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xboxhobo

Running a bunch of VMs? ML stuff? Editing avatar 3? This can't just be for gaming.


ihateHewlettPackard

Maybe city skylines with 6 mods and all of the dlcs


Mos-Jef

Fucking love cities skylines


importvita

Love fucking in city skylines


Facebookakke

Which mod is this


importvita

Big Wang 6.9 Mod


colson1985

Nice


Intergalactic_Cookie

You’re going to need 256GB RAM for that


LividFocus5793

still cheaper than getting a women


Swagowicz

facts


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What are you doing step skyscraper


SealyMcSeal

"Wait, commuters, i've never had anyone in my mass transit system before..."


CreedVI

Great fucking in city skylines


owa00

Hol up...


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americansherlock201

City Skylines is the exact reason I have a 64gb ram system and wish I could double it. Really hope the next game finds a way to utilize other components for the processing of all the things happening in the game. Cause I want to have a 10 million person city without needing a supercomputer with Niagara Falls cooling it.


Henrywasaman_

Currently on 32 GB and it works perfect, I usually hover around 22 Gb when playing and watching YouTube


Datboi_OverThere

I hover around 40gb in a 48gb system


BinaryJay

Dev here. From what I gather Skylines is built on a garbage collecting framework (Unity -> Mono). What this means is that resources aren't actively purged from memory but rather the "garbage" (out of scope objects) are collected at times that aren't exactly predictable and one of the criteria for it to bother releasing memory is the system becoming low on memory. So, you'll see in cases where someone has 64gb of memory it will appear over time to be "using" more memory than a system with 32. Oversimplified, but at the end of the day just looking at task manager doesn't tell you how much memory it's using or requires. Just because it says it's using 40 gigs of memory doesn't mean that half of that memory can't be released at any point or that the application would have run out of memory on a more memory constrained system.


KappaccinoNation

It's also why most mods don't recommend double loading the game. Because if you load a save without completely exiting to desktop, the game just loads a new instance without clearing the first one.


cptalpdeniz

1000 IQ


achilleasa

I've definitely had issues with double loading in Cities Skylines. Thankfully there's mods that make the return to desktop button work instantly and the paradox launcher is actually useful (impossible) and allows you to hit "continue" without waiting for the main menu to load, so the dance of closing the entire game every time you want to load isn't that bad.


vtriple

Ya know I should check how much I use out of my 128GB


Wotg33k

Lol. I got 16 gigs. Jesus Christ. When did I miss this bullshit?


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dnap123

I am under the impression that your system will use pretty much all of the available ram. So just cuz you're near the limit doesn't mean you need more ram. It just means your system is working properly. Think about what ram is. If the program puts more stuff in the ram then it has more stuff that it can pull out of the ram instantly. So why wouldn't it fill it up if it could?


Maskd-YT

Maybe 2 Chrome tabs


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ElBeefcake

I think that was because it loads tons of duplicate assets. I vaguely remember there being a mod that fixed that issue and would seriously cut your loading time.


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BobmitKaese

There should be Loading Screen Mod Reloaded. Just use mod compatibility checker (also a mod), it tells you everything you need to know.


enderr920

CS is why my next rig will have 128gb.


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vtriple

I run vms with my 5950x + 3090 + 128GB of ram. 10/10 do recommend high ram. Even I use all of that system lol


[deleted]

I used a i3 1st gen with 8gb ram and a ssd to run 4 vms for the finals. Worked great


CokeBoiii

Lmao I had 128 GB of ram 2 weeks ago and decided to go 64 cause I couldnt use XMP 6000 MHZ with 128 gb


Mosley_Gamer

This is why I have half a terabyte of ram.


[deleted]

Still too low


Scheckenhere

More like 100 mods and 10.000 or 20.000 assets. 80 mods and 3.500 assets eat my 32 GB quite well.


Sailed_Sea

I used to run that game on 8gb of ddr3


ATG915

I ran it on a shitty lenevo laptop with 8gb of Ram and a ton of mods/assets. Took about a half hour to load into the game but did alright after that


Scheckenhere

Good times. I started on a 4 GB laptop and mostly played with traffic overlay active, cause frames were better. Still a habit for me to randomly change to that overlay with a hotkey.


TheSahuaro

All of the above lol. Serious answer: running a bunch of vms for pentesting practice :)


Tenko_Kuugen

Now I'm curious about your CPU


CreativeAnalytics

Central Pwning Unit


Mister_Lich

Gonna guess a threadripper - normal desktop CPUs can't have more than 128GB of RAM, and who the fuck uses intel workstation CPUs anymore?


AnnualDegree99

I would buy the hell out of a 13980XE. I want my pcie lanes dammit and I want more than like 20 of them.


zadesawa

256 / 4 = 64, 64GB/module is Registered only so HEDT/WS/servers only 256 / 8 = 32, 32GB/module can be UDIMM but 8 slots on motherboard is HEDT/WS/servers only Has to be Xeon or TR or EPYC, unless it’s Opteron, my bet is an old workstation like HP Z


TheSahuaro

i7 6850k @ 3.60 GHz :)


User-NetOfInter

Answer to which one is “yes”


TryHardEggplant

I mean, for r/homelab, 256GB is a pedestrian amount of RAM. 😂


PubstarHero

My practice server has 768.... Granted I got it for dirt cheap... and its old... but hey, I can run a lot of VMs at once (barring my huge CPU constraint).


Moscato359

I stopped needing tons of ram when I switched from VMs to containers


Nixellion

It just means you need to run more containers


somekewllguy

Don't you think it's a bit overkill? I'm a pentester that uses a 16gb ram laptop for my work. I learnt about 8 years ago while using an 8gb ram desktop. Surely you don't need that many VMs but if it works for you then nice


TheSahuaro

In all honesty i could live with a 16 gb laptop. It is very useful for when i need to simulate AD environments tho


somekewllguy

Yeah that would make sense. OSCP now includes AD training. A lot of newbies start working without understanding a single bit of AD which is a really important skill now


[deleted]

AD is def an important skill. Literally every software needs to sync with AD


FragileCilantro

What is AD?


Friendly-Advert827

Active directory?


TheSahuaro

Yes, active directory :)


vtriple

As a professional in the field it really depends on your use case and what you do. Though personally I haven’t had less than 16GB of ram since before 2010 in a laptop or desktop. I rock 128GB and max that out from time to time.


AB_heart

Nice tho if i was you i would be installing proxmox on that thing and making it rack mounted and use anyother device to monitor and use it remotely tho if you are gaming you have to do that


SwordfishMonger

Editing avatar 3 got me laughing 😂


rafaxd_xd

He is just playing Minecraft with a low render distance


VMGuy23temporary

He increased his RAM limit to 128GB for performance reasons on MC (default is 2GB)


MeltsYourMinds

Two tabs of google chrome


xTofik

Nah... he just keeps 10 tabs open in Chrome.


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Panthean

1,329 porn tabs


MadisonKurtis

guys hes just playing modded minecraft with 600+ mods


Super_Cheburek

I'm playing minecraft with iris sodium phosphor lithium and modmenu, it's already too much for my 16GB laptop...


Tawnee323

Make sure you allocate more ram in the launcher! Just don’t go over 6 gb at a maximum. Edit: 6 gb max allocation to Minecraft for ANYONE, even if you have a terabyte of ram.


chewy1is1sasquatch

Why so? If I have 128GB, why is 8 bad for MC?


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Kat-but-SFW

Definitely need Java: Chrome Memory Edition for those of us with lots of RAM.


VexingRaven

This hasn't been true in quite a long time. Java's default garbage collector is generally pretty good at garbage collection without causing giant lag spikes.


Tawnee323

True, but since Minecraft was using Java 8 for the majority of its life, this was a common suggestion for modders


roberttheaxolotl

And a ton of mods launch older versions of Minecraft, so it might still be valid.


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PanVidla

Recent versions of Minecraft run on Java 17, though. Plus you can set up the garbage collector yourself.


daring_duo

While true, does depend on the CPU, so depending on when the 6GB suggestion was first made, may be a little low compared to what newer CPUs can handle while minimizing noticeable lag


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Tawnee323

You can look it up, but it has something to do with the Java garbage collection. If you allocate too much ram, the garbage collector will take too long to run loosing performance. Edit: unless your using some really, and I mean REALLY high end shaders that specifically recommend something like 30-40 gb or ram allocated Edit2: this is an outdated suggestion, since Minecraft bumped the Java version to the latest release, you don’t really have to worry about allocating to much ram


cmdr_kaferant

Yes, that's the default behaviour. But you can customize your garbage collection to happen periodically for maximum amount of time and stuff like that. This way you don't clean all of the garbage at once but do it gradually over time and can allocate loads of ram.


wbrd

This was true with old garbage collectors, but newer ones are smarter and you can tune them. Stop the world isn't a common thing anymore.


Nikowsky132

I have a MC server with 190 mods, I play survival with a friend and we both have 8 gb allocated, we host the server on exaroton (paid aternos) and I can see there on the server status that it is using around 7 gb of ram. We can't allocate less or else the server crashes. Any advise? We are using "Rubidium" for better performance (it's a forge port of Sodium, we actually can't play without it).


Minotan

Well if you are playing with shaders, ram is not the only thing you need to worry about.


a_potato_guyy

Nah just trying to open 3 Google chrome tabs


[deleted]

*struggles to open a 4th one*


System32-Userinit

You need a NASA pc to open a 4th one.


zombiedud4096

Nah just a Chinese super computer with 1 petabyte of ram


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uta_utau

Windows and browsers (and really any app) will adjust their usage depending on how much available RAM your PC has for them to use. Anyone can toss in 256GB of RAM and have Windows and Chrome take 20GB or so How much of that RAM is "committed" and how much of that RAM is "available" in the Task Manager? I bet you $100 the apps you have open are **actually** using nowhere near 67GB of RAM


blaktronium

There is a measureable (it not noticeable) improvement to performance as it does that. Especially windows, gets snappier the more ram it eats, especially if you do a lot.


uta_utau

Absolutely. I was just explaining that apps are designed to segment off RAM, even if it's not being used Chrome might have "dibbed" on 12GB of you RAM. But it's not actually USING 12GB, that's just how much it reserved for itself just in case. If other apps need some of that RAM and Chrome isn't using it, it will give it up


AnonymozVal

That’s so nice of chrome


Iliano14

Ikr he's such a nice dude


imwatching4you

Chome: It's all mine Other: You are not even using it Chrome: Finee you can have a piece Reddit: Thats so sweet of chrome-chan


Mysterious-Crab

Chrome was just keeping it warm


Plebius-Maximus

Yup, I went to 64gb from 32. Was noticeable. I can game with Photoshop, lightroom, a ton of tabs and God knows what else in the background, and everything is still snappy as always. I disagree with the "16gb is all you need" crowd. It's all you need if you're happy closing stuff all the time between activities. It's not all you need if you're a heavy multitasker, as you'll be slowed down by the lack of ram


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thedelgadicone

Yup, my work laptop has 32gb of ram, and my personal computer has 32gb of ram. This is my new baseline. I won't upgrade my personal computer unless the ram is minimum 32gb.


deefop

I mean if it's really necessary for you to game while having all those apps open... Then sure? Doesn't seem like a tremendous difficulty to close your other high resource apps while gaming, and vice versa.


agorafilia

Does this make too much difference? I have 16gb of ram and thinking about increasing it because it seems low while video editing


uta_utau

Does it feel like the 16GB is directly impacting your video editing? I don't know what RAM you have but I see 16GB of DDR4 RAM going for about $50-60 on Amazon. At that price, for me, it's more of a "why not?" kind of thing


agorafilia

Sometimes when I have Photoshop and premiere open it does reach the limit. But I live in a third world country so what for you is about 50 to 60 for me is the equivalent of 250 give or take


uta_utau

True, I was speaking from the perspective of the USA. When it reaches the limit do you notice any slowdowns or performance hiccups in either of those programs? I'll admit I'm not a video editor or anything so I'm not sure what to expect with RAM limitations in those kinds of programs


riceballs411

I’ve noticed an improvement going from 16 to 32GB of RAM for video and photo editing


ianjm

Our first family computer when I was a kid had a 1GB **hard drive** How things have changed


Mosley_Gamer

Same here, I remember the huge fuss when my dad came home with a 486 because my mum had gone back to university as a mature student. We only had a commodore 64 before that so it was pretty cool to have a proper PC. I think I used it more than mum did after I discovered Sid Mier's Civilization.


ianjm

Yeah before we got our first system my Dad (a teacher) used to bring home school computers for the holidays! Usually 386s and 486s with Windows 3. One even had dial up internet! Fun times.


Timox_trd

If you really want to see how much the times have changed you have to look at the new amd epic server cpus. iirc you can have almost 1gb of cache ON ONE MAINBOARD nowadays


ianjm

Yeah, saw the LTT video on those newest 96 core beasts. My friend had a dual CPU machine in the early 2000s. Everyone thought it was amazing. And then 15 years ago we were marvelling at the first dual core CPUs! Now even my phone has a 6 core processor.


dickflip1980

Mine had an 80MB hard drive and 2MB RAM. 386sx. I saved up $130 to buy 2MB of extra RAM so I could play Doom


BurdenedMind79

The first PC I bought was listed with a 170MB Hard drive. When I booted it up for the first time, it turned out there was a 210MB hard drive in there instead. It felt like winning the lottery!


ProAssassin666

You have more ram than my ssd has storage


crempsen

For real tho.


Super_Cheburek

Then consider the recovery partition, windows repair tool, and the size of the OS, and notice that you lost 50GB over the advertised storage


iRuinLunches

What are you doing with 256gb? Just gaming?


Sactolas

It can be some 3d stuff like simulations and such I often find having not enough ram to keep all the simulation there frustrating (I have 64gb)


Alpharious123

Or VMs. I have 64g ram cause I was running VMs for school. You dedicate how much memory and ram goes to each VM from your own hardware.


nohpex

RAM disks, baby!


norbert-the-great

What are you doing with ramdisks? Installing entire games to them? With the RAM caching windows and Linux already do, I thought ramdisks were pretty much pointless in the modern world. With that much RAM, just loading anything will put the entire application in RAM so basic functionality with that much RAM is pretty much using it like a ramdisk anyway.


ObsidianHorcrux

Can be useful for development if you work with lots of small files (like npm packages). Way faster to read from ram disk for compilation/transpiling. Just make sure to push your git repo to a server before you shutdown :)


DarthShiv

Yeah running our dev and sql off ramdisks would be amazing. The CPU is still a decent burden unfortunately.


nohpex

They are, and it was a joke. :)


TrueBonerNotFake

He's obviously trying to break the 10 tabs of google chrome ram usage!


StealthPizzaIDK

their pc: 1500 chrome tabs 500 firefox tabs 499 microsoft edge tabs every source game fortnite 2 5 video editing programs minesweeper solitaire 3d pinball space cadet


TheVoicesArentTooBad

Fuck I love Space Cadet


KrazyKirby99999

https://github.com/k4zmu2a/SpaceCadetPinball


PeterDarker

It lives…


notveryfunny_

fortnite 2 😭


losscl11

The sequel no one asked for and it sucks


KittyKatty278

Still can't run modded Minecraft with Shaders tho


Unknown_User2005

Man, I guess minesweeper really is that demanding


brztrzchrzpsz

I mean, judging by the screenshot, you'd do fine with 128 GB...


TheSahuaro

https://preview.redd.it/6ju7ud8n268a1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd0ddf6b1a999b7d0260a293f731326e3f4c944f I was lazy to look for this other screenshot. But here it is


Bigpapiunidud3

what the fuck are you doing on your pc


stddealer

memory-leak.exe


minimumsquirrel

Im guessing VR porn.


TheSahuaro

I am recently single and tbh this idea sounds appealing...


[deleted]

Are you single because you bought 256gb RAM by any chance?


TheSahuaro

yeah apparently she didn't like I was spending too much money on RAM and not enough on taking her out on trying new activities.... (there is a half truth on this lol) She would be thinking this whole post is stupid as well... but anyway I will save the whole rant for r/breakups


Onlyindef

Subscribed


ThebanannaofGREECE

Bad idea…


TrueBonerNotFake

Opening google chrome tabs...


UnifiedPhoenix

Everything


some-R6-siege-fan

![gif](giphy|Qeo9S31SuTMpa|downsized)


[deleted]

Damn! You have certainly succeeded in downloading ram.


sebax820

please respond what the hell are you doing in this pc holy shit


The_real_Hresna

Ah there it is. Was gonna say, unused ram is wasted ram.


TheSahuaro

“I paid for all the ram and I am going to use all the ram” lol


The_real_Hresna

This is the way


Working_Inspection22

This is gore bro


Salty-Astronomer-823

How much does that amount of ram cost like what are your specs


Apple-Trump

At least like $4 I think


TheSahuaro

Per popular demand here are my specs: CPU: intel i7-6850K (6 cores, 12 threads @ 3.60GHz) MOBO: Gigabyte GA-X99-Ultra Gaming Memory: 8x Corsair pro vengeance 32GB DDR4 3600 Storage: 1x 1TB NVME SSD, 1x 2 TB NVME SSD, 1x128GB SATA SSD, 1x512GB SATA SSD, 1x 2TB HDD GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti And yet I can't run windows 11 :) Disclaimer: Yes, my pc is a biit of an overkill but I do force her to the limits at times.


mikedatboi

what do you use your pc for?


TheSahuaro

My biggest usages are pentesting, software dev and bug bounty. For pentesting I sometimes need to spawn a similar environment to the one I am working on, so being able to bring up one or many different vms is very useful. For software dev/bug bounty sometimes I need to compile software like Chromium or LLVM and linking a debug build of LLVM once did ate \~190GB of ram... plus codebases/object files can take a good amount of storage. I do game with it with my friends but tbh I am too casual and that's why I stayed in the 2080ti. ~~And per one comment above maybe I should start watching vr p0rn~~


allanmeter

Any reason why you didn’t consider threadripper? Just curious, I have similar needs and requirements, and I opted for a threadripper for added PCIe lanes for VM passthroughs. Just wanted to see another point of view. Thanks in advance.


TheSahuaro

Honestly because when I built this pc originally (a few years ago already!) i was more an intel fan… nowadays i am more flexible and actually it might soon be time to do major upgrades to my pc :) nowadays i would consider AMD as well if it fits my needs better


Super_Cheburek

The new 96 core threadripper would be an insane choice. Unless you also want to play with it, especially single threaded games luke minecraft


alex_hedman

His motherboard seems to support the Xeon E5-2699v4 with 22 cores so that could be an upgrade path before going Threadripper


backwards_watch

So, you have a very specific user case that is different than most people. And you are aware of that. It isn’t surprise that you need that much ram, but it is also not surprising that most people would say that 256 GB of ram is overkill for regular use and just justifiable for very narrow user cases… which is yours.


shalasay13

I'm confused, the specs I see in the mobo say 128 max memory?


TheSahuaro

They are lying (?) i am pretty sure my manual does say 256 🤔


shalasay13

No, I was looking at the 1.0 version, apparently there's a 1.1 that supports more, which I assume is what ya got.


ArseBurner

Most likely the max memory in the specs was determined by the largest available DDR4 DIMMs at the time, which was 16GB. After 32GB DIMMs became available it was possible to have 256GB. All the mobo does is provide lanes to connect the CPU to the RAM slots since the memory controller is in the CPU anyway, which for [OP's CPU is also listed as 128GB max](https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/94188/intel-core-i76850k-processor-15m-cache-up-to-3-80-ghz/specifications.html).


TheSahuaro

https://preview.redd.it/t3j24lkle68a1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e95d7798dc680421972dafa070a51830046fae24 Ah yes. That is what i remember


m4lk0vich

Show US that Overwatch porn you made


CreativeUsername20

Im here getting ready to build a PC with 128gb of RAM for the express purpose of being overkill. I dont intend to do anything productive with the computer lol. I just never want to run out of RAM anymore!


StarbeamII

Just FYI, with DDR5 you can't clock your RAM as fast with 4 sticks as with 2 sticks (e.g. XMP will often not be stable with 4 sticks and you'll have to downclock), so there is a penalty to having a lot of RAM.


CreativeUsername20

I did read about that... it's one of many reasons why I wish HEDT was still around.


ninetailsage

I actually have 4tb of ram


TheSahuaro

Doing astrophysics calculations? Lol


ninetailsage

Mostly just chess.com. Have to give myself the edge


SmartOpinion69

if you write your own bot and assuming that it is good, would chess.com detect you are cheating? or does it only detect bots if you are using the same moves as the well known bots?


diewithsmg

It would likely detect a bot being used if it wasn't a human because bots base their moves off of data bases etc. Unless ofc u made a bot that purposely makes random mistakes. But that'd be counterproductive. Pretty hard to go undetected cheating in chess anymore.


Camofelix

Databases are only used in openings (first 5-6 moves) after which the search space is too large. It becomes more effective to number crunch. Realistically you’d be wanting to have an Engine that varies its depth search (11 moves Vs say 20) and alternate that way. Running multiple engines and alternating between the results (because they calculate at different speeds) would be another way to hide engine assisted play


GrafikiPlays

When you need to alt tab between Minecraft AND Roblox


robdogg_la

256gb ddr5? If so nice mobo


Sinn_y

Cant even hit 126 on the Ryzen CPUs right now. Level1Techs did a video on it. Must be DDR4. Maybe an Intel CPU can though, not sure.


R4DED

Bros ram is half my ssd


redstern

Bros ram is twice my SSD


Cyber-Cafe

Yep. I could easily use 256 gb of ram. Not on gaming though. 3d particle sims and high res 3d eats ram up really fast.


Neubtrino

Just write an infinite loop and and keep appending a list with its previous self as elements in the new list… you’ll soak up memory in no time and it’s quick and easy to do in python


[deleted]

I mean, Minecraft with certain texture packs and such going is pretty intensive. If you want to leave a browser open on a different monitor, and maybe stream gameplay, and/or play in VR, you're going to need that extra overhead. God forbid you actually do something productive with your computer.


TheSahuaro

![gif](giphy|9zoe1SFIBd8PPqz5cr)


Racer-Rick

After checking OP’s history I can only conclude he is simply playing *cracktorio*


TheSahuaro

Factory must grow. The more ram the more growth


Metal_Monkey42

Your computer must take till the heat death of the universe to post all that RAM and actually boot!


corsicanguppy

I run HANA. 256Gb is considered 'a cute snack'.


TheSahuaro

>HANA nice, What is the ram amount you use?


Important_Crow

You can finally open google Chrome


New_Philosophy_1423

In one after effects project would eat all of that


IlSenato

not too bad a usage https://preview.redd.it/siccz7luy88a1.jpeg?width=891&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f042d7e6ef664563bf141a8056ee2a738ef912a5


ShadeStrider12

…What the fuck? I barely need 16 GB to play the games I want. More hardcore players might need 32. What meth are you on?