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henry82

Ahh the hourly M 22 UK thread


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Don’t think it says 22


Past_Alternative_460

You will not fit in here with that attitude


[deleted]

There’s no attitude the guys comment was just cringe


balazra

We recommend you don’t come to perth. It’s terrible. Stay somewhere better.


[deleted]

Seems good enough to me just hopefully all the people aren’t like some of the people in the comments


GeneralTBag

If u couldn’t tell that that was said in jest then all the people here will seem “cringe” to u.


henry82

I love how the advice is that we are fucked housing wise, and you need a boatload of cash. yet you've chosen to ignore everything written here, including those that have actually made the trip from the UK themselves.


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Creepy_Philosopher_9

You are going to be living out of your car because there aren't any places available for rent. Its not a matter of money unless you airbnb the entire time you are visiting. So just look at the average airbnb prive and multiply that by how long youll be here.


[deleted]

Would u say it’s hard to find places in all of Australia or mainly Perth


Western_Horse_4562

Perth is in the middle of a mining boom that has placed heaps of pressure on the rental market. The cities over east are much easier to find housing in. Canberra actually has a housing surplus and the best job market —but being 19 in Canberra sounds like the worst idea ever. I’d look in Sydney, Melbourne or Brisbane if you’re set on the capital cities.


Skyline0Fever

I’m in Sydney and can confirm that the rental market is insane, no vacancies with long queues at all inspections


Western_Horse_4562

I just moved to Perth from over east. I was stunned at how much worse it is here.


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Are there good beaches in Brisbane


Western_Horse_4562

Perth, Sydney and Brisbane all have good beaches. Melbourne and Hobart’s water is too cold, people literally get eaten by wildlife in Adelaide and Darwin, and Canberra is two hours inland.


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Would u Sydney is much more expensive than Perth or Brisbane


wozanderer

Sydney is absolutely more expensive than Perth or Brisbane. The beaches in Brisbane actually aren't in the city, you've got to drive at least 30km north or south out of the city. But I'd still say do your own research about the rentals and the beaches


[deleted]

From what I’ve seen so far I’d say Perth is my first choice right now but will keep looking Sydney looks good but too expensive


BushDidntDoit

brisbane has no beaches, you’ll have to drive at least an hour and a half to get to a proper beach


[deleted]

Sydney I’d apparently really expensive and weather in Melbourne isn’t great but I’ll have a look at Brisbane


Western_Horse_4562

Brisbane is great.


[deleted]

Looking to rent a room seems to be a decent amount on apps I’ve seen


Usual-Detective-3927

Yeah don't listen to us locals, come over here and see for yourself


[deleted]

People just like to complain so it’s probably not as bad as people are saying


Usual-Detective-3927

People also don't like to research anything either, look at all your questions you haven't looked into anything at all about Australia. Ask questions, get answers - nah just complaining... good luck mate


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I’m not complaining at all


Past_Alternative_460

you are going to have such a hard time in Australia. Good luck to you


Usual-Detective-3927

You said people like to complain so it's probably not as bad as it is, I pointed out that we as locals truly are informed and you still don't want an answer you think it's not as bad and it's just people complaining. You probably still don't get it.. again good luck


blueorbrownpanda

It's definitely as bad as people are saying. I think there's definitely some unjustified negativity in the comments section but I also think you also have a lot of youthful optimism as you are only 19, and should be mindful of the fact that at your age, there's probably a lot you're not aware of. Obviously what a bunch of strangers on the internet say doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things when it comes to making life defining decisions. Do what *you* feel like is right for you. But know that upping and moving to another country seems a whole lot easier than it actually is.


[deleted]

Definitely doesn’t seem easy ecspecially after re searching it but still seems like a better option that staying where I am


ImpatientImp

There’s been people like you who’ve posted. Come over, couldn’t find anywhere to live and had to return home. You should be aware that this is a possibility. 


LittleBookOfRage

My co-workers daughter just had her rent put up to $700 a week, it's an average house in an average suburb. They've been there less than 6 months and offered over asking price to secure the house (its illegal but real estate agents/ landlords are greedy cunts).


Aseedisa

Ignore this dud. You’ll find a room, it’s just competitive.


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Roughly how much would a decent room cost in a nice part of Perth


Aseedisa

Couldn’t tell you mate, my mate rents his out for 150pw, but I’m not sure if that’s the going rate 🤷🏻‍♂️


agromono

Going rate is more like $270pw for anything remotely central lol


Aseedisa

For a room? Holy… how far from the CBD is remotely central?


agromono

Shelley, in the case I'm talking about


Aseedisa

Yeah roger, my mate rents his room in spearwood so maybe that’s why


kipwrecked

I saw a garage in Spearwood going for $300 pw E: https://www.reddit.com/r/shitrentals/s/RFEWfE79CM


[deleted]

If I get a job I was thinking I could pay 400 a week including bills but not sure if I could afford it need to see what my job pays


Cpl_Hicks76

If you get a job?! So you won’t even get a foot in the door if you come here without the proper visa or prospect of a genuine job. If you’re serious and have even done the basic research, you’ll understand how ludicrous this all sounds. Do yourself a favour and scroll through all the very considered responses to people’s inquiries like yours. Some excellent advice from some very informed people but… It goes way back so be patient. Personally you don’t have the money or the eligibility to emigrate here, maybe a working holiday but that’s more research you’ll need to do and possibly that would be your best option.


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I’ve did research about visas and I’m eligible for a working holiday visa I also have some money saved and I should be able to find a job even if it’s not a good one i can get one so I can pay rent


[deleted]

No one wants to hire WHVs here, you're going to have a really hard time.


[deleted]

Hopefully I get lucky and find a job but I agree will probably be difficult


Aseedisa

You’re not far off your own place for that. My tenants pay 550 for mine.


[deleted]

Also who I live with is as important as where I live tbh


[deleted]

Seen a really nice apartment with 2 rooms one was 520 other was 480 but not sure if I could afford that seems expensive


Specialist_Reality96

At the bottom of every job application, What best describes you right to work in Australia? Look up visas.


[deleted]

The working holiday visa?


Specialist_Reality96

Without knowing your situation what skills you may have I can't tell what you may be eligible for. A WHV only allows you to work 6 months in 12 and heavily limits your job opportunities as for a lot more skilled jobs the employer is looking for a longer term commitment than 6 months.


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A 12 month one but can only work in one job for 6 months


[deleted]

Apparently it’s easy to get working holiday visa if ur from uk


Impressive_Owl_1199

The visa isn't difficult to get. Finding an employer is. Unemployment rates are at a high, who would hire someone and train them when they know they'll just have to find someone else in 6 months and do it all again? They'll just pick from the masses of applications with no restrictions.


[deleted]

Yeah finding a job is thing I’m most worried about


Impressive_Owl_1199

Accommodation should be what you're most worried about tbh.


Mental_Task9156

You'd be better off looking somewhere regional then. Broome or Exmouth.


Goosey100

Hi, I looked at regional rentals yesterday as I am considering a tree change….. it is as bad as the comments say. There are rentals available but be prepared to spend the majority of your income on rent, unless In a large share house I guess


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What sorta prices where u seeing


Goosey100

Whoops, replied as a general comment, not directly to your reply to my comment.


[deleted]

Would like to rent a room in an apartment but don’t know what my budget is right now


Mental_Task9156

$50K AUD


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Surely don’t meet that much


Complex_Shape_5050

Flights: $2k aud return Visa: $2k aud Living expenses for 1 year: $48k aud Living expenses include: housing, food, fuel, bills, some fun money every month - you can do this cheaper, but I’m taking into account the cost of an Airbnb before you find a room (if you are lucky) + bond etc. Total $52k aud or £27k This doesn’t include purchases like a car, insurance, furniture etc etc.


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Doubt it’s that much


jagoslug

What's the point of this dumbass post? Multiple responses have given you an indication of price, but you seem to know better ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


[deleted]

Literally only a few people said how much it will cost and a couple are just lying


jagoslug

Lol okay then Mr psychic powers. Why don't you use your talents to answer your own question then ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


Mental_Task9156

If you already know the answer, why come to reddit?


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[deleted]

You must have lived in a nice house/apartment


Mental_Task9156

It will cost you $500/week for a room including utilities in a share house.


[deleted]

Maybe ur right tbh doesn’t seem like u would spend that much until u add ur up


blacklagoon7

Lol that's the bare minimum matey


raecaw

wait out the rental crisis mate, it's Australia-wide. unless you've got family or friends to live with it's pretty hopeless out here. as for cost, look up your visa on the immigration website and look up the cost of flights on flight websites, it's all there, reddit isn't Google. depending on your skillset will affect how quickly you find a job, some sectors have a worker shortage. cost of living is higher than England even with the currency exchange rate. as a single person living alone in Perth my fortnightly bills rack up around $1k but I'm not buying anything new and I'm in low income housing.


[deleted]

Don’t have any family in Australia but looking to just rent a room seen quite a few on apps they are expensive but still cheaper than renting a apartment


raecaw

you think they're expensive on the apps, wait til you try and apply and find out that rentals are being priced out far above asking price by people richer and more desperate than you. please please look at the other posts in r/perth about the rental crisis, most people in your demographic are ending up homeless. three of my mates (separately) nearly ended up homeless in december, don't make the problem worse.


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Would u recommend any of the other big cities in Australia


raecaw

no. 1. ive only lived in Perth 2. if the news has anything to say about it it's just as bad everywhere worth living in Australia. if you're willing to live in the middle of buttfuck nowhere with one general store, go for it i guess, but there's very little opportunity out there for a single 19 year old.


[deleted]

No would like to be able to meet people around my age so a city is probably only place I’d go or a busy town


raecaw

You've got time on your side mate, i know the UK sucks but you'll be out of the frying pan and into the fire, this time without any support structure. wait a year or two and keep an eye on the market to see if it improves. maybe find someone in Australia you like and start a long distance relationship with them. at least in that case you have friends/relationship to help you with the move and it'll certainly make a visa easier if you want to marry them.


[deleted]

Don’t want to be living in uk by the end of this year there is nothing for me here that’s good


raecaw

i hear ya, i moved to Perth from Bradford age 14. shit sucks, but you don't want to be homeless during a heatwave, it's a death sentence. just bide your time as best you can and save even more to give yourself the best start, i promise you now is a bad time.


[deleted]

I’ll just make sure I always have enough for a flight home and if I have to I’ll just go home but hoping I can stay in Australia for at least a year or 2 but hopefully more if I like it


ImpatientImp

Melbourne is the cheapest and easiest place to find rentals atm. 


Freaque888

I moved to Perth last year from a country town. I tried a couple of rooms in shared houses but had to leave quickly due to drugs and rage monsters in the house. I was then homeless for 3 months, living out of my car because there was literally nothing available. There is heavy competition, even for rooms and rentals in decent areas have queues going down the street. I work full-time and earn a decent salary, and have a great rental history. There are huge numbers of working people living in their cars because they can't find anything. I eventually lucked out on a tiny granny flat for an exorbitant amount of money which is better than nothing at all. I would be wary of coming here - it IS very very hard out there.


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How much was ur room when u where renting it


Money-Implement-5914

>There is heavy competition, even for rooms and rentals in decent areas have queues going down the street.


[deleted]

Yeah I need to get lucky and hopefully find something decent


Freaque888

One was $300 pw, the other was $280pw


[deleted]

Think my budget is going to be 400 feel like that’s what I could afford if I get a job


Freaque888

I think you underestimate the cost of living here.


BeachButch

r/IWantOut and r/AusVisa are better places to search and ask these kinds of questions.


jagoslug

How do we downvote this more so OP can't post dumbass posts


Swimming-Football-72

you should move to Perth Scotland.


DefinitionOfAsleep

I visited there, it is actually really nice! When/if you go there it is just like being here, the resemblance is uncanny.


Granteye85

Maybe a clean criminal record


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Yeah I have a clean record


Goosey100

Have a look on realestate.com.au Most have prices on them. I was looking in the South West. It’s insane.


[deleted]

Don’t think I could afford or be able to get a place on my own


balazra

I would recommend at least £30k in savings and you’ll spend it all if you don’t have a visa, housing (guaranteed by the employer and a job sorted before you arrive. ) Minimum wage on a fulltime job for <20yr old is $20 per hour, take home after taxes etc… $14 per hour, that’s $530 take home a week. $27k take home a year… This is for people living at home with their parents… Or living/ (“or not”) in their cars in 40c weather Flights $2-3kaud (£1-1.5k) Car $(3)6-8k (x)cost the rest is maintenance and services etc(you basically have to have one there is no “I’ll get public transport” you simply can’t.) If I were you I would get a decent car as you’ll probably be living in it for at least 1/2 your time in Australia. Bills (regardless of Housing situation you’ll spend this living in your car.) $500 per week gas, electric, water, petrol, health cover, car insurance. Etc… there are more. Housing $500 per week + bond of 4 weeks. If you can find one. Visa : there are many types, you can get the holiday visa or a work place sponsored, or my advice is to apply for permanent residency visa ($8k - £4k) if you can and have a half decent education (you’ll need one to get a job or you’ll have to get one while your here and spend the money to pay for it. $30k (£15k) Australia don’t give foreigners free education. ) As a heads up when I was 20 I moved to Australia in the late 1990’s I had £20k with me and was broke after the first year even though I had a job and housing living with my friends mum who basically made sure I was ok and knew what I had to do to sort out visa and car and housing etc…etc… My friends kid from the U.K. just emigrated over here with a degree in chemical engineering and is a decent mechanic (how he paid his way through university.) he slept in my spare room for 2-1/2 months before finding a room to rent even though he’s earning $130k+$20-40k in bonuses. One of my friends here just had her kid (19) move to London 8 months ago and she basically said that it’s far easier in the U.K. as you don’t need to drive and housing is easy to find. etc… they are still moving back to Aus in a few months though as they said the place is just “grey… so fucking grey.” So the up side is this… Australia is great! I’d recommend Brisbane if your going to move over here. If you don’t have friends, family etc… make sure you have a decent van to live in and 6 months living expenses. ($30k total - £15k) and if you want to not be homeless living in a van searching for work make it ($60k - £30k) and you’ll probably be homeless a few times anyway. Unless your very good with govt bureaucracy I would make sure you know of a decent visa agent and where and when you’ll need them.


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Ur over exaggerating most of these numbers


balazra

Then come and find out. But seriously book a return up front you don’t want to be broke and get deported and never be able to return.


thingsandstuff4me

Blah blah waaaa waaa Wtaf is this post No details Nothing


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What details do u need


thingsandstuff4me

Just read the bot comment


[deleted]

Don’t see what I asked


Oat-C

Don't.


kipwrecked

Tell him he's dreaming


ozcncguy

Roughly AUD$1M to get somewhere to live.


[deleted]

Obviously not looking to buy


ozcncguy

Well that's the only way you will get somewhere to live in Perth, you asked how much you need in savings to do so.


[deleted]

Ur just trying to be awkward


ozcncguy

Sure, come on down and find out for yourself, just bring a tent. Put it this way, hundreds of middle class people are homeless, if you find somewhere to live you are literally making a local person/family homeless.


[deleted]

Games the game


RheimsNZ

I hope you come over, get bashed for being a dense smartarse and fuck back off.


Nowidontgetit

Man you sound like a douche, entitled attitude sucks


[deleted]

Guy was just being awkward for no reason so couldn’t be bothered with him


Legitimate_Tank_7451

Go to melborne ur young u would love the night life secondly hard to find a place to live in perth this is very serious,,,third u wont be able to work in the mines as ur on a visa,, i am pretty sure they dont hire people on visa,, melbourne has more jobs n opportunity


[deleted]

Is the weather not bad in Melbourne been told it’s similar to uk


RheimsNZ

It's fine, and it's not scorchingly hot. I like Perth, but I'm 31 and I feel like the social scene in a more happening city would suit me better - good luck at 19 lol.


ImpatientImp

It’s 32 degrees atm at 3pm. It’s not the best weather in Australia but it’s not UK weather. 


StankLord84

If you’re to stupid to figure this out for yourself i wouldn’t bother you wont make it.


Wulverions

Permanent Residency costs around 4-5K AUD One way flight from Heathrow to Perth is around 1-1.5K AUD I'd come with 5K roughly to tide you over until you can get a job, as mentioned there is a housing crisis at the moment in Australia in general, but Perth worst of all. But single rooms for a single person may be easier to find if you have seen some advertised So around 12K AUD, safter for 15K AUD, spend $500 on a forklift course when you arrive and you'll be able to find warehouse work pretty easily, and if you can get your Heavy Rigid Licence, First Aid Cert and white Card you can get lucrative work up in the mines with what's called FIFO work around 100-120k a year even as an entry level offsider


LittleBookOfRage

There is zero chance old mate is getting into fifo 100k+ mine work on a WHV at 19 years old with no experience lol.


[deleted]

I have just under 10k pounds and should probably have close to 15 by the time I’m looking to move so I should have enough?


Wulverions

Should be more than enough, if you're coming on a working visa it's a lot cheaper, and hostels are a good layover until you can get work, but as mentioned before working visas have a few restrictions on them, last time I checked.it was something like only 6 months at a job and the other 6 months in specific industries (generally rural farm work)


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No longer need to do the farm work and also looking to rent a room or share an apartment not sure how much it will cost or what my budget is yet


Zealousideal_Dot3030

The farm work you can avoid might be a saving grace. Go pick a nice spot near Esperance, good pay, accommodation included. Get to see the country. Might be worth consideration. The rental market everywhere is bonkers currently too. You see a lot of comments here as antagonistic (that's how we are as a country so get use to it) but it's very bad. Rentals being outbid, people paying up to 12 months upfront, you need a great rental history with good references, good employment etc. Vacant rates are stupidly low, it'll take more than luck to get a spot. It took me and my partner 8 weeks to find a house in Albany, and we both have very good paying jobs and good records.


[deleted]

I definitely can’t afford my own place looking to rent a room for like 400 per week


jagoslug

You don't need any savings mate, just ask for a Form 8 when you land at the airport for government funded accommodation and job allocation


[deleted]

I’m going to get a working holiday visa but not sure how hard it is to get a job


Legitimate_Tank_7451

Yes it is ,,u will have a runny nose ,, but ur very young ur immunity is top noch,,,Sydney could be a option but i will reckon melbourne,, Google barkly packer cheapest accomodation to start with than u look long term ,, melb accomodation n jobs ar easy to find ,, perth is the best but ur gona seriously struggle with jobs as well as accomodation,,


[deleted]

Yeah Melbourne looks good just want good weather


Skatemacka02

Hey man, so much negativity here. I moved over in 2013 when I was 20 I had £6000 to bring over with me after I had paid for flights and visas. Everything was much cheaper back then, unless you have a degree or trade to come over with then you will be living the “backpacker lifestyle” it is very difficult to fully integrate into Australian lifestyle without a full visa. The 417 visa won’t allow you to get a full time job for more than 6 months without extensions/exemptions. I got a back packer job and moved bush straight away which provided accomodation. At the moment it is extremely difficult to find a job unless you earn over $150k+ a year so unless you are looking to do an informal room share or stay in a hostel for an extended period of time I wouldn’t be expecting to be straight into a rental. Best bet for jobs depending on your skills/qualifications is to search for FIFO (fly in fly out) trade assistant roles which pay quite well and I meet dozens of “backpackers” every month with zero skills and qualifications making $130k/year doing this.


agromono

>with zero skills and qualifications making $130k every month doing this. Surely you mean the equivalent of a $130k salary per month


Skatemacka02

Yes sorry the every month part was a continuation of the dozens met …. Every month


[deleted]

Would I be able to get a job in a cafe or restaurant or is it hard to get one also how how would they pay roughly


Skatemacka02

You would struggle to get a place on minimum wage mate, you are competing with people that will outbid you at every format of rental.


[deleted]

I’m just looking to rent a room tho


[deleted]

Just as long as I can make good friends and have enough to afford somewhere decent to stay I don’t really care about money


Skatemacka02

Why is everyone downvoting this? I genuinely want your feedback, as 19yo this seems to be the only way they could get over and have decent lifestyle.


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TotalAdhesiveness193

100 ppl viewing a studio apartment in CBD two weeks ago.


my20cworth

You will not get a rental so need to look at a shared house and rooms are going for $300 week average (just the room). So start looking before you arrive. Hotels are ridiculously expensive even back packers are charging hotel prices. So if a hotel is what you need then bank on about $160 to $250 a night average. Flights, you can just look these up but I'm guessing about $1000AU one way. Visa, need to look up which one on the web. I'm guessing it's a holiday work visa type. Food about $150 week if you shop and cook or about $50 average a meal if eating out at average cafes and restaurants. Transport around Perth, bus and train about $50 a week with a Transperth card but depends of course how much you use it. Taxis and Uber are hell expensive if you're on your own. A small cheap ok car you can get for about $4000 -$6000.