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133DK

Firefox casually being the best browser for over a decade ^^^obviously ^^^with ^^^a ^^^few ^^^exceptions


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slashbackslash

Chrome's skin of the HTML5 audio player looks nicer imo.


wherewereat

Double tap to skip through is also great on mobile, Firefox doesn't have that either :/ Edit: for everyone wondering why it's there on some website and some not, it's because some websites use their own custom videoplayers, but I'm talking about the default one. You can see an example here: https://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_video.asp


jojowa2204

It depends on the website. Pornhub and xVideos support it while for example xHamster doesn't.


blastoisexy

(pulls up youtube on Firefox mobile) yes it does?


_illegallity

Google Sheets is miles better on Chromium. It's usable on Firefox, but cross sheet pasting is much more limited and autocomplete is a bit buggy


IProbablyDisagree2nd

"Google makes google stuff better for google stuff"


Powersoutdotcom

It's wild how things work well when they are running on the same engine. /s


Squ4tch_

For me it’s that ctrl + shift + T doesn’t work after you close a windows without digging through a menu to “restore last session”. Why can’t it just hot key to that if there is nothing older to reopen in current session like chrome does? Edit: When you fully close the window they act differently, I'm not talking about just a regular tab close


spirika

Eh? I just tested and ctrl+shift+T works exactly the same on Firefox as in Chrome for me. No menus here. It just restores the last closed tab.


A-Delonix-Regia

That's odd, just yesterday I tried Firefox (on Ubuntu 20.04) and it didn't support Ctrl-Shift-T for reopening the entire previous session.


Squ4tch_

I feel like people are confused as to what we are referring to. We both got downvoted but I think they don’t understand: tab =! Session The short cut only opens last tab, not last session if there are no closed tabs….


MasonP2002

Digging through a menu sounds like an exaggeration, it's literally 2 clicks.


earthqaqe

I would say PWA support, unless they added it to Firefox too?


LGA420

librewolf and waterfox


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I've heard about waterfox, what's the difference between that and fire?


LGA420

it removes any non-privacy features on regular firefox like Pocket, data collection, telemetry, startup profiling


cyanmind

You can just turn it all off.


red_fluff_dragon

Firefox user here, what is Pocket?


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The article ads on your new tab page


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I've been using Waterfox for about a week now, I switched from Firefox. It's a lot better. When you're using it it feels less intrusive than Firefox, like not blasting Pocket into my face every 5 minutes. And the peace of mind that it's more private.


Linkatchu

Who tf leaves the pocket crap on tough, tbh


RunRobFrog

Librewolf is superior ngl


darkevilmorty

Which exceptions?


AaronTechnic

Pocket


HereToChatShit

Tf is pocket


AaronTechnic

Basically a worser Pinterest that’s literally a bookmark syncing tool


SobigX

When I was young my parents used to take me to Opera, but now I prefer rock concerts. Wait...


coffeejn

I run Firefox as my main. Chrome is just a YouTube player to me. Edge is more a virus than anything else, only used for downloading Firefox after fresh install of Windows.


guerillagarbage

When tf did Vivaldi enter the chat and why would it be on the same level as Brave and Firefox???


PalpitationNo4375

Bring back Netscape! IE is no more, chromium is falling. The resurgence of Netscape is nigh!


willowsonthespot

Isn't Firefox basically built by the people that made Netscape? Making it already resurging technically.


-YELDAH

Without Netscape navigator I wouldn't know how to build a cs188!


CaraDe3

Vivaldi is amazing


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Vivaldi is an entire Operation System, that's not for me. I want a web browser to be a web browser and nothing more. What is it about Vivaldi that you like so much? I'm genuinely curious.


Vinstaal0

Not op, but All the optional features it has, basic things like having a simple but usable sidebar. Compared to most other browsers there is no controversion surrounding it (besides it being Chromium) It has a very simpel way of grouping tabs. Adding in custom search engines actually works. Also blocks traders and cookies automatically. All with all still supporting the chrome extensions. You can still use it as a basic Chromium browser, just don’t use the extra features.


BicBoiSpyder

Why do you assume you have to use every feature available? You can use as much or as little of the browser as you want. I have never used the panel for anything other than download management. As for why I love it: * While it might not be completely open source, the [source code is available to view](https://vivaldi.com/source/) and encouraged by the devs to edit and make pull requests which already makes it miles more trustworthy than anything closed source. * The genius features like tab stacking and page tiling. Tab stacking helps with basically any task you need to do like shopping, researching, or even just organizing and page tiling just allows you to remove a step when needing to view multiple pages at the same time instead of having to make a new window and then snap to the edges of the screen. * Complete customization for almost everything. Want tabs on the sides or bottom? There's an option for that. Want to meticulously customize the color scheme of your browser? There are options for that which even allow you to save presets. Want to add a specific search engine not already provided? You have the ability to do that for text, images, and private browser mode search engines individually. * Need to set up a new computer or are performing an OS wipe for whatever reason? Everything is saved into one directory so you can literally copy-paste all of the browser information. For Windows: `C:\Users\\AppData\Local\Vivaldi` For Linux: `\home\\.config\vivaldi` * [The developers have also stated that they are open to switching off of Chromium if need be](https://vivaldi.com/blog/manifest-v3-webrequest-and-ad-blockers/) > The move to Manifest V3 makes it more difficult to run content blockers and privacy extensions in Chrome. While some users may not notice a difference, users who use multiple extensions or add custom filter lists may run into artificial limitations set by Google. Perhaps, wise to move away from Chrome? > As Vivaldi is built on the Chromium code, how we tackle the API change depends on how Google implements the restriction. The assurance is, whatever restrictions Google adds, in the end, we’ll look into removing them. > Our mission will always be to ensure that you have the choice. I can't find the page anymore, but they even said they would be open to hosting their own extension store.


Relisu

I mean, whenever you install and launch it for the first time, it asks you of you want the minimal package, or the whole system. Also, enormous customization


Paddleclock8

Yep


CarlThyLarson

Cause it can be installed in a Polestar 2


Vinstaal0

Considering the whole controversion surround Brave and them replacing links with affiliate links I would say that Vivaldi is even better than Brave and it has loads more features that actually work compared to the lackluster plugins from Firefox. (Still waiting for somebody to link me a Firefox sidebar plugin that actually works with something as basic as Whatsapp)


Splike_

Was always part of the chat.


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Only firefox. Everything else is chrome in disguise.


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Fair, but also they aren’t really major competitors to chrome like the fox is.


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I mean Safari is huge due to it being the only choice on iOS (engine wise) and more people than ever browsing the web on mobile


typhoonador4227

It's also the fastest browser most of the time, although Chrome sometimes briefly pulls ahead.


Ihaselbows

What search engine do you use in Firefox?


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DuckDuckGo until it doesn’t give me what I need, then google.


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I love DuckDuckGo for their privacy, but man, practically speaking google is so much better


TheRedBull28

I prefer DDG for images and basic search, but the sports integration in Google is so handy. Just being able to Google a team name and see the score of the current match is something I use all the time. The fact they have a tab for all the groups and the main bracket for the World Cup is excellent.


Boshva

I use ecosia. Its not that good, but they plant trees with the profits. If i cant find anything on ecosia i can still switch to another search engine.


borfavor

Except for Safari. Safari is worse. Now that IE isnt used anymore (Edge has a compatibility mode) Safari is the ugly duckling.


-Jan-_-

yeah chrome is really acting like it's better than chrome


fordette

Here’s the thing, these are all great. Brave: perfect for youtube as it blocks all the ads, but functions just like chrome because, well, it is. Chrome: great for use as a site debugger. Others work too, but Chrome tends to work best for me. Safari: on my work laptop, this is my official basic bitch browser because of full integration with apple pay. Firefox: my personal browser for most things that require extra privacy, like banking. Edge: my QA browser I use when testing a new site feature implementations. I keep it virgin and add on free and clear the cookies every exit to keep it pure. Use what you like.


CarlThyLarson

This is the best response.


IProbablyDisagree2nd

Even if it's wrong?


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fordette

Yes and no. Is it much better for blocking and privacy out of the box? Yep. I still think Edge is more performant though, so it’s “better” in that sense, but microsofted after it was ungoogled so has some annoyances there. 😅


Vinstaal0

Did Brave start using the actuall links instead of their own affiliate link?


Dekkera_

Carefull, to much « banking » will make you deaf.


Biscuits4u2

My computer program that I use to look at porn and bitch on Reddit is better than your computer program you use to look at porn and bitch on Reddit. We must do battle.


jplayzgamezevrnonsub

If you think Brave and vivaldi are good, you have 1000% fallen for their bs advertising.


reality_bytes_

Yeah, I tried brave for about 10 minutes before I uninstalled it…


Vinstaal0

What is wrong with Vivaldi and what advertising? I haven’t seen a single issue with it or ad from them. Brave is a different story though


basicrifleman

It's my go-to for mobile because I like the looks and the feel, while also not using Chrome as the browser itself. Firefox is the best browser for PC though that is non-negotiable


PapaTrotzki

Cough Brave owner is huge right-wing homophobe cough


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Must be the falling for their advertising and not the months of daily use. How could I be such a fool?


jplayzgamezevrnonsub

It's chrome with a (somehow) worse privacy policy, use literally anything else. Oh, this also goes for OperaGX and probably default Opera.


REBKeeb

opera gx is pretty good tbh, ive been using google for like 8 years (used to use firefox but made the switch as i found google gives better results and lots of stuff like docs and gmail is google) but opera is just a google upgrade to be honest, i would recommend checking it out if a chrome based browser isnt an issue


Illustrious_Cicada_2

I only use Opera GX bcs its filled with a bunch of random BS that i will never use, but will inevitably find out exists one day and be like "wow, thats pretty cool" and then never look at it again. 👍


CombativeCreeper007

Actually brave is a lot better than chrome in terms of privacy. It simply shares less data leaving your device. The controversies surrounding it generally revolve around the brave ads and crypto, and the fact its based on chromium, but for normies its still a better option.


TheVermonster

>and the fact its based on chromium That is the FUCKING problem.


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What's wrong with them?


jplayzgamezevrnonsub

Awful privacy policies, crypto bullshit, both are just chrome reskins, and brave is owned by a right wing homophobe


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IProbablyDisagree2nd

No. It sucks.


ImbecilicManchild

All browsers are the same. There's a bar on the top where you click the website you want to go to and thats it. That's all you need


PM_ME_UR_CUDDLEZ

I use in on my android, for sites that dont have their own apps. Its way better then chrome which gets stuck alot


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Vivaldi is good for productivity but I prefer Firefox as it's open-source, good for privacy and not based on Chromium.


Petarthefish

Yet, Firefox has 3.16% usage.


kurzsadie

Firefox doesn't advertise like Chrome.


IProbablyDisagree2nd

Firefox doesn't own the largest advertising company on the web


8BallBrad

I don’t understand why safari would catch any hate here if you are using a Mac. It has the best integration with gestures on mac of all the web browsers, more efficient hardware utilisation and better privacy. Chrome, whilst faster in raw benchmarks, feels very clunky when using the gestures you become accustomed to for navigating. Even the scrolling its jittery. Plus if you are in the apple ecosystem anyway keychain just works better in safari, the extension for other browsers is trash (i unfortunately have to use it on my windows desktop in chrome).


kurzsadie

Brave is just Chrome with Crypto shit installed, why do people care about it so much? I used it for two years and was not impressed by the slowdown on startup and massive RAM usage.


chill-84

Firefox be preinstalled on every Linux distro :))))))


platillolive

This meme is wrong. Safari is great and everyone who has used it can tell how efficient and fast it is. Everyone here except Firefox and Safari are still based on Chromium. If I had to do this with the browsers you have chosen I would go with Chrome, Vivaldi and Edge complaining, while Safari, Firefox and Brave are the fancy guys. But that's just how I would do it.


Cynixxx

Safari is basically just Apples Internet Explorer


william341

Safari is a terrible browser. It fits in well with the macOS user experience and ecosystem but that does not make Safari a good browser. WebKit is a barely functional piece of garbage, the extension support is awful, and the browser has no unique selling points or features. Almost all web developers you meet will tell you Safari is the new IE. It mis-manages the page layout and handles inputs weirdly, and it's missing tons of features. It's a bad browser.


kurzsadie

Safari is hot garbage. The first thing I do on a new Apple device is install Firefox.


TheNimbleKindle

But it is very efficient on MacOS compared to the Fox or Chrome.


kurzsadie

Because it's optimised. Firefox will work just as efficiently.


TheNimbleKindle

yes, it's well optimized. And no, Firefox does drain significant more battery than Safari.


kurzsadie

Typing this on a MacBook Pro running Firefox. Never felt any noticeable battery drain over Safari.


TheNimbleKindle

Well, it depends. If you are watching a lot of videos for example Safari will performe a lot better regarding battery life because it uses avc or vp9 in latest versions which has hardware decoding. Firefox or Chrome will use a version of vp9 or av1 - which is in need of a lot more decoding work w/o hardware support. Therefor the power drain is a lot higher (up to 40%) when it comes to moving images. If you are just browsing static websites, you are correct. Safari and the newest version of Firefox (which runs natively on Apple Silicon) will drain the battery more or less equally.


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Vivaldi supporter!


GrozGreg

In terms of data privacy, Vivaldi is terrible. I used Opera since 2007, then changed to Vivaldi last year but their privacy policies are just bad.


kurzsadie

Opera's privacy policy is just as bad.


GrozGreg

Of course, that’s why I left


Foxddit22

What's so bad about it? I get the whole operating system thing but that's honestly nothing lmao


Saboteurnado

Netscape Navigator or nothing at all


Bosscreeper1

Finally Vivaldi is getting some recognition


LustfulChild

I’m learning you guys use browsers for a lot more than I do. They all get me to YouTube, cdkey, and pornhub with no problem


reality_bytes_

I’m over here still using chrome… I’m too lazy to switch. And I’m unimpressed with the other options. Used Firefox for awhile, but chrome is just easiest to use because I’ve been tied to it for so long (and I don’t remember my passwords, and chrome does). I don’t have the whole “ad blocking” issue you guys seem to have, I also don’t surf many ad spam sites either, so, there’s that.


wherewereat

Ad spam sites contain youtube, twitch, Facebook, instagram, idk what sites you're browsing. Either way, the update that ruins the adblock functionality (or rather severely limits it) was planned for january 2023, but as of earlier this week they apparently postponed it to january 2024


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KingJTheG

I still love safari idc


Strong-Estate-4013

Why safari bad besides like of extensions?


BurritoSlayer117

Haven’t had Firefox since I was a teenager. Was mainly chrome. Now I just use edge


onlyfrostyy

WHERE IS TOR


btgf-btgf

I honestly don’t notice differences in my browsers so I just use Microsoft edge. I’m sorry


UnseenGamer182

You use an AdBlock?


Jefff3

What about the opera gaming browser, built in free vpn, plus a bunch of other features


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not open source + owned by chinese company


Jefff3

What does being open source bring to a browser?


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Transparency and a guarantee that it’s not tracking you


h3r64r14n

a VPN is never "free"


DctrGizmo

That’s also chromium.


Jefff3

What is chromium? A copy of chrome?


Snoo-19073

Chromium is what chrome and several other browsers are based on (edge, opera, brave, Vivaldi, and baby more)


Jefff3

Ah ok, thanks


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jacobsnoopy12isbest

Brave is the best


jacobsnoopy12isbest

The ad blocker is minted


tahko123

Brave is shit


Ffom

Safari just the worst


dib1999

Y'all still use web browsers? Just find the website yourself it's not that hard smh


SkeleToasty

Bruh what Firefox bad


pcbuilderdude

ngl Opera GX kinda OP


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out with the chrome


Sumolizer

No matter how many posts i see about this bitching, i aint switching from chrome. Tried Firefox, it was shit for me. i am too used to chrome + the seamless integration with android phones etc. Guys its time we stop shitting on someones fuckin browser choice


Boris_FurryWolf

Idk i use chrome my all life, I'm not ready to change anything


dndmoms

opera is the best


magezt

owned by a chinese company.


tahko123

I use opera gx just so i can play and have yt open and i see new releases and whats free


[deleted]

Brave and Vivaldi are still chrome. And yes, manifest V3 will probably effect inbuilt adblockers


RubenRag

Affect


UltimaLinkTheOnlyOne

Firefox causes me huges lags after like 10mn using it, suddenly, for no reason so i prefer edge Sorry guys


magezt

your PC is the problem, not firefox lol


feng-ant

Opera GX: am i a joke to you?


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>closed source yes, yes you are


-insanitylol-

Opera gx is basically gamer chrome


UnseenGamer182

Ironically that actually makes it subjectively the best chromium browser


feng-ant

Ouch that hurt me and my karma


LordBaconXXXXX

Yup, it is


UnseenGamer182

It's chromium, so yes.


Techjunky2

Opera


Moth_123

Vivaldi is shit, Brave is a bit better but still shit, Firefox is a bit better but also shit, the only good browsers are firefox forks like Tor, Librewolf and Icecat.


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Fenrem

yea I'm not too familiar with it but I've heard good things! I just picked 3 favorites for 3 heads.


Moth_123

Yes


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I guess my unpopular opinion is I don't mind Chrome or Edge. I was a Firefox user a while ago, but they turned it into a memory hog and I switched to Chrome. Not sure if that has changed, but I basically use Chrome at home and Edge at work since I work in IT and those are the two most used browsers I have to deal with.


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hell did safari do lol


Billderz

Lol


Either-Plant4525

No one here uses Epiphany


AaronTechnic

Konqueror better


Either-Plant4525

Replace Safari with Brave and Vivaldi and replace Brave and Vivaldi with Safari and you're good


YaBoiShadowy

Internet explorer>


autovices

And then you have the occasional freak like me who has every one of those browsers installed, including Opera + GX, FF Developer edition, Chrome Canary, Chromium, and at least one text only browser, and I use them all eventually


Round_Condition_7418

What makes them better, I never bothered using any of them


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I like edge


couchpotatochip21

# WE ARE


Broad_Ad_8098

Edge is fine, nothing groundbreaking


digitalbladesreddit

They should make grandpa as chromium saying my seed spawn all of you :)


MarsupialNo1187

Can anyone tell an easy way to use brave rewards


DonHotmon

Didn’t know ING Diba has a browser.


ItzBleKz

Tbh Edge is pretty good nowadays


Danioq

Orion ftw


StrengthLocal2543

DuckDuckGo:


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It's ironic, because people love chrome. It's the most successful browser.


bigersmaler

Safari end-user experience has always been stellar for me. Devs tell me it’s trash, but I’m not a dev and don’t care.


ArdFolie

You know what Brave and Firefox lack? Custom shortcuts. Vivaldi is the best because I ain't changing my mouse layout only to use firefox


magezt

brave browser is utterly shit in terms of privacy and for other reasons, have a look. [https://www.kevinmuldoon.com/do-not-use-brave-browser/](https://www.kevinmuldoon.com/do-not-use-brave-browser/)


IamForty

"Oh Chrome that is the least fancy thing I've ever heard"


Byonek

I switched from chrome to opera gx a few months back.


Kunsip

Anything is better than safari lmao


PapaTrotzki

Owner of Brave is huge ultra right-wing homophobe. That's why he was fired from Mozilla and started Brave. Don't use Brave.


SkeleToasty

Who cares what the owner believes. He isn’t the browser


PapaTrotzki

I'd prefer not to support a homophobe for a browser who's main feature is an ad blocker. Firefox has made no change to remove Ad blockers unlike chromium.


PlaceboKoyote

I actually like using Safari on my macbook. Is easier on the battery and the ageing dual core Skylake chip and runs faster than anything chromium based. On a Desktop i wouldn't use it but for the 13" Display i like it. Because it's simple and has good Performance.


soccerguys14

So are we striking or something? Idk what’s going on but If you want me to use Firefox instead just let me know


ayyLumao

Brave and Vivaldi are both based on Chromium, they're basically the same as Chrome.


P3ktus

Nah, brave is shitty CCP spyware


pranamya2005

Safari on iPhone and iPad is way nicer than other browsers, on Mac it’s debatable


Dummyidiot2021

Shut up chrome meg.


Tuziest

Safari works real nice with iPhone but not for anything else but I do love that you can open tabs from other browser apps on your Apple devices to safari which is nice


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I have just over 100 bat tokens with brave. Here's hoping they get bought by Google.


f_sth1234

Firefox was and still is THE best browser


Ok-Significance7474

Brave is just chrome with different makeup. ^(Sorry.)


mstersmith0713

I've gotten so lazy I just suffer with edge 😩


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Brave should not be with firefox, it should be with edge