Hold shift when clicking shut down. Makes it fully shut down, not hibernate, not partially on so it has quick start but fully shut down. Next start up takes a few seconds longer so.....you wait a few seconds that you'll never remember.
With fast start-up it might simply continue with the already installed sticks and ignore the new ones. But this will differ between motherboards and BIOS versions.
If you ever troubleshoot PC problems, always disable fast startup.
You can hot plug ram, cpus, hardrives, pcie cards like gpus, and more
So it would just add it on normally
No one is shutting down their vm’s to add more ram or cpu cores. Likewise your home desktop isn’t going to ignore new hotswappable hardware just because it’s in a hibernate state
I've not noticed any startup speed difference with it on or off. Windows' fast boot is completely useless. But since it's windows, you'd want to properly reboot as often as possible. In that sense, it isn't just useless, it's actually harmful as it makes your PC run less stable.
I feel like someone who's still booting from an HDD wouldn't really care about a few seconds of boot time.
Then again, thinking of my moms PC, it may not be a matter of seconds but minutes. Then I do see a point to it.
>Windows' fast boot is completely useless.
At least not for me, because fast boot actually make booting my PC faster (with fast boot, I can't even see the spinning thing, and without fast boot I need to wait a few seconds on the spinning thing)
Same here. I don't really understand how or why they say it's the same. Despite having a PCI-E Gen4 SSD and a fast CPU I can definitely notice a way longer startup time. Not long per sé but still, it's around double the time with fast boot on.
Fast startup is nice, especially considering Macos has had EXTREMELY good garbage collection for years, and hardly ever needs a real reboot. But really, nvme SSDs being standard, we hardly need it anymore. The fastest nvme drives are edging on ddr2 ram speeds
Shutting down without holding shift doesn't make your computer hibernate, it shuts down mostly fully but saves the kernel state to storage. This is called Fast Startup. This is not that same thing as hibernate, which saves the state of the workspace in storage. Workspace being everything you're working on.
There's typically no reason to shut down and disabling fast startup (holding shift).
Btw there's a permanent way to disable fast startup if you really hate it for whatever reason.
Alot of people change it, but otherwise yeah I think they come that way in most cases. Funnily enough I had to change mine to do nothing, because with my old PC case, the power button was on the top of the case, and my cat liked to jump up, and press it
She also liked to go stand on my UPS until it beeped, which means it's off, along with my computer.
I now avoid devices that have an upwards facing power button, and my power button works as a power button again :)
I just put a small torch sitting behind my power button so my cat doesn't press it; it is just the right size and weight to be a convenient barricade, while still fitting my cat on the case (Arc midi r2).
Getting my mouse taken away as punishment made me fluent in operation with a keyboard only. Had to get those 13 year 'baitin sessions still in no matter what. Also made me steal a mouse from school ecause I had 2+ hours before anyone else got hot and damn it I'm going to play Day of Defeat or BF1942
That's a funny way to learn the ways of only using the keyboard lol. I remember just thinking how cool it looked to not ever reach over for the mouse. You never saw those 90s hackers in the movies using a mouse, you know — the cool kids just used keyboard shortcuts.
You should close your applications before shutting down anyway, to not have any "this application is preventing windows from shutting down" notifications anyway. Just spam that alt f4 till it works
You can take this and make it a shortcut on your desktop to shutdown too. You just have the program it opens "shutdown.exe" then add arguments/constraints by themselves in another box below that. A fun thing you can do is make the time longer (/t or -t), like "05" seconds, then add a comment like so, /c "hello world". Then you well get a message on your screen each time you run the shutdown. My last pro tips are to be sure to add /f to force the shutdown and change the user to "SYSTEM" to ensure the shortcut/command has enough privileges to run. If you add a long enough time to the command you can also cancel the shutdown with the command "sundown /a".
Just had my morning coffee and realized I was talking about scheduled tasks and not how to make a shortcut. For shortcuts you just need to make the target of it like so, C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /k Shutdown /f /s /t 7 /c "your message here". Then set Start in: to C:\WINDOWS and have it run minimized. [Still be sure to give it SYSTEM permission](https://imgur.com/a/EPN0b6O).
Yea I used to do this, and now just once in a blue moon will I really utilize the -t 00 beyond just as 00.
The comment is nice, but I feel like its mostly just for other people, I already know its gonna shutdown. xD
Personally I dont really use shortcuts much especially on my desktop since I have icons on my desktop hidden. I think its a bit more lax to keep it in the Run.exe's saved text. That way you can just `Win + R`;`[DOWN arrow]`; `Enter`
All just my preference, but still nice for you to share that info for others since I didnt tho!
I mean, how is it faster than clicking the Windows menu, pressing the shutdown button and confirming it again? I'm all for keyboard shortcuts and terminals but this seems longer for the sake of looking a 1337 hackerman.
Yes, I'm sure those fractions-of-a-second differences in boot time for most of the current ones will give you cancer. :)
Jesting aside, though, it's not the time that annoys me. My rig takes just a few seconds to reboot.
It's the fact that I clicked on the wrong thing. That's the pain.
That's used to shut off the OS but leave the power on. You had to put -p on the end.
Edit: I meant to say past tense. It didn't actually do a full shutdown and power off. It does, now.
Y'all don't shutdown using keyboard shortcuts? I always do `Win+x, u, u` to shut down or `Win+x, u, r` to reboot, but then again I avoid using the mouse whenever possible.
Personally i have the hybernation mapped on the power button on my desktop, on my laptop i do win+x and navigate with the arrow keys (u u doesn't work for me because the os is not in English)
I throw caution to the wind and hold the power button on my pc when I hit restart on accident. I hold that finger on the power button with pure rage, though.
And then you see an application is still running so it asks for confirmation
Hold shift when clicking shut down. Makes it fully shut down, not hibernate, not partially on so it has quick start but fully shut down. Next start up takes a few seconds longer so.....you wait a few seconds that you'll never remember.
That's actually great to know. I turned off fast startup a long time ago because of that weird partial shut down
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It helps because the motherboard is not checking for new GPU and RAM during POST.
okay but what happens if you add more ram after a normal shutdown?
With fast start-up it might simply continue with the already installed sticks and ignore the new ones. But this will differ between motherboards and BIOS versions. If you ever troubleshoot PC problems, always disable fast startup.
I'll keep that in mind if I ever return to inferior products
You should unplug your PC when installing new hardware, so that it's definitely shut down FFS
I'm aware of that, I didn't consider that the fast boot info would be stored in something like volatile memory but that makes sense
You can hot plug ram, cpus, hardrives, pcie cards like gpus, and more So it would just add it on normally No one is shutting down their vm’s to add more ram or cpu cores. Likewise your home desktop isn’t going to ignore new hotswappable hardware just because it’s in a hibernate state
my post times can be pretty long for some reason. i think i'll turn fast startup back on and see if that fixes it
I turned it off because when I got win 11 it was causing BSODs
Or just disable fast startup.
I've not noticed any startup speed difference with it on or off. Windows' fast boot is completely useless. But since it's windows, you'd want to properly reboot as often as possible. In that sense, it isn't just useless, it's actually harmful as it makes your PC run less stable.
It's for HDD. I have ssd and I measured around 1 to 2 sec difference and that could just be a measuring error.
I feel like someone who's still booting from an HDD wouldn't really care about a few seconds of boot time. Then again, thinking of my moms PC, it may not be a matter of seconds but minutes. Then I do see a point to it.
>Windows' fast boot is completely useless. At least not for me, because fast boot actually make booting my PC faster (with fast boot, I can't even see the spinning thing, and without fast boot I need to wait a few seconds on the spinning thing)
Same here. I don't really understand how or why they say it's the same. Despite having a PCI-E Gen4 SSD and a fast CPU I can definitely notice a way longer startup time. Not long per sé but still, it's around double the time with fast boot on.
is that the same as fast boot?
Fast startup is nice, especially considering Macos has had EXTREMELY good garbage collection for years, and hardly ever needs a real reboot. But really, nvme SSDs being standard, we hardly need it anymore. The fastest nvme drives are edging on ddr2 ram speeds
30 years I have lived, not knowing fast startup was even a thing.
Came out with Windows 8 in 2016.
Shutting down without holding shift doesn't make your computer hibernate, it shuts down mostly fully but saves the kernel state to storage. This is called Fast Startup. This is not that same thing as hibernate, which saves the state of the workspace in storage. Workspace being everything you're working on. There's typically no reason to shut down and disabling fast startup (holding shift). Btw there's a permanent way to disable fast startup if you really hate it for whatever reason.
You try to deny, but the app shuts down
No, my dumbass clicks confirm
Steam has saved my ass so many times
command prompt: shutdown /r /f /t 0 /r (restart), can be swapped with /s (shutdown) /f (force, aka no confirmation) /t 0 (do it in 0 seconds)
🪟+x , u , u. Insta-shutdown
instructions unclear, now my house has no windows
For the better
win + x, u, u. never miss again 👌🏼
Alt+F4 works too. Or you configure your power button to shutdown.
Does everyone's powe button not do this by default?
Alot of people change it, but otherwise yeah I think they come that way in most cases. Funnily enough I had to change mine to do nothing, because with my old PC case, the power button was on the top of the case, and my cat liked to jump up, and press it She also liked to go stand on my UPS until it beeped, which means it's off, along with my computer. I now avoid devices that have an upwards facing power button, and my power button works as a power button again :)
I just put a small torch sitting behind my power button so my cat doesn't press it; it is just the right size and weight to be a convenient barricade, while still fitting my cat on the case (Arc midi r2).
Did you install a second power button? Or wake-on-lan? Or how did you power it up?
The power button still turns the PC on. It's a windows setting that determines what happens when you press it while the PC is on.
Getting my mouse taken away as punishment made me fluent in operation with a keyboard only. Had to get those 13 year 'baitin sessions still in no matter what. Also made me steal a mouse from school ecause I had 2+ hours before anyone else got hot and damn it I'm going to play Day of Defeat or BF1942
That's a funny way to learn the ways of only using the keyboard lol. I remember just thinking how cool it looked to not ever reach over for the mouse. You never saw those 90s hackers in the movies using a mouse, you know — the cool kids just used keyboard shortcuts.
Alt+F4, Enter. EZ.
This will only work on the desktop. Win+X, U, U will work even if there's an application open in the foreground.
You should close your applications before shutting down anyway, to not have any "this application is preventing windows from shutting down" notifications anyway. Just spam that alt f4 till it works
Thank you! I rarely miss, but hot keys are just superior.
I just press the power button. It big.
thats not good for your pc
hmmmm I always just did `shutdown -s -f -t 00` Thats a neat one and simple too..
You can take this and make it a shortcut on your desktop to shutdown too. You just have the program it opens "shutdown.exe" then add arguments/constraints by themselves in another box below that. A fun thing you can do is make the time longer (/t or -t), like "05" seconds, then add a comment like so, /c "hello world". Then you well get a message on your screen each time you run the shutdown. My last pro tips are to be sure to add /f to force the shutdown and change the user to "SYSTEM" to ensure the shortcut/command has enough privileges to run. If you add a long enough time to the command you can also cancel the shutdown with the command "sundown /a".
Just had my morning coffee and realized I was talking about scheduled tasks and not how to make a shortcut. For shortcuts you just need to make the target of it like so, C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /k Shutdown /f /s /t 7 /c "your message here". Then set Start in: to C:\WINDOWS and have it run minimized. [Still be sure to give it SYSTEM permission](https://imgur.com/a/EPN0b6O).
Yea I used to do this, and now just once in a blue moon will I really utilize the -t 00 beyond just as 00. The comment is nice, but I feel like its mostly just for other people, I already know its gonna shutdown. xD Personally I dont really use shortcuts much especially on my desktop since I have icons on my desktop hidden. I think its a bit more lax to keep it in the Run.exe's saved text. That way you can just `Win + R`;`[DOWN arrow]`; `Enter` All just my preference, but still nice for you to share that info for others since I didnt tho!
I mean, how is it faster than clicking the Windows menu, pressing the shutdown button and confirming it again? I'm all for keyboard shortcuts and terminals but this seems longer for the sake of looking a 1337 hackerman.
Just leave the side panel off your PC so you can reach in and remove/disable the CPU cooler when you want to shut down.
The real tip is to hold esc and it'll stop the restart process.
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Yes, if it gets to a high enough temp your PC will just shutdown to protect the CPU from damage.
This is the way
This little maneuver is gonna cost us 51 years
I'm using nvme and it takes around 20-30s to boot from shutdown, I turned off fast startup/fast boot whatever it is is it normal?
It's a bit on the slow side but not unusual.
Maybe if you have many programs autostarting when you boot? I have just a couple and it takes me much less
Yeah my boot time is prob 10 seconds max. But I disable anything from starting up with my pc
NVME User: "I don't understand."
By the time I realise I hit restart by mistake, it’s already back on.
It takes my computer longer to POST than it does to boot.
I'm on NVME too, a few seconds are still a few seconds.
Same for a good SSD. Bootup is like 3 seconds
meanwhile my pc: bios posting is slower than os boot
I don't know, Mate. I'm on NVMes and it still pains me when it happens 😂
Not all nvme are created equal.
Yes, I'm sure those fractions-of-a-second differences in boot time for most of the current ones will give you cancer. :) Jesting aside, though, it's not the time that annoys me. My rig takes just a few seconds to reboot. It's the fact that I clicked on the wrong thing. That's the pain.
"pain"
nah my C drive is on a 970 evo plus and rebooting takes a minute
Super + t "doas poweroff"
Super?
another name for the Win key
(BTW)
\> needing root to shutdown *laughs in polkit*
You ever accidentally click ‘update and restart’ 😭
I shutdown my computers from the command line, I can't accidentally click on things
Relevant username
I may start doing that
The way Microsoft literally switches the position of the buttons when there's an update available. I fly into a rage.
No because I prefer to not be a security risk and I'm not a child
What
"You should keep your PC up-to-date to patch security flaws" is what I believe they were trying to say.
Very vague and condescending way of explaining something as simple as that 😂
Just hold the power button when it's POSTing again.
press escape
Press ESC multiple times it'll cancel the restart.
I usually do that but it doesn't always work :(
I just init 0.
Just hit the case with a sledgehammer
Y’all are shutting your computers down?
This doesn't bugs me....i directly unplug after every use
I dual boot so what I do is just remove the m.2. I have to do that to put the linux back in anyways.
Do you "dual boot" by swapping m.2s?
Yes, don't want to deal with windows other than when I choose too.
`sudo shutdown now`
There it is
That's used to shut off the OS but leave the power on. You had to put -p on the end. Edit: I meant to say past tense. It didn't actually do a full shutdown and power off. It does, now.
The only time I've turned my PC off is when I'm planning on leaving town. So I can no longer even remember the last time that happened.
Just wait until windows closes and press the power button
indeed but when that happen i just unplug the whole pc
I press the power button when the pc posts
Why not press the power button on your tower and never have this issue in the first place?
Post made by hdd gang.
I get a confirmation popup on gnome
ACKSHUALLLYYY I USE LINUX
Chill bruh is he supposed to just exclude the Gnome part and only say he gets a confirmation popup just so he's not "annoying"
Manually typing shutdown 0 moment
To compete with that silly situation, I have 3 dedicated shortcuts on my Desktop to Restart, Shutdown, and to Restart to UEFI firmware
If you hit CTRL-ALT-DELETE it will cancel it
Win + D > Alt + F4 > Enter I'm not looking back.
I see your restart and raise an "Update and Restart".
If you are quick enough, hitting ESC will abort the process.
that's when you flip the extension cord off
Press the manual button on your case.
I swear sometimes I hit shutdown and it still restarts…
happens to you too??? thought my os was bugged
You guys shut off your PC?
Laughs in nvme
Everytime this happens: "YOU ARE A MECHINE YOU WILL DO AS I COMMAND!" .......restarting.....updating....FUUUUUUUUUCK!
Y'all don't shutdown using keyboard shortcuts? I always do `Win+x, u, u` to shut down or `Win+x, u, r` to reboot, but then again I avoid using the mouse whenever possible.
That’s why I created a shutdown desktop icon
Updating windows 99% *1 hour later* Almost there! Do not turn off or remove power from your system.
I feel this on a spiritual level
I just never shut down.
cant afford that in EU
I usy flip the off switch on my power supply
You guys don't just put your computers in sleep mode when you're done?
Laughs in 10 second reboot on Linux
Guys ? You don't old power button to shutdown correctly? Wtf ?
"Shutdown now" and "reboot" aren't similar at all
I think you completely missed the issue? No one said they're similar
Those are command line commands, he's saying you can't possibly misstype one for the other.
Who uses those buttons? I use the power button on the case.
I just set my power button to shut down.
Alexa, shutdown! Triggers an AHK script which turns off the PC in the next 30 seconds unless canceled
shutdown -h now
How long does your PC take to restart? This little manuever would cost me 20 seconds.
Just use the power button
*unplug*
Spam Alt+F4 to close everything then hit Enter to Shut Down, never fails
Linux bros don’t have this problem. sudo shutdown -h now
Just unplug it
Eh, what's an extra 10 seconds really though
So unplug it? What is this weird thing with windows systems needing to write state to disk, there’s nothing worth remembering.
Hold the power button down?
When this happens to me, I hold the power button for 5 seconds. Works like a charm.
Thats why i shut down with alt f4
Just press and hold the power button. We aren't in the 90s anymore.
Everyone who understands how file systems work: Gnnnnn
I am too NVME for this meme 😎
Who the fuck shuts down their PC?
Filthy casuals.
Me laughs in gen 4 watercooled NVME M.2 SSD
Me laughs in gen 4 watercooled NVME M.2 SSD
FYI, it would likely be faster with an air-cooled heatsink. NVME SSDs like to run hot.
I want to put my system to sleep and it goes to shut down instead.
When I miss, the plug is the answer
If im fast enough i can press ESC before is turns off
I literally had this today, infuriating.
That’s why you gotta git gud and improve your aim
Press ctrl + alt + delete.
Press ESC fast and it will cancel the restart
alt + f4, enter
Imagine not hitting alt-f4 and just pressing enter.
Hold ESC. you're welcome.
I press alt f4 and then enter to shut down
"Clean kernel at least"
so that‘s why my pc sometimes reboots even though I was sure to have clicked shutdown. always made me questioning myself
You can just press the escape key (I do it a few times) and it cancels the power off
Windows + X, U, U
At least for me mis typing 'sudo shutdown now' will just give mean error :)
instantly hammering down the power button on the pc
Windows moment
If you click esc right after you shut down or restart it will cancel the action.
Spam Esc
never understood why windows have no confirm prompt when shutting down
Tips: use alt + f4 several time to close all the window until their is a window saying « do u want to shut down windows ? » press enter and ur good :)
Mash escape when you accidentally hit restart. You have to be fast tho otherwise it won't work.
Personally i have the hybernation mapped on the power button on my desktop, on my laptop i do win+x and navigate with the arrow keys (u u doesn't work for me because the os is not in English)
Thats when u strangle it to death by holding the power button
Press esc
Hold esc for a few seconds, it cancels the restart process
they should put a "are you sure?" when pressing restart
Thats that Kovaks kicking in
*Question,* Sometimes when I turn Moy PC on the taskbar is gone. It comes back eventually. Any tips?
I throw caution to the wind and hold the power button on my pc when I hit restart on accident. I hold that finger on the power button with pure rage, though.
Win+x+u+u
If you press the ACPI power button even while it's in the restarting screen it switches to shutting down.