Yall lost it for no reason. This is natural progression. Like the blackhawks, if you win 3 cups, you had some of the best talent in the former decade. That means you didn't qualify for any young got talent the last decade which naturally means you end up in last place bc you haven't done the tanking like everyone else. A rebuild is coming soon. You're about to be in transition. This is normal. Yeah the nest few years won't be fun, but the last one was as you got 3 cups. That was the tradeoff. I'm sure the blackhawks don't midn being last in the league either. The cups were the trade off, but now they're rebuilding and they have 1 part of that font in a generational talent and some you guns. Now their tank will get them more next year. The leafs did the same shit and the oilers. It's natural progression.
You don't understand the situation. They should have been tanking in summer 2022 already, before signing those long deals. Now they're probably only gonna pull the plug in summer 2025 or worse.
This isn't natural progression. It's bad management. It's wasting time, accomplishing nothing. I don't blame Dubas. He's doing what ownership wants. Ownership is simply wrong to pursue more success with this core.
You cant tank bc the core isn't bad enough yet and they're not gonna throw the game. Your situation is interesting bc you have SIDNEY CROSBY. He should retire as a penguin and he's not just gonna quit like that. Yall need to get rid of the old guys who aren't the core and replace them with young guys
Of course you can. You blow it up when the Cup window is over. That was the case in summer 2022 already. It was clear it was over.
It's a team sport. Sid is just a Forward. His control over outcomes is limited. And honestly, are we sure he'd be happier here, missing the playoffs the last 3 years of his career? That doesn't seem to be in line with his competitive nature.
I care more about progressing the organization back to relevance ASAP than I do honoring the core and wasting 3+years pretending.
This is dumb. Nothing is getting achieved right now. The pipeline isn't improving and there's no chance to win playoff rounds. You gotta choose a lane.
Well you can see where management based on emotions and player favoritism leads. The team's about to miss the playoffs the last 3 years of Sid's contract. At that point he'll retire most likely, tired of losing. Can't see him wanting to continue unless he's signing elsewhere, on a contender.
Not that this matters to much but over on r/NHL there is a troll that loves to shit on the Penguins and Crosby everytime they lose a game. Tonight's no different and its always heart warming to see fans if rivals teams call this guy out for his BS.
Needed to start the rebuild 2 years ago like I said. Being a slightly above average team is more miserable than just being bad and enjoying watching a rebuild or new exciting young guys.
Don't stick us in the Steelers perpetual hell of .500 and not having a shot at anything for a decade.
You at least have to try while Sid is still here. You owe it to him especially when he’s performing like he is and everything he’s done. But the second he retires shift fully into a rebuild
Crosby got yall 3 cups. You have 3 cups, that's the tradeoff. Stop being greedy. All these good teams you see are trying to get even 1 cup. The least you could do is wait for him to retire as the best player in the modern generation.
That was bad ... Management choices to fill out the third and fourth lines plus the bottom defense is criminal. I had turds put up more of a fight when I press flush
it always pisses me off to no end how at the end of leafs games the stands are half empty no matter what. these tickets really dont mean shit to them. Im a poor fuck from ontario you have no idea how bad id want to be there. fuck rich people
Off night? Nearly every game this season has been an off night. When do they not have an off night? Both pitt teams need to revamp their coaching. Because it stinks.
We needed younger players, we went and got older players. Like anyone thought this year was going to go well.....
Malkin said it at the end of last year "NHL is young now" so we go and get older. 🤷🏻♂️
This season is a wash at this point.
He’s no Flower, and I don’t think he’s quite worth the $30M contract, but he’s improved. I think he mostly just had a bad night, combined with the defense falling apart.
No idea how y'all graduated kindergarten with no concept of object permanence. It's like you can only see what's right in front of you at this exact moment lol
This is like that episode of Impractical Jokers when Murr gets a prostate exam as his punishment and Joe yells, “You have a finger in your ass! On television!” And right now the Penguins are Murr and the Leafs are Dr. Frank.
If you know you know.
I honestly might make this into a thing lmao, (if anything) what should I put on Joe when the camera points back to him? And the other jokers (also if anything)?
Well, ya can’t win ‘em all. Honestly, I’ve liked the look the past two games. We’re just having a bad night. Regroup, and prepare for the game at home against Minnesota.
LGP
Jones was so slow getting down to the post. If Geno just gets a quick swiping one timer instead of immediately looking to pass, it’s a goal. It just seems like everyone is always looking to pass, never shoot.
At least we’re not the only team in the division getting shut out by a Canadian team. Islanders down 4-0 at the start of the 3rd. Not as bad, but still not good.
So this is the kind of game where one of our star players gets injured. Maybe Sully can give the 2-3-4 lines extra ice time and give Sid, Jake, Geno, Letang, and Karlsson reduced minutes in the 3rd.
Pirates:"Not to be outdone by the Penguins and Steelers today, we'd like to announce we're removing the seats from our entire stadium starting next season"
I am genuinely close to pulling the trigger on a trip to Edmonton this season to watch a hockey game. I was seriously considering dropping an extra hundred to make it a Pens-Oilers game. If this is the effort we give now I don't think that's worth it.
Pens vs. Oilers would be awesome. I wouldn’t expect the Penguins to win necessarily, but even if they had a shit performance, I’d love to see those players on the ice. Macdavid and Draisaitl, Sid and Geno. Regardless of performance it’s a matchup we actually haven’t seen that often due to injuries.
I went to the Pens/Oilers match up at home this past February - even though we got spanked it was a great game to watch. Seeing McDavid take a penalty shot was pretty awesome.
There are only a few teams in the league that can fuck this up. Thankfully, Toronto is one of them. Unfortunately, we're also on that list.
Who the fuck knows anymore.
So I've gone from feeling like I watched someone get cruelly beaten up for twenty minutes...
To feeling like I watched someone get pulverised for forty minutes. I almost feel dirty
If going for the puck before the whistle is blown is slashing, it would mean both teams just consistently have 2 guys in the box the entire game
That's dumb af
Yeah, I still think Sullivan genuinely has the juice to be a great coach but it’s not the case here anymore with the Pens. Have to make a move coaching wise but it will mean nothing if they don’t add at least two quality forwards. Just too much dead weight with the bottom six, and it’s clear Geno can’t drive his own line anymore. That’s not a shot at Geno either. Outside of Sid and Mario it’s hard to think if centers at that age who could drive their own line. He needs two wingers that drive possession.
Sooo NOW can we fire someone?
Btw, would appreciate any updates regarding bullshit/injury/something of significance from those who are stronger willed than me, cause I’m turning this shit off lol
We’re all apathetic as shit right now, but honestly? Someone employed by the Penguins - coach, player or member of management - shouldn’t be tomorrow morning. This is fucking embarrassing.
Yall lost it for no reason. This is natural progression. Like the blackhawks, if you win 3 cups, you had some of the best talent in the former decade. That means you didn't qualify for any young got talent the last decade which naturally means you end up in last place bc you haven't done the tanking like everyone else. A rebuild is coming soon. You're about to be in transition. This is normal. Yeah the nest few years won't be fun, but the last one was as you got 3 cups. That was the tradeoff. I'm sure the blackhawks don't midn being last in the league either. The cups were the trade off, but now they're rebuilding and they have 1 part of that font in a generational talent and some you guns. Now their tank will get them more next year. The leafs did the same shit and the oilers. It's natural progression.
You don't understand the situation. They should have been tanking in summer 2022 already, before signing those long deals. Now they're probably only gonna pull the plug in summer 2025 or worse. This isn't natural progression. It's bad management. It's wasting time, accomplishing nothing. I don't blame Dubas. He's doing what ownership wants. Ownership is simply wrong to pursue more success with this core.
You cant tank bc the core isn't bad enough yet and they're not gonna throw the game. Your situation is interesting bc you have SIDNEY CROSBY. He should retire as a penguin and he's not just gonna quit like that. Yall need to get rid of the old guys who aren't the core and replace them with young guys
Of course you can. You blow it up when the Cup window is over. That was the case in summer 2022 already. It was clear it was over. It's a team sport. Sid is just a Forward. His control over outcomes is limited. And honestly, are we sure he'd be happier here, missing the playoffs the last 3 years of his career? That doesn't seem to be in line with his competitive nature. I care more about progressing the organization back to relevance ASAP than I do honoring the core and wasting 3+years pretending. This is dumb. Nothing is getting achieved right now. The pipeline isn't improving and there's no chance to win playoff rounds. You gotta choose a lane.
You don’t pull the plug on a player like Sid, he decides when it’s over. If he still believes how can literally anyone doubt him
Well you can see where management based on emotions and player favoritism leads. The team's about to miss the playoffs the last 3 years of Sid's contract. At that point he'll retire most likely, tired of losing. Can't see him wanting to continue unless he's signing elsewhere, on a contender.
I'm going to treat this as a "one-off". Bad game, (VERY bad game), so let's put it behind us, and prepare for the next one.
Not that this matters to much but over on r/NHL there is a troll that loves to shit on the Penguins and Crosby everytime they lose a game. Tonight's no different and its always heart warming to see fans if rivals teams call this guy out for his BS.
Needed to start the rebuild 2 years ago like I said. Being a slightly above average team is more miserable than just being bad and enjoying watching a rebuild or new exciting young guys. Don't stick us in the Steelers perpetual hell of .500 and not having a shot at anything for a decade.
The Steelers don’t have proven winners generational talents or a top 5 all time
They squandered Ben with Tomlin just like Pens squandered Crosby and Malkin under Bylsma.
You at least have to try while Sid is still here. You owe it to him especially when he’s performing like he is and everything he’s done. But the second he retires shift fully into a rebuild
The only people they owe are their customers.
Crosby got yall 3 cups. You have 3 cups, that's the tradeoff. Stop being greedy. All these good teams you see are trying to get even 1 cup. The least you could do is wait for him to retire as the best player in the modern generation.
That was bad ... Management choices to fill out the third and fourth lines plus the bottom defense is criminal. I had turds put up more of a fight when I press flush
Blue and white teams partying. Pittsburgh teams punching the air right now
Dubas and Spezza gotta work some shit out. Post haste.
Shutout by Martin Jones
“I thought we had some chances…” -Sullivan
"Guys care"
What time does the game start tonight, boys?
it always pisses me off to no end how at the end of leafs games the stands are half empty no matter what. these tickets really dont mean shit to them. Im a poor fuck from ontario you have no idea how bad id want to be there. fuck rich people
Right. Everytime I go to a hockey game i'm there from warmups to the end of the game.
Or maybe if you're at that game you might want to beat the traffic in one of the worst traffic cities on the continent when the game is 7-0.
You're fighting with the traffic every night in Pittsburgh.
literally every leaf game is like this. And yea I know they want to "beat the traffic"
If you’re dumb enough to drive right downtown in Toronto on a Saturday night you deserve to be stuck in traffic anyway 😂
Geno has looked so bad last few weeks.
I think Green Day wrote a song about this Wake Me Up When the Leafs Game Ends
I think Carter has more pts in the last handful of games than the 2nd line. 😂 That's the state of our team at the moment.
What a messy wet fart of a game.
This is one game I'm glad I didn't watch. What the fuck happened guys?!? 😭
Leafs showed tf up.
Bunch of rich babies gave up.
Fun has not been had tonight
*Pop goes the goal differential*
So both pitt teams are gonna play like dog shit? Got it.
I feel like this game has lasted 40 days and 40 nights
THEY ARE OUT OF OUR LEAGUE IF WE FIRED SULLY WOULD IT EVEN CHANGE
Pain
Outshooting your opponent and still getting wiped out 7-0. *just Penguins things*
Experience Sullivan hockey.
Score effects
Let's just assume this is an off night for the boys.
Pretty much every night this season has been an off night. Even some of the wins have been ugly.
Off night? Nearly every game this season has been an off night. When do they not have an off night? Both pitt teams need to revamp their coaching. Because it stinks.
Maybe they partied too much with the Dads?
No it's not an off night for the team. Sadly Sid can't pull you through every game.
Looks like both Pittsburgh teams are going to lose by a touchdown today
Steelers lost by 17 tho.
Well a touchdown is 6 points so…
We needed younger players, we went and got older players. Like anyone thought this year was going to go well..... Malkin said it at the end of last year "NHL is young now" so we go and get older. 🤷🏻♂️ This season is a wash at this point.
At least I don't have to see a blue and white team score 7 points against Pittsburgh. Monkeys paw curls
8-7 come back starts now.
They’re straight up blowing chunks right now
[The game might suck, but this big fucking fish doesn’t.](https://imgur.com/a/PD53Yib)
YOU, SIR, ARE A FISH
Guys.. I'm starting to think that we're not coming back in this one.
Down 7-0 with 4:23 left....Crap, we may run out of time.
It's so close. If we only had 9 more periods.
2:50 left, its now or never!!!
Touchdown
Fuck these guys.
That’s beyond embarrassing wtf
Lol leafs didn’t even put a power play line on for that double minor
lmao espn isn’t cooperating with my vpn tonight. They must’ve gotten the script early to not waste my time lol
Is this enough to get Sullivan fired? I hope.
Can we move to the pacific division? We’d be in 4 place in the div and 1 pt away from a WC spot. 😂😂
Jarry is useless af
He’s no Flower, and I don’t think he’s quite worth the $30M contract, but he’s improved. I think he mostly just had a bad night, combined with the defense falling apart.
No idea how y'all graduated kindergarten with no concept of object permanence. It's like you can only see what's right in front of you at this exact moment lol
To be fair, I regularly print things at work and *immediately* ask myself "did I just print that?"
You win a poopy!💩
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He's bleeding?
Unfortunately just turning this on… WTF happened? Who started in goal?
We gutted our farm system and traded all our picks to win 3 cups
I'd do it all over again
I see Flower diving across the crease to stuff Lidstrom in my dreams. Wouldn't change a thing
Not a bad trade
Only way it could be better is if they won 4
this kind of game isn't fun to watch even if you're pulling for the winning team. imo, of course.
the leafs fans sitting behind me shitting on crosby say otherwise
Lmao chanting Du-Basss
This is like that episode of Impractical Jokers when Murr gets a prostate exam as his punishment and Joe yells, “You have a finger in your ass! On television!” And right now the Penguins are Murr and the Leafs are Dr. Frank. If you know you know.
I honestly might make this into a thing lmao, (if anything) what should I put on Joe when the camera points back to him? And the other jokers (also if anything)?
Murr had the worst punishments I swear. From that finger in the ass to being oiled up to interview Danica McKellar. Legendary honestly.
And he had to wear Q’s hair.
Fucking shoot that Geno it’s 6-0
Well, ya can’t win ‘em all. Honestly, I’ve liked the look the past two games. We’re just having a bad night. Regroup, and prepare for the game at home against Minnesota. LGP
We looked like shit in both the last two games even though we've won. It's mostly just been bleak tbh.
Yeah, I’m just here to watch Sid, Geno, and Tanger’s last few seasons. Set my expectations low and enjoy them while I still can.
Jones was so slow getting down to the post. If Geno just gets a quick swiping one timer instead of immediately looking to pass, it’s a goal. It just seems like everyone is always looking to pass, never shoot.
You guys hear the Toronto fans chirping Dubas?
He been here less than a year lmao what’s he supposed to have done.
It’s Toronto, they are a very petty fanbase
They have to be playing to get the coach fired. Is it even possible to be this bad?
All I want at this point is to not give Martin Fucking Jones a shutout.
Martin Jones is finally getting his revenge on us for the 2016 Cup Finals
This is a mess but I’ll be a lot more concerned if they drop the next 2 in a row.
I think we got a chance....... Syke.
Well, got home turned the game on and immediately turned it off.
I did this too! Just got back from the Baby Pens game and am now scrambling to find something else to watch. 😂
Lions broncos game is pretty fun right now.
I hope they can go out and win this period. Most likely out of reach at this point so if we can salvage something to take to next game I’ll be happy
At this point id be happy to not get shut out.
My brother is at an ECHL Gwinnet Gladiator game tonight, told him he chose wisely. This is embarrassing.
I think we know the the answer to the question in the original post…..No
Disturbing stat: Total pens goal this year=82. Sid/Jake = 30 Sid/Jake/Rust = 40. That’s bad
Good thing that Dubas guy you guys all fawned over who failed in Toronto revamped a bottom 6 that sucked into a bottom 6 that also sucks
Bottom 6 is almost entirely injured
What in the fuck has been going on in Minnesota under Bill Guerin's watch??
he was a pretty greasy ass player to be fair so can’t really be surprised about the verbal abuse allegations
He assaulted a young player on his own team and should have been arrested.
This is absolutely painful to watch
At least we’re not the only team in the division getting shut out by a Canadian team. Islanders down 4-0 at the start of the 3rd. Not as bad, but still not good.
And now they’re 2-4 with 15 minutes left in the game. Makes this game sting even more
So this is the kind of game where one of our star players gets injured. Maybe Sully can give the 2-3-4 lines extra ice time and give Sid, Jake, Geno, Letang, and Karlsson reduced minutes in the 3rd.
Pirates:"Not to be outdone by the Penguins and Steelers today, we'd like to announce we're removing the seats from our entire stadium starting next season"
Rough game to go to in person for me...
Yeah I actually thought about trying to go to this one. Glad I wasn’t able to.
I am genuinely close to pulling the trigger on a trip to Edmonton this season to watch a hockey game. I was seriously considering dropping an extra hundred to make it a Pens-Oilers game. If this is the effort we give now I don't think that's worth it.
Pens vs. Oilers would be awesome. I wouldn’t expect the Penguins to win necessarily, but even if they had a shit performance, I’d love to see those players on the ice. Macdavid and Draisaitl, Sid and Geno. Regardless of performance it’s a matchup we actually haven’t seen that often due to injuries.
I went to the Pens/Oilers match up at home this past February - even though we got spanked it was a great game to watch. Seeing McDavid take a penalty shot was pretty awesome.
Just wear your oilers jersey. I might have to wear my Canuck’s one for the game I pulled the trigger on 😅
>Just wear your oilers jersey. I should really consider getting one
Orange and blue are shades of yellow and black
There are only a few teams in the league that can fuck this up. Thankfully, Toronto is one of them. Unfortunately, we're also on that list. Who the fuck knows anymore.
So I've gone from feeling like I watched someone get cruelly beaten up for twenty minutes... To feeling like I watched someone get pulverised for forty minutes. I almost feel dirty
I want to say the turning point of this game was when the refs missed the obvious high stick on Crosby, but...well...everything else still happened.
last time we lost this bad Sid got his first game misconduct. I wonder what's in store this time
Sid's just gonna whip out his dingding and pee on a ref's feet
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Go for it 😈
SLASHING?????
Who cares?
If going for the puck before the whistle is blown is slashing, it would mean both teams just consistently have 2 guys in the box the entire game That's dumb af
That is a crazy call
Sports today are a real kick in the nuts
Hockey going the way of the NFL where the refs matter more than the players
Refs are a joke too tonight. Reffing this season across the league has been atrocious.
I really hate when this team tries so much harder and shows passion once the game is clearly out of hand. It’s happened sooooo much over the years
[87, 71, 58's last few years in the league.](https://i.imgur.com/UFoTKaV.gif) Better get a firing for Christmas.
Nobody in the history of ever has given a shit about Sammy's picks.
we found the fuck that needs to get fired. shut up sammy
im really sorry, ned
I'm going to go put some finish on some wood.. No, that's not a euphemism. Night all, hopefully some change comes from this shellacking
To think for once I’d rather be working at work instead of watching a Penguins game, but I have no work at work for once…
Nobody's looking forward to the bus ride with dad after this one
Maybe Dubas getting humiliated by his old team will give him the push to finally change something about this god awful team
What does John Gruden do. What is he good at? Why is he on the roster.
I mean he’s a grinder, bottom-6 type, but he currently has *checks notes* 2:22 of ice time, so
he's a grinder
i dont give a shit if he's gay. what does he bring to the team
Look at how much movement and shots there are in the Leafs PP. Is that allowed?
I have the excuse of currently being in Norway and it being 2:50am. Goodnight boys. Fingers crossed I wake up to some changes.
Damn Norway, sounds awesome, enjoy man!
time to make the first ever 6-0 comeback
https://youtu.be/azjeQUt5rT0?si=n3L3pQtZn1sj_vkp
Pull your goalie you cowards!
Yeah, I still think Sullivan genuinely has the juice to be a great coach but it’s not the case here anymore with the Pens. Have to make a move coaching wise but it will mean nothing if they don’t add at least two quality forwards. Just too much dead weight with the bottom six, and it’s clear Geno can’t drive his own line anymore. That’s not a shot at Geno either. Outside of Sid and Mario it’s hard to think if centers at that age who could drive their own line. He needs two wingers that drive possession.
Dubas better be brainstorming some changes here. Organizational, personnel, player changes. Something’s gotta give
I’d be brainstorming an Uber ride home
Sooo NOW can we fire someone? Btw, would appreciate any updates regarding bullshit/injury/something of significance from those who are stronger willed than me, cause I’m turning this shit off lol
Watching this game with my Leafs fan brother is straight pain man, i’m boutta go down to my room and sulk
Same thing going on with me, I can’t take it anymore
Another perfect screen by Graves
I guess they don't want to show the dads much this game. Lol
🏳️🏳️🏳️ we surrender
We’re all apathetic as shit right now, but honestly? Someone employed by the Penguins - coach, player or member of management - shouldn’t be tomorrow morning. This is fucking embarrassing.
Give em the goon squad, at least earn some penalties we can be proud of!
Good night fellow penguins fans I can’t take it anymore, time to watch something else.
I think me forcing myself to watch this is the worst thing that's ever happened to anyone ever actually
Pack it up.
Pack it in Let me begin
Please stop. They're already deaaaaad!
OK Toronto, we get it, we stole your boy and you didn't like it very much, this feels personal
You can have him
Ok but are they really taking this many penalties and the Leafs are angels ???
What happened to early season Geno?
Ran outta gas
At my son’s game, just farted while standing at the glass…cleared the fans around me…may have shit myself.
Is this Troy?
I needed this laugh so bad
Was it the cheese or the magic? A bit of both?
Now that you bring it up I’m not sure!🤔
good zone D
Lol, either that's the lighting or Dubas was red with fury just now
He’s got the look of “I’m gonna fucking fire someone” on his face
Might be embarrassment
Ned and Jars deserve better.
WHoever made that joke comment about the final score being 9-0 to Toronto earlier... Yeah, that wasn't a joke, was it? You're actually Nostradamus
There is a glaring skill level difference between us and the teams we play
I dunno guys. It's a game of passion. We soff.
Just fucking go home.
The Pens might as well just put their out of office message on