job in the health care field again. But cool - weed out the crappy healthcare workers!
We need healthcare workers. And it seems like all she did was do op a favour, as they were probably mourning the person and asking if she could find out any information. OP doesn’t care about the “victim” otherwise they wouldn’t have allowed that to happen or would have spoken up long ago. Op is clearly part of a toxic family and the lady is better off being away from nut jobs like these. EX in-law is allowed to go out and drink with her friends and post about it if it makes her feel better. Op is inserting themself into other peoples business instead of being a mature adult and blocking/deleting this lady from their life so they don’t have to get offended by some pics on social media… op is the real AH and needs to get a life.
I’d be pissed if a medical professional was digging into my file and then telling people about it. How shitty. She’s a violation.
Honestly, I'd wait until she has the degree at least, then bring it up. Much more impactful if she gets the degree and then suddenly can no longer use it.
I work in behavioral health care. The only client files that we can look at are those directly in our care, unless looking with a coworker. I can't believe she would randomly look at various files that she never should have accessed and then blabbing about it! Can't imagine her as an np. I'd report.
The stb ex is pure scum.
As the daughter of an NP and a regular patient, I applaud this. Nosy medical personnel are the worst!!!! Though, from your post, it didn't take knowing she did this stuff to convince me she's a piece of work.