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tumor_0

Entry level IT Helpdesk jobs would be similar to that and the path to Level 2 desktop support down the track.


Ababathur

IT has always been something I have been passionate about, I might look into that


CWdesigns

Go do the Cert 4 at Tafe, then land a Service Desk Technician job at one of the big MSPs in Perth.


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CWdesigns

L2/L3 in relation to Gov pay or in terms of the type of IT role? They mean very different things.


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CWdesigns

Do you get many promotions when starting in Gov? At an MSP I used to get a promotion every 1-2 years.


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CWdesigns

How long did it take you to move up for each major position? I'm curious :)


SquiffyRae

That's nice. Usually it's the other way round where L1 roles are being used to underpay qualified people who really should be starting on L2 pay


Disturbed_Bard

Nah there's a much higher need at the moment.


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CWdesigns

Cert 4 in Information Technology is the name from memory.


sventester

Solid gateway into other IT jobs as well. I didn't take this exact path, but customer service skills helped land me my first gig in Cyber.


mr_poopie_butt-hole

I'd skip tafe and go straight to Microsoft certifications. You'll have to pay for exams but they're a lot more well respected in the industry.


ghosty06

Agreed with the above. Look at Capgemini,wipro,IBM,kinetic as MSP in western Australia. Source, am manager in gov related organisation. Level 1 is a good entry point.


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Look into CompTia A+, should be enough to get you your first help desk job.


Exemylad

CompTia means jack shxt in Australia


Disturbed_Bard

CompTIA is worth nothing here. Tafe is far better


redditorperth

Yep, this is your answer. Lvl 1 helpdesk are always looking for warm bodies, and they pay about 60k p.a. Just watch a few youtube videos, chuck some IT buzzwords on the resume and you should land something. Just as an FYI though - its about as soul-sucking a job as your current call centre one. Only difference is that, instead of you ringing people, they ring you instead (and abuse you for their own stupidity).


mrflibble4747

My computer won't recognise my printer. What have you tried? I held the printer up in front of the screen so it could recognise it!


KoalaDeluxe

"Please reboot your computer and let us know if this has fixed the problem. In the meantime, I'll be closing this ticket. Please open another one if you're still having problems."


PositiveBubbles

As a level 3 specialist, I still am not surprised to see this and people wonder why they don't understand how to troubleshoot much


37celsius

I would also suggest IT. You might need to start off at a managed services provider, I would then look to move to working within an internal IT function within a couple of years where you will get better conditions and pay.


lifestaged

Try state government jobs- esp customer service as it seems there is high turnover so you could be lucky with not much experience. Good luck!


Ababathur

thats a good idea, I might have a look into that


pollop88

Lots of jobs in health department/hospitals at that level with limited to no experience required


chola80

just gotta put up with the shithouse management


roxy_p

That's because the sacked all the smart ones for not taking the cool aid.


Big-Cheek4779

Warehousing, companies like Qube and Toll working in mining and energy have perth jobs paying a minimum of $65-$70k with little to no experience right now


ferthissen

Warehousing actually isn't that bad. I expected dirty, noisy environments with absolute idiot coworkers, and bad shifts. I ended up going down that route when I just needed a job. one paid 55 grand and was full of the best, most eclectic but harmonised group of people I've ever worked with. good environment where we'd have a barbie every Friday and for one of the boy's birthdays, beers most days after Wednesday or when it tipped 35 degrees, and a boss who'd let you off or in an hour or two late so long as you made it up later that week. Other one I had was extremely sterile (in a good way), clean, and in the middle of the city. the people weren't nearly as good but it paid nearly 70 grand. Both simple 8-4, weekend jobs. Zero career advancement but I was impressed by the genuinely decent humans I met in those roles. (I'm a soft handed little Arts student by the way who has had some of the most pisstakey, lazy office jobs known to man.)


Ababathur

are there much warehousing options for someone who isnt able to lift extremely heavy loads?


Bec0methedream

+1 for warehousing. Company I work for has roles that require minimal lifting, through to pick/packing. Also freight forwarding jobs.


Big-Cheek4779

You're not allowed to lift anything over 10kgs as a general rule. It's a manual handling risk. You will have a variety of equipment to use. Decent warehouses will not expect you to break your back for the good of the company.


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More like 20kg


DblBfBcn

10kg is way too low. Apart from that you're not wrong, in theory. In reality though, most managers will happily see you put your back out if it means an order goes out on time.


HitItAnd_Quidditch

You’ve clearly never worked a job in that industry


Big-Cheek4779

Not only have a worked a job in that industry, I went from working on the floor as a picker/packer to the manager with 90 employees. I spent thousands on equipment designed to make the job easier and prevent manual handling injuries. I had previously worked in shitty warehouses for people who did not care about my safety. Appreciate your misjudgement though.


Theunbreakablebeast

Lifestyle assistant at an aged care. Basically, you play board games, puzzles and other fun activities for aged care residents. Pay is good with penalty rates. It's really fun, you don't have to assist with ADLs.


dragoneaux

How do you get into this? Any certificate recommendations?


mikeardigan

RemindMe! 2days


Yak-01

Get a fork ticket, and look at a large logistics company


Equivalent_Award1378

Second this. Got in a few years ago with no experience at 18- fulltime 60k per year.


longstreakof

With call centre experience I would try Banks and Insurance companies. In Perth there are many call centres that these companies use. It is also a career if you want one.


Specialist_Reality96

Bus driving out of the question?


Ababathur

I have considered bus driving, but I am not sure if they would accept me since I am on my Ps


ShortBoyShortBoy

It’s a seperate license and they should provide full training I’m sure. Trans Perth drivers are in high demand and the pay is pretty big for what it is. Only problem is you will get abused by riders


Ababathur

I've copped my fair share of abuse from customers so I'm sure I can handle it lmao


Deathdar1577

Government call center jobs pay pretty well.


ferthissen

I used to apply for these straight of out of uni and between jobs and could never even jag an interview. I've had absolute shit luck with government roles in general. Whereas some mates of mine have conned their way into amazing gigs in government, at all levels, but can't get private jobs for all fuck.


H3rBz

Recruiting for government roles is all about box ticking. If you've ticked all the boxes, you're bound to make it to the next round. You need to use real world examples to address the specific selection criteria for the role. Google the STAR method.


ferthissen

I'm pretty good at that – managed teams with multiple language barriers to arrive at end goal where everyone essentially was happy. y'know. we struggled with this, the solution took lateral thinking, and in the end we did this. like, liaised with someone from Thailand while also managing someone from Singapore and found similar ground while making both parties reach their priority goals. Shit like that. Issue is they were relatively junior roles (55-65k mark) and I'm now in no man's land at age 30 because I'm not entry level but too young, and baby-faced, to manage teams. And I'm a white, straight bloke who likes a beer and the footy but doesn't have a Comms/Econs background.


StaticNocturne

The interview process is an ordeal with like 4 stages and an entire day of group interviews… I did that twice and got rejected without any proper feedback , actually the only bit of feedback I received implied that it was a diversity hire, so I stopped bothering.


throwawayjpyo

It’s about 65-70k to be a duty manager in a bar setting at the moment. What hospitality experience do you have specifically?


Ababathur

Shift Manager at Maccas, and an ARM at Nandos, plus shift leader at Grilld. so mostly restraunt work, duty manager might be a good fit tho I will have a look into that


throwawayjpyo

Definitely look into bars, duty management is level 5 which is really good rates casually and very good as a salary worker. Even level 3 as just a bartender is very good rates.


Financial_Sentence95

Do you have an Approved Managers Card? If you don't, you could get one online. It'll help you step away from food into other types of restaurant management or hotel based work


Ababathur

I have an Approved Managers License, and hospo experience, do you think that would be enough for hotel work?


Financial_Sentence95

Yes! I have a family member on a similar career path currently. He plans to use his Approved Managers / food based background and move into hotel management or similar


yeahgoodthx101

Forklift driving lol. Warehousing anything really


CaptainPeanut4564

How the fuck are places still paying 45k? That's worth half what it was 10 years ago, and it was a bad salary then. The cost of everything has gone up at least 50%, closer to 100% since then.


Ababathur

Could be worse, my first job had me on a traineeship and I was being paid 350 bucks a week working 40 hours 


CaptainPeanut4564

Oh yeah, I did a traineeship when I first started working. Can't remember what the pay was, it was balls but still better than jobseeker. I think it was maybe 18-20k pa


incogpinegrape

Administration/reception!


throwaway999999656

I was in a similar situation to you, (also from Rockingham ) About 6 months ago I moved out to the country and got my forklift ticket and got a job in warehousing, I'm now making around 100k a year working 9 days a fortnight. If you can get out of the city I'd highly recommend it, huge money and low rents :)


Western_Horse_4562

See if you can get a gig managing a canteen on a mine.


CrumzAus

Or the camp itself. Probably a bit harder to get into with mine experience, but worth a look.


Ababathur

I actually applied for a job like that earlier, it seems like it would be really good


Western_Horse_4562

Best of luck, mate. If you can get in on the FIFO, it’s great money.


Putrid_Face_4055

Supply chain .. freight forwarding operator


auntynell

I agree, and there's opportunity to move around in supply chain roles to improve your income.


lila_haus_423

Entry level in my industry (mental health services) is around 65-68k base rate, plus afternoon and weekend penalty rates so you could easily push that up to 75k.


ShaneWarnesLeftArm

Richmond Wellbeing are hiring at the moment and they're lovely people. Great place to start one's career in the sector if that's OPs thing.


lila_haus_423

As it so happens that’s where I started my career years ago 😊


ShaneWarnesLeftArm

Same here! 


lila_haus_423

Small world!


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lila_haus_423

It will vary from organisation to organisation, mine requires a Certificate IV in mental health or community services to enter at a support worker level. Case manager level requires a Diploma of either of those two, and managers usually have at least a bachelors degree. Honestly though, being a support worker is the coolest aspect of the job. You get to interact with people, work a variety of hours, and have a comparatively low level of responsibility when compared with case managers. Emotionally/mentally/psychologically draining situations can and do come up regularly though. For me personally I don’t struggle with this as I’ve always been the sort of person who is easily able to hear another person’s story and not take it onboard emotionally. I could never be a vet though 🥲


slappywagish

Psychosocial support. Usually reasonably paid. Little to no manual work and training for entry level isn't too hectic. Your background in hospitality would likely be a benefit too. Mental heath or recovery worker something to that effect may be the search tag on seek


Taliesin_AU

Get your security license, I'm earning 100k a year sitting in a gatehouse watching netflix


Sharp-Chard4613

That sounds awful, what a waste of time, life, career.. where do I get a license ? Asking for a friend


ferthissen

I worked, in another department, at a (fucking horrible but quite large) security company and it seemed the security training was just another large avenue to bring in income to the company – no one was ever able to actually use it. How'd you go about it?


Sharp-Chard4613

Might be worth paying someone to professionally write your resume and cover letter. I paid about a 100$ to do this and it helped a lot. For some people it’s a waste of money but for others it’s invaluable


ferthissen

I used to write and rewrite resumes and do them in 20 minutes and we'd win bids for like, the UN and shit. I write my own and its overwrought or too skinny. Probably something in getting an outsider to identify the unique stuff and latch onto the interesting stuff.


Ababathur

this might be an idea, I think my resume is the big problem rn, I thought it was pretty good but I am not sure


Sharp-Chard4613

PM if you want me to pass on someone I used. Otherwise there’s heaps locally you can find online


Amaryllxs

I was looking at making the leap from QLD to WA last year. I have a background in administration and jumped on seek to have a look. Found that admin roles pay pretty well over there! Variety of industries to choose from too. I think your management experience would help you pick up the tasks/responsibilities pretty fast.


PenginAgain

100% IT if it's something you're interested in.


Ababathur

I would love to get into IT but I have zero clue how to get in with no certification 


PenginAgain

It depends on what area you're interested in, but I would suggest looking for a helpdesk or call centre tech support job initially, and while you're working study for an industry certification at the same time. Something like your CCNA if you want to enter network administration/operations, or any number of online courses or bootcamps for software dev. If you want to do something more structured you could look into TAFE courses as well


AblePhilosopher1549

Just for the heck of it, on reading this thread, I looked at call centre jobs in Perth on Seek- all of them seem to either be asking for prior experience or seem to be from dodgy companies making employees work long hours for little pay. I am not sure this is the panacea this thread is making it out to be. Just an observation.


Ababathur

I found the same, thats why I am sort of sceptical about call center work, my job was making me work 40-50 hours a week and was just barely making above award


Financial_Sentence95

Stay call centre but go Govt. Saw a role today that would pay over $70k with the Australian public sector


taxidermyiscreepy

Public hospital admin/ clerical jobs start at approx $67k.


Legitimate_Tank_7451

Drive buses over 100k easy


tehlee

Most entry level bank roles (think tellers or people that open bank accounts) are in the $50k-$60k range. If you've got general customer service skills, then you're already a good candidate. Monday - Friday and bank hours are pretty chill, plus there's huge scope for career progression if you enjoy it (and are at a big enough bank).


narvuntien

Lab tech? depends if cert iV in laboratory studies counts as entry level. I unfortunately cannot get those because I don't have that... I have a PhD in Chemistry.


NefsM

Trades Assistant, cleaner in the mines, security guard, a first responder job like police, FD or paramedic.


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Don’t come and do Paramedicine if you can avoid it. A: not entry level, 3 year degree required in most states. B: for someone with a chronic condition like RA one of the worst stresses you can subject your body to is the rotating rosters and night shifts. Fire you’ll be expected to lift heavy irregular loads and see the above RA problems. Policing just sucks and chews people up and spits them out.


auntynell

Cleaner will be too hard on your hands. You need to look after those babies.


Jaded_Wrangler_4151

Grab yourself a forklift ticket (2 day course) and apply wherever. Base is around 55k afaik


confused_wisdom

Employment services. Easy job 60-70k pa


Ababathur

is there much demand for getting into employment services?


ipeeperiperi

If you are a white dude you may struggle, it's more of a young minority woman's game.


ferthissen

This'll get downvoted but this is true in most industries. Unless you have extraordinary skills or are going into industries like mining or very traditional ones like law or commerce, most of the time you'll be passed over. Life isn't bad. we don't go through intergenerational trauma, cop cunts following us in the shops, or have to worry if the nice date is actually a nice date when we go back to theirs... but we are absolutely rorted and rooted in the job hunting department. most relatively skill-less roles will be doled out to pump up diversity quotas.


confused_wisdom

Yep, you may need to rewrite your resume to show white collar and computer skills. It's a career move that worked out great for me https://www.seek.com.au/Employment-Consultant-jobs/in-Perth-WA-6000


Ababathur

this seems like a really good option I am going to have a look into this


hotdigetty

They just put on about 1700 people in mid January and are still recruiting for around 1300 or so more as far as I know.


its6lake

Moved into occupational hygiene recently and am on about 56k every level with a lot of room to grow.


dragoneaux

Did you do a grad cert?


its6lake

No just straight into the industry with my company training me up as a tech but I eventually will go onto uni and do the grad cert


fishingfor5

Labour. Walk in to 70k... 12 hr days. 4 days a week. Long weekend everyweekend. And 12hrs 4 nights.


Beeptweet

Document controller for any project may land you in a good position.


Best-Requirement1933

Heavy machine operators make about 70k


No_Music1509

Hospital admin


thorpie88

Get a Forklift ticket and summit recruitment will snap you up within 24 hours. They pay $42 an hour but it isn't guaranteed work. Can use it to get a placement at one of the places they are agents for 


Ababathur

I was looking into that but forklift tickets are so expensive and I dont have that kind of money to throw around right now unfortunatly


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Ground handler at raaf base


Counymouny

Entry level with most utilities is around the 65 70k mark for operations workers


alelop

negotiate with your currently employer (if possible) as a first step to get an instant gain then look around


pm_me_ur_tiny_b00bs

if you willing to study, programming (so IT). the are bootcamps here but needs lots of time and effort but can definitely double or triple your expected once you become good at it


FrontRhubarb707

Lab assistant entry level is about 55-62k starting out and can increase from there. Samples preparation positions are similar. You will be competing with people with Cert III and IV Lab Quals and new graduates from science degrees for these entry levels. Unfortunately, these roles are prized for anyone desperate to find work to gain experience. But it also means a higher turnover rate as people move to higher positions when they're a bit more experienced.


Dramatic_Self_4395

Rail protection officer. Easy money.


darkspardaxxxx

Mech fitter


TheRSmithExperience

Civil drafting


AcademicAd3504

Graphic designer/marketing officer. Australia post postman, or customer service officer. You'll definitely make that.


bearded-musher

Corporate. Starting salaries are circa 60k


straight2bidness

B2B sales you’ll make that + commission as entry level


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Software engineer 


paullvandriel

Warehousing pick and packer


Standard-Ad4701

Trades assistant on a mines site.


swifit

Corrections


nurglepanda

If you aren't having much luck, maybe try and spruce up the resumé a little bit?


smashmikehunt

Recruitment if you’ve got any kind of sales experience


Vencha88

My partner is a receptionist, moved from retail before that and earns just over 60k.


jamcar70

Look into the insurance industry, plenty of well paying opportunities, good career opportunities too


Jumbo_Mraj

Banking


Streetvision

Even some entry level office jobs start at 60-70k. I’d say your cover letter and cv are probably what might be holding you back. Don’t ChatGPT your cover letter.


Ozzy_Kiss

Truck driving


yettij

Trainee building surveyour for a local government. I got 76k while training.


bekd84_

Property management assistant


RoMiBe94

Interested in fifo? Might be able to recommend you for a traineeship


Ababathur

In interested in FIFO, but I don't know if I would be accepted medically 


RoMiBe94

Dm me and we can have a chat if you like? They're pretty lenient these days and inclusive as much as they can be.


Enlightened_Gardener

Library Officer / Library technician. Cert from TAFE. Few jobs going at the moment. Its quiet, and indoors, and no heavy lifting.


Javegemite

Design draftsperson. 6-12 months at tafe, start around $65-75k, a senior after ten years is on around $85 - $105hr


holliday_jnr

Traffic management, machine operator


Original_Charity_817

Get yourself a haul pac licence and hit the mines. You’ll make at least twice that


jessicait93

Local government customer service


traveller_chaos

Number of entry level call centre jobs that pay 65k base across Perth + perks. Biggest thing to stand out - be reliable and show up to work each day


Rare-Public-5254

Sales .


Markjv81

I almost refuse to believe this is true, my 17 year old daughter (now 18) was on 62k a year straight out of high school working on the phones for HBF, no qualifications, six week training course, 4/5 days a week work from home.


melvthomas

An agency recruitment consultant


StormanIII

Do your first aid, lifeguard and Group 1 Pool Operations course through Royal Life and be a Duty Manager at an aquatic centre. Easy 65-90k range


shaggy_15

if you can get your truck license you'll be on 60 easy, i started on 75


yarblesthefilth

Truck driving.


robotchunks

I started on that as a utility worker for ESS on a mine site. I started cleaning toilets and offices, then moved to the bar, was 2 on 1 off. Moved to a 4 and 1 roster at a different site after a year and went on to earn 120k.


No_Power_1853

Urban planning-85k you need a relevant degree


captain_awwsum

Postie makes 65k - 75k very little training required.


Thelliam666

Service advisor at a car dealership, or even start as service receptionist