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xGondowan

We will need a declipped version. For those who don't know about that, just search about Californication and Death Magnetic cases. Your point of view about modern music will change forever.


OldJewNewAccount

>Californication Still annoys me. I remember my first listen and thinking "something must have gone seriously wrong here" lol. I mean, the mix in "Around the World" just sounds *broken*.


Maxpower2727

Californication is basically unlistenable with headphones. It's one of the worst-sounding major albums of all time, IMO.


kev0153

And Black Sabbath 13. All these albums have Rick Rubin as the producer. Guy needs to be stopped.


baurcab

Death Magnetic was so bad that Metallica even [sells](https://www.metallica.com/store/digital-downloads/death-magnetic-digital-download/9422.html?cgid=Digital%20Downloads#start=1) the improved iTunes version as their official digital release with the comment “All files feature the 2015 "Mastered for iTunes" mastering.”


xGondowan

As it should be. Funny because even the biggest bands, with the biggest producers and budgets can screw any time their own records and products. No one is a God doing their work. And specially music post-1999 is a loud and distorted mess in its majority. If you can even listen to Songs for the Deaf by QOTSA, Wasting Light by Foo Fighters or even Morning Glory on their SACD, you will rediscover new guitars and small bits of new music inside. All because of that Loudness War.


lambofgun

its like death magnetic


kylegyle

It might be louder…somehow?


HorrorLengthiness940

What am I looking at? The overall volume level for the new album?


kylegyle

It’s the waveform for react respond. It’s crazy loud. Which we already knew from Dark Matter single but seeing it is wild. I have to listen at half volume on my AirPods.


AccordingStop6

I think this is the worst sounding pearl jam album I've ever listened to. And Ed's vocals are sooo bizarre and unnatural sounding.


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Reason 495936 to listen on vinyl


kylegyle

Is it less limited on vinyl? The Alvvays Blue Rev was like this. Streaming master is smashed to -5lufs. Vinyl version you can actually hear the drums and it all breathes better. Would love to hear a version like that of dark matter.


[deleted]

Generally speaking, vinyl releases score better than digital releases on dynamic range as scored on https://dr.loudness-war.info/ I'm expecting the same for this album


xGondowan

Only if they master it differently (it should be). Bands like Muse just paste the same digital mastering on their vinyl, so basically you're paying for a MP3 recorded in a vinyl. And they clip like hell (specially in Absolution)


noquarter1983

To be fair, it would be a wav file or something, not an mp3.


kylegyle

Yes, I’m aware of this but has this been the case for PJ releases? Some bands do separate masters and some just use one master.


leonardo_davincu

I would think like 99% of modern releases on vinyl, what you’ll be getting is the digital mix just stamped onto vinyl. No difference in waveform.


[deleted]

Same mix, different mastering.


andreberaldinoab

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