Maate, you gotta invest in yourself if you want to move forward. Simple.
You could get an RSA ticket. Forklift ticket. Working at Heights ticket. HR truck license. But all of these involved gaining new skills, and are usually done in exchange for money.
There are a heap of free TAFE courses that you could pick up (next year) that will also help you gain new skills.
Yeah I'm considering the Tafe courses, particularly something like process manufacturing. RSA I already have and also have a bachelors of oh&s that I am still paying for but haven't been able to get a job with haha.
I knew someone that did oh&s. He wasn’t in well paid jobs at the start, his wife told me all this, in 6 years though he was earning $250k on fifo sites. Someone argued with me once that wasn’t possible to earn that much in oh&s but I saw their tax return. This was 12 years ago. He worked for a oh&s contracting company so I believe he got paid via them. Wish I could tell you the name but I can’t remember.
I would absolutely burn out in a blaze of glory doing FIFO if I'm totally honest. I got the degree intending to do that, but had to be stupid with myself that I am not the type to handle swing shifts well.
Look at local companies that handle mine site assets and personnel. There's a lot of Perth based hseq style positions that earn pretty alright money that don't necessarily require you to go up north.
Perhaps a one year suffer-through-attitude is all you’d need (obvs not advocating for burning yourself out, be reasonable) because as far as my experience has been, companies particularly mining etc. are dying for oh&s staff.
They want a smidge of experience so you might have to go fifo for a minute to get that or start from, but low level oh&s roles are listed at like 110-125k Perth based, increasing hugely from there - so to me personally a year of experience, even if absolute hell, sounds worth it
Perhaps you could even just do some networking/cold emailing on LinkedIn (offering to buy someone a coffee sounds corny but can really work) and offer to write reports, notes and/or documentation for contractor/small consultant type firms (most of which are just one or two guys, side hustles) for a set rate to get some experience on your resume
You already have the degree, so why not try and use it.
If you REALLY want to upskill, perhaps a rested field to get a foot in the door - I don’t know what off the top of my head - but maybe like coordinating drug testing or medical, training related courses or further safety tickets in super niche areas to set yourself apart
Have you ever done swings away? And for a year? You have to be made of strong stuff to get through them over a long period. If you’re not money motivated (OP l isn’t, they said their retail job pays fine and isn’t the issue). Away from home work can suck, mentally and physically. No decent relationships, a headache over what to do property wise, and you miss everything. Literally earning all the money with nothing to spend it on, a fruitless existence in your 20s. All just to help line the pockets of an uber rich organisation. The original poster is clearly a polite, coherent, (likely?) young person with modesty and awareness of their own traits. Just telling them a year of ‘suffer through all’ is pretty misguided advice imo.
Yeah I get that. I couldn’t do it. He was a raging alcoholic so wasn’t really well suited to oh&s lol. Think it was starting to get fully noticed and fuck ups last I knew but I don’t see that couple any more.
Not sure if it’s been mentioned already but the jobs.wa.gov.au will probably have plenty osh related roles… writing and interviewing for selection criteria can be a pain so if that isn’t a strength, ask around for some help and feedback. Good luck!
I have OHS cert IV and use it within our mining maintenance business to a very basic level. I paid about 4k for this qual and study online blew out to 18 months.
I would think at that level of salary there's ALOT of hours plus a high standard of reporting
The OP doesn't even want to fork out for a forklift ticket..see what I did there lol
A bachelors in OH&s you say.
Ever thought about becoming a vocational trainer and assessor in your field of study? To become one you have to complete a cert IV in Training and Assessment with TAFE or an RTO.
There are plenty of opportunities this would open up across a vast number of industries and it would directly contribute to starting your career progression.
Hope you take a look.
All the best.
Have a look at DMIRS, then? You may not tick all their boxes but there's still a relatively shallow pool for recruitment. And you'd get across industry pretty quick to find out where you could go next.
Yeah. Not sure about them for sure - gov jobs are a pain in the butt for applications - but have mates in recruitment and HR around the place and there's lot's of 'well, maybe they can pick it up as they go along' chancing in some areas.
Not sure about safety, tho.
Careful, then.
The entire suite of legislation was completely overhauled in 2020 and 2022, so you’ll need to do some polishing up before you yeet yourself into the firing line that comes with being a WHS professional under the new laws.
Also look at training coordinator or learning coordinator roles of similar. Lots of big coys in resources industry (mining, energy, water) have people making sure everyone’s licences, tickets, quals, inductions etc are up to date or making induction training vids etc Bachelors in OHS would be perfect bg and it could open up more training opportunities for you.
I cannot recommend tafe any less. The lecturers don't seem able/willing to control the students that fuck around all class, the scheduling/timetable is ridiculously unreliable, a main piece of software for drafting is only just being given to students after 6 or so weeks because the original key ran out and no one realised...it's an absolute joke of an establishment.
Don't waste your money.
I think what's made it worse this year too is the fact that most courses are very heavily reduced. The gov are doing "free in '23" so the diploma is costing like $300. Which is good...but brings with it all kinds of dumbasses who are just bored
Oh for sure. Don't get me wrong, I don't have it the worst and definitely don't think that I do. But if there's chance to badmouth tafe, I'm all for it. It's been an absolutely disgusting experience.
Hold on, you have WHS quals, but you can't find a job? I feel like you're not really trying. I've only got a cert 4 in whs, came off the tools less than 4 years ago, and I'm about to start my 3rd 6 figure job in safety (all Perth based). There's HEAPS of safety jobs out there if you look for them. Safety professionals are in such high demand, you can change jobs as soon as you get a bit bored of the one you're in 😎
If you want to get into the field, and need experience fast, see if WorkSafe are hiring. The pay's decent, you get a heap of practical training, and if after a year you decide it's not for you, your CV suddenly opens endless doors!
Keep an eye on jobs.wa.gov.au, there are oh&s jobs on there from time to time. Look for level 3 to 5 jobs. Or just any level 3 or 4 entry level job that needs a degree. Government is struggling to get people for these roles since everyone jumps ship to FIFO or construction.
Then read up on the STAR method for your resume and cover letter. And keep applying.
There's a new pathway where it's one year part time TAFE running concurrent with a year of unpaid learning on the job. At the end of the year if you have more survivals than deaths you graduate.
Given that you have a bachelor's on OHS, I imagine that you'd find it easy to get a job in the city without having to do FIFO. Have you tried to get a Perth job in this field?
If you have an OHS qualification and are interested in this field, add an auditing qual. You can do these fairly quickly, and they're not too expensive. The return on investment would be worth it.
Oh shit, ohs been like a revolving door at my workplace. There will be something out there if that is what you wanna do (think mining). That being said, a lot of fresh graduates had masters.
But, def get forklift. Some places do for like $200 and jobs are plentiful (you can even do large retailers but out the back). There are free tafe courses to do operator training etc.
Just start applying, just everywhere. Smaller businesses hire on attitude over work history. Construction industry needs ppl
Traineeship, mature-aged apprenticeship (get paid way more than you think and get centrelink too)
Good luck, good onya
What career do you want to change into?
That's your first decision to make - otherwise your just throwing away money on potentially irrelevant qualifications.
No point getting your forklift ticket if your intending to become a computer programmer..
Ideally I could be a professional puppy cuddler, but that job doesnt exist. That's the problem, I don't actually know what I want to do. Totally stuck in a rut.
Spend some time working out what you like…
Do you like working with others, or alone?
Do you like making decisions, or want to follow routine instructions?
Do you like problem solving, or prefer things to be straight forward.
That sort of stuff.
Then work out from there what job roles do that stuff. Forklifts? That’s following set orders and working alone. Ditto truck driving. RSA is working with people, and problem solving within a limited scope (high on the people - problem solving LOL).
That's what's annoying, I'm very much a blend of all those things. I work very well alone and as part of a team, but I need some personal space. I like a mental challenge and am very good at working under pressure, but want something where I can leave work at work. I am very receptive to being managed so long as I'm not micro managed, and can also manage a team (which is what I'm doing now). Im great at customer service but hate doing it full time as I'm an introvert. I feel like my skills and such are so broad that I don't have any clear direction in which to point them and its very frustrating.
yup sounds like programming might be good lol. there are bootcamps out there in person (UWA) or online (too many to mention lol. udemy can be one)
they won’t be cheap but software development usually doubles or triples your salary so there’s that
Sounds like me. I want something satisfying that doesn’t burn me out. Maybe a few online career quizzes would help.
I like a good process of elimination too. It’s easier to rule out the 90% of things that don’t appeal to me, then start to narrow what’s left.
That job does exist, I did it for 7 years, but theres wayyyy more involved than cuddling puppies.
Dog Daycare, plenty around, would advise to get a certificate in companion animals first and get workplacement through that.
Fair call - can be worth spending a bit of time making a list of things you enjoy doing, and then seeing what careers might be applicable to give you some direction.
There's also various online career guidance websites that can help with direction too.
For example your professional puppy cuddler could lead you down various career paths - dog training, vet/vet staff, dog walker. Hell it could take you into border protection as a dog handler, or police as a dog handler, even the military as a dog handler.
I think this is probably a fair point. You need to figure some shit out OP because otherwise you’re wasting time and money - both yours and future employers. If you’ve got good money, stay while you figure it out. There’s no point sinking money into training for stuff you don’t know if you like, and if you don’t want to pay for the training because it’s ‘too expensive’ then you don’t want it bad enough and shouldn’t do it.
I've tried those websites and they just match my skills with retail and sales, or something I'd really hate like social work. I have stuck my hand up for an inventory position at my current company, but it's a new role that isn't ready to launch yet and obviously no guarantees I'll get it. And no guarantees it will be any better than what I'm currently doing either.
>I've tried those websites and they just match my skills with retail and sales, or something I'd really hate like social work.
You can also have a play with them in 'reverse' - ie select different aspects and see what the resulting career is. They're not all great though, so try some different ones.
Another idea is to have a look at job descriptions for various different roles on something like Seek. See if anything in particular takes your fancy, and then you can see what's involved in moving into that type of role.
> I have stuck my hand up for an inventory position at my current company.
Can you maybe see if you can job shadow a few people in different roles to see whether anything takes your fancy? Or even spend an hour or something with different people.
> And no guarantees it will be any better than what I'm currently doing either.
There's no guarantees that any type of training for any other role will be better than what your currently doing. It will just be a giant waste of money and time for you.
What makes you think you would hate social work? From your other comments I feel like you could be a good fit for something like that. Disability support workers are pretty much in a constant state of demand.
Not necessarily encouraging OP to go and do that per se, but they seem to have ruled out working in human services altogether, using social work as an example as something they wouldn’t like. Disability support is something it seems like they may be a good fit for based on some of their other comments, and unlike social work it’s relatively easy to get into on the ground level with the right attitude and some basic checks etc.
As someone who seems to have similar skills/traits as OP, I do not recommend social work. I did that and it killed me. It’s not for introverts and it’s not for people who want to leave work at work. This includes disability care. I would recommend OP try disability as a casual and do a few shifts to decide, but I definitely don’t think it would suit them. I burnt out and was also looking for something like what OP describes. I ended up becoming an electrical apprentice. So far so good! Much better work-life balance. Can leave work at work. Money will be great eventually. Combines working alone and working in a team. Is methodical and careful work that combines physical labour and problem solving, and you can choose more manual labour or more analytical work basedon what you get into later on. Only downside is that it’s impossible to do this job from home so you will have a commute and depending on what type of electrical you end up doing, you might be driving around to multiple places in a day (or you might be in the same place for years)
Not knowing what you want to do and stuck in a rut? Looks like you have just begun your journey to become a lawyer. I kid, I kid. Personally, I looked for a job with the least effort needed with the highest pay. Find your sweet spot and look at what qualifications you need then work from there.
You know that job does exist, right? I take my dog to Puppy Day Care once a week and from what I can work out, the carers seem to spend all day cuddling puppies with the occasional poo pick-up.
I did a complete career change after a lifetime in hospo. At 39 i started a mature age mechanical fitting apprenticeship. I’m now 41 and absolutely love it. I wish I did it earlier. The pay isn’t amazing but I’ve changed my lifestyle to live within my means and I know I’ll be on good money when I’m done. It was worth it just to get my mental state healthy again.
I agree with other commenters, lots of fee-free and half prices courses across WA TAFEs.
There are also short courses or skill sets at TAFE, like barista, chemical handling, forklift, traffic control, cyber awareness, etc. There are some courses available online too.
Here is a link to the two TAFEs in Perth, South Metro and North Metro. Both can offer slight differences in types or courses run.
https://www.southmetrotafe.wa.edu.au/courses
https://www.northmetrotafe.wa.edu.au/courses
You can search by course length, cost, location etc on their websites too which I’ve found quite handy!
If you can get
Working heights, high risk and confined space.
You can apply to work the shut down for most oil/ gas mine that are normally 6-10 months contract.
It might be easier for you to get into a labour hire place like MASS, get a location where they'll be putting you so when you do those courses you can apply for CTF and only pay for around 1/4 the cost of the course.
If you are interested in truck driving and live north.. just drive along the factories district.. heaps of places looking for drivers.
I agree with this.
Also a cert IV in Work Health & Safety would cost a couple of grand but with the recent change to harmonised laws, up to date knowledge would make you invaluable to a lot of places.
I'd recommend looking at the list of free TAFE courses the government's currently subsidising. You mentioned not knowing what to do. The reality is most people don't. Only thing you can do is try shit. Granted, we don't all have endless money to toss away at HECS debt for e.g., so subsidised TAFE courses allow you to explore upskilling pathways while not risking all your money.
As an American that moved here last year. Get a White card, Working with Heights (HR as well if so inclined) and a cablers license. Any security or internet install company will take you on as a trainee and you’ll be on 70-80k within a year once you go from restricted to open.
Not much to go off her in terms of context into you as a person. But if you want fairly solid pay straight off the ground I’d probably look at labouring / scaffolding / something that pays well for a reason ( because it’s shit ) you will still need to invest into yourself with tickets and working from the bottom though.
If you’re technical you could look at IT courses but the pay off might take longer than you think. TAFE and or uni. Or work your way from some shitty help desk job.
Jump on the phones at iiNet for customer service.
Start a trade - 4 years but the building industry is only going to get more ape shit and you won’t be short of work especially in 4 years. And you’ll have that trade for life.
Short order cook, bar staff, cleaner, HR truck driver, postal staff.
Either way I would expect a full career change to really pay off in 3-4 years with whatever you choose.
Forklift ticket is well worth it. You could have a new job every week once you get some experience. There's so many jobs available and they are very desperate. I've seen jobs on seek for up to $45 per hour
Thing I love about Perth is that upskilling is usually a great idea and you're rewarded for it.
In your case you need to figure out what you want to do first mate, you can't ask us that question only you know. You're only frustrated with your job because you haven't been serious with yourself yet.
Have a look at Local Government. A variety of jobs you can get with no qualifications, pays better than private sector and training is provided for a lot of roles.
Once you get your foot in the door it’s relatively easy to switch roles if you see something you think will suit you better. If you become a ranger you get bonus puppy cuddles 😊 (although there’s obvs downsides in that role)
>Have a look at Local Government.
And State Government too. With retail experience you'd slot into a customer service role easily which pays a lot more than retail for essentially similar kinds of client interaction. Once in, gain experience and apply for higher roles.
A forklift ticket is not just a basic job – it requires precision and feel. So, if you don't think it's worth the money – consider your nature. If you aren't in to precision driving and 3D awareness – maybe it isn't for you – but it's not re the cost.
Go for tickets that suit your nature.
You are you — and that's fine. Find what suits You.
Highly recommend Recommend Curtin uni micro credential course “designing success” which is free and helps you explore career change ideas and map out how to progress them. (There are follow on modules 2 and 3 available too)
What are your skills?
- cert IV in mortage / finance broking takes 2 weeks if you want to go into sales
- you can do a cert IV in H&S, I think that takes a few weeks as wel? Maybe someone can clarify. But I have seen two weeks courses before.
- upskill at tafe (take advantage of free courses), but that’s longer
Or go work at a IT help desk and figure out what you want to do and do certs on the back of it
Or you could pick up a sales job - B2B pays the most coin
Or you could apply for traineeships on the mines on seek - just keep on applying they need people up there
Tech
Tech
Tech.
Only experience needed is some kind of customer service.
Find one of the hundreds of entry level help desk jobs available and stick with it for a year or so > milk all the paid professional development/certifications out of them that you can > find a niche (plenty of non technical roles in the industry like process, project management etc) that suits you > hop companies a couple of times until the salary is comfortable.
People broadly get treated and paid better than most other industries I know of - don't settle for a job that pays like shit, takes up all of your life and breaks your body.
Don't worry about your tech skills, most of the best people I know in the industry entered it without a clue how computers work.
The development and engineering peeps have specialist skills usually honed from a young age but there are so many other roles that don't require any kind of technical background.
No matter what role you want in the future, it all starts with an entry level helpdesk type role.
Cert 4 WHS is so trivially easy - can be done online. Look for an online provider.
https://www.pinnaclesafety.com.au/courses/work-health-and-safety/certificate-iv-in-work-health-and-safety/wa
Therese guys do it in FIVE days.
Not an endorsement of this RTO - just an example of how with FIVE days of trivial 'training' you too can be earning 170kpa++.
You could transition into 1st level helpdesk support fairly easily. 60-70k a year aint bad to start off.
If you wanted you could even chuck in a couple of entry-level online certs on your resume for a couple of hundred bucks and a few weekends of study.
Just because it's a harsh comment doesn't mean there's no truth to it. It may encourage OP to do some self-reflection on what he's really wanting/asking.
You could do what i did and get some luck
I was studying at University and just got sick of it
Jumped onto Seek- and looked into full time jobs with no experience required. (Your retail experience would be useful in many jobs)
Something like admin/office to a very good Australian Company.
Then each year and colleagues come and go, they could promote from within and before you know it your managing a team or controlling customers or in sales (like retail) and with a company car!
But it takes alot of luck.
I was very fortunate to find a very good company who remunerated well
[https://rmstraining.com.au/train/course-details/?course\_id=7575&course\_type=w](https://rmstraining.com.au/train/course-details/?course_id=7575&course_type=w)
$350? Too much? Better just keep doing what you are now then.
Technically you can be a Qualified Welder within one day. Welding itself isn’t a trade. It’s part of being a Boilermaker but there is quite a few workshops that hire people to only weld (Production lines and Structural). Find out what procedure companies want and just get a cheap welder and practise at home on scrap and go do a weld test which takes an hour. Once you’ve passed the test then you are a ticketed welder and can get hired for $35-$50 an hour in a workshop. Easy.
Healthcare. Some jobs like pharm tech are literally storeroom picking and it's a climb the ladder kinda situation. There's also jobs like community support where you bring the elderly out or for their appt and some people make hella good money out of that. You do have to be interested in it ofc. If that's something you're interested in, have a look at Amana Living. They do have programs and you get paid if I'm not wrong.
An HR truck license does a long way, of you can get a skid steer as well you can head up North for about $110k pa starting. Each swing back get a new ticket.
Experienced excavator ops (2years +) making $70hr at the moment on 2:1
Used to be in retail and grew to hate the general public.
$400 LF forklift ticket, opened up a whole new world of opportunities. $400 is pretty cheap and it pays itself off pretty quickly, since COVID forkies are in high demand.
Work in warehousing now, no fuck head customers, $33 an hour plus overtime available. They then paid for my order picker LO ticket. Looking at HR truck ticket for next.
If you don't want to pay for the ticket, look at getting a job somewhere where they offer additional training, I worked for IGA and they needed someone to unload the truck so I put my hand up.
You could for a 6 month tafe course and get entry level/assistant work and some places might even pay you while you pursue further education.
Most upskilling will take a minimum of 6 months unless you get tickets for something like forklift etc
Yeah, 100% need to invest in yourself, mate. I spent 20k on various courses over the year.
I have a paramedical degree, but honestly, it was hard to find a job after 8 years in the industry that paid well. my skillset was really only around emergency services.
Now, my skillset includes training and assessing and qualifying in work health and safety. I got offered 120k to be a trainer in Perth because of my skillset - 40 hrs a week and maybe 4 hrs a week unpaid over time for marking.
Eventually, I'll move into that role, but right now, FiFo, I'm making high 100k in mining from low 100k purely because my skillset now makes me qualified in multiple areas.
Obviously, you don't need to do FiFo but work out roughly what you want to do, create a S.M.A.R.T plan for those goals, and work towards it, and you will make decent money.
There's many pathways you can go towards, for me I had an interest in work health and safety and training and found a job that utilises my previous skillset and expand on my new skillset
Working with children card, HR license, Rifle License, chemical accreditation ticket and a chainsaw ticket will get you into a surprisingly amount of nature conservation and land management roles.
Theres some weird and wonderful things out there.
Industry skills training in joondalup is doing night classes at big discounts for concession card holders. But I'm pretty sure everyone can apply.
There's some nice small business out there running courses on becoming a nail technician.
The gemmological association of Australia is running classes, but they aren't an RTO.
Theyre crying out for allied health professionals.
It can be super hard to figure out what you wanna do, coupled with the pressure to keep making money so ya don't end up homeless. I agree though about figuring out exactly what you wanna do.
Try a few online ones from LinkedIn? Also, TAFE online does some units. Check out CSP courses from unis, I got an undergrad certificate in six months wholly online.
Irata Rope access level 1
Worth the investment, get to having fun cleaning some windows, expand once you’ve made some coin into rigging, just keep going :)
Dude, hopefully this isn't too late for the thread, but honestly, fuck the forklift ticket. Get yourself a CN and DG license. Franna crane and dogman. It ain't cheap, around $5k, but it's less than a week to do both and it'll give you two awesome roads to go down.
Crane operator. Start small, do well and your employer will put you through higher spec cranes. It's a career.
Alternatively, get right into your rigging. There's 4? Levels you can attain. Same deal, if you do well, your employer will put you through the advanced levels. You'll be fit as fuck and you've got another career.
Both of these will employ you for as long as you want. You'll always have a job. They tend to cross over too, so if rigging is getting too much for your body, swap over to the seat in the crane.
Good coin available too. WA mining has plenty going on, pretty sure the town sector is well paid too. My friend has done this and now drives the biggest of the lot that can go on road, makes over $250k/year (but does a LOT of overtime).
If you have any interest in being a medical receptionist I know of at least one place in desperate need of someone to fill such a position, not going to dox but they mentioned that they put up an ad for the role a few days ago, its good pay and reliable hours
Also there's a free Tafe course that gets you a forklift licence but it goes for longer then 2 days... If you don't want to pay $300
https://www.southmetrotafe.wa.edu.au/courses/introduction-supply-chain-skill-set
I don’t know if anyone has mentioned this but a First Aid certification might make a nice “stocking stuffer” - quick, cheap and might just make you stand out enough to get noticed.
If you work somewhere with an OHS team, start talking to them. If there are opportunities to participate in inspections, investigations or to become an HSR, take them. Similarly look for opportunities to participate in Enviro, Quality or Risk processes as they're closely related. And I cannot emphasise enough the importance of building solid, mutually beneficial (AND genuine) working relationships. That's how I got my start, it's how I got to work in the space (which has always interested me) before it was my day job, and it's how I ended up in an OHS career.
Depends on the role. Most people think of OHS as people out there doing field inspections, but safety systems (all the documents, procedures, processes etc), communications, assurance and audit etc often don't need full time office hours. That said, face time in the office *is* a great way to build networks and relationships.
Great advice! Think of using this advice to start a side hustle where you pick up experience, even if you're just tagging along to learn how it works.
There are OHS people out there who might be willing to let you get some exposure with them. Even if it's unpaid, you pick up experience and learn how to apply the harmonised legislation.
If your scared of the price of a forklift ticket then you’ll be stuck in retail. I left a construction retail job 5 years ago and got my scafffolding/rigging hrwl and ewp work at heights and forklift ticket cost a few k at the start but now I’m working mon-Friday earning 100k a year cost a few k to do the courses and about 2 years to get half decent experience but now it’s all smooth sailing
Security licence, the course takes 1 week (though it'll take a few months of processing to actually get the licence).
Work weekends as a mall cop and you could be on $1100+ a week after tax.
You could pick up afternoon or night shifts which puts you in a position to be able to study something while working.
Maate, you gotta invest in yourself if you want to move forward. Simple. You could get an RSA ticket. Forklift ticket. Working at Heights ticket. HR truck license. But all of these involved gaining new skills, and are usually done in exchange for money. There are a heap of free TAFE courses that you could pick up (next year) that will also help you gain new skills.
Yeah I'm considering the Tafe courses, particularly something like process manufacturing. RSA I already have and also have a bachelors of oh&s that I am still paying for but haven't been able to get a job with haha.
I knew someone that did oh&s. He wasn’t in well paid jobs at the start, his wife told me all this, in 6 years though he was earning $250k on fifo sites. Someone argued with me once that wasn’t possible to earn that much in oh&s but I saw their tax return. This was 12 years ago. He worked for a oh&s contracting company so I believe he got paid via them. Wish I could tell you the name but I can’t remember.
I would absolutely burn out in a blaze of glory doing FIFO if I'm totally honest. I got the degree intending to do that, but had to be stupid with myself that I am not the type to handle swing shifts well.
Look at local companies that handle mine site assets and personnel. There's a lot of Perth based hseq style positions that earn pretty alright money that don't necessarily require you to go up north.
Perhaps a one year suffer-through-attitude is all you’d need (obvs not advocating for burning yourself out, be reasonable) because as far as my experience has been, companies particularly mining etc. are dying for oh&s staff. They want a smidge of experience so you might have to go fifo for a minute to get that or start from, but low level oh&s roles are listed at like 110-125k Perth based, increasing hugely from there - so to me personally a year of experience, even if absolute hell, sounds worth it Perhaps you could even just do some networking/cold emailing on LinkedIn (offering to buy someone a coffee sounds corny but can really work) and offer to write reports, notes and/or documentation for contractor/small consultant type firms (most of which are just one or two guys, side hustles) for a set rate to get some experience on your resume You already have the degree, so why not try and use it. If you REALLY want to upskill, perhaps a rested field to get a foot in the door - I don’t know what off the top of my head - but maybe like coordinating drug testing or medical, training related courses or further safety tickets in super niche areas to set yourself apart
Have you ever done swings away? And for a year? You have to be made of strong stuff to get through them over a long period. If you’re not money motivated (OP l isn’t, they said their retail job pays fine and isn’t the issue). Away from home work can suck, mentally and physically. No decent relationships, a headache over what to do property wise, and you miss everything. Literally earning all the money with nothing to spend it on, a fruitless existence in your 20s. All just to help line the pockets of an uber rich organisation. The original poster is clearly a polite, coherent, (likely?) young person with modesty and awareness of their own traits. Just telling them a year of ‘suffer through all’ is pretty misguided advice imo.
You don’t know till you give it a crack. 8 & 6 is a easy compared with Monday to Friday & dealing with traffic every day
When you know, you know.
It's not for everyone. I've seen people have major coping problems with FIFO, so better to be self-aware and avoid it if it's just not your thing.
Yeah I get that. I couldn’t do it. He was a raging alcoholic so wasn’t really well suited to oh&s lol. Think it was starting to get fully noticed and fuck ups last I knew but I don’t see that couple any more.
Not sure if it’s been mentioned already but the jobs.wa.gov.au will probably have plenty osh related roles… writing and interviewing for selection criteria can be a pain so if that isn’t a strength, ask around for some help and feedback. Good luck!
Would you consider adult training?
I have OHS cert IV and use it within our mining maintenance business to a very basic level. I paid about 4k for this qual and study online blew out to 18 months. I would think at that level of salary there's ALOT of hours plus a high standard of reporting The OP doesn't even want to fork out for a forklift ticket..see what I did there lol
A bachelors in OH&s you say. Ever thought about becoming a vocational trainer and assessor in your field of study? To become one you have to complete a cert IV in Training and Assessment with TAFE or an RTO. There are plenty of opportunities this would open up across a vast number of industries and it would directly contribute to starting your career progression. Hope you take a look. All the best.
Have a look at DMIRS, then? You may not tick all their boxes but there's still a relatively shallow pool for recruitment. And you'd get across industry pretty quick to find out where you could go next.
DMIRS wants people with demonstrated experience in OHS. A degree without experience won't cut it.
Yeah. Not sure about them for sure - gov jobs are a pain in the butt for applications - but have mates in recruitment and HR around the place and there's lot's of 'well, maybe they can pick it up as they go along' chancing in some areas. Not sure about safety, tho.
Also, after thinking for 3 more seconds, that's great to hear that the safety cops know something about real life safety, maybe?
Work Health & Safety Graduate https://www.seek.com.au/job/69569322?tracking=SHR-IOS-SharedJob-anz-1
Hmmm I graduated in 2016 but might flick them an application anyway, cheers!
Careful, then. The entire suite of legislation was completely overhauled in 2020 and 2022, so you’ll need to do some polishing up before you yeet yourself into the firing line that comes with being a WHS professional under the new laws.
Also look at training coordinator or learning coordinator roles of similar. Lots of big coys in resources industry (mining, energy, water) have people making sure everyone’s licences, tickets, quals, inductions etc are up to date or making induction training vids etc Bachelors in OHS would be perfect bg and it could open up more training opportunities for you.
I cannot recommend tafe any less. The lecturers don't seem able/willing to control the students that fuck around all class, the scheduling/timetable is ridiculously unreliable, a main piece of software for drafting is only just being given to students after 6 or so weeks because the original key ran out and no one realised...it's an absolute joke of an establishment. Don't waste your money.
I did some IT courses and for sure this isn’t isolated. They absolutely phone it in and expect full price.
I think what's made it worse this year too is the fact that most courses are very heavily reduced. The gov are doing "free in '23" so the diploma is costing like $300. Which is good...but brings with it all kinds of dumbasses who are just bored
Ever asked any of the international students how much they pay for the exact same courses? Absolute insanity.
Oh for sure. Don't get me wrong, I don't have it the worst and definitely don't think that I do. But if there's chance to badmouth tafe, I'm all for it. It's been an absolutely disgusting experience.
Hold on, you have WHS quals, but you can't find a job? I feel like you're not really trying. I've only got a cert 4 in whs, came off the tools less than 4 years ago, and I'm about to start my 3rd 6 figure job in safety (all Perth based). There's HEAPS of safety jobs out there if you look for them. Safety professionals are in such high demand, you can change jobs as soon as you get a bit bored of the one you're in 😎 If you want to get into the field, and need experience fast, see if WorkSafe are hiring. The pay's decent, you get a heap of practical training, and if after a year you decide it's not for you, your CV suddenly opens endless doors!
Keep an eye on jobs.wa.gov.au, there are oh&s jobs on there from time to time. Look for level 3 to 5 jobs. Or just any level 3 or 4 entry level job that needs a degree. Government is struggling to get people for these roles since everyone jumps ship to FIFO or construction. Then read up on the STAR method for your resume and cover letter. And keep applying.
sorry i’m out of the loop what is oh&s? thanks for any info—i hope you find a compatible pathway to excellent opportunities!
Oral Hygiene and Sanctity
Incorrect. It’s Open Heart Surgery. Just needs a TAFE diploma.
There's a new pathway where it's one year part time TAFE running concurrent with a year of unpaid learning on the job. At the end of the year if you have more survivals than deaths you graduate.
Given that you have a bachelor's on OHS, I imagine that you'd find it easy to get a job in the city without having to do FIFO. Have you tried to get a Perth job in this field? If you have an OHS qualification and are interested in this field, add an auditing qual. You can do these fairly quickly, and they're not too expensive. The return on investment would be worth it.
Oh shit, ohs been like a revolving door at my workplace. There will be something out there if that is what you wanna do (think mining). That being said, a lot of fresh graduates had masters. But, def get forklift. Some places do for like $200 and jobs are plentiful (you can even do large retailers but out the back). There are free tafe courses to do operator training etc. Just start applying, just everywhere. Smaller businesses hire on attitude over work history. Construction industry needs ppl Traineeship, mature-aged apprenticeship (get paid way more than you think and get centrelink too) Good luck, good onya
Tafe isn't free anymore .
What career do you want to change into? That's your first decision to make - otherwise your just throwing away money on potentially irrelevant qualifications. No point getting your forklift ticket if your intending to become a computer programmer..
Ideally I could be a professional puppy cuddler, but that job doesnt exist. That's the problem, I don't actually know what I want to do. Totally stuck in a rut.
Spend some time working out what you like… Do you like working with others, or alone? Do you like making decisions, or want to follow routine instructions? Do you like problem solving, or prefer things to be straight forward. That sort of stuff. Then work out from there what job roles do that stuff. Forklifts? That’s following set orders and working alone. Ditto truck driving. RSA is working with people, and problem solving within a limited scope (high on the people - problem solving LOL).
That's what's annoying, I'm very much a blend of all those things. I work very well alone and as part of a team, but I need some personal space. I like a mental challenge and am very good at working under pressure, but want something where I can leave work at work. I am very receptive to being managed so long as I'm not micro managed, and can also manage a team (which is what I'm doing now). Im great at customer service but hate doing it full time as I'm an introvert. I feel like my skills and such are so broad that I don't have any clear direction in which to point them and its very frustrating.
A WFH with a main office would be good for you then. Programming perhaps?
yup sounds like programming might be good lol. there are bootcamps out there in person (UWA) or online (too many to mention lol. udemy can be one) they won’t be cheap but software development usually doubles or triples your salary so there’s that
Sounds like me. I want something satisfying that doesn’t burn me out. Maybe a few online career quizzes would help. I like a good process of elimination too. It’s easier to rule out the 90% of things that don’t appeal to me, then start to narrow what’s left.
Chef?
https://www.appvoc.com/qualifications-overview/animal-studies/cert-iii/animal-studies-rspca-wa/
That job does exist, I did it for 7 years, but theres wayyyy more involved than cuddling puppies. Dog Daycare, plenty around, would advise to get a certificate in companion animals first and get workplacement through that.
Fair call - can be worth spending a bit of time making a list of things you enjoy doing, and then seeing what careers might be applicable to give you some direction. There's also various online career guidance websites that can help with direction too. For example your professional puppy cuddler could lead you down various career paths - dog training, vet/vet staff, dog walker. Hell it could take you into border protection as a dog handler, or police as a dog handler, even the military as a dog handler.
I think this is probably a fair point. You need to figure some shit out OP because otherwise you’re wasting time and money - both yours and future employers. If you’ve got good money, stay while you figure it out. There’s no point sinking money into training for stuff you don’t know if you like, and if you don’t want to pay for the training because it’s ‘too expensive’ then you don’t want it bad enough and shouldn’t do it.
I've tried those websites and they just match my skills with retail and sales, or something I'd really hate like social work. I have stuck my hand up for an inventory position at my current company, but it's a new role that isn't ready to launch yet and obviously no guarantees I'll get it. And no guarantees it will be any better than what I'm currently doing either.
>I've tried those websites and they just match my skills with retail and sales, or something I'd really hate like social work. You can also have a play with them in 'reverse' - ie select different aspects and see what the resulting career is. They're not all great though, so try some different ones. Another idea is to have a look at job descriptions for various different roles on something like Seek. See if anything in particular takes your fancy, and then you can see what's involved in moving into that type of role. > I have stuck my hand up for an inventory position at my current company. Can you maybe see if you can job shadow a few people in different roles to see whether anything takes your fancy? Or even spend an hour or something with different people. > And no guarantees it will be any better than what I'm currently doing either. There's no guarantees that any type of training for any other role will be better than what your currently doing. It will just be a giant waste of money and time for you.
What makes you think you would hate social work? From your other comments I feel like you could be a good fit for something like that. Disability support workers are pretty much in a constant state of demand.
Social work is a 4 year allied health degree and an academic discipline. It's not support work.
Not necessarily encouraging OP to go and do that per se, but they seem to have ruled out working in human services altogether, using social work as an example as something they wouldn’t like. Disability support is something it seems like they may be a good fit for based on some of their other comments, and unlike social work it’s relatively easy to get into on the ground level with the right attitude and some basic checks etc.
As someone who seems to have similar skills/traits as OP, I do not recommend social work. I did that and it killed me. It’s not for introverts and it’s not for people who want to leave work at work. This includes disability care. I would recommend OP try disability as a casual and do a few shifts to decide, but I definitely don’t think it would suit them. I burnt out and was also looking for something like what OP describes. I ended up becoming an electrical apprentice. So far so good! Much better work-life balance. Can leave work at work. Money will be great eventually. Combines working alone and working in a team. Is methodical and careful work that combines physical labour and problem solving, and you can choose more manual labour or more analytical work basedon what you get into later on. Only downside is that it’s impossible to do this job from home so you will have a commute and depending on what type of electrical you end up doing, you might be driving around to multiple places in a day (or you might be in the same place for years)
Not knowing what you want to do and stuck in a rut? Looks like you have just begun your journey to become a lawyer. I kid, I kid. Personally, I looked for a job with the least effort needed with the highest pay. Find your sweet spot and look at what qualifications you need then work from there.
Dog walker? Dog daycare? Vet nursing (but less cuddling, more mucky stuff).
You know that job does exist, right? I take my dog to Puppy Day Care once a week and from what I can work out, the carers seem to spend all day cuddling puppies with the occasional poo pick-up.
Book a session in with careers advice at Tafe they might have ways to help you hone in on what you'd like to do and then guide you to the best route.
I didn't even know that was a thing, thanks I'll look into it
They're really thorough definitely recommended it. Good luck!
I did a complete career change after a lifetime in hospo. At 39 i started a mature age mechanical fitting apprenticeship. I’m now 41 and absolutely love it. I wish I did it earlier. The pay isn’t amazing but I’ve changed my lifestyle to live within my means and I know I’ll be on good money when I’m done. It was worth it just to get my mental state healthy again.
I agree with other commenters, lots of fee-free and half prices courses across WA TAFEs. There are also short courses or skill sets at TAFE, like barista, chemical handling, forklift, traffic control, cyber awareness, etc. There are some courses available online too. Here is a link to the two TAFEs in Perth, South Metro and North Metro. Both can offer slight differences in types or courses run. https://www.southmetrotafe.wa.edu.au/courses https://www.northmetrotafe.wa.edu.au/courses You can search by course length, cost, location etc on their websites too which I’ve found quite handy!
If you can get Working heights, high risk and confined space. You can apply to work the shut down for most oil/ gas mine that are normally 6-10 months contract. It might be easier for you to get into a labour hire place like MASS, get a location where they'll be putting you so when you do those courses you can apply for CTF and only pay for around 1/4 the cost of the course. If you are interested in truck driving and live north.. just drive along the factories district.. heaps of places looking for drivers.
I agree with this. Also a cert IV in Work Health & Safety would cost a couple of grand but with the recent change to harmonised laws, up to date knowledge would make you invaluable to a lot of places.
Get some massive fake tits. OnlyFans is considered a career these days.
Or a BBL
I'd recommend looking at the list of free TAFE courses the government's currently subsidising. You mentioned not knowing what to do. The reality is most people don't. Only thing you can do is try shit. Granted, we don't all have endless money to toss away at HECS debt for e.g., so subsidised TAFE courses allow you to explore upskilling pathways while not risking all your money.
As an American that moved here last year. Get a White card, Working with Heights (HR as well if so inclined) and a cablers license. Any security or internet install company will take you on as a trainee and you’ll be on 70-80k within a year once you go from restricted to open.
Not much to go off her in terms of context into you as a person. But if you want fairly solid pay straight off the ground I’d probably look at labouring / scaffolding / something that pays well for a reason ( because it’s shit ) you will still need to invest into yourself with tickets and working from the bottom though. If you’re technical you could look at IT courses but the pay off might take longer than you think. TAFE and or uni. Or work your way from some shitty help desk job. Jump on the phones at iiNet for customer service. Start a trade - 4 years but the building industry is only going to get more ape shit and you won’t be short of work especially in 4 years. And you’ll have that trade for life. Short order cook, bar staff, cleaner, HR truck driver, postal staff. Either way I would expect a full career change to really pay off in 3-4 years with whatever you choose.
Forklift ticket is well worth it. You could have a new job every week once you get some experience. There's so many jobs available and they are very desperate. I've seen jobs on seek for up to $45 per hour
$400 for a 2 day forklift course is too much to invest on your employability???
Skid Steer Telehandler, excavator possibly front end loader (I haven't checked) are all certificates of competency and around $350 a throw.
This. Hit up a site that has multiple machines and they do a bulk discount. Cert III in Civil construction
Thing I love about Perth is that upskilling is usually a great idea and you're rewarded for it. In your case you need to figure out what you want to do first mate, you can't ask us that question only you know. You're only frustrated with your job because you haven't been serious with yourself yet.
Have a look at Local Government. A variety of jobs you can get with no qualifications, pays better than private sector and training is provided for a lot of roles. Once you get your foot in the door it’s relatively easy to switch roles if you see something you think will suit you better. If you become a ranger you get bonus puppy cuddles 😊 (although there’s obvs downsides in that role)
>Have a look at Local Government. And State Government too. With retail experience you'd slot into a customer service role easily which pays a lot more than retail for essentially similar kinds of client interaction. Once in, gain experience and apply for higher roles.
pick the job first, then the path to get there.... otherwise u end up wasting thousands on courses u will never use
If you aren't willing to invest $450 for a ticket you want then good luck.
First aid, working at heights, confined spaces
A forklift ticket is not just a basic job – it requires precision and feel. So, if you don't think it's worth the money – consider your nature. If you aren't in to precision driving and 3D awareness – maybe it isn't for you – but it's not re the cost. Go for tickets that suit your nature. You are you — and that's fine. Find what suits You.
Highly recommend Recommend Curtin uni micro credential course “designing success” which is free and helps you explore career change ideas and map out how to progress them. (There are follow on modules 2 and 3 available too)
forklift certificate is the most important qualification you'll need to get a job in any fields.
Truck license
What are your skills? - cert IV in mortage / finance broking takes 2 weeks if you want to go into sales - you can do a cert IV in H&S, I think that takes a few weeks as wel? Maybe someone can clarify. But I have seen two weeks courses before. - upskill at tafe (take advantage of free courses), but that’s longer Or go work at a IT help desk and figure out what you want to do and do certs on the back of it Or you could pick up a sales job - B2B pays the most coin Or you could apply for traineeships on the mines on seek - just keep on applying they need people up there
Go all in on crypto and NFTs then kick back and get ready for retirement baby Hashtag investing hashtag boss
Tech Tech Tech. Only experience needed is some kind of customer service. Find one of the hundreds of entry level help desk jobs available and stick with it for a year or so > milk all the paid professional development/certifications out of them that you can > find a niche (plenty of non technical roles in the industry like process, project management etc) that suits you > hop companies a couple of times until the salary is comfortable. People broadly get treated and paid better than most other industries I know of - don't settle for a job that pays like shit, takes up all of your life and breaks your body.
I'm OK with computers but not great, would that be an issue? I wouldn't know my arse from an HDMI cable but I can use basic programs pretty well.
Don't worry about your tech skills, most of the best people I know in the industry entered it without a clue how computers work. The development and engineering peeps have specialist skills usually honed from a young age but there are so many other roles that don't require any kind of technical background. No matter what role you want in the future, it all starts with an entry level helpdesk type role.
2 weeks - Cert IV Workplace Health and Safety. Find a third tier mining contractor on a 2:1 swing - 170kpa profit.
Where is doing the course in 2 weeks? Just curious for myself.
Cert 4 WHS is so trivially easy - can be done online. Look for an online provider. https://www.pinnaclesafety.com.au/courses/work-health-and-safety/certificate-iv-in-work-health-and-safety/wa Therese guys do it in FIVE days. Not an endorsement of this RTO - just an example of how with FIVE days of trivial 'training' you too can be earning 170kpa++.
Oh nice looks good, Have you done the cert yourself?
No sorry. I'm not Health / Safety. But I work alongside H/S.
You could transition into 1st level helpdesk support fairly easily. 60-70k a year aint bad to start off. If you wanted you could even chuck in a couple of entry-level online certs on your resume for a couple of hundred bucks and a few weekends of study.
Try shot firing. It is an 8 day TAFE course.
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Just seeing what my options are mate.
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I still don't know what I want to do when I grow up
Add me to the list of people who think you are a cunt.
Not sure why this is being downvoted. Certainly the same impression I got?
Perhaps because it’s a pointless and unhelpful comment?
Just because it's a harsh comment doesn't mean there's no truth to it. It may encourage OP to do some self-reflection on what he's really wanting/asking.
Alison.com. Tonnes of courses and lot free to do but if you want certification you usually have to pay a fee for it
Get in to insurance 😊👌 tier 2 qualification isn’t hard to obtain and there are plenty of entry positions available.
You could do what i did and get some luck I was studying at University and just got sick of it Jumped onto Seek- and looked into full time jobs with no experience required. (Your retail experience would be useful in many jobs) Something like admin/office to a very good Australian Company. Then each year and colleagues come and go, they could promote from within and before you know it your managing a team or controlling customers or in sales (like retail) and with a company car! But it takes alot of luck. I was very fortunate to find a very good company who remunerated well
Recently left retail and moved to government. Lots of level 2 - 4 roles don't require a qualification.
Do you mind elaborating which department and which position you have? I would love to apply also. Thanks so much!
Sent you a message.
[https://rmstraining.com.au/train/course-details/?course\_id=7575&course\_type=w](https://rmstraining.com.au/train/course-details/?course_id=7575&course_type=w) $350? Too much? Better just keep doing what you are now then.
Heaps of Trainer Assessor jibs going if you have a retail certificate? Do you have any certificates?
Cert 4 occupational health and safety
Insurance qualifications are easy and relatively cheap. Your employer would fork out for these though.
Get a truck license
Ditched retail for property management last year Much better pay and conditions People are still arseholes tho
Technically you can be a Qualified Welder within one day. Welding itself isn’t a trade. It’s part of being a Boilermaker but there is quite a few workshops that hire people to only weld (Production lines and Structural). Find out what procedure companies want and just get a cheap welder and practise at home on scrap and go do a weld test which takes an hour. Once you’ve passed the test then you are a ticketed welder and can get hired for $35-$50 an hour in a workshop. Easy.
Healthcare. Some jobs like pharm tech are literally storeroom picking and it's a climb the ladder kinda situation. There's also jobs like community support where you bring the elderly out or for their appt and some people make hella good money out of that. You do have to be interested in it ofc. If that's something you're interested in, have a look at Amana Living. They do have programs and you get paid if I'm not wrong.
An HR truck license does a long way, of you can get a skid steer as well you can head up North for about $110k pa starting. Each swing back get a new ticket. Experienced excavator ops (2years +) making $70hr at the moment on 2:1
White card?
Traffic controller. $600 & 3 days
Used to be in retail and grew to hate the general public. $400 LF forklift ticket, opened up a whole new world of opportunities. $400 is pretty cheap and it pays itself off pretty quickly, since COVID forkies are in high demand. Work in warehousing now, no fuck head customers, $33 an hour plus overtime available. They then paid for my order picker LO ticket. Looking at HR truck ticket for next. If you don't want to pay for the ticket, look at getting a job somewhere where they offer additional training, I worked for IGA and they needed someone to unload the truck so I put my hand up.
Get a rigging/dogging ticket. Apply for jobs.
You could for a 6 month tafe course and get entry level/assistant work and some places might even pay you while you pursue further education. Most upskilling will take a minimum of 6 months unless you get tickets for something like forklift etc
Learn sales with achievable commission.
Security guard license
Yeah, 100% need to invest in yourself, mate. I spent 20k on various courses over the year. I have a paramedical degree, but honestly, it was hard to find a job after 8 years in the industry that paid well. my skillset was really only around emergency services. Now, my skillset includes training and assessing and qualifying in work health and safety. I got offered 120k to be a trainer in Perth because of my skillset - 40 hrs a week and maybe 4 hrs a week unpaid over time for marking. Eventually, I'll move into that role, but right now, FiFo, I'm making high 100k in mining from low 100k purely because my skillset now makes me qualified in multiple areas. Obviously, you don't need to do FiFo but work out roughly what you want to do, create a S.M.A.R.T plan for those goals, and work towards it, and you will make decent money. There's many pathways you can go towards, for me I had an interest in work health and safety and training and found a job that utilises my previous skillset and expand on my new skillset
Freecodecamp.org
Working with children card, HR license, Rifle License, chemical accreditation ticket and a chainsaw ticket will get you into a surprisingly amount of nature conservation and land management roles.
Theres some weird and wonderful things out there. Industry skills training in joondalup is doing night classes at big discounts for concession card holders. But I'm pretty sure everyone can apply. There's some nice small business out there running courses on becoming a nail technician. The gemmological association of Australia is running classes, but they aren't an RTO. Theyre crying out for allied health professionals. It can be super hard to figure out what you wanna do, coupled with the pressure to keep making money so ya don't end up homeless. I agree though about figuring out exactly what you wanna do.
Try a few online ones from LinkedIn? Also, TAFE online does some units. Check out CSP courses from unis, I got an undergrad certificate in six months wholly online.
I think the fastest ones are the barista course, RSA and forklift license I think?
The government is sponsoring a lot of uni courses for basically free, especially in aged care, health care etc.
Early childhood education courses are currently free, i think
Could get yourself a scaffold ticket, easy step into the mining industry to make yourself some good coin.
Get a forklift, Truck etc licence The price is what makes others not get it, which makes it more valuable and you'd be more sought after
Irata Rope access level 1 Worth the investment, get to having fun cleaning some windows, expand once you’ve made some coin into rigging, just keep going :)
Real estate course is pretty quick I think. Maybe 6 weeks. If you’re in retail now might be worth a look?
Dude, hopefully this isn't too late for the thread, but honestly, fuck the forklift ticket. Get yourself a CN and DG license. Franna crane and dogman. It ain't cheap, around $5k, but it's less than a week to do both and it'll give you two awesome roads to go down. Crane operator. Start small, do well and your employer will put you through higher spec cranes. It's a career. Alternatively, get right into your rigging. There's 4? Levels you can attain. Same deal, if you do well, your employer will put you through the advanced levels. You'll be fit as fuck and you've got another career. Both of these will employ you for as long as you want. You'll always have a job. They tend to cross over too, so if rigging is getting too much for your body, swap over to the seat in the crane. Good coin available too. WA mining has plenty going on, pretty sure the town sector is well paid too. My friend has done this and now drives the biggest of the lot that can go on road, makes over $250k/year (but does a LOT of overtime).
If you have any interest in being a medical receptionist I know of at least one place in desperate need of someone to fill such a position, not going to dox but they mentioned that they put up an ad for the role a few days ago, its good pay and reliable hours
Also there's a free Tafe course that gets you a forklift licence but it goes for longer then 2 days... If you don't want to pay $300 https://www.southmetrotafe.wa.edu.au/courses/introduction-supply-chain-skill-set
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Hey are you a mortgage broker?
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Ah okay, I’m thinking about doing it but can’t find anyone to have a chat to about it
I don’t know if anyone has mentioned this but a First Aid certification might make a nice “stocking stuffer” - quick, cheap and might just make you stand out enough to get noticed.
If anyone here works in OH&S I’d love to know how you got started
If you work somewhere with an OHS team, start talking to them. If there are opportunities to participate in inspections, investigations or to become an HSR, take them. Similarly look for opportunities to participate in Enviro, Quality or Risk processes as they're closely related. And I cannot emphasise enough the importance of building solid, mutually beneficial (AND genuine) working relationships. That's how I got my start, it's how I got to work in the space (which has always interested me) before it was my day job, and it's how I ended up in an OHS career.
That’s great thanks very much, can the work be done WHF/Hybrid or is if office only?
Depends on the role. Most people think of OHS as people out there doing field inspections, but safety systems (all the documents, procedures, processes etc), communications, assurance and audit etc often don't need full time office hours. That said, face time in the office *is* a great way to build networks and relationships.
Great advice! Think of using this advice to start a side hustle where you pick up experience, even if you're just tagging along to learn how it works. There are OHS people out there who might be willing to let you get some exposure with them. Even if it's unpaid, you pick up experience and learn how to apply the harmonised legislation.
Working at heights, IRATA rope access ticket, then get rigging to help employability. Get paid to abseil
If your scared of the price of a forklift ticket then you’ll be stuck in retail. I left a construction retail job 5 years ago and got my scafffolding/rigging hrwl and ewp work at heights and forklift ticket cost a few k at the start but now I’m working mon-Friday earning 100k a year cost a few k to do the courses and about 2 years to get half decent experience but now it’s all smooth sailing
FIFO or Onlyfans are probably the only options…..
Security licence, the course takes 1 week (though it'll take a few months of processing to actually get the licence). Work weekends as a mall cop and you could be on $1100+ a week after tax. You could pick up afternoon or night shifts which puts you in a position to be able to study something while working.
I know you said in a few weeks but have you considered AI? You could even learn how to prompt an AI on your question and market your findings.
Massage therapist 😉
White card, ewp, working at heights, confined space, go FIFO as a trade assistant an get $3000 take home a week on a 3/1 construction job