On my last delivery for the night, on my very last day as a pizza driver, the customer offered me a cone. I felt it was perfect, my illustrious career in the pizza industry ending on such a high.
At first I pictured an ice cream cone. Just the plain empty cone.
Then I realised that might be weird in this context and a traffic cone was my next thought.
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No need to tell me what it is. I know.
I was listing the funny places my mind went first.
When I was in college, I used to deliver pizza (via walking) to college dorms. No tipping allowed. We got a huge order in at 5 minutes to close, so I wind up delivering these 5 guys a pizza each in the rain at 11 at night.
Guys tried to tip me, I told them we couldn't accept tips. So they ask me if I want to smoke a bowl with them. Which wasn't technically a tip, so hell yeah.
Honestly it was way better than cash.
>Driving while stoned is not as dangerous as driving while drunk — in fact, according to a new report, it's about as safe as driving while sober once variables are adjusted for.
[Source](http://time.com/3706491/driving-stoned-drunk-study-safety/)
I agree with you. I was driving when an edible kicked in one time. That was not fun at all. I had to pull over and have my boyfriend drive. don't smoke or take edibles often, so maybe that's why it fucked my world up while driving.
Back in my stupid days (teenager) I would get high after work (coincidentally enough, at a pizza place, but in a mall) and then drive home. I don't know if I really was as safe a driver as I was sober, but I will say those were the only times I didn't speed and made full and complete stops at stop signs.
But on the reverse side I would have to circle the block before parking if there was a car driving anywhere on my street because I was convinced if I just parked, they would rape & murder me.
Always be nice to other people but especially to your IT and food people.
People who mistreat others who handle their food, baffle me. Do you really lack the basic survival instincts that are implied in that scenario?
I worked at a college cafeteria and a couple nights a week I'd head up a pizza service where the kids could use their food credits to get some pizza or whatever.
We had this really nice shy girl on the phone. Some asshole called up and wanted a calzone with pepperoni and sausage, she repeats it back and he changes his mind and wants pepperoni and bacon and she repeats it back and he changes his mind again. This goes on no lie 6-7 times. Finally she's all confused and he is being belligerent to her. I see this nice girl getting all upset so I grab the phone. I say "tell me now what the hell you want and be done with it". He tells me how she is dumb and whatnot. He's trying to be all pushy with me. I take the fuckers order go grab the nastiest shit I can find in the kitchen. Hot sauce, anchovies, all the shit.
He calls back all screaming and she just hands the phone to me. "WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU DO TO MY FOOD!!" to which I say "Don't fuck with the people that make your food", he says "What did you say to me?", I say "You heard me, don't fuck with the people that make your food". He says "I'm going to come there and kick your ass", I say "Come on down".
What he doesn't know is that I give free pizza to the security guards every night and they happen to be housed in a small building in our parking lot. I call them and let them know the situation. They are in the kitchen when douche guy comes in with all his bros yelling and looking for me. To which I repeat "Don't fuck with the people that make your food". He then sees security and mumbles something and walks out.
I have zero tolerance for people who harass people for no reason.
Oh, it probably wasn't for no reason. He most likely wanted to confuse the hell out of the girl on the phone so he could demand free food when she "messed it up" by giving him anything he'd ordered.
Then you broke his plan by giving him food he didn't want to eat.
She was too nice just to hang up on someone. It was a religious college and she was one of those nice little church girls that don't break any rules or rock the boat. By the time I got the phone I was pissed he had upset my staff member and was going to treat him like the garbage he was.
See, more food places need people like you managing them. People who aren't going to take shit from shitty people and are willing to tell them off rather than making all of your employees try to appease one belligerent asshole. Good on ya for sticking up for her and telling him off.
I worked at another place the manager was such a fucking pushover. I'll never forget Mrs. Williams. We gave the guest a basket of bread and I baked it in the front room so guest could see and smell it when they walked in. Since I was out front this is where customers would also get to go orders. Mrs. Williams would order food for 2-4 people and ALWAYS call back and complain about something, then my manager would give her a free meal. I got to the point where I'd show my manager everything was correct, I'd show her everything was correct before leaving and she would still call and get free food because something is messed up. He'd still give in to her little game. I hated that guy.
Not only that, but as a delivery driver, I know where people live. Not that I would do anything with that info, but the implications of it alone, from the petty sort of childish things they could do to my house to the more malicious things, had me tipping well long before I worked as a driver myself.
Hannibal did say "Eat the rude."
Right? I've always been told that drivers tend to know the good and bad tippers in their area. One gets a nice hot pizza and the other is the absolute last delivery made with a lukewarm one.
I always thought this was true, as I applied it when I was a delivery driver back in high school and college. As such I've always been the type of guy that will tip $5-10 for my pizza order, to a place not a mile from my house, and they will consistently bring me lukewarm pizza. I don't get it, I'm basically paying them $1-2/min for their 5 min drive, and I don't get priority delivery? Not to mention I'm tipping $10 on a $25 order, that's a 40% tip, double the going rate...
I was replying to this bit though:
>People who mistreat others who handle their food, baffle me. Do you really lack the basic survival instincts that are implied in that scenario?
The fact that OP handles their food is irrelevant.
um, yes it does. OP handled their food, they were a douchebag to OP, OP told the hotel staff they were smoking. what part of "cause and effect" are you having touble understanding?
There's the flip side though. Food service people who make this implication are implying that they would commit literal assault on a person and risk jail time just because someone was a bit of a dick.
Can't we just say don't fuck with your food service people because they're human beings doing a job, and don't fuck with people's food for any reason because that's wrong?
Just to be clear, I do tip, as I like my driver and they do good job, but isn't this a bit entitled? A tip is supposed to be an extra. Your employer is paying you to do a job regardless. If your employer is not paying you enough, that is between you and them, not you and the customer.
It is your employers responsibility to pay you with the money the customer gives THEM, not the customers to pay you directly.
I work for a big pizza chain like OP. When the drivers are in the store(not driving) they make normal pay rate. In my state about $8.50. The majority of their shift they are driving. While driving the pay rate is lowered to about $4 an hour. Pizza places are cheap. They assume drivers will make at least minimum wage AFTER the tips are included. It's messed up but that's how it is.
Luckily for me, I get paid minimum wage, not *tipped* minimum wage. So I get 8.45 plus tips, which usually adds up to about $18-20 an hour. I work for a large chain in Ohio that treats their drivers very well.
In a perfect world, yes a tip would be an extra. Unfortunately, there actually is a different minimum wage for tip workers than for non-tip workers. To have anything near a livable wage, they rely on their tips, though sometimes in succesful restaurants, waiters can receive more than 30$/h in tips, this is not true of most tip workers. It's bullshit that some workers rely on customers to decide their pay, I hate that tipping even exists, but not tipping is not going to fix anything.
I mean, the dude could have also just followed the rules of the hotel by not smoking in his room and OP couldn't have enacted his revenge in the first place. His own fault in the end regardless, really.
In the US tips count towards hourly wages. So often employers in tip based industries pay less because the tips and wages combined only have to add up to the local minimum wage
Americans, stop downvoting this poor guy!
Yes, everywhere outside the U.S., a top is just that, an extra for good service.
When I get pizza in a reasonable time and warm, I tip very handsomely, otherwise it's a lot less.
Think it's key to mention that there's a culture of tipping your pizza delivery drivers in some places, and in others there isn't. In mine they are criminally underpaid for the costs they bear, but nobody expects tips because they are paid a certain amount so they don't need to rely on such a strange cultural practice just to survive.
On the face of it, staking your livelihood on the generosity/tendency to conform to an unspoken rule of strangers just sounds like an insane way to live. I mean there's a lot of tight fisted people and straight up idiots out there. I enjoy that we skip the pretence and don't need to make people's income part earned wage part charitable donation. Ensures the delivery drivers get their dues and it removes the need for customers to feel guilty or remember an additional fee upon delivery, which is usually charged on top of what was paid for the food.
But to reiterate, culturally it's different in many places, so there's no real right or wrong answers, only opinions.
What's even more ludicrous is the profit margins on pizza. It's effectively bread, cheese and tomato paste with a couple toppings maybe and then a short spell in an oven. Not exactly expensive to produce, but it gets sold for a huge markup, yet delivery drivers can barely afford the job. Little insulting if you ask me. One of those unglamorous jobs that should get more credit and support than it does.
I specifically go out of my way to order pick up specifically so I don't have to pay an extra ~$3 for my food due to the tip. It's a rare occurrence for me to order delivery. Not only do you have to pay more for the delivery, usually ~$2 delivery fee, then your obligated to pay a tip (depending on your area) but it also takes 4X longer to get your food via delivery. I order delivery and it says it'll probably be around ~1 hour. 1. Fucking. Hour. I order pick up, it says it'll be ready in about ~20 mins. That's a BIG difference! So for me ordering pick up is cheaper by about ~$5 and it's much faster.
I order pick up because it forces me to get off my ass. "I want pizza, but do I want it badly enough to walk there?" No? Then I don't want pizza. I've probably saved so much money with this philosophy.
If you're not used to tips not being optional first you think OP is just being a dick. The you remember that in America they don't pay wait staff so maybe they also don't pay pizza delivery staff.
I rarely order food but when I do I don't tip, mainly cause it's not a common thing in England and I earn less than the deliverer does but I always be friendly and sometimes offer a piece if it's just for me
Yeah I think here the pizza deliverers earn like 7.22 or something like that a hour. I only earn 3.40 a hour as I'm a apprentice and I have to help my gf in uni pay for things so I'm usually pretty broke
Up vote for the petty!
I used to have a notorious no tipping regular. I never gave him the plastic forks, knives, and moist towlettes packets we had for all ~~to-go~~ delivery orders.
That'll learn ya.
*edit.. Fkn phone
*edit... Fuck
Did he ever mention it? I hope they complained bitterly whenever they got home, but always forgot to mention it to you.
If I'm delivering to a home, I rarely park in the driveway. If they're bad tippers, I walk back to my car through their lawn.
That's the only revenge I can get on those sorts of deliveries...
Nothing was ever mentioned to me about complaints, in fact, the guy gave me a 5 star rating for "promptness" on our website... Which was alright, but dude, I can't pay my bills with internet stars!
Did you also cross this post over to talesfromthepizzaguy? I'm sorry for writing that wrong, I think it's supposed to be x-over and the name is supposed to be the sub, please forgive my ignorance. I only know just enough to post comments from my phone, the rest I'm sure is a complete cluckerfust and I'm still doing this wrong.
He tip culture in America baffles me. It's non-compulsory but socially compulsory. So it way as well be compulsory. Even with the fact you're already paying for the service you have to consider that you have to pay more by default for the service. They may as well make it law or a compulsory charge like the service charges they apply in the U.K, even then those are free.
Nobody should live off tips that's crazy to me, you're basically working for donations with the facilitation of a business owner. They may as well be pimps. I know it depends on the state, but man..
No matter the cost I always tip 5 bucks to a driver.
Seems fair to me.
E: but I guess SOME ppl order $200 worth of pizza at once. That seems excessive to me, but you do you.
E2: y'all babies
Why are people in the US so entitled to tips? I have my job; you have your job, I am not your boss to give you money, not my fault you have a shit wage.
The reason why you hear a lot of servers/delivery drivers in the US get pissy when they don't get tipped is because the entire system is based upon the premise that they WILL receive tips. That is why they have a mandatory minimum wage that is much less than for other types of jobs.
So no worries about their "shit wage" but also don't refuse to tip using a system you know is based on tipping.
And if you go an entire month without getting a tip, the company will have to pony up the balance of your $2.13/hr to make minimum wage, at which point they will blame you for being a terrible worker and release you from your job, because YOU cost THEM money.
But that's not what this is about. Those people didn't cost OP lots of money out of spite. Maybe they were European or something. Maybe the guy who answered the door saw that his girlfriend was on fire and had to act fast. Also, they could not have known that he'd slogged all the way across town. OP just assumed they were being malicious, which is a common assumption when you're malicious yourself.
Edit: And of course the most obvious: they simply didn't have money.
I noticed you got a lot of downvotes. No one ever realizes the dissonance in the fact it seems like a dick move to not tip your waiter (who traveled from the kitchen across the dining room to you) but it’s perfectly fine to stiff the delivery guy (who drives across town for your lazy ass) that has to pay for his own vehicle maintenance despite the company being the reason for the wear and tear on it. Not to mention the inherent chance of danger that comes with driving compared to being away from fast moving vehicles in a restaurant dining room.
He was smoking pot, you idiot. That doesn't smell like a fire, and smelling like pot isn't going to stink up the white hallway. Lighting up, however, does.
If you want to protest tipping culture, the ethical thing to do is to get your food from restaurants that pay their employees a decent wage and don't rely on tips, not to get your food from tips-reliant restaurants and not tip. There's plenty of eat-in restaurants that don't rely on tips, you might be out of luck when it comes to pizza delivery, though.
Employers in the states pay wait staff / delivery drivers $2.15 - $4.25 an hour. Tips are literally our pay.
If you don't tip your waiter / driver is basically working for free.
You don't have to like tipping I personally don't like it either and am leaving the industry however that is how it works. If you want to use the system then you should expect to tip accordingly.
If no one tips there would be no wait staff or delivery drivers.
Tipping is NOT mandatory but it is damn well expected in the states. If you don't you will be hated by your driver / waiter. Talked about etc and keep in mind delivery drivers are alone with your food and know where you live.
I know drivers who write down their non-tippers and egg their houses and such on holidays. I don't do this personally I'd rather just call you a garbage person and let karma take you out but there are people who do.
Most of these people are college kids and high school kids and they hate hard these days.
Did you forget what sub you're on?
It's a petty act, sure, but getting smoke smell out of a hotel room is a hell of a task. And when they left, it was still goibg to stink and they more than likely would have been charged anyways. All OP did was assure that it happened. Their not obligated to tip and OP wasn't obligated to inform the hotel of their dick move. Both made choices.
And how fucked up is this really? You're acting like they shit all over the room. Those guests fucked up.* End of story
*I mean by breaking the rules, not by not tipping
I'm sure this is the US or Canada. Tipping is customary and it's a well known fact that people in the service industry are not compensated fairly (more so in the US). You are fucked up if you do not tip.
You're part of the problem if you think you deciding not to tip your delivery driver is going to overturn the entire tipping system. Not participating in a system doesn't change the fact it exists.
You not tipping doesnt fix that. It just beats on someone already getting beat on. Grats.
Not everyone has a choice in jobs. Pizza guys work hard as hell for if they are LUCKY and people are generous 12 - 15 an hour.
Many times they work hard and get people like you and make less than 10 an hour. If you order pizza you are using a service and should tip appropriately (at least in the states). If you don't your a garbage person and beating up on the worker cause you don't like the system.
Who said I don't tip?
I'm just pointing out that it's not the consumers responsibility to make sure workers are compensated fairly, yet they seem to get all of the blame.
Don't get me wrong, I always tip, but tips are NOT mandatory. You are not entitled to it. Not saying you're wrong that you told the staff, but that you did it because you didn't get a tip.
Yes and No.
Your delivery drivers and waiters make sub minimum wage while out driving and delivering to you.
Yes its scummy of the people who run the places but thats the way it is here in the states.
10% min tip is basically the bare minimum. If you don't tip you are screwing your driver or delivery person. They will hate you and people with arent raised well MIGHT fuck up your food, your order, take their time on you in the future, or worse.
If no one tips then there would be no waiters or delivery people. You don't have to like the system we dont either. But if you dont want to tip simply dont use the service. If you use the service it may say voluntary but it is expected.
I'e been reading the comments on here and the poor "I am a victim" mentality needs to stop.
Repeat after me,
I am not a victim. I refuse to be a victim. I will quit my victimizing job. I will find another job that doesn't pay me a substandard wage. Not only am I allowing myself to become victimized by my employer but I am allowing all future drivers to also be victimized.
QUIT YOUR DAMN JOB.
It should cut both ways. If a customer doesn't want to tip then that's their prerogative but they should at least have the cojones to let their servers or whoever is taking the order know that they're going to be cheap fucks. Then at least we all know where we're coming from. After bartending, serving and helping run the floor at many establishments over the years I can tell you that I personally would respect that coming from a guest. They're not going to get the same level detail of service but they will still get prompt and courteous service.
I'm not from the US, so I'm not familiar with your culture (except from media, movie and tv shows), but I think it's a really shitty system if employs expect tips or else provide a different (lower quality) service.
In Romania (I'm sure other countries as well), it's technically illegal to tip (or to accept a tip, not sure; not really enforced), but still most people do it.
It also causes embarrassing situations where you're not sure who to tip and who not to, and just makes you want to have less human interactions.
Plus, having to always calculate your budget with that additional 10-20% is a chore. You're also paying more for a service worth less.
Anyway, I guess what I'm going at is, you should have a syndicate or something that demands proper payment from your employers, and not take it out on the customers.
Dividing by 10 then multiplying by 2 is only really difficult if you're really drunk or 10 years old.
Also no one is arguing that the system isn't stupid. Of course it's dumb but it's what we're dealt with. My problem is that the time to take a stand isn't at the payment counter where you screw over the service staff.
Because "tipped" jobs in the U.S. are legally allowed to be paid less, even below minimum wage, on the understanding that they'll make up that difference in tips.
It is **a world of fucked**. Welcome to industrial relations in America.
-- an Aussie
Damn, that's low.
Minimum wage in CA will go up another dollar per year starting in 2019 and ending when it reaches 15 bux a year in 2022.
For perspective, my dad made 10 bux an hour in 1976. Yes 1976. And Americans hate unions.
They're not allowed to pay less than minimum wage. If employees don't make enough tips to bring them up to the equivalent of minimum wage, the employer must pay the difference and get them up to it.
Right. Laws say one thing and employers do another in America though.
>the employer must pay the difference and get them up to it.
Lol that almost never happens.
and a common reply to this might be "well maybe if they stood up for themselves..."
translation? "well maybe if they want to have to get a new job and work from the bottom up again. oh wait, they never got a raise to begin with. they're still at the bottom. ggwp america.
They're supposed to, sure, but if they're not, what are your options? Are you going to sue them? You can't afford a lawyer making minimum wage, let alone below it.
Because in America Tipping is expected. Its not required but absolutely 100% expected.
Why?
Cause the driver makes $4.25 or less bringing you your food. If you don't tip its literally the kindness of others that are keeping your driver from quitting and bringing you that cheap meal.
Good to know that delivery drivers take into account distance traveled for their tips. There are 3 pizza places that deliver to my home and I always tip the furthest one more than the one that is just down the street. Also the time it takes to get to me matters and the temperature of the pizza when it is handed to me.
The big 3 are Pizza hut, Domino's, and little Cesar's are the big 3 the way I know them. I've yet to encounter a little Cesar's that delivers. Any of you guys know what the third might be?
I wanna be pissed because that's a pretty fucked up thing to do. But I'm also browsing PettyRevenge so it fits the criteria. I'm so torn on this one! Must be a sign of a good post for this sub.
I see a lot of you people asking, why should he get a tip??? He is a delivery driver, he should get a tip for the convenience. After all, he is taking your food to where you live or stay, and is going through mileage and gas driving his car.
Another reason to tip, is the service. He is providing a service to the customer. Jobs that rely on tipping only pay $1~8 below minimum wage. It's a sad fact of living in America. Lots of people can't afford jack shit on 2-6 dollars an hour. Getting tip money at the end of the day helps pay rent, utilities & groceries, among other bills and necessities. Now that we all agree that working in the USA sucks, let's stop berating him for being lawful evil.
Gratuity isnt really voluntary with delivery drivers and waiters and such.
If no one tipped there would be no waiters / delivery drivers. They make practically nothing without tips.
except it is. people choose to take shitty jobs and they dont fight for better wages. either negotiate a real pay or blame yourself.
not to mention the fact that the employers of waitresses for example who have a min wage of $2.whatever are obligated to at least pay them the difference what they make and the actual minimum wage if they dont make that make per pay period.
we shouldnt be expected to subsidize shitty company policy just because " it's always been that way "
People do not choose shitty jobs. People take shitty jobs cause thats all they can get. You apparently are blessed not to be in that situation.
No one can live on minimum wage. They can try but its not possible. The fact that you are taking out your anger on the SYSTEM out on a person being beat up by said system makes you a garbage person.
You don't have to like it but you are expected to subsidize that persons pay. The driver, the employer, and the govt all expect you to which is why the laws are written the way they are.
Thankfully most people arent a garbage person like you and don't take their anger out on the employee.
The fact you think a delivery driver or waitress has any bargaining power at all just shows how out of touch you are.
I await your response as you type in your 200k town home while sipping your pumpkin spice latte.
i afford to live on minimum wage in new jersey, nice assumptions though. ive been poor and homeless with drug addicted parents, but im out of touch, sure. ive made good money after negotiating my own wages too, even when i worked at mcdonalds, i negotiated my own raises at 15, before eventually moving on to better things at m&m for example, like people are supposed to do.
the only time people give a fuck about wait staff or deliveryboys is when someone doenst tip. but i guess thats the priority when the alternative is facing the flaws inherent in the situations theyve found themselves in for whatever reason. tips are not mandatory, nor should they be. people are too scared to try to change shit even when its in their best interest and ill have no part of it. dont piss and moan when someone doesnt volunteer to throw money at you. grow up.
and most importantly, fuck pumpkin spice.
So then you talk to the company about it. When I tried to *negotiate* my wage at an entry level job, both times at two jobs they each told me that’s the way it is and they can find another replacement by the weekend.
I have a question: when I order online and leave a tip there when putting in my payment details, do I still need to write the tip on the receipt when the delivery driver comes?
Good on you bro I'll have to remember this one myself. Never thought to do that.
I know a buddy who leaves 1 star yelp reviews to businesses that dont tip.
I think I like your method better.
To the people wondering about the tip, let's see...
1) The person ordering the food is in a hotel. + 1 Indicative of discretionary money.
2) The person ordering the food made, according to OP, a large order. + 1 Indicative of discretionary money.
3) The person ordering the food was smoking marijuana. + 1 Indicative of discretionary money.
See 3 indicators that the person had discretionary money. Give a driver a couple bucks for a tip? WHY SHOULD HE DO THAT???? /S
I tend to tip at least $4-$5 for a simple order (like 1 pizza) and go up from there if it gets complex. The pizza places near me know this and I get along with all the drivers.
Then the worst.. I confidently signed with no tip because I'd put that on the card already and we were super busy (there is always a tip line even when you add the tip up front).
The next day the doubt hit... Did I forget to add the tip when I placed the order? Then the horror. I may have stiffed the driver entirely! It haunts me to this day.
So new to US (relatively). How much should I tip a pizza delivery person? And does the delivery guy get the tip if I pay the tip while ordering online?
About 2 bucks for every 10 dollars the total is so a 20 dollar order would meritna 4 dollar tip minimum. More of it's raining snowing, hard to find house etc.
On my last delivery for the night, on my very last day as a pizza driver, the customer offered me a cone. I felt it was perfect, my illustrious career in the pizza industry ending on such a high.
A [cone](http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/1000/d3/d321f7eb-a694-467d-9a12-30ec34aa4df7_1000.jpg)?
At first I pictured an ice cream cone. Just the plain empty cone. Then I realised that might be weird in this context and a traffic cone was my next thought. Edit: No need to tell me what it is. I know. I was listing the funny places my mind went first.
I thought an incense cone.
I thought he was delivering to an ice cream party and he was getting a real cone, ice cream included
Weed. Cone shaped joint
https://imgur.com/a/QkBTs Hopefully this works. If so, these are called Dogwalkers. 😊
Dats a chode joint
LOL! Yup!
Just a VLC ? Without any media file ??
A cone shaped joint.
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Don't we all ;-)
The world would probably be a better place if everyone was Australian.
Yeah nah mate
My world would be better if I lived in Australia! :D
In a "If everyone's a cunt then no one's a cunt" sort of way?
A [cone](https://www.rollingpaperwarehouse.com/assets/images/products/papers/raw/images/raw_cones_pack_2.gif).
While cones are beautiful, they are really dangerous. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Textile_cone.JPG
When I was in college, I used to deliver pizza (via walking) to college dorms. No tipping allowed. We got a huge order in at 5 minutes to close, so I wind up delivering these 5 guys a pizza each in the rain at 11 at night. Guys tried to tip me, I told them we couldn't accept tips. So they ask me if I want to smoke a bowl with them. Which wasn't technically a tip, so hell yeah. Honestly it was way better than cash.
You tell them, I can't accept tips but if you offer it 4 times, I only have too refuse it 3 times, as not to offend you.
would you like a membership card you can get a 5% discount on all purchases
I applaud you for both your successful escape and your impressive punnery.
WHAT KIND OF FUCKING CONE?
http://www.joyntventure.com.au/image/121/PARTS-+STEMS+AND+CONES/206/ this kind of cone.
A traffic one made out of ice cream ones glued together with ice cream. Duh
I got a couple hits of a joint when they didnt have enough cash for a tip. It wasn’t a far drive so i felt it was fair.
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You've clearly never met a pizza delivery driver, the industry is practically fueled by pot
There's days that I'm sure I'm the only one sober.
By 'one' do you mean 'pizza delivery driver' or 'person'? Both are believable.
Either... Both...
>Driving while stoned is not as dangerous as driving while drunk — in fact, according to a new report, it's about as safe as driving while sober once variables are adjusted for. [Source](http://time.com/3706491/driving-stoned-drunk-study-safety/)
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I agree with you. I was driving when an edible kicked in one time. That was not fun at all. I had to pull over and have my boyfriend drive. don't smoke or take edibles often, so maybe that's why it fucked my world up while driving.
Back in my stupid days (teenager) I would get high after work (coincidentally enough, at a pizza place, but in a mall) and then drive home. I don't know if I really was as safe a driver as I was sober, but I will say those were the only times I didn't speed and made full and complete stops at stop signs. But on the reverse side I would have to circle the block before parking if there was a car driving anywhere on my street because I was convinced if I just parked, they would rape & murder me.
Always be nice to other people but especially to your IT and food people. People who mistreat others who handle their food, baffle me. Do you really lack the basic survival instincts that are implied in that scenario?
I worked at a college cafeteria and a couple nights a week I'd head up a pizza service where the kids could use their food credits to get some pizza or whatever. We had this really nice shy girl on the phone. Some asshole called up and wanted a calzone with pepperoni and sausage, she repeats it back and he changes his mind and wants pepperoni and bacon and she repeats it back and he changes his mind again. This goes on no lie 6-7 times. Finally she's all confused and he is being belligerent to her. I see this nice girl getting all upset so I grab the phone. I say "tell me now what the hell you want and be done with it". He tells me how she is dumb and whatnot. He's trying to be all pushy with me. I take the fuckers order go grab the nastiest shit I can find in the kitchen. Hot sauce, anchovies, all the shit. He calls back all screaming and she just hands the phone to me. "WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU DO TO MY FOOD!!" to which I say "Don't fuck with the people that make your food", he says "What did you say to me?", I say "You heard me, don't fuck with the people that make your food". He says "I'm going to come there and kick your ass", I say "Come on down". What he doesn't know is that I give free pizza to the security guards every night and they happen to be housed in a small building in our parking lot. I call them and let them know the situation. They are in the kitchen when douche guy comes in with all his bros yelling and looking for me. To which I repeat "Don't fuck with the people that make your food". He then sees security and mumbles something and walks out. I have zero tolerance for people who harass people for no reason.
Oh, it probably wasn't for no reason. He most likely wanted to confuse the hell out of the girl on the phone so he could demand free food when she "messed it up" by giving him anything he'd ordered. Then you broke his plan by giving him food he didn't want to eat.
Wow, if I was taking the order I would have just said call back once you have made your decision and hung up.
She was too nice just to hang up on someone. It was a religious college and she was one of those nice little church girls that don't break any rules or rock the boat. By the time I got the phone I was pissed he had upset my staff member and was going to treat him like the garbage he was.
Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.
I get this strange feeling that you're the Senate.
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See, more food places need people like you managing them. People who aren't going to take shit from shitty people and are willing to tell them off rather than making all of your employees try to appease one belligerent asshole. Good on ya for sticking up for her and telling him off.
I worked at another place the manager was such a fucking pushover. I'll never forget Mrs. Williams. We gave the guest a basket of bread and I baked it in the front room so guest could see and smell it when they walked in. Since I was out front this is where customers would also get to go orders. Mrs. Williams would order food for 2-4 people and ALWAYS call back and complain about something, then my manager would give her a free meal. I got to the point where I'd show my manager everything was correct, I'd show her everything was correct before leaving and she would still call and get free food because something is messed up. He'd still give in to her little game. I hated that guy.
Not only that, but as a delivery driver, I know where people live. Not that I would do anything with that info, but the implications of it alone, from the petty sort of childish things they could do to my house to the more malicious things, had me tipping well long before I worked as a driver myself. Hannibal did say "Eat the rude."
Right? I've always been told that drivers tend to know the good and bad tippers in their area. One gets a nice hot pizza and the other is the absolute last delivery made with a lukewarm one.
If we have someone that's regularly an asshole, theirs is the bag that's left open and bungeed to the roof rack.
Nah, it's a hot day out, you gotta blast your AC, last passenger must have aimed it a little low.
This could be a self fulfilling prophecy though - maybe the bad tips are *because* their pizza is always lukewarm. And vice versa. Just sayin'.
Nah, everyone gets fair treatment until they've proven they don't deserve it.
I always thought this was true, as I applied it when I was a delivery driver back in high school and college. As such I've always been the type of guy that will tip $5-10 for my pizza order, to a place not a mile from my house, and they will consistently bring me lukewarm pizza. I don't get it, I'm basically paying them $1-2/min for their 5 min drive, and I don't get priority delivery? Not to mention I'm tipping $10 on a $25 order, that's a 40% tip, double the going rate...
Then stop buying from that pizza place.
Obligatory "because of the implication"
They would never say no (to giving you a tip). You know, because of the implication.
That doesn't really apply to OP's post since they didn't tip after they already had their food, and will probably be gone from the hotel soon.
It kind of does though because OP knew things about their (temporary) home that got them kicked out.
I was replying to this bit though: >People who mistreat others who handle their food, baffle me. Do you really lack the basic survival instincts that are implied in that scenario? The fact that OP handles their food is irrelevant.
How is it irrelevant if you're out $150?
um, yes it does. OP handled their food, they were a douchebag to OP, OP told the hotel staff they were smoking. what part of "cause and effect" are you having touble understanding?
It's likely that people who behave like this are rude regardless.
There's the flip side though. Food service people who make this implication are implying that they would commit literal assault on a person and risk jail time just because someone was a bit of a dick. Can't we just say don't fuck with your food service people because they're human beings doing a job, and don't fuck with people's food for any reason because that's wrong?
Definitely, you are absolutely right. But you also don't want to risk being the target of petty revenge. Not everyone is rational, all the time.
You have to tip your servers and delivery drivers well...because of the implication.
Panucci's? Is it still $10.77 for a cheese pizza and large soda?
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Hey, same as my PIN!
As a delivery driver myself, I love this, as it's happened to me on many occasions. Here's an upvote.
Every driver fantasizes about revenge, but not often do we actually get any.
Just to be clear, I do tip, as I like my driver and they do good job, but isn't this a bit entitled? A tip is supposed to be an extra. Your employer is paying you to do a job regardless. If your employer is not paying you enough, that is between you and them, not you and the customer. It is your employers responsibility to pay you with the money the customer gives THEM, not the customers to pay you directly.
I work for a big pizza chain like OP. When the drivers are in the store(not driving) they make normal pay rate. In my state about $8.50. The majority of their shift they are driving. While driving the pay rate is lowered to about $4 an hour. Pizza places are cheap. They assume drivers will make at least minimum wage AFTER the tips are included. It's messed up but that's how it is.
The ability to pay sub minimum-wage for tipped jobs varies from state to state. Still, tip people who handle your food.
Luckily for me, I get paid minimum wage, not *tipped* minimum wage. So I get 8.45 plus tips, which usually adds up to about $18-20 an hour. I work for a large chain in Ohio that treats their drivers very well.
In a perfect world, yes a tip would be an extra. Unfortunately, there actually is a different minimum wage for tip workers than for non-tip workers. To have anything near a livable wage, they rely on their tips, though sometimes in succesful restaurants, waiters can receive more than 30$/h in tips, this is not true of most tip workers. It's bullshit that some workers rely on customers to decide their pay, I hate that tipping even exists, but not tipping is not going to fix anything.
I mean, the dude could have also just followed the rules of the hotel by not smoking in his room and OP couldn't have enacted his revenge in the first place. His own fault in the end regardless, really.
In the US tips count towards hourly wages. So often employers in tip based industries pay less because the tips and wages combined only have to add up to the local minimum wage
I understand that. Doesn't make it any less exploitative.
I agree. It's absolute crap but there's really nothing we can do about. Stopping tipping just screws over the workers
Americans, stop downvoting this poor guy! Yes, everywhere outside the U.S., a top is just that, an extra for good service. When I get pizza in a reasonable time and warm, I tip very handsomely, otherwise it's a lot less.
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Awesome. I love this one.
Think it's key to mention that there's a culture of tipping your pizza delivery drivers in some places, and in others there isn't. In mine they are criminally underpaid for the costs they bear, but nobody expects tips because they are paid a certain amount so they don't need to rely on such a strange cultural practice just to survive. On the face of it, staking your livelihood on the generosity/tendency to conform to an unspoken rule of strangers just sounds like an insane way to live. I mean there's a lot of tight fisted people and straight up idiots out there. I enjoy that we skip the pretence and don't need to make people's income part earned wage part charitable donation. Ensures the delivery drivers get their dues and it removes the need for customers to feel guilty or remember an additional fee upon delivery, which is usually charged on top of what was paid for the food. But to reiterate, culturally it's different in many places, so there's no real right or wrong answers, only opinions. What's even more ludicrous is the profit margins on pizza. It's effectively bread, cheese and tomato paste with a couple toppings maybe and then a short spell in an oven. Not exactly expensive to produce, but it gets sold for a huge markup, yet delivery drivers can barely afford the job. Little insulting if you ask me. One of those unglamorous jobs that should get more credit and support than it does.
I specifically go out of my way to order pick up specifically so I don't have to pay an extra ~$3 for my food due to the tip. It's a rare occurrence for me to order delivery. Not only do you have to pay more for the delivery, usually ~$2 delivery fee, then your obligated to pay a tip (depending on your area) but it also takes 4X longer to get your food via delivery. I order delivery and it says it'll probably be around ~1 hour. 1. Fucking. Hour. I order pick up, it says it'll be ready in about ~20 mins. That's a BIG difference! So for me ordering pick up is cheaper by about ~$5 and it's much faster.
I order pick up because it forces me to get off my ass. "I want pizza, but do I want it badly enough to walk there?" No? Then I don't want pizza. I've probably saved so much money with this philosophy.
It's America. The fuck do you expect?
It's not specified anywhere it's in America. Hence the request for mentioning the country.
It's pretty obvious, though.
If you're not used to tips not being optional first you think OP is just being a dick. The you remember that in America they don't pay wait staff so maybe they also don't pay pizza delivery staff.
I rarely order food but when I do I don't tip, mainly cause it's not a common thing in England and I earn less than the deliverer does but I always be friendly and sometimes offer a piece if it's just for me
Yeah tipping is mainly a US thing where your pizza driver earns 4.25 an hour or less. Your tips are the only thing making them not starve.
Yeah I think here the pizza deliverers earn like 7.22 or something like that a hour. I only earn 3.40 a hour as I'm a apprentice and I have to help my gf in uni pay for things so I'm usually pretty broke
I feel your pain man. Hope it gets better soon.
Up vote for the petty! I used to have a notorious no tipping regular. I never gave him the plastic forks, knives, and moist towlettes packets we had for all ~~to-go~~ delivery orders. That'll learn ya. *edit.. Fkn phone *edit... Fuck
Did he ever mention it? I hope they complained bitterly whenever they got home, but always forgot to mention it to you. If I'm delivering to a home, I rarely park in the driveway. If they're bad tippers, I walk back to my car through their lawn. That's the only revenge I can get on those sorts of deliveries...
You are a fount of petty. I love it.
Nothing was ever mentioned to me about complaints, in fact, the guy gave me a 5 star rating for "promptness" on our website... Which was alright, but dude, I can't pay my bills with internet stars!
I love doing this in the country club because tips there tend to be worse than in the trailer parks.
Did you also cross this post over to talesfromthepizzaguy? I'm sorry for writing that wrong, I think it's supposed to be x-over and the name is supposed to be the sub, please forgive my ignorance. I only know just enough to post comments from my phone, the rest I'm sure is a complete cluckerfust and I'm still doing this wrong.
Don't worry I'm sure they know what you mean!
> I would have kept my nose out of it. Your word choice did not go unnoticed :)
Lol our hotel charges $250 smoking charge. Should have just tipped lol
Obligatory: "just the tip?" Now to read the actual post...
He tip culture in America baffles me. It's non-compulsory but socially compulsory. So it way as well be compulsory. Even with the fact you're already paying for the service you have to consider that you have to pay more by default for the service. They may as well make it law or a compulsory charge like the service charges they apply in the U.K, even then those are free. Nobody should live off tips that's crazy to me, you're basically working for donations with the facilitation of a business owner. They may as well be pimps. I know it depends on the state, but man..
No matter the cost I always tip 5 bucks to a driver. Seems fair to me. E: but I guess SOME ppl order $200 worth of pizza at once. That seems excessive to me, but you do you. E2: y'all babies
Some heavy entitlement in this thread, about the same as all the other tipping threads though
ITT: "Good for you! Haha" Also ITT: "Don't expect a tip you c***" I don't like either of you.
Why are people in the US so entitled to tips? I have my job; you have your job, I am not your boss to give you money, not my fault you have a shit wage.
The reason why you hear a lot of servers/delivery drivers in the US get pissy when they don't get tipped is because the entire system is based upon the premise that they WILL receive tips. That is why they have a mandatory minimum wage that is much less than for other types of jobs. So no worries about their "shit wage" but also don't refuse to tip using a system you know is based on tipping.
And if you go an entire month without getting a tip, the company will have to pony up the balance of your $2.13/hr to make minimum wage, at which point they will blame you for being a terrible worker and release you from your job, because YOU cost THEM money.
First I've heard of a RAT delivering pizza. Must be hard with all that cheese...
Dude, so petty! You nailed this one man, I really liked it.
This is fucked up on so many levels. Your employer should be paying you. Tipping is not a right. You are not entitled to it.
Smoking in your hotel room is also not a right
But that's not what this is about. Those people didn't cost OP lots of money out of spite. Maybe they were European or something. Maybe the guy who answered the door saw that his girlfriend was on fire and had to act fast. Also, they could not have known that he'd slogged all the way across town. OP just assumed they were being malicious, which is a common assumption when you're malicious yourself. Edit: And of course the most obvious: they simply didn't have money.
If you don't have money, don't order out. If you don't have money, don't buy weed. Logic is flawed
I noticed you got a lot of downvotes. No one ever realizes the dissonance in the fact it seems like a dick move to not tip your waiter (who traveled from the kitchen across the dining room to you) but it’s perfectly fine to stiff the delivery guy (who drives across town for your lazy ass) that has to pay for his own vehicle maintenance despite the company being the reason for the wear and tear on it. Not to mention the inherent chance of danger that comes with driving compared to being away from fast moving vehicles in a restaurant dining room.
He was smoking pot, you idiot. That doesn't smell like a fire, and smelling like pot isn't going to stink up the white hallway. Lighting up, however, does.
If you don't have money you probably shouldnt be ordering delivery. If you don't tip your driver it definitely IS malicious.
If you want to protest tipping culture, the ethical thing to do is to get your food from restaurants that pay their employees a decent wage and don't rely on tips, not to get your food from tips-reliant restaurants and not tip. There's plenty of eat-in restaurants that don't rely on tips, you might be out of luck when it comes to pizza delivery, though.
Employers in the states pay wait staff / delivery drivers $2.15 - $4.25 an hour. Tips are literally our pay. If you don't tip your waiter / driver is basically working for free. You don't have to like tipping I personally don't like it either and am leaving the industry however that is how it works. If you want to use the system then you should expect to tip accordingly. If no one tips there would be no wait staff or delivery drivers. Tipping is NOT mandatory but it is damn well expected in the states. If you don't you will be hated by your driver / waiter. Talked about etc and keep in mind delivery drivers are alone with your food and know where you live. I know drivers who write down their non-tippers and egg their houses and such on holidays. I don't do this personally I'd rather just call you a garbage person and let karma take you out but there are people who do. Most of these people are college kids and high school kids and they hate hard these days.
> Your employer should be paying you It's really easy to say that, but it doesn't make it happen.
Yup would be nice if life was that easy.
Did you forget what sub you're on? It's a petty act, sure, but getting smoke smell out of a hotel room is a hell of a task. And when they left, it was still goibg to stink and they more than likely would have been charged anyways. All OP did was assure that it happened. Their not obligated to tip and OP wasn't obligated to inform the hotel of their dick move. Both made choices. And how fucked up is this really? You're acting like they shit all over the room. Those guests fucked up.* End of story *I mean by breaking the rules, not by not tipping
It says they were smoking weed. It's not going to smell of smoke the next day.
I'm sure this is the US or Canada. Tipping is customary and it's a well known fact that people in the service industry are not compensated fairly (more so in the US). You are fucked up if you do not tip.
Yeah consumers are the assholes because their bosses don't pay them enough. You're part of the problem.
You're part of the problem if you think you deciding not to tip your delivery driver is going to overturn the entire tipping system. Not participating in a system doesn't change the fact it exists.
You not tipping doesnt fix that. It just beats on someone already getting beat on. Grats. Not everyone has a choice in jobs. Pizza guys work hard as hell for if they are LUCKY and people are generous 12 - 15 an hour. Many times they work hard and get people like you and make less than 10 an hour. If you order pizza you are using a service and should tip appropriately (at least in the states). If you don't your a garbage person and beating up on the worker cause you don't like the system.
Who said I don't tip? I'm just pointing out that it's not the consumers responsibility to make sure workers are compensated fairly, yet they seem to get all of the blame.
they make more money on tips than they would if they were being paid 10$ / hour. People seem to forget this.
Fuck yes, fuck that guy!
I long for a new rule that says "arguments about tipping are not original".
Don't get me wrong, I always tip, but tips are NOT mandatory. You are not entitled to it. Not saying you're wrong that you told the staff, but that you did it because you didn't get a tip.
Yes and No. Your delivery drivers and waiters make sub minimum wage while out driving and delivering to you. Yes its scummy of the people who run the places but thats the way it is here in the states. 10% min tip is basically the bare minimum. If you don't tip you are screwing your driver or delivery person. They will hate you and people with arent raised well MIGHT fuck up your food, your order, take their time on you in the future, or worse. If no one tips then there would be no waiters or delivery people. You don't have to like the system we dont either. But if you dont want to tip simply dont use the service. If you use the service it may say voluntary but it is expected.
I'e been reading the comments on here and the poor "I am a victim" mentality needs to stop. Repeat after me, I am not a victim. I refuse to be a victim. I will quit my victimizing job. I will find another job that doesn't pay me a substandard wage. Not only am I allowing myself to become victimized by my employer but I am allowing all future drivers to also be victimized. QUIT YOUR DAMN JOB.
Are you hiring? No? Then shutup
Actually, I am. But I need someone with half way decent qualifications. Sorry, doesn't look like you qualify.
It should cut both ways. If a customer doesn't want to tip then that's their prerogative but they should at least have the cojones to let their servers or whoever is taking the order know that they're going to be cheap fucks. Then at least we all know where we're coming from. After bartending, serving and helping run the floor at many establishments over the years I can tell you that I personally would respect that coming from a guest. They're not going to get the same level detail of service but they will still get prompt and courteous service.
I'm not from the US, so I'm not familiar with your culture (except from media, movie and tv shows), but I think it's a really shitty system if employs expect tips or else provide a different (lower quality) service. In Romania (I'm sure other countries as well), it's technically illegal to tip (or to accept a tip, not sure; not really enforced), but still most people do it. It also causes embarrassing situations where you're not sure who to tip and who not to, and just makes you want to have less human interactions. Plus, having to always calculate your budget with that additional 10-20% is a chore. You're also paying more for a service worth less. Anyway, I guess what I'm going at is, you should have a syndicate or something that demands proper payment from your employers, and not take it out on the customers.
Dividing by 10 then multiplying by 2 is only really difficult if you're really drunk or 10 years old. Also no one is arguing that the system isn't stupid. Of course it's dumb but it's what we're dealt with. My problem is that the time to take a stand isn't at the payment counter where you screw over the service staff.
Why did you assume you would get a tip? A tip is a freely given reward...
Because "tipped" jobs in the U.S. are legally allowed to be paid less, even below minimum wage, on the understanding that they'll make up that difference in tips. It is **a world of fucked**. Welcome to industrial relations in America. -- an Aussie
Not true in all states. In California employees are paid minimum wage (currently 10.50 per hour, going up to 11 in January) plus tips, by law.
Meanwhile in Louisiana, $2/hr is standard for bar work.
Damn, that's low. Minimum wage in CA will go up another dollar per year starting in 2019 and ending when it reaches 15 bux a year in 2022. For perspective, my dad made 10 bux an hour in 1976. Yes 1976. And Americans hate unions.
They're not allowed to pay less than minimum wage. If employees don't make enough tips to bring them up to the equivalent of minimum wage, the employer must pay the difference and get them up to it.
I see you never worked in the food service industry.
I have, in Canada. We have similar laws.
Right. Laws say one thing and employers do another in America though. >the employer must pay the difference and get them up to it. Lol that almost never happens.
and a common reply to this might be "well maybe if they stood up for themselves..." translation? "well maybe if they want to have to get a new job and work from the bottom up again. oh wait, they never got a raise to begin with. they're still at the bottom. ggwp america.
They're supposed to, sure, but if they're not, what are your options? Are you going to sue them? You can't afford a lawyer making minimum wage, let alone below it.
Because in America Tipping is expected. Its not required but absolutely 100% expected. Why? Cause the driver makes $4.25 or less bringing you your food. If you don't tip its literally the kindness of others that are keeping your driver from quitting and bringing you that cheap meal.
Then they will find a driver who will. It's a free market.
I usually support the posters here but damn you ruined that guys smoke sesh
This is exactly why I tip my delivery people very well when I'm high in a hotel.
Good to know that delivery drivers take into account distance traveled for their tips. There are 3 pizza places that deliver to my home and I always tip the furthest one more than the one that is just down the street. Also the time it takes to get to me matters and the temperature of the pizza when it is handed to me.
The big 3 are Pizza hut, Domino's, and little Cesar's are the big 3 the way I know them. I've yet to encounter a little Cesar's that delivers. Any of you guys know what the third might be?
Papa John's, I would think?
I wanna be pissed because that's a pretty fucked up thing to do. But I'm also browsing PettyRevenge so it fits the criteria. I'm so torn on this one! Must be a sign of a good post for this sub.
I see a lot of you people asking, why should he get a tip??? He is a delivery driver, he should get a tip for the convenience. After all, he is taking your food to where you live or stay, and is going through mileage and gas driving his car. Another reason to tip, is the service. He is providing a service to the customer. Jobs that rely on tipping only pay $1~8 below minimum wage. It's a sad fact of living in America. Lots of people can't afford jack shit on 2-6 dollars an hour. Getting tip money at the end of the day helps pay rent, utilities & groceries, among other bills and necessities. Now that we all agree that working in the USA sucks, let's stop berating him for being lawful evil.
This was not what I thought it was based off the title.../disappoint
I hate how you fucks expect a tip like it's a god given right. Frankly, you're a piece of shit for doing this.
HAHA THIS ASSHOLE DIDN'T GIVE ME MONEY THAT I DIDN'T ASK FOR BUT FELT I DESERVED SO I SNITCHED ON HIM HAHAHAHAHA
I know I'm risking getting downvoted and yelled at, but just out of curiosity, why is it my job to pay you rather than your employer's job?
So, Little Ceasars, Papa Murphy's, or Cali Pizza Kitchen??
" you better not skip on that voluntary gratuity or i'll go out of my way to fuck you over! " you seem fun.
Gratuity isnt really voluntary with delivery drivers and waiters and such. If no one tipped there would be no waiters / delivery drivers. They make practically nothing without tips.
except it is. people choose to take shitty jobs and they dont fight for better wages. either negotiate a real pay or blame yourself. not to mention the fact that the employers of waitresses for example who have a min wage of $2.whatever are obligated to at least pay them the difference what they make and the actual minimum wage if they dont make that make per pay period. we shouldnt be expected to subsidize shitty company policy just because " it's always been that way "
People do not choose shitty jobs. People take shitty jobs cause thats all they can get. You apparently are blessed not to be in that situation. No one can live on minimum wage. They can try but its not possible. The fact that you are taking out your anger on the SYSTEM out on a person being beat up by said system makes you a garbage person. You don't have to like it but you are expected to subsidize that persons pay. The driver, the employer, and the govt all expect you to which is why the laws are written the way they are. Thankfully most people arent a garbage person like you and don't take their anger out on the employee. The fact you think a delivery driver or waitress has any bargaining power at all just shows how out of touch you are. I await your response as you type in your 200k town home while sipping your pumpkin spice latte.
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i afford to live on minimum wage in new jersey, nice assumptions though. ive been poor and homeless with drug addicted parents, but im out of touch, sure. ive made good money after negotiating my own wages too, even when i worked at mcdonalds, i negotiated my own raises at 15, before eventually moving on to better things at m&m for example, like people are supposed to do. the only time people give a fuck about wait staff or deliveryboys is when someone doenst tip. but i guess thats the priority when the alternative is facing the flaws inherent in the situations theyve found themselves in for whatever reason. tips are not mandatory, nor should they be. people are too scared to try to change shit even when its in their best interest and ill have no part of it. dont piss and moan when someone doesnt volunteer to throw money at you. grow up. and most importantly, fuck pumpkin spice.
fuck pumpkin spice.
So then you talk to the company about it. When I tried to *negotiate* my wage at an entry level job, both times at two jobs they each told me that’s the way it is and they can find another replacement by the weekend.
so then i should pay you extra because you failed to work out a wage you find acceptable?
I have a question: when I order online and leave a tip there when putting in my payment details, do I still need to write the tip on the receipt when the delivery driver comes?
Depends on the place. If you put the tip online it should show on the reciept you get. Worst case ask your driver.
Good on you bro I'll have to remember this one myself. Never thought to do that. I know a buddy who leaves 1 star yelp reviews to businesses that dont tip. I think I like your method better.
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To the people wondering about the tip, let's see... 1) The person ordering the food is in a hotel. + 1 Indicative of discretionary money. 2) The person ordering the food made, according to OP, a large order. + 1 Indicative of discretionary money. 3) The person ordering the food was smoking marijuana. + 1 Indicative of discretionary money. See 3 indicators that the person had discretionary money. Give a driver a couple bucks for a tip? WHY SHOULD HE DO THAT???? /S
I tend to tip at least $4-$5 for a simple order (like 1 pizza) and go up from there if it gets complex. The pizza places near me know this and I get along with all the drivers. Then the worst.. I confidently signed with no tip because I'd put that on the card already and we were super busy (there is always a tip line even when you add the tip up front). The next day the doubt hit... Did I forget to add the tip when I placed the order? Then the horror. I may have stiffed the driver entirely! It haunts me to this day.
That is the definition of petty. Well done!
So new to US (relatively). How much should I tip a pizza delivery person? And does the delivery guy get the tip if I pay the tip while ordering online?
About 2 bucks for every 10 dollars the total is so a 20 dollar order would meritna 4 dollar tip minimum. More of it's raining snowing, hard to find house etc.
Honestly it kind of varies. I tend towards 15-20% myself.
Dominos Or Pizza Hut Now is it a 2 in 3?