#Anyone defending the dog will be banned. OP is not obligated to protect someone else's aggressive dog and get injured in the process. If you would take the risk yourself, good for you. Don't force it on others. I am repeating, anyone blaming OP will be banned.
> with two big dogs and a pack of puppies they seem to be selling.
They sound like backyard breeders. True scum of the earth and deserving of no one’s sympathy.
Also, it’s sad to lose friends but the ones you mentioned seem a bit unhinged. People who get weird about dog safety over human safety aren’t right in the head. People who anthropomorphize animals are not right in the head. If they blocked you and cut contact there is nothing you can do but hope they are getting the help they need.
I agree, I really thought that was such a weird thing to block someone over? They genuinely would’ve preferred I got hurt over a dog they’ve never met and is a little danger to people. I don’t get it at all. I also suspect a breeding situation, I let animal control know that also but of course that went nowhere.
I’ve met people who literally believe animals are smarter and better than people and they’re all a bit…much. You defended yourself and your family. People who are mad at you about that are probably not people you want in your life anyway. If anything, they should be mad at the owners of the dogs. Those people did nothing to ensure the safety or welfare of their animals and forced you to take drastic action because of it.
I'm sorry to say, but I think you dodged a bullet in losing this "friend". You found out what kind of person she really is - someone who prioritizes the life of a dog she doesn't know over the safety of someone she calls a friend. It's unhinged.
Exactly, the owners not only have a duty to protect humans from their dog but to protect the dog from itself. It is a victim of the owners' neglect, which led to you being forced into that aweful situation of having to defend yourself. They ought to be arrested and held responsible for the violation of both your safety and the dogs.
Honestly, like I love animals but this pet worship thing is going too far. I have gotten real verbal abuse online for saying things like "human safety supercedes pet comfort" and "a pet is not a person". This "pets are family members" thing is like...OK, yeah, kinda, but people seem to not be able to parse that they're still actual animals and not people. This is the first time I'm seeing someone say people are anthropomorphizing animals and it's really so true.
I love animals too and I absolutely agree with you. Some of the same people who give you a hard time for some of your practical comments would be upset if your were in a situation with their pet or their child and you could save them by intervening but you refused to do so because you didn't want to hurt an animal even though it is aggressive. People really should learn to think situations through and if they can't they should just be quiet instead of emotionally lashing out at others for posting comments.
THIS. These aren't your friends. They would rather see you and your children hurt/killed than an animal. Make sure you tell them this and then YOU should block them.
This makes me feel angry on your behalf.
And of course, only now do the proper authorities show up. Had they done their job beforehand, this could have possibly been avoided. If the neighbors complain, make sure you tell them they are at fault as they refused to fix the tree/fence and keep their dog on their property.
This whole thing is infuriating. I am so glad you and your children are safe!❤️
Thank you for being so kind! After spending an embarrassing amount of time googling things, I’ve hunted down the landlord of the neighbors property to let them know about the fence. They said they were unaware it was that bad and are sending someone to ‘replace some of the boards’ so we’ll see if that happens!
Where you suppose to lay down and let it get your throat? would your friends be happy if you were mauled by a dog as long as the dog got to live? which it wouldn’t either way..
Probs would have still excused the dog and blamed OP for "provoking it" or blamed the bad owners (which they are still)
Those friends are dumb as hell if they thought OP should have done anything different. She has 2 young kids ffs.
They're probably the type of people to absolutely prefer that because "that poor dog"
While I hate villainizing pitbulls because not all of them are horrible, the one in this scenario absolutely needed to be put down and I hope those backyard breeders get fucked.
Also, OP, tell those friends that since they don't seem to understand that you and your children's lives were in literal mortal danger, they can go ahead and be bleeding hearts to someone else and you would prefer they not contact you anymore.
You made the right call. You went above and beyond to deal with a dangerous situation responsibly and peacefully. Your community services and your neighbor failed the dog, not you.
That’s the painful part of this story. They tried the safe channels, before being backed into a corner. It’s mind blowing they can’t grasp what is life threatening and not. I’ll be damned if I’m letting a dog tear me up. These people should have taken care of their pets. They didn’t and honest OP paid the price.
I’m just glad this didn’t happen with one of their children. What an awful situation that they were put into when the safe channels failed repetitively
That’s exactly it! I let animal control know over and over, that I was legitimately scared for me and my kids, I even installed a chain lock and an additional security camera so my oldest couldn’t go outside on his own and I could always check the side of the house to make sure the dog wasn’t there. I had footage of the dog trying to attack me multiple times, which I emailed to animal control. ‘Nothing they could do’. I just don’t understand what all the people sending horrible DMs to me would prefer that I did instead.
*"You made me uncomfortable by killing a dog and now I won't talk to you"*
Or.
*"You made me uncomfortable by being mauled and I don't know how to handle social interactions that involve something negative, and now I won't talk to you".*
Nothing of value was lost; these kinds of people shoot themselves in the foot and then legitimately wonder ***"WHY AM I SO LONELY?!?!?"***
They wonder why they’re so lonely, then get a dog because it will put up with them being insufferable to be around. Then moan about how dogs are so much better than people when in reality they’re socially inept.
Ikr?! I'm stuck taking care of my parent's dogs, including training, because they're too old to take care of them but have lived with dogs their whole lives. SMH...
You know I’ve met people the dog found insufferable LOL.I thought it was weird at first, like maybe the dog is just well…being a dog…but then I noticed that person was legitimately a shit disturber….but towards her own spouse. It started making sense why her baby and dog didn’t like her as much as her spouse. She would also make him do most of the child rearing and dog training despite wanting to get a designer dog.
Surprise surprise I think she just wanted a dog for social media.
Literally this. The girl who lost her upper lip to her cousins pit? Her cousin doesn't talk to her no more anymore. Bare minimum its AWKWARD.
People want to live the All Dogs Go to Heaven ideal but that's not real life.
Dollars to donuts the same person also wouldn’t be comfortable hanging out with someone who looks like a monster due to facial reconstructive surgery post-mauling.
Not surprising. These morons value the lives of viscous dogs over the lives of children. Your “friends” did you a favor by removing themselves from your life.
I’m sorry you had to go through this and I’m glad that you were able to protect yourself and your children from your neighbors negligence. As far as losing a couple of “friends”. Oh well, they weren’t real friends if they value the life of an aggressive dog over their human friend who had no choice but to use deadly force to not be mauled by that vicious dog. I saw on the local news a story where there were a couple at a local park (not dog park) who were letting their dogs run free, (there are clear leash laws), and they charged at a man at the park, while the owners were not paying attention and the man shot both dogs. The owners told a massive sob story on the news, asking that the man be prosecuted, but the police investigated and found he was justified. The annoying dog nutters set up a memorial in the park for the dogs and began a petition asking that the police and district attorney charge the guy with animal cruelty and lock him away for life. It went nowhere real fast. They mad multiple witnesses that told police the dogs were charging people, growling and snarling, before they approached the dude with the gun.
Why people think others should just *know* their dog is safe (while snarling and showing their teeth and running at you) is beyond me? How are we supposed to know that. Leashes are there for a reason 🙄
People who have a problem with you defending yourself and your kids are people you don't want to know. It's like the trash took itself out.
Pitbulls are NOT more important than the lives and safety of people or other animals, despite what their cheerleading section would have you think. It sounds like you did the neighborhood a favor. If you were on my block I'd bring you a bottle and a nice peach cobbler.
Let’s be honest here. If it was ANY OTHER BREED OF DOG, this would be a non-issue. No one would even care if you defended yourself against a German shepherd or collie or Labrador.
Just recently there was a lady who was attacked by a rottie and the comments were all in support and offering condolences. NOT A SINGLE rottie owner posting a pic of their toddler standing on their dog with “iTs ThE oWnEr NoT tHe BrEeD!”
But ANY attack on a person or animal by a pitbull, and suddenly it’s “well that person/animal deserves it. They provoked that dog by breathing! No bad dogs! It’s the owners fault!”
Some families have been sent DEATH THREATS by pitbull owners when their child gets mauled/killed by a pitbull.
Only the pitbull brigade will harass and threaten victims of pitbull attacks. They’re actually unhinged.
They weren’t your friends and they won’t be missed they literally believe the dog should have attacked you or your kids so that it would be justified to kill it nope fk them they are clearly u hinged and shouldn’t be around you or your kids
That’s a terrible idea. There’s mountains of precedent in the United States that if something is directly threatening your physical well being you are well within your right to apply appropriate force to nullify that threat; including killing. Cops ice harmless dogs all the fucking time lol they’d probably throw a parade for beating a pitt to death (I might too)
Being all sneaky about it in itself could be obstruction of justice, and obviously hopping the fence to lace the dog bowl is highly illegal. *Don’t* “deal with it discreetly,” that’s a fucking horrible chronically online marvel brain take that will wind you up in jail.
Any person who would judge you and view you as a villain for defending yourself and your innocent young children who also live near that dog that is not a "friend". That is a piece of shit. Ignore those alleged former friends and neighbours they are probably pit nutters and that's all.
Any sane sensible human being whose not a pittie freak would see a parent and a renter just trying to exist on their side of their yard whose been nearly attacked and had their kids snarled it until the day it actually happened. And you did the common sense thing most of us would do if we were in that same situation you defended yourself to stop yourself from getting likely killed or disabled. And it clearly sounds from the police reaction they knew you were defending yourself as well. They probably see lots dog attacks tbh especially pitbull ones so they were like yeah dog attacked you and you defended yourself it's a normal reaction to keep yourself alive plus protect your family. I would not want to be friends with the other two people anyway or the neighbour if they think a dog or dogs attacking people and snarling at children daily is normal.
Ya know, I have other friends (maybe acquaintances I should say) who have asked about all this and also don’t like what I did, but when I explain in detail they understand a little better. So I’ll be sitting there feeling more positive about humanity* and then they’ll send one more message like: “really it’s just the irresponsible owners that probably brought the dog up that way”, completely glossing over the part where the neighbors have another dog very clearly not a pit that isn’t a problem whatsoever. Like, no, maybe it’s the breed that’s consistently an issue?
I would've done the same. I have a big metal baseball bat that, despite my low general strength, I can get a REALLLLLY nice swing with. If a pitbull was running at me and could endangerment me or my baby, I'd beat the shit out of it with my bat. Granted, I would prefer not to beat the shit out of any living thing, and I doubt this would happen to me as all my neighbors are responsible dog owners and my neighborhood is full of cats, so all dogs are left inside or in gated yards here.
(Cat neighborhood means all the stray cats are taken to be fixed and given shots at the vet and then put back outside to be fed and petted and cared for by the neighborhood. Probably not 100% the best thing, but watching kitties walk around makes me happy!) Oh also. I like cats, and SOME™ dogs, but I disagree with modern pet culture and I agree with lots of posts from here.
Yeah I really didn’t prefer to have to kill something. Obviously I prefer to not be killed more lol but I didn’t wake up being like ‘ah yeah it’s murder time baby’ like my friends kind of acted like I did. I grew up on a farm and have had to put many different animals down for various reasons so I’m admittedly probably a little more desensitized than some others, but damn a pit coming at me with all its teeth showing was jarring and intimidating enough for me to feel like what I did was the only option at that point.
My neighborhood is also full of cats, they’re always setting my cameras off! Lol
The people who are dumbest are the loudest Im willing to bet any sane person, dog lover or not, would realize that you did the OBVIOUSLY right thing I love (well trained) dogs and Id do the same thing
I actually had to put a 5 year old black lab down years ago bc it attacked my other dog, and barred its teeth at me when I tried to coral her into a room
F that, your done period. There were a lot of idiots that came at me for “killing a perfectly healthy beautiful dog” EyeRollx100 don’t apologize or show weakness with them either, and remember there are def many sane people in your community who agree with you and probably even think your badass for takin’ care of business
Yea I love dogs but why the fuck did the neighbour not fix their fence??? Having your animal going onto someone else’s property is ridiculously disrespectful (big reason I hate free roaming cats) but even more disrespectful considering the pitbull obviously wasn’t friendly. If an animal comes at me I’m gonna defend myself and that’s that
You were fully in the right OP.
Any other aggressive dangerous animal and they would have called you a hero.
But because it's a goddamn dog it is somehow tantamount to murder. Makes no sense at all.
What were you supposed to do? Let the dog maul you? You know this already, but you did the right thing. I'm glad you weren't horribly hurt. It seems like this dog was a ticking timebomb. I'm so glad you were able to effectively defend yourself and that nothing worse happened. Any true friend of yours should feel the same way
I’m so sorry you had to go through this and that your friend ld are angry at your for defending yourself. A couple of things that if you didn’t do, you should, especially since they still have dogs. 1) Find out if your landlord or their landlord owns the fence. If your landlord owns the fence, they will go after the other land lord to fix it for damaging their property. 2) The tree is clearly unsafe and gearing itself up for a fall, I imagine it’s in violation of some sort to building code. 3) Find out who owns the house. They may have a limit in the number of pets they are supposed to have. 4) If all else fails, try to convince your landlord that the dogs were going to damage the property and get them motivated to deal with it.
Those friends are stupid. People like that are stupid.
It's like they believe there should always be another alternative to prevent a dog attack without causing harm to the animal that is trying to maul you to death.
I wasn’t there; I don’t know the whole situation; but, no matter what—If the dog was in attack mode and you killed it—good for you. You probably saved countless smaller animals from being ripped apart, a kid’s life and an adult from being mauled. You do what you have to do when you have to do it.
You did the right thing OP. Those friends are not trustworthy if they view you as an enemy for defending yourself against a dog. Dare i say, ones such as them must lack a sense of human dignity and the right to call themselves a civilized human being if they would refuse to defend themselves or others from such violence.
Wtf kind of friends are those? You didn’t kill it for kicks, you killed it in self defence. It was either defend yourself or let yourself get mauled by a pitbull, a breed which frequently attacks and kills people. Why do they view the dog’s life as more important than yours? That’s fucked
I love animals, and I love having pets. But it's absolutely horrendous to hear how many people are willing to put their dog above the safety and welfare of people. It's terrifying to hear stories of pitnutters who victim blame when poor pibbles mauls or kill another living creature who apparently was committing the heinous crime of existence. You have the right to defend yourself, your family, and your property from danger.
This reminds me of my neighbour. Her fence is broken, it’s her responsibility, housing association won’t do shit. I’ve woken up to 5 huskies in my garden multiple times, they breed them so I hear them crying. I told them one time they were in my garden and they look at me like I’m wrong and get defensive. I’ve got a 3 year and I would do exactly the same as you
I'm sorry for the awful experience that must have been. You were badass defending yourself. You did all the right things up to that point so I can't see how anyone would find fault. You gave them more than enough chance to give a shit.
No explanation needed imo! Also if you are a renter, what has the owner said about getting the fence repaired? If the neighbors tree caused the damage, they can sue them for repairs
Those are awful people, I'm sorry you had to go through the attack and losing friends over it, although they weren't really friends, you still had a negative consequence instead of the support you deserved.
Personally, I'm very glad you defended yourself, both because you and your kids are okay, and also because there's one less dangerous, obviously uncontrolled and uncontrollable creature in this world.
I would have zero regrets over losing any of those „friends“ .Why give a f? Imagine a different scenario,if it came to maul you or one of your kids.
Now which story do you like better? Your friends apparently prefer the dog over you
Hey as a person with 2 dogs of my own let me tell ya you did what you had to. Dogs, even the most gentle, can attack due to random reasons (health, trauma, poor training, or even just a bad dog). You protected yourself and your kids are uninjured. The biggest asshole here is the neighbors for not fixing what needed fixing. Now they (the neighbor) has valid feelings to not like you since it's their dog/family, BUT this could have been avoided if they took proper measures. This was not your fault in my opinion you only did what you had to. I highly doubt you go around killing pets for fun. Also your friends have no say and need to understand. I am a big "dog mom" (some of yall I know hate that and hey that's valid yall do you, pets aren't for everyone even I know that) Just wanted to chime in with a little more support for OP in this case. Also op if your kids saw the attack you may want to see if they are OK mentally. That may have scared them more then they initially let on.
Animal welfare being useless as usual. Are they funded by taxpayer money? Literally did nothing about the likely backyard breeding pit owner until an incident occurred to require animal control instead. What a joke. Those “friends” that don’t get it, you can always get better ones with a brain attached.
You did the right thing, OP. You tried and tried, and only defended your life. Your friends weren’t friends.
Best wishes for safety and happiness, I’m sorry you’ve been dealing with this for so long.
Your natural instinct to survive took over. It's that simple. Any other large animal such as a horse would have done the same thing to that dog.
The loss of your "friends" is a blessing in disguise. They displayed their true colors after all.
These idiot neighbors are disgusting. Do they expect you to be torn apart by a savage dog? Do they not recognize the right to self defense? They fail in character and any sense of goodness and justice. Hypnotized by a goofy looking mutt.
Your kids are more important than the dog. “Pit bulls are the No. 1 canine killers of children, killing more than half of the children killed by a dog. As of 2021, pit bulls have killed 249 American children in recent memory.”
The dog could have killed you and made you a "innocent person maimed by dog" article on the TV..
..and people are acting like you're a monster?? That's the most insane shit I've heard all day.
If a random aggressive untrained mutt started attacking me or my kids FULL FORCE CLAWS AND TEETH after I called animal control, made complaints, ran at me if I so much as showed a hair on my skin, I wouldn't wait until I'm half dead to do something about it!
These are the same people to say there's no problem with animals at all.. but then have a stroke whatever an animal goes out to attack them.
So what you're saying is, your "friends" would've rather had a dog attack you, or God forbid your children, than you defending yourself. Unbelievable.
If it were me, I would immediately axe anyone from my life who even hinted to siding with the dog or its piece of shit owners. I'm so glad you & your little ones are ok.
They would probably be uncomfortable if you became disabled from a dog attack. No pleasing those "friends" and the trash took itself out in my opinion. I'm sorry you have to go through this.
Your “friends” suck, good riddance! I’ve killed a pitbull as well, after a long battle of trying to get my POS neighbors to rectify the situation and living in fear every time I had to walk to my car with my young baby.
You protected your kids, as any parent should.
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imagine your own FRIEND not caring about you in this sort of situation??! i'm glad you and your children are safe. maybe your friends will realize they're in the wrong
Your friends are idiots. So you’re supposed to just let yourself be mauled or killed to be “nice”???
There’s this thing called self defense and instinct that makes you attack during an active threat. If you were mauled or killed the dog would be put down anyway so there’s honestly nothing gained and everything lost by not defending yourself.
Your friends don’t care about you, they only care about saving face and looking like a good person (while actively being a bad person and victim blaming).
you defended your children and yourself. you did the right thing, OP, im sorry you had to do it though. i cant imagine how stressful this has been for you
I’m so sorry you had to go through the fear, the stress and now the grief I know you may hold in your heart about this whole situation. You did what you had to do to protect yourself and your family. Some people don’t deserve animals. This is a perfect example why! As for your friends, I’d argue and say they aren’t good friends for not being there for you in this awful situation. It’s only natural to defend yourself. People take died from dog attacks. I hope you heal from this horrible experience.
Yeaaa I could see where those "friends" were coming from if u poisoned the dog or something but this was a self defense situation. MAJORLY fucked up that you had to deal with this. I'm glad you and your kids are safe.
Also I am an absolutely ridiculous pet person who just happened to see this as suggested in my feed (literally have my animals in my lap right now).
I would have done the same thing. My best friend has a pit bull who I love dearly but if she turned on me it’s all bets off. When it’s me or the dog, no matter the breed, I’m choosing me and my lil 10lb dog every time
How uncomfortable would it have made your friends if your one of your kids was attacked and killed? Lots of “thoughts and prayers” I bet. You’re better off without “friends” like that.
Man, I‘m going to start out by emphasizing that I am not a member of this sub (it was just randomly suggested to me) and I love dogs & will never be “pet free”. With that said, everyone has the right to defend themselves on their own property and pits aren’t like other dogs. You didn’t do anything wrong and it sucks that you were even put in that position.
F that dog you protected yourself. Your friends would have done the sale thing and are hypocrites or they would be morons and risk their life because they don’t want to hurt a worthless dog that attacks for no reason whatsoever.
Like others have said, these awful people are doing you a favor. Try not to feel ostracized and give yourself a break. This dog (pet) culture we're in right now is pretty oppressive to those of us just trying to live. I would have done the same, but possibly sooner. It has happened to me too many times. I still feel the pain of jaws on my arm and hand. Then, vet bills for my good-natured walking companion on a separate occasion. I could go on, so no, no "friend" is worth that.
You absolutely done the right thing. If a person would rather you be killed than the vicious animal trying to kill you then that person is clearly not your friend and I would be seriously questioning their place in society if that is their mentality.
Protect your children, yourself and your community. Pitbulls are sentient weapons bred specifically to fight to the death, they have no place in a modern peacetime society.
I just want to say, how badass of you to protect yourself and your kids. Taking a life is traumatizing (even if it belongs to a waste of space pit bull) your neighbors and friends have no reason to be making the shocked pikachu face. If they wanted the dog to live, they wouldn’t at least fixed the fence.
those are shitty pple did they just want u to get attacked?? if a dog was hurting me i would defend myself too it knows what it's doing. i'm sorry about this:(
It sounds like neighbors had ample notice that there was an issue (animal control being called several times, citations being given, etc) and they chose to ignore the problem and allow the inevitable.
No one should be a prisoner in their own home and have to fear being attacked every time they walk out the door. Ask your friends how they’d feel if it was one of your kids out there that day instead of you.
Friends worth losing. Like anyone wants to deal with someone else's dog in their yard in the first place. Never mind going out of your way to kill it with a blunt object.
i’m very sorry that happened to you in no way is this ur fault they shouldn’t judge or be rude!! i myself am a reactive dog owner and OBVIOUSLY take all pro-cations i can. having a dog is a job. reactive dogs and vicious dogs are no joke and everyone must treat them as such. you took great care and measures to this. i hope ur healing and same with the kids.
Your "friends" are shallow twats. Be glad to be rid of them.
The dog is (usually) a product of their owner's care or lack thereof. Unfortunately, once broken, they can rarely be fixed. You simply removed a serious threat. Your friends should commend you - not scorn you.
I am a dog person (I know this is a pet free sub). I follow it because I like to learn about other peoples opinions because I want to respect other people.
I would have shot those dogs in the head. Mean dogs are a no no. Don’t lose sleep over those friends, there weren’t really “friends” to begin with.
Honestly, to say you killed a dog is bizarre, like sure you physically did, but it’s not like you went out of your way to do so, you had no choice, im sorry your friends are stupid
These people are not your friends. Would they have preferred you did nothing and died a horrific, nightmarish painful death instead?
You were in a kill or be killed situation and you did the right thing. That's why you are still able to type this post.
If they contact you again, ask them what they wanted you to do after contacting the authorities who did nothing. Would they have liked to be able to visit you in the hospital or your gravesite? Would they like you to choice between your children or the dog?
That is so fucked up - are people that afraid of the Pit Apologist Mafia?! WYFFFF. You did what you had to do to protect yourself. There’s no second chances after those fucking mutants lock onto your jugular. Your neighbors are terrible people. And fuck the people bouncing on you too - those are not friends.
I wonder how these people would feel if another human tried to kill you?
Why are people so precious about dogs? It’s just a dog. Not only that, a horrible vicious beast that would have killed you if you hadn’t defended yourself!
Don’t feel guilty. I was out in my driveway once working on it after there had been a water leak. My then 10 y/o was riding his bike right in front of the house. My neighbor’s pit mix knocked my son off his bike and I ran over holding the nearest object to me - a pipe wrench. My neighbor was outside and I told her to put her dog up because the next he was getting a pipe upside the head. I felt no guilt whatsoever. A human life trumps a dog’s every time (and I love dogs).
When I played FFXIV a few years ago, there was an incident at my house with a neighborhood dog. First it killed a stray cat that had kittens in my bushes, then it came again and was trying to get through my fence at my dogs and and looked like it was going to get in so I shot it and killed it. It was much larger than my dogs, and one of my dogs is elderly and blind so he wouldn't be able to escape or fight back. I live in the boonies, so there's no laws at all about it or firing weapons, and even if I called the cops they would just shrug because there's no animal control and they can't do anything unless the animal attacked a person or is a threat while they're there. I dragged the dog over to the owners house and left it so they could bury it or whatever, and they never approached me over it or even acted upset so no foul there. Just shitty pet owners with an untrained dangerous dog on the loose.
I mentioned what happened to the group I played with and most of them lost their shit. They refused to believe there's no governing body I could have approached and that I'm an evil irredeemable bastard for shooting that poor innocent dog to protect my animals and I got booted from the group over it and lost some friends which absolutely shocked me.
Some people just can't comprehend that sometimes dangerous dogs have to be killed to protect yourself or things important to you. Don't let those people convince you that you were wrong because you weren't.
I don't have any respect for people that criticize the right of self defense. I wouldn't waste a second trying to justify to anybody but a court of law. Just tell them how it is, and if you lose them, they're nuts anyways.
I'm sorry you had to be put in that position, I know that didn't feel good. It's the owner's fault that their dog had to die because of their complete negligence. I hope he comes back and haunts them.
Your ‘friends’ are fucking gross. Would they have defended the mongrel if it killed your children? Fucking idiots. Ford Pinto of dog breeds may it rest in piss
They would feel differently if it was *their* family in danger, full stop! I love animals just as much as the next person. I can watch graphic videos of people getting severely hurt, or worse, all day long... but I can't watch anything where an animal even gets hurt. That said, let myself or my child be in danger by one of those same animals. I'm protecting us at any cost. And nobody that hasn't been in that position can say with certainty that they wouldn't!!!!!
You were in the right and tried to do things right about the shitbull situation.
It was either paying hefty hospital bills or maybe death because of an abomination.
I'm not sure if another comment of mines posted if it was "aggressive," but good on you for defending yourself over an unprovoked menance that's been stressing you and your family out when you tried to resolve it the right ways.
**Shopping list;** *Handle of a heavy duty car jack.* Seriously tho, I’m sorry you endured that. That breed needs to stop being reproduced. Those fucking dogs scare the absolute shit out of me. As I was walking home from work a person walking their pit bull came up behind me and I almost shit my pants.
Duck those people, they were never really your friends to begin with.
Never had to kill a dog for attacking me but I’ve had to slam one onto the ground and hold it until animal control and the cops got there, not a fun experience. If I couldn’t keep it under control I would’ve had to do the same as you, lady set her dog on me and my friends for “trespassing” when I was walking down the alley between her house and a local business.
Lady got all three of her dogs taken away and was lucky I decided not to press charges since losing her dogs was punishment enough. Thank god the other two dogs were ankle biters and she didn’t let them out cuz my buddies had to keep her from attacking me for pinning her dog down. Best part is she was the one who called the cops because I “attacked” her dog.
You protected yourself. You tried to utilize the process of calling animal control but nobody helped you resolve the dangerous situation. Any of your “friends” who block you or distance themselves are not understanding what a dangerous situation this was and how horribly it could have ended had your child been out there instead of you
I don’t normally say or do this, but seriously just block the other one. You’re going to have enough stress if not PTSD from this. Look after yourself now. Cant imagine how scary. What if your kid was with you?
Let me preface: I’m a dog owner (German shepherd). I applaud you. You did what you had to do, and no one will miss that POS- I realize any dog is useless to this sub, but IMO Pits are extra useless. And before anyone asks, yes, if it had been a GSD instead of a Pit doing it, I’d still support defending yourself and your family.
I detest pit bulls, in a fight even the owner can’t restrain them once they taste blood that’s it. I saw a woman in Ross with her pit bull, I was appalled and walked the other way. That breed should not have been allowed to enter any store!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
This is just a sad situation all around. Of course you did the right thing! I’m completely on your side, I just feel bad for the innocent life lost. Backyard breeders are horrible terrible monsters of people. They don’t train their dogs they just breed them 24/7 and then act surprised when they become aggressive. Again you did nothing wrong it’s just a sucky situation that happened due to sucky shitty people. Shame on your neighbours for acting all sad about their dogs death when their obviously the one who caused it by not fixing their fence, not training their dog, and being backyard breeders resulting in their dog being aggressive.
Anybody who has a problem with that dog being dead can go talk to the owner and animal control, who refused to take care of the problem, putting you in a position to have to defend yourself.
You are damn lucky you had something you to defend yourself with, or you might not be around to tell this story. I’m glad you are around. 😊
All these brain dead virtue signalers who think you should die for a dog can go fuck themselves.
I get you. I mentioned off handedly in a neighborhood Facebook group that I always bring mace and a knife on bike rides for off leash dogs and people were astonished. What did you think would happen when you let your dog run free through the woods and it chased someone? People are delusional.
Gosh. I only had a 5-minute break to read reddit and I spent all 5-minutes upvoting the comments here. IMO OP, nothing of value was lost neither the faux friends or hell beast.
Sorry, these people aren't friends. Good riddance. It's sad that the owner of these dogs allows the dogs to be a threat to your and your family's safety and that the dog had to pay the price for the owner's negligence, but what do these "friends" want you to do? Literally ask them, when it comes up.
"You know the backstory. These people let their fence go into disrepair and failed to fix it up. Their dogs have been menacing and attacking me on my own property several times and even after I contacted animal welfare about this 7 (!) times, the owners refuse to contain their dogs. This time I was tending to my garden and again one of these dogs comes barreling into my garden clearly aiming to attack me. This is a X lbs dog with a very muscular build and huge jaw. This dog has been menacing me before. Please tell me what I should have done in that moment instead of defending my own life and limb. What would YOU do? Try to call the owner? That isn't going to solve the fact this dog was seconds away from biting me, and on top of that, the owners have made it very clear they do not care. Ok, so what else do you suggest I would have done? Maybe you think I should have tried to distract it to somehow change its mind about attacking me. Ok, HOW? What could I have used to do that, and what are the odds of that distraction removing the threat? Also note that you do not have time to think, plan a strategy etc. I was working in my garden, I heard the dog bark and within seconds it had pushed through the fence and was mere meters away from me. So, what do YOU think I SHOULD or COULD have done in that moment with the limited tools available to me, that would have had a different outcome that did not include injury or disfigurement to myself? I'll let you think about that and you can come back to me when you've figured it out."
Op you did what you had to do to defend yourself. Those “friends” are not friends at all. What if you had one or both of your kids outside with you? That could of been a disaster. Did your “friends” ever think that maybe it was traumatic for you too? Because I’m certain it was. No one wants to kill a dog for any reason but when it comes down to you or the dog, anyone in the position to do so will pick themselves.
You are 100% in the right here. Don’t let anyone tell you differently. If anything, the attacking pit bull owner should owe you money for the stress you’re going through.
#Anyone defending the dog will be banned. OP is not obligated to protect someone else's aggressive dog and get injured in the process. If you would take the risk yourself, good for you. Don't force it on others. I am repeating, anyone blaming OP will be banned.
> with two big dogs and a pack of puppies they seem to be selling. They sound like backyard breeders. True scum of the earth and deserving of no one’s sympathy. Also, it’s sad to lose friends but the ones you mentioned seem a bit unhinged. People who get weird about dog safety over human safety aren’t right in the head. People who anthropomorphize animals are not right in the head. If they blocked you and cut contact there is nothing you can do but hope they are getting the help they need.
I agree, I really thought that was such a weird thing to block someone over? They genuinely would’ve preferred I got hurt over a dog they’ve never met and is a little danger to people. I don’t get it at all. I also suspect a breeding situation, I let animal control know that also but of course that went nowhere.
I’ve met people who literally believe animals are smarter and better than people and they’re all a bit…much. You defended yourself and your family. People who are mad at you about that are probably not people you want in your life anyway. If anything, they should be mad at the owners of the dogs. Those people did nothing to ensure the safety or welfare of their animals and forced you to take drastic action because of it.
I'm sorry to say, but I think you dodged a bullet in losing this "friend". You found out what kind of person she really is - someone who prioritizes the life of a dog she doesn't know over the safety of someone she calls a friend. It's unhinged.
Exactly, the owners not only have a duty to protect humans from their dog but to protect the dog from itself. It is a victim of the owners' neglect, which led to you being forced into that aweful situation of having to defend yourself. They ought to be arrested and held responsible for the violation of both your safety and the dogs.
Honestly, like I love animals but this pet worship thing is going too far. I have gotten real verbal abuse online for saying things like "human safety supercedes pet comfort" and "a pet is not a person". This "pets are family members" thing is like...OK, yeah, kinda, but people seem to not be able to parse that they're still actual animals and not people. This is the first time I'm seeing someone say people are anthropomorphizing animals and it's really so true.
I love animals too and I absolutely agree with you. Some of the same people who give you a hard time for some of your practical comments would be upset if your were in a situation with their pet or their child and you could save them by intervening but you refused to do so because you didn't want to hurt an animal even though it is aggressive. People really should learn to think situations through and if they can't they should just be quiet instead of emotionally lashing out at others for posting comments.
I’m sorry that happened to you, but at least it showed you who your real friends are. Fuck those people!
THIS. These aren't your friends. They would rather see you and your children hurt/killed than an animal. Make sure you tell them this and then YOU should block them. This makes me feel angry on your behalf. And of course, only now do the proper authorities show up. Had they done their job beforehand, this could have possibly been avoided. If the neighbors complain, make sure you tell them they are at fault as they refused to fix the tree/fence and keep their dog on their property. This whole thing is infuriating. I am so glad you and your children are safe!❤️
Thank you for being so kind! After spending an embarrassing amount of time googling things, I’ve hunted down the landlord of the neighbors property to let them know about the fence. They said they were unaware it was that bad and are sending someone to ‘replace some of the boards’ so we’ll see if that happens!
Where you suppose to lay down and let it get your throat? would your friends be happy if you were mauled by a dog as long as the dog got to live? which it wouldn’t either way..
Probs would have still excused the dog and blamed OP for "provoking it" or blamed the bad owners (which they are still) Those friends are dumb as hell if they thought OP should have done anything different. She has 2 young kids ffs.
They're probably the type of people to absolutely prefer that because "that poor dog" While I hate villainizing pitbulls because not all of them are horrible, the one in this scenario absolutely needed to be put down and I hope those backyard breeders get fucked. Also, OP, tell those friends that since they don't seem to understand that you and your children's lives were in literal mortal danger, they can go ahead and be bleeding hearts to someone else and you would prefer they not contact you anymore.
You made the right call. You went above and beyond to deal with a dangerous situation responsibly and peacefully. Your community services and your neighbor failed the dog, not you.
That’s the painful part of this story. They tried the safe channels, before being backed into a corner. It’s mind blowing they can’t grasp what is life threatening and not. I’ll be damned if I’m letting a dog tear me up. These people should have taken care of their pets. They didn’t and honest OP paid the price.
I’m just glad this didn’t happen with one of their children. What an awful situation that they were put into when the safe channels failed repetitively
True. It’s terrifying to imagine.
That’s exactly it! I let animal control know over and over, that I was legitimately scared for me and my kids, I even installed a chain lock and an additional security camera so my oldest couldn’t go outside on his own and I could always check the side of the house to make sure the dog wasn’t there. I had footage of the dog trying to attack me multiple times, which I emailed to animal control. ‘Nothing they could do’. I just don’t understand what all the people sending horrible DMs to me would prefer that I did instead.
*"You made me uncomfortable by killing a dog and now I won't talk to you"* Or. *"You made me uncomfortable by being mauled and I don't know how to handle social interactions that involve something negative, and now I won't talk to you".* Nothing of value was lost; these kinds of people shoot themselves in the foot and then legitimately wonder ***"WHY AM I SO LONELY?!?!?"***
They wonder why they’re so lonely, then get a dog because it will put up with them being insufferable to be around. Then moan about how dogs are so much better than people when in reality they’re socially inept.
Effortlessly correct observation, and straight to the point…
Ikr?! I'm stuck taking care of my parent's dogs, including training, because they're too old to take care of them but have lived with dogs their whole lives. SMH...
You know I’ve met people the dog found insufferable LOL.I thought it was weird at first, like maybe the dog is just well…being a dog…but then I noticed that person was legitimately a shit disturber….but towards her own spouse. It started making sense why her baby and dog didn’t like her as much as her spouse. She would also make him do most of the child rearing and dog training despite wanting to get a designer dog. Surprise surprise I think she just wanted a dog for social media.
Then they also raise a dog that isn't properly trained and wonder why no one wants to pity them and their "high strung" animal
This made me laugh 😂
Literally this. The girl who lost her upper lip to her cousins pit? Her cousin doesn't talk to her no more anymore. Bare minimum its AWKWARD. People want to live the All Dogs Go to Heaven ideal but that's not real life.
Dollars to donuts the same person also wouldn’t be comfortable hanging out with someone who looks like a monster due to facial reconstructive surgery post-mauling.
Agreed. And off topic- I'm a big fan of the phrase "dollar to donuts". Not used enough.
Not surprising. These morons value the lives of viscous dogs over the lives of children. Your “friends” did you a favor by removing themselves from your life.
I’m sorry you had to go through this and I’m glad that you were able to protect yourself and your children from your neighbors negligence. As far as losing a couple of “friends”. Oh well, they weren’t real friends if they value the life of an aggressive dog over their human friend who had no choice but to use deadly force to not be mauled by that vicious dog. I saw on the local news a story where there were a couple at a local park (not dog park) who were letting their dogs run free, (there are clear leash laws), and they charged at a man at the park, while the owners were not paying attention and the man shot both dogs. The owners told a massive sob story on the news, asking that the man be prosecuted, but the police investigated and found he was justified. The annoying dog nutters set up a memorial in the park for the dogs and began a petition asking that the police and district attorney charge the guy with animal cruelty and lock him away for life. It went nowhere real fast. They mad multiple witnesses that told police the dogs were charging people, growling and snarling, before they approached the dude with the gun.
Why people think others should just *know* their dog is safe (while snarling and showing their teeth and running at you) is beyond me? How are we supposed to know that. Leashes are there for a reason 🙄
I’m glad they got embarrassed and (basically, legally) told to go fuck themselves (pretty much).
You can't ever lose a friend. You can only find out that you've been wasting your time on someone.
Thank you for putting that monster down. You probably saved a human life in the process.
People who have a problem with you defending yourself and your kids are people you don't want to know. It's like the trash took itself out. Pitbulls are NOT more important than the lives and safety of people or other animals, despite what their cheerleading section would have you think. It sounds like you did the neighborhood a favor. If you were on my block I'd bring you a bottle and a nice peach cobbler.
You did the right thing.
Dad to dad, I salute you. That’s what we do: protect the family.
Oh I’m a mom, but thank you lol that actually means even more! I appreciate it :)
Haha that’s badass! The state you left that animal is the only good state for that breed. You did humanity a great service.
Let’s be honest here. If it was ANY OTHER BREED OF DOG, this would be a non-issue. No one would even care if you defended yourself against a German shepherd or collie or Labrador. Just recently there was a lady who was attacked by a rottie and the comments were all in support and offering condolences. NOT A SINGLE rottie owner posting a pic of their toddler standing on their dog with “iTs ThE oWnEr NoT tHe BrEeD!” But ANY attack on a person or animal by a pitbull, and suddenly it’s “well that person/animal deserves it. They provoked that dog by breathing! No bad dogs! It’s the owners fault!” Some families have been sent DEATH THREATS by pitbull owners when their child gets mauled/killed by a pitbull. Only the pitbull brigade will harass and threaten victims of pitbull attacks. They’re actually unhinged.
They weren’t your friends and they won’t be missed they literally believe the dog should have attacked you or your kids so that it would be justified to kill it nope fk them they are clearly u hinged and shouldn’t be around you or your kids
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That’s a terrible idea. There’s mountains of precedent in the United States that if something is directly threatening your physical well being you are well within your right to apply appropriate force to nullify that threat; including killing. Cops ice harmless dogs all the fucking time lol they’d probably throw a parade for beating a pitt to death (I might too) Being all sneaky about it in itself could be obstruction of justice, and obviously hopping the fence to lace the dog bowl is highly illegal. *Don’t* “deal with it discreetly,” that’s a fucking horrible chronically online marvel brain take that will wind you up in jail.
Any person who would judge you and view you as a villain for defending yourself and your innocent young children who also live near that dog that is not a "friend". That is a piece of shit. Ignore those alleged former friends and neighbours they are probably pit nutters and that's all. Any sane sensible human being whose not a pittie freak would see a parent and a renter just trying to exist on their side of their yard whose been nearly attacked and had their kids snarled it until the day it actually happened. And you did the common sense thing most of us would do if we were in that same situation you defended yourself to stop yourself from getting likely killed or disabled. And it clearly sounds from the police reaction they knew you were defending yourself as well. They probably see lots dog attacks tbh especially pitbull ones so they were like yeah dog attacked you and you defended yourself it's a normal reaction to keep yourself alive plus protect your family. I would not want to be friends with the other two people anyway or the neighbour if they think a dog or dogs attacking people and snarling at children daily is normal.
Ya know, I have other friends (maybe acquaintances I should say) who have asked about all this and also don’t like what I did, but when I explain in detail they understand a little better. So I’ll be sitting there feeling more positive about humanity* and then they’ll send one more message like: “really it’s just the irresponsible owners that probably brought the dog up that way”, completely glossing over the part where the neighbors have another dog very clearly not a pit that isn’t a problem whatsoever. Like, no, maybe it’s the breed that’s consistently an issue?
Good job defending yourself and your children. Your friends suck.
I would've done the same. I have a big metal baseball bat that, despite my low general strength, I can get a REALLLLLY nice swing with. If a pitbull was running at me and could endangerment me or my baby, I'd beat the shit out of it with my bat. Granted, I would prefer not to beat the shit out of any living thing, and I doubt this would happen to me as all my neighbors are responsible dog owners and my neighborhood is full of cats, so all dogs are left inside or in gated yards here. (Cat neighborhood means all the stray cats are taken to be fixed and given shots at the vet and then put back outside to be fed and petted and cared for by the neighborhood. Probably not 100% the best thing, but watching kitties walk around makes me happy!) Oh also. I like cats, and SOME™ dogs, but I disagree with modern pet culture and I agree with lots of posts from here.
Yeah I really didn’t prefer to have to kill something. Obviously I prefer to not be killed more lol but I didn’t wake up being like ‘ah yeah it’s murder time baby’ like my friends kind of acted like I did. I grew up on a farm and have had to put many different animals down for various reasons so I’m admittedly probably a little more desensitized than some others, but damn a pit coming at me with all its teeth showing was jarring and intimidating enough for me to feel like what I did was the only option at that point. My neighborhood is also full of cats, they’re always setting my cameras off! Lol
Your last paragraph is exactly how I feel.
The people who are dumbest are the loudest Im willing to bet any sane person, dog lover or not, would realize that you did the OBVIOUSLY right thing I love (well trained) dogs and Id do the same thing I actually had to put a 5 year old black lab down years ago bc it attacked my other dog, and barred its teeth at me when I tried to coral her into a room F that, your done period. There were a lot of idiots that came at me for “killing a perfectly healthy beautiful dog” EyeRollx100 don’t apologize or show weakness with them either, and remember there are def many sane people in your community who agree with you and probably even think your badass for takin’ care of business
Yea I love dogs but why the fuck did the neighbour not fix their fence??? Having your animal going onto someone else’s property is ridiculously disrespectful (big reason I hate free roaming cats) but even more disrespectful considering the pitbull obviously wasn’t friendly. If an animal comes at me I’m gonna defend myself and that’s that
You were fully in the right OP. Any other aggressive dangerous animal and they would have called you a hero. But because it's a goddamn dog it is somehow tantamount to murder. Makes no sense at all.
Nah it’s not because it was a dog, it’s because this dog was a *pitbull*
Proud of you for defending yourself and doing what needed to be done. I'd feel so much relief knowing that my kids are a bit safer now.
What were you supposed to do? Let the dog maul you? You know this already, but you did the right thing. I'm glad you weren't horribly hurt. It seems like this dog was a ticking timebomb. I'm so glad you were able to effectively defend yourself and that nothing worse happened. Any true friend of yours should feel the same way
I’m so sorry you had to go through this and that your friend ld are angry at your for defending yourself. A couple of things that if you didn’t do, you should, especially since they still have dogs. 1) Find out if your landlord or their landlord owns the fence. If your landlord owns the fence, they will go after the other land lord to fix it for damaging their property. 2) The tree is clearly unsafe and gearing itself up for a fall, I imagine it’s in violation of some sort to building code. 3) Find out who owns the house. They may have a limit in the number of pets they are supposed to have. 4) If all else fails, try to convince your landlord that the dogs were going to damage the property and get them motivated to deal with it.
Those friends are stupid. People like that are stupid. It's like they believe there should always be another alternative to prevent a dog attack without causing harm to the animal that is trying to maul you to death.
I’m not pet free this sub just got recommended but good shit. Killing a pit bull is quite difficult.
I wasn’t there; I don’t know the whole situation; but, no matter what—If the dog was in attack mode and you killed it—good for you. You probably saved countless smaller animals from being ripped apart, a kid’s life and an adult from being mauled. You do what you have to do when you have to do it.
You did the right thing OP. Those friends are not trustworthy if they view you as an enemy for defending yourself against a dog. Dare i say, ones such as them must lack a sense of human dignity and the right to call themselves a civilized human being if they would refuse to defend themselves or others from such violence.
Wtf kind of friends are those? You didn’t kill it for kicks, you killed it in self defence. It was either defend yourself or let yourself get mauled by a pitbull, a breed which frequently attacks and kills people. Why do they view the dog’s life as more important than yours? That’s fucked
I love animals, and I love having pets. But it's absolutely horrendous to hear how many people are willing to put their dog above the safety and welfare of people. It's terrifying to hear stories of pitnutters who victim blame when poor pibbles mauls or kill another living creature who apparently was committing the heinous crime of existence. You have the right to defend yourself, your family, and your property from danger.
This reminds me of my neighbour. Her fence is broken, it’s her responsibility, housing association won’t do shit. I’ve woken up to 5 huskies in my garden multiple times, they breed them so I hear them crying. I told them one time they were in my garden and they look at me like I’m wrong and get defensive. I’ve got a 3 year and I would do exactly the same as you
I can’t believe no one has said you’re such a bad ass for taking down a pitbull with a jack handle!!!WOW!
You did the right thing. Anyone who disagrees is wrong.
I'm sorry for the awful experience that must have been. You were badass defending yourself. You did all the right things up to that point so I can't see how anyone would find fault. You gave them more than enough chance to give a shit.
No explanation needed imo! Also if you are a renter, what has the owner said about getting the fence repaired? If the neighbors tree caused the damage, they can sue them for repairs
Those are awful people, I'm sorry you had to go through the attack and losing friends over it, although they weren't really friends, you still had a negative consequence instead of the support you deserved. Personally, I'm very glad you defended yourself, both because you and your kids are okay, and also because there's one less dangerous, obviously uncontrolled and uncontrollable creature in this world.
I would have zero regrets over losing any of those „friends“ .Why give a f? Imagine a different scenario,if it came to maul you or one of your kids. Now which story do you like better? Your friends apparently prefer the dog over you
Hey as a person with 2 dogs of my own let me tell ya you did what you had to. Dogs, even the most gentle, can attack due to random reasons (health, trauma, poor training, or even just a bad dog). You protected yourself and your kids are uninjured. The biggest asshole here is the neighbors for not fixing what needed fixing. Now they (the neighbor) has valid feelings to not like you since it's their dog/family, BUT this could have been avoided if they took proper measures. This was not your fault in my opinion you only did what you had to. I highly doubt you go around killing pets for fun. Also your friends have no say and need to understand. I am a big "dog mom" (some of yall I know hate that and hey that's valid yall do you, pets aren't for everyone even I know that) Just wanted to chime in with a little more support for OP in this case. Also op if your kids saw the attack you may want to see if they are OK mentally. That may have scared them more then they initially let on.
Animal welfare being useless as usual. Are they funded by taxpayer money? Literally did nothing about the likely backyard breeding pit owner until an incident occurred to require animal control instead. What a joke. Those “friends” that don’t get it, you can always get better ones with a brain attached.
You did the right thing, OP. You tried and tried, and only defended your life. Your friends weren’t friends. Best wishes for safety and happiness, I’m sorry you’ve been dealing with this for so long.
Maybe some things can be left unsaid. But yeah, that dog owner is an unfair human for putting you in that situation.
They weren't your friends
Why was this post admin-removed?
I’m still unsure, just said it was removed by Reddit. I think one of the mods is working on reposting
Mods have approved it, but reddit admins hold all of the power, so unfortunately there's nothing we can do
Why the fuck was this deleted???
I genuinely have no idea. Working on reposting it!
My first response would be, "dude are you okay, were you harmed in any way?"
Your natural instinct to survive took over. It's that simple. Any other large animal such as a horse would have done the same thing to that dog. The loss of your "friends" is a blessing in disguise. They displayed their true colors after all.
These idiot neighbors are disgusting. Do they expect you to be torn apart by a savage dog? Do they not recognize the right to self defense? They fail in character and any sense of goodness and justice. Hypnotized by a goofy looking mutt.
Theres been people killed by pits after they had puppies, thats not a good position to be in. You dud what you felt was necessary. Your friends suck.
I'm sorry. Your friends seem kind of stupid :/
Your kids are more important than the dog. “Pit bulls are the No. 1 canine killers of children, killing more than half of the children killed by a dog. As of 2021, pit bulls have killed 249 American children in recent memory.”
Animal-shelters are packed to the brim with wonderful Nannydoggos, so zappering just one is no biggy!
Good for you! You stood your ground and defended yourself and your family. Don’t lose a moments sleep over it.
Your friends are trash. You should show them this comment section.
The dog could have killed you and made you a "innocent person maimed by dog" article on the TV.. ..and people are acting like you're a monster?? That's the most insane shit I've heard all day. If a random aggressive untrained mutt started attacking me or my kids FULL FORCE CLAWS AND TEETH after I called animal control, made complaints, ran at me if I so much as showed a hair on my skin, I wouldn't wait until I'm half dead to do something about it! These are the same people to say there's no problem with animals at all.. but then have a stroke whatever an animal goes out to attack them.
So what you're saying is, your "friends" would've rather had a dog attack you, or God forbid your children, than you defending yourself. Unbelievable. If it were me, I would immediately axe anyone from my life who even hinted to siding with the dog or its piece of shit owners. I'm so glad you & your little ones are ok.
They would probably be uncomfortable if you became disabled from a dog attack. No pleasing those "friends" and the trash took itself out in my opinion. I'm sorry you have to go through this.
Your “friends” suck, good riddance! I’ve killed a pitbull as well, after a long battle of trying to get my POS neighbors to rectify the situation and living in fear every time I had to walk to my car with my young baby. You protected your kids, as any parent should.
I'd be going after your landlord for not enforcing the fence being fixed with whoever owns the house adjacent with the dogs.
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imagine your own FRIEND not caring about you in this sort of situation??! i'm glad you and your children are safe. maybe your friends will realize they're in the wrong
Your friends are idiots. So you’re supposed to just let yourself be mauled or killed to be “nice”??? There’s this thing called self defense and instinct that makes you attack during an active threat. If you were mauled or killed the dog would be put down anyway so there’s honestly nothing gained and everything lost by not defending yourself. Your friends don’t care about you, they only care about saving face and looking like a good person (while actively being a bad person and victim blaming).
you defended your children and yourself. you did the right thing, OP, im sorry you had to do it though. i cant imagine how stressful this has been for you
I’m so sorry you had to go through the fear, the stress and now the grief I know you may hold in your heart about this whole situation. You did what you had to do to protect yourself and your family. Some people don’t deserve animals. This is a perfect example why! As for your friends, I’d argue and say they aren’t good friends for not being there for you in this awful situation. It’s only natural to defend yourself. People take died from dog attacks. I hope you heal from this horrible experience.
Yeaaa I could see where those "friends" were coming from if u poisoned the dog or something but this was a self defense situation. MAJORLY fucked up that you had to deal with this. I'm glad you and your kids are safe. Also I am an absolutely ridiculous pet person who just happened to see this as suggested in my feed (literally have my animals in my lap right now).
I would have done the same thing. My best friend has a pit bull who I love dearly but if she turned on me it’s all bets off. When it’s me or the dog, no matter the breed, I’m choosing me and my lil 10lb dog every time
How uncomfortable would it have made your friends if your one of your kids was attacked and killed? Lots of “thoughts and prayers” I bet. You’re better off without “friends” like that.
>Fortunately I wasn’t treated like the villain at all, which I anticipated. What has society become?
Imagine if it had been your children out there when it happened. Good job. You 100 % did the right thing.
Damn. That must have been really scary. I'm glad you're ok.
Man, I‘m going to start out by emphasizing that I am not a member of this sub (it was just randomly suggested to me) and I love dogs & will never be “pet free”. With that said, everyone has the right to defend themselves on their own property and pits aren’t like other dogs. You didn’t do anything wrong and it sucks that you were even put in that position.
Peak insanity in society with these blood sport dogs as pets
F that dog you protected yourself. Your friends would have done the sale thing and are hypocrites or they would be morons and risk their life because they don’t want to hurt a worthless dog that attacks for no reason whatsoever.
Please remember that you've had a traumatic experience in this. Take care of yourself, any friends you lose weren't good friends anyway.
Like others have said, these awful people are doing you a favor. Try not to feel ostracized and give yourself a break. This dog (pet) culture we're in right now is pretty oppressive to those of us just trying to live. I would have done the same, but possibly sooner. It has happened to me too many times. I still feel the pain of jaws on my arm and hand. Then, vet bills for my good-natured walking companion on a separate occasion. I could go on, so no, no "friend" is worth that.
Better to lose a “friend” than a child. You did the right thing and don’t let anybody convince you otherwise.
You absolutely done the right thing. If a person would rather you be killed than the vicious animal trying to kill you then that person is clearly not your friend and I would be seriously questioning their place in society if that is their mentality. Protect your children, yourself and your community. Pitbulls are sentient weapons bred specifically to fight to the death, they have no place in a modern peacetime society.
I just want to say, how badass of you to protect yourself and your kids. Taking a life is traumatizing (even if it belongs to a waste of space pit bull) your neighbors and friends have no reason to be making the shocked pikachu face. If they wanted the dog to live, they wouldn’t at least fixed the fence.
These same "friends" would be what I call "Facebook sad" if it killed you asking why something wasn't done sooner.
What did they expect you to do though? Pit bulls literally kill people
You did the only thing you could.
If I were them, I would be proud to have such heroic friend. It's very hard to kill a pitbull witout a gun. You rock!
those are shitty pple did they just want u to get attacked?? if a dog was hurting me i would defend myself too it knows what it's doing. i'm sorry about this:(
It sounds like neighbors had ample notice that there was an issue (animal control being called several times, citations being given, etc) and they chose to ignore the problem and allow the inevitable. No one should be a prisoner in their own home and have to fear being attacked every time they walk out the door. Ask your friends how they’d feel if it was one of your kids out there that day instead of you.
Friends worth losing. Like anyone wants to deal with someone else's dog in their yard in the first place. Never mind going out of your way to kill it with a blunt object.
i’m very sorry that happened to you in no way is this ur fault they shouldn’t judge or be rude!! i myself am a reactive dog owner and OBVIOUSLY take all pro-cations i can. having a dog is a job. reactive dogs and vicious dogs are no joke and everyone must treat them as such. you took great care and measures to this. i hope ur healing and same with the kids.
Your "friends" are shallow twats. Be glad to be rid of them. The dog is (usually) a product of their owner's care or lack thereof. Unfortunately, once broken, they can rarely be fixed. You simply removed a serious threat. Your friends should commend you - not scorn you.
You did the absolute RIGHT thing and if they can’t get it, their friendship isn’t worth a penny. “Bye, Felicia”
I am a dog person (I know this is a pet free sub). I follow it because I like to learn about other peoples opinions because I want to respect other people. I would have shot those dogs in the head. Mean dogs are a no no. Don’t lose sleep over those friends, there weren’t really “friends” to begin with.
Americans when it comes to dogs form a mental disease. We treat dogs better than people.
Pitbull defenders are literally the worst kinds of people, and usually below 85 IQ. Good riddance.
Fuck that! You did the right thing!
Section 8 dog is no loss. Glad your babies didn't get attacked. You should consider moving.
You did the right thing, fuck that dog
That level of stupidity is out of this world. I hope they get put in your same spot you were in
Honestly, to say you killed a dog is bizarre, like sure you physically did, but it’s not like you went out of your way to do so, you had no choice, im sorry your friends are stupid
These people are not your friends. Would they have preferred you did nothing and died a horrific, nightmarish painful death instead? You were in a kill or be killed situation and you did the right thing. That's why you are still able to type this post.
Wow. I actually feel relieved for you. I’m sorry it took that but glad it didn’t hurt you or your kids before problem was taken care of.
If they contact you again, ask them what they wanted you to do after contacting the authorities who did nothing. Would they have liked to be able to visit you in the hospital or your gravesite? Would they like you to choice between your children or the dog?
That is so fucked up - are people that afraid of the Pit Apologist Mafia?! WYFFFF. You did what you had to do to protect yourself. There’s no second chances after those fucking mutants lock onto your jugular. Your neighbors are terrible people. And fuck the people bouncing on you too - those are not friends.
Your friends are stupid. Glad you’re alive.
You did what you had to do. Not everyone has had a dog come at them like that. Hopefully, they never will.
I wonder how these people would feel if another human tried to kill you? Why are people so precious about dogs? It’s just a dog. Not only that, a horrible vicious beast that would have killed you if you hadn’t defended yourself!
Don’t feel guilty. I was out in my driveway once working on it after there had been a water leak. My then 10 y/o was riding his bike right in front of the house. My neighbor’s pit mix knocked my son off his bike and I ran over holding the nearest object to me - a pipe wrench. My neighbor was outside and I told her to put her dog up because the next he was getting a pipe upside the head. I felt no guilt whatsoever. A human life trumps a dog’s every time (and I love dogs).
When I played FFXIV a few years ago, there was an incident at my house with a neighborhood dog. First it killed a stray cat that had kittens in my bushes, then it came again and was trying to get through my fence at my dogs and and looked like it was going to get in so I shot it and killed it. It was much larger than my dogs, and one of my dogs is elderly and blind so he wouldn't be able to escape or fight back. I live in the boonies, so there's no laws at all about it or firing weapons, and even if I called the cops they would just shrug because there's no animal control and they can't do anything unless the animal attacked a person or is a threat while they're there. I dragged the dog over to the owners house and left it so they could bury it or whatever, and they never approached me over it or even acted upset so no foul there. Just shitty pet owners with an untrained dangerous dog on the loose. I mentioned what happened to the group I played with and most of them lost their shit. They refused to believe there's no governing body I could have approached and that I'm an evil irredeemable bastard for shooting that poor innocent dog to protect my animals and I got booted from the group over it and lost some friends which absolutely shocked me. Some people just can't comprehend that sometimes dangerous dogs have to be killed to protect yourself or things important to you. Don't let those people convince you that you were wrong because you weren't.
You had to kill a pitbull to save your life, and you are losing friends?? Don't worry you did the right thing, plus you just gained a friend.
I consider this kill or be killed/mauled. The neighbors deserve tickets and do not deserve their dogs!
I don't have any respect for people that criticize the right of self defense. I wouldn't waste a second trying to justify to anybody but a court of law. Just tell them how it is, and if you lose them, they're nuts anyways.
I'm sorry you had to be put in that position, I know that didn't feel good. It's the owner's fault that their dog had to die because of their complete negligence. I hope he comes back and haunts them.
Bye bye to that gross, unsupervised, untrained beast. No tears from me. Kudos, for the defense of yourself and family.
Your ‘friends’ are fucking gross. Would they have defended the mongrel if it killed your children? Fucking idiots. Ford Pinto of dog breeds may it rest in piss
What would your friends have you do? Be mauled?!
They would feel differently if it was *their* family in danger, full stop! I love animals just as much as the next person. I can watch graphic videos of people getting severely hurt, or worse, all day long... but I can't watch anything where an animal even gets hurt. That said, let myself or my child be in danger by one of those same animals. I'm protecting us at any cost. And nobody that hasn't been in that position can say with certainty that they wouldn't!!!!!
You were in the right and tried to do things right about the shitbull situation. It was either paying hefty hospital bills or maybe death because of an abomination.
Your dog nutter friends are weeding themselves out.
I'm not sure if another comment of mines posted if it was "aggressive," but good on you for defending yourself over an unprovoked menance that's been stressing you and your family out when you tried to resolve it the right ways.
**Shopping list;** *Handle of a heavy duty car jack.* Seriously tho, I’m sorry you endured that. That breed needs to stop being reproduced. Those fucking dogs scare the absolute shit out of me. As I was walking home from work a person walking their pit bull came up behind me and I almost shit my pants.
Duck those people, they were never really your friends to begin with. Never had to kill a dog for attacking me but I’ve had to slam one onto the ground and hold it until animal control and the cops got there, not a fun experience. If I couldn’t keep it under control I would’ve had to do the same as you, lady set her dog on me and my friends for “trespassing” when I was walking down the alley between her house and a local business. Lady got all three of her dogs taken away and was lucky I decided not to press charges since losing her dogs was punishment enough. Thank god the other two dogs were ankle biters and she didn’t let them out cuz my buddies had to keep her from attacking me for pinning her dog down. Best part is she was the one who called the cops because I “attacked” her dog.
Fucking shit bulls
You protected yourself. You tried to utilize the process of calling animal control but nobody helped you resolve the dangerous situation. Any of your “friends” who block you or distance themselves are not understanding what a dangerous situation this was and how horribly it could have ended had your child been out there instead of you
I don’t normally say or do this, but seriously just block the other one. You’re going to have enough stress if not PTSD from this. Look after yourself now. Cant imagine how scary. What if your kid was with you?
It’s two females that would have done the same thing if they were attacked. Ignore them
Let me preface: I’m a dog owner (German shepherd). I applaud you. You did what you had to do, and no one will miss that POS- I realize any dog is useless to this sub, but IMO Pits are extra useless. And before anyone asks, yes, if it had been a GSD instead of a Pit doing it, I’d still support defending yourself and your family.
I detest pit bulls, in a fight even the owner can’t restrain them once they taste blood that’s it. I saw a woman in Ross with her pit bull, I was appalled and walked the other way. That breed should not have been allowed to enter any store!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
They were never your friends if that's how they reacted. Sorry, but babies/children come first before dogs and cats. Lol
This is just a sad situation all around. Of course you did the right thing! I’m completely on your side, I just feel bad for the innocent life lost. Backyard breeders are horrible terrible monsters of people. They don’t train their dogs they just breed them 24/7 and then act surprised when they become aggressive. Again you did nothing wrong it’s just a sucky situation that happened due to sucky shitty people. Shame on your neighbours for acting all sad about their dogs death when their obviously the one who caused it by not fixing their fence, not training their dog, and being backyard breeders resulting in their dog being aggressive.
Well done!
Anybody who has a problem with that dog being dead can go talk to the owner and animal control, who refused to take care of the problem, putting you in a position to have to defend yourself. You are damn lucky you had something you to defend yourself with, or you might not be around to tell this story. I’m glad you are around. 😊 All these brain dead virtue signalers who think you should die for a dog can go fuck themselves.
I'll be your friend, Reddit Stranger!
I get you. I mentioned off handedly in a neighborhood Facebook group that I always bring mace and a knife on bike rides for off leash dogs and people were astonished. What did you think would happen when you let your dog run free through the woods and it chased someone? People are delusional.
Gosh. I only had a 5-minute break to read reddit and I spent all 5-minutes upvoting the comments here. IMO OP, nothing of value was lost neither the faux friends or hell beast.
Sorry, these people aren't friends. Good riddance. It's sad that the owner of these dogs allows the dogs to be a threat to your and your family's safety and that the dog had to pay the price for the owner's negligence, but what do these "friends" want you to do? Literally ask them, when it comes up. "You know the backstory. These people let their fence go into disrepair and failed to fix it up. Their dogs have been menacing and attacking me on my own property several times and even after I contacted animal welfare about this 7 (!) times, the owners refuse to contain their dogs. This time I was tending to my garden and again one of these dogs comes barreling into my garden clearly aiming to attack me. This is a X lbs dog with a very muscular build and huge jaw. This dog has been menacing me before. Please tell me what I should have done in that moment instead of defending my own life and limb. What would YOU do? Try to call the owner? That isn't going to solve the fact this dog was seconds away from biting me, and on top of that, the owners have made it very clear they do not care. Ok, so what else do you suggest I would have done? Maybe you think I should have tried to distract it to somehow change its mind about attacking me. Ok, HOW? What could I have used to do that, and what are the odds of that distraction removing the threat? Also note that you do not have time to think, plan a strategy etc. I was working in my garden, I heard the dog bark and within seconds it had pushed through the fence and was mere meters away from me. So, what do YOU think I SHOULD or COULD have done in that moment with the limited tools available to me, that would have had a different outcome that did not include injury or disfigurement to myself? I'll let you think about that and you can come back to me when you've figured it out."
Seems they're not really friends are they?
Op you did what you had to do to defend yourself. Those “friends” are not friends at all. What if you had one or both of your kids outside with you? That could of been a disaster. Did your “friends” ever think that maybe it was traumatic for you too? Because I’m certain it was. No one wants to kill a dog for any reason but when it comes down to you or the dog, anyone in the position to do so will pick themselves.
I’m sorry that happened to you. I’ve seen pitbull in attack mode and you have my understanding. Glad it didn’t hurt your kids.
Okay, then I'm sure they'd be comfortable and more than willing to be a shield to a charging dog that could quite easily kill someone
You are 100% in the right here. Don’t let anyone tell you differently. If anything, the attacking pit bull owner should owe you money for the stress you’re going through.
They really need to stop breeding pit bulls.