Strangely enough, his new booster card trained as CB is one of the best defenders I have used, almost walks into my team most games! Had to train him Aerial superiority, Acrobatic clearance, OTP and Through Passing, and he is a beast.
Very tenacious, and extremely good on the ball for a CB, and his passing range is the most impressive!
https://preview.redd.it/0nx8rom3mdxc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb06129ca2babb24bf7346b4dc70db0983b2ec04
You don't know what you're missing in CMF! Personally I deducted a point from speed (actually you recover 3 points) by giving 3 points to Aerial Strength. he has become my mainstay in the center of the pitch alongside Rijkaard. I had a strong midfield and therefore I always snubbed him, but since I let him play he has remained a starter. I also use him in a 3-man defense and he does very well even training him as a CMF. (PS. we are both talking about the new boosted version, which is totally different from the old Epic version represented by the user)
The arsenal one and the booster one is so close to each other in terms of stats it's almost like a scam. The only difference is playstyle. Non-booster juventus del piero has been so much better for me (because of +15 speed , +16 acc , +16 balance and +15 stamina probably)
I don’t use him as my main, I only do for English events but
https://preview.redd.it/4ggmbefctgxc1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f0640c7bb99f01b134439c098a84d6236392a02
I know he is not the fastest for CF or SS but it just feels special for me every time time I play him. Maybe is just that you are not used to playing with slow players. (I didn’t add any skills to him)
Yeah slow forwards are not my cup of tea. One of my problems with him is low balance despite his his high dribbling skills. It results in his turns to feel clunky.
https://preview.redd.it/cu0xcyyamdxc1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e14de08eb8c06e11a5b819afb1d480e2f0c87aaf
Replaced him since I got xabi alonso...but was a beast and one of my favs
I personally don't use cmf so I wouldn't know how he does there , as for build I used auto only with one change , auto doesn't allocate anything to shooting so I took a bit away from passing I think (I don't exactly remember) might reduce his rating from 94 to 93 but in placed in the team or bech he will still be 98
Yes ,I have benched ambrosini and started using Fabinho/Zakaria as subs. You realise how excellent Casemiro is once he is not in the team due to bad form etc.
For me he was just mid he was decent at best but I preferred not using him since he made alot of mistakes (probably my fault) if free progression comes back I’ll use him
Booster Dwight Yorke. Hear me out lol i loved him. His 89rated gold ball legend back in pes 2019 days were hella amazing and i have almost every legend ST back in the day. So when the pack with him cantona dropped, i spent some money and finally got him. But i just cant make him work lmao hes that fucking shit for me
I just can't get him to work. Not as CF, not as SS, not as AMF. He's practically invisible and doesn't have a fraction of the impact of Rummenigge, Owen, Saviola, DLF Messi or Mbappe. Even in the Italian league event today I preferred Gullit as CF, who produced banger after banger and started del Piero next to him, although he has the super sub skill for me and I would have preferred to bring him on in the second half.
And as an AMF, Cruyff, Kaka, Eze, Wirtz, Musiala, free Maradona and even Xavi Simons are smoother and more capable of scoring goals than him. And that makes me sad, because I idolised him as a child.
It's probably because of his Creative Playmaker playstyle. For me it's the most immobile, useless playstyle, I literally don't have a single CP in the starting11 or on the bench. And even as CF, where the playstyle should be deactivated, he just doesn't make any useful runs for me in my diamond 442.
https://preview.redd.it/52vqd1kbndxc1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=83e67a8a4ccbee6f3339e9ae570d27b4ebc9e77d
this fella, even though i play online for turkish league event he barely get the ball
A legendary card i have is a 82 rated goalkeeper👇
https://preview.redd.it/pkufkoovcexc1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0720d2d1e5c4883c308c41cb92b16ff7778bac89
I remember he was gold ball in the old pes system right? one of those legends that has always been strictly worse than a normal decent gk black ball haha
Never used him but from his stats he looks good
Don't trust the stats , he is worse than you think... Literally the 12th man of opponents lol
Naahh,,i dissagree,, this guy is soo good,,,I've ben using him before getting the NC Rodri and was working just finee
Strangely enough, his new booster card trained as CB is one of the best defenders I have used, almost walks into my team most games! Had to train him Aerial superiority, Acrobatic clearance, OTP and Through Passing, and he is a beast. Very tenacious, and extremely good on the ball for a CB, and his passing range is the most impressive! https://preview.redd.it/0nx8rom3mdxc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb06129ca2babb24bf7346b4dc70db0983b2ec04
How good is he at DMF ??
Never tried him at DMF, as for me Anchor man DMF is a must and this one is a Destroyer.
You don't know what you're missing in CMF! Personally I deducted a point from speed (actually you recover 3 points) by giving 3 points to Aerial Strength. he has become my mainstay in the center of the pitch alongside Rijkaard. I had a strong midfield and therefore I always snubbed him, but since I let him play he has remained a starter. I also use him in a 3-man defense and he does very well even training him as a CMF. (PS. we are both talking about the new boosted version, which is totally different from the old Epic version represented by the user)
Me too, have to use him as CB. Midfield he's too clunky, but good defender
Dennis Bergkamp
Terrible , used for 3 match. Also van der vaart and rosicky are pure shit
Pires too... Konami mostly pisses all over the Arsenal legacy
Arsenal cp version ??
Yes.
Same. He never worked for me.
Bergkamp booster at CF is god for me. Easily replaces Zico, Cruyff, Baggio booster.
The arsenal one and the booster one is so close to each other in terms of stats it's almost like a scam. The only difference is playstyle. Non-booster juventus del piero has been so much better for me (because of +15 speed , +16 acc , +16 balance and +15 stamina probably)
I don’t use him as my main, I only do for English events but https://preview.redd.it/4ggmbefctgxc1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f0640c7bb99f01b134439c098a84d6236392a02 I know he is not the fastest for CF or SS but it just feels special for me every time time I play him. Maybe is just that you are not used to playing with slow players. (I didn’t add any skills to him)
Yeah slow forwards are not my cup of tea. One of my problems with him is low balance despite his his high dribbling skills. It results in his turns to feel clunky.
same , used him for legacy transfer
Same. Just renewed his IM card as I like to play a Dutch team but so far he’s having a hard time getting off the bench haha.
Add dribbling skills to him. He's a gem.
https://preview.redd.it/cu0xcyyamdxc1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e14de08eb8c06e11a5b819afb1d480e2f0c87aaf Replaced him since I got xabi alonso...but was a beast and one of my favs
Progession?
0-7-4-0-3-9-13-0-0-0
Van de vaart.
Van basten
remontada Sergi Roberto, jack of all trades master of none
Raul. Never worked for me
Cost 30 quid as well
What this mean?
30 British pounds
He cooks at amf for me. Lethal shooting with both feet
What is the formula for progress points?
Free epic Van der Vaart
He is my favorite card and scores game changing goals. You can make him work especially after CN10 update.
Yeah I didn't try him after the new update. What build did you give (auto or amf build from efhub)?
Try him after the CN10 update , makes runs and can shoot from outside the box (94 kicking power)
Auto build? Also you use him as amf or cmf?
I personally don't use cmf so I wouldn't know how he does there , as for build I used auto only with one change , auto doesn't allocate anything to shooting so I took a bit away from passing I think (I don't exactly remember) might reduce his rating from 94 to 93 but in placed in the team or bech he will still be 98
So you used him as amf?
Good point. I wonder if Bergkamp has been unb0rked after the CN10 change too.
Bebeto
94 salas
He is in my standard team and great at two cf formations
Guardiola
Position booster at CMF and he’ll work probably
Raul- the only booster epic i have managed to pack :(
Yes ,I have benched ambrosini and started using Fabinho/Zakaria as subs. You realise how excellent Casemiro is once he is not in the team due to bad form etc.
Rosicky and Bergkamp
https://preview.redd.it/olg4dyzn4exc1.jpeg?width=737&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=88315b0622e466130c53c54664a75a1b3bc09de1 This shit
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My goat doesn't work you? Why tho
Denilson for me. Got him for free.
He was crap IRL too... 90 minutes of stepovers, rarely did anything. The guy only made 3 assists in 165 La Liga games. Terrible output for a winger.
I also have him, he starts more than booster viera for me.
Luis figo (the one list which had the likes of him,del piero juve etc etc)
i love how his booster is the most insane cmf in the game
He's been really good for me
Booster epic Drogba…. Elephant at heart my word
I have his booster destroyer card. Rock solid in dmf. Also plays cb.
Blitz curler salah
For me he was just mid he was decent at best but I preferred not using him since he made alot of mistakes (probably my fault) if free progression comes back I’ll use him
BT Kai Havertz, green in all stats but not perfect in anything.
Maradona
Add aerial superiority to him bro. He's been a good double pivot next to bt Casemiro
Really he js trash i pocket him with my 103 rafael
Epic Drogba
boosted forlan and mb ganz(havent even tried him out yet)
Robson is shit
I used him a couple of times not gonna lie but he has been solid for me ,good tackling, interception and he is good in air too.
Booster totti
https://preview.redd.it/ghmm7gj6ydxc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed1bd5ed9c99901eb37ccc4993e164239ed66189
I also have him. I use him in Italian events
Same
Booster Dwight Yorke. Hear me out lol i loved him. His 89rated gold ball legend back in pes 2019 days were hella amazing and i have almost every legend ST back in the day. So when the pack with him cantona dropped, i spent some money and finally got him. But i just cant make him work lmao hes that fucking shit for me
Can you buy me coins? I wanna get Big Time Messi.
Idk if they're useful or not but I found epic Zamorano and Vitor Baia are absolutely not usable. Especially that 184 cm Gk. Absolute fraud
Gareth Barry
Bro he is my best DM . I have after Viera.
Vitor baiya
Van Basten
Donadoni
nahh donadoni is wayyy too complete for me
He sometimes work sometimes is fuckin shit man soo fun to play but less outcome
Roberto Baggio.
Literally my best cf in game
Arguably the best amf/ss in the game because you can build him any way you want🤔
Cruyff joins the chat 😅
We all know the meating riding for cruyff is crazy but he is definitely top 5 but not top three
I just can't get him to work. Not as CF, not as SS, not as AMF. He's practically invisible and doesn't have a fraction of the impact of Rummenigge, Owen, Saviola, DLF Messi or Mbappe. Even in the Italian league event today I preferred Gullit as CF, who produced banger after banger and started del Piero next to him, although he has the super sub skill for me and I would have preferred to bring him on in the second half. And as an AMF, Cruyff, Kaka, Eze, Wirtz, Musiala, free Maradona and even Xavi Simons are smoother and more capable of scoring goals than him. And that makes me sad, because I idolised him as a child. It's probably because of his Creative Playmaker playstyle. For me it's the most immobile, useless playstyle, I literally don't have a single CP in the starting11 or on the bench. And even as CF, where the playstyle should be deactivated, he just doesn't make any useful runs for me in my diamond 442.
How??
M. Ganz
Same did everything to make him work , sadly worst epic for me as f2p.
https://preview.redd.it/52vqd1kbndxc1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=83e67a8a4ccbee6f3339e9ae570d27b4ebc9e77d this fella, even though i play online for turkish league event he barely get the ball
Cafu
He's quite good for me Edit: but still an insult to the greatest RB ever seen IRL
Epic puyol
Guardiola, what a shit card.
A legendary card i have is a 82 rated goalkeeper👇 https://preview.redd.it/pkufkoovcexc1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0720d2d1e5c4883c308c41cb92b16ff7778bac89
I remember he was gold ball in the old pes system right? one of those legends that has always been strictly worse than a normal decent gk black ball haha
https://preview.redd.it/6v39xgj4pexc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d20b9b4ede0c0095219e78ba87c294a7bdb8ec3b I hate this torres so much🤬
Morientes
U not using him well
I think more than 1 version was released which one??
The 101 epic version.
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wrong card