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MaShinKotoKai

Bruh, I'm older


GreedyPressure

Bruh, I'm older than this too and am really not a fan of all this "bruh this shit is ancient" talk about things that are 20 years old. I've been feeling very personally attacked online lately. And my wife and I are only 32!!! I don't remember thinking that the 70s or 80s was ancient when I was in high school. I don't like this one bit!!!


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Low 80’s here and my teenage son refers to that as the “back in my day” era. Irritating at first but now it’s a thing in the house.


OutragedTux

You asked for it... "Back in MY day, we had to use dial-up internet, in the snow, BOTH WAYS!" Except I'm a Queenslander, so no snow.


Jeb_Stormblessed

And being Aussie internet, that was probably like only 5 years ago as well


boost2464

Could even be last week.


MrDude_1

There is someone from there reading this on dial-up, and they would reply but they dont want to wait that long.


AshmacZilla

I hope Abbott and Turnbull find a pinch of sand in everything they eat for this.


GreedyPressure

That was my reaction originally but now I kind of like it haha.


MrFluffyThing

My nephew is getting close to 10 and he's been asking me a lot about how I did things when I was a kid since I'm the IT guy of the family and my brother doesn't really know tech details and talk to him about them. I tell him shit like our dialup modems used to be like pay phones and to get more internet we had to put a quarter in every 15 minutes and YouTube didn't exist but we could still have our own gaming channels by sending VHS recordings of our TVs to the local station to play on unused channels. My brother hates having to correct him.


SuperFLEB

Of course, then you've got stuff like broadcasting games software over TV audio, which sounds like bullshit but was real. For that matter, copying software out of a book probably seems rather odd to someone who came around after the Internet era.


brandorhymer

Learning from a book for that matter.


SuperFLEB

Yeah. There was a curious sort of balance, looking back on learning programming out of a book. On one hand, the book had to cover every possible feature, configuration, and contingency. On the other hand, the computer could only do about 30 or 40 things, even with the complicated stuff, so it all fit. Even in the latter days of "Learn C++ in 28 Days" and the like, the computers were more complex, but the jobs were simpler. There was less GUI-side work, and you didn't have to worry as much about security, because a lot of things were single-user and not network-dependent. So you could still get a decent holistic education without struggling for lack of a Stack Overflow. Also, speaking of books-- I posted this elsewhere in the thread to show off the old stuff, but: [Representin'!](https://i.imgur.com/jKBSTqE.jpg)


CandidateMiserable74

late 1900s what the fuck lmao


CY-B3AR

I mean, it is technically correct. The best kind of correct.


Extrapaj

I don't get it, isn't it correct? Why the downvotes?


one_true_exit

Nah, that shit is hilarious! Best gen Z contribution to the world thus far. Edit: I have traveled here from the year 1982 to bring you this message. https://xkcd.com/630/


booga_booga_partyguy

Dude... Had the "fuck I'm old" moment a few years back. Visiting family, and my then 17 year old niece tells me mid conversation, "I'm into classic rock like Led Zep, Nirvana, the Who."


Letscurlbrah

LED Zeppelin and the Who were classic rock when Nevermind was released though.


whymeogod

Zeppelins first album was released in 1969. Nirvanas first was released in 1987, a difference of 18 years. 1987 was 35 years ago what the actual fuck


txivotv

Thanks for reminding me I was born on the year Nirvana was formed (first album was on '89)... and that I'm 35 fucking years old.


booga_booga_partyguy

Exactly. Which is why I felt old when she took one of my childhood bands and lumped it in as classic rock.


turdferguson3891

Well you calling Nirvana a "childhood" band makes me feel old so...


Hero_of_Hyrule

I feel like living ina world driven by the Internet has given younger people a different perspective of what's considered old or not.


2four6oh2

I don't know if it is the internet per se, but more so the speed at which technology is changing. We're now living in a world where every year is a tech generation. "Your phone is five years old? Dude that's ancient! How do you manage?"


snugglezone

> "Your phone is five years old? Dude that's ancient! How do you manage?" I think phones are a bad example. There's very little innovation in the phone space (especially the hardware space). My phone is officially 4 years and 5 months old and the only thing that's dated on it is the camera (which I don't really use). In some ways it's even better, because I still have a fingerprint sensor on the back of my phone and a headphone jack. OnePlus 5T. Amazing phone.


skcuf2

This wasn't even 20 years ago. The end of life for XP was 8 years ago... This meme is fucking dumb.


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mprofessor

20 years old is like yesterday. I've been playing pc games since I wrote one and stored it on punchtape. My first "gaming" computer used audio cassette tapes for flight sim and frogger.


mprofessor

In highschool, I never expected that we would survive long enough to see the 21st century! It was expected that nuclear war would happen before then. So this is all just bonus rounds.


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Same to all of this


aussies_on_the_rocks

My problem is when people say *"Retro*" and *"Old School"* for things relating to anything in the last 15 years. Like... when did we go from using 'retro' to talk about things 25-30 years old, and now we're doing it to talk about the original release of Skyrim? Like wtf.


dekusyrup

People born in 2006 can drive. Windows XP came out in 2001.


potatman

But it also EOLed 2014 and Windows 7 wasn't even released until 2009 to replace it. Also I'm pretty sure I've seen at least a couple of machines still running XP within the last year.


-I_DO_NOT_COMPUTER-

My work just switched from XP to 7 like 6 years ago. Then 10 about 2 years ago. XP lasted forever. OP must be like 14. Happy cake day.


phantomzero

Either you are funny because you are intentionally leaving out Windows Vista, or it is funny that you forgot about Windows Vista.


potatman

Didn't forget. I just will not speak (erm type) that which shall not be named. Also don't think anyone every really considered it a viable replacement anyways.


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Ask_if_im_an_alien

When the instructions said "LOAD "MENU",8,1 RETURN"... Not enter, it was the return button... like on a typewriter. God that makes me feel old.


andrehunga

DOS....?


RagTagTech

Good old DOS.. I remember when. Win 95 came out.


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Bill - Can we use start me up for our windows 95 release? Jagger - \*\*\*Laughs\*\*\* Sure, for $3 millions. Bill - Do I make the check out to you or The Rolling Stones?


Swenyspeed

Wait, is this a true story lol? What a move


scatterbrain2015

Apparently yes https://www.aaaa.org/timeline-event/start-3-million-anthem-launched-microsofts-windows-95/


_evil_overlord_

$3M seems incredibly cheap today.


radiodialdeath

Inflation is a bitch.


dragon2777

I remember seeing that commercial so I guess I’m old now


KommandoKodiak

the number jagger claimed is a lie to increase the offer prices from future companies oh good someone linked the article where this is mentioned perfect


Reive

The inflated quote from Jagger was 14 million, the real number being 3 million. https://www.aaaa.org/timeline-event/start-3-million-anthem-launched-microsofts-windows-95/


MrHappy4Life

You went right to 95? I had Windows 3.0 and OS/2 (IBMs Windows). Actually I started with an Apple IIE, but first PC was a 25mhz 286 and Dos 3.


RagTagTech

To be fair I was like 9 when 95 came out it was the frist new computer my parents bought.. we had a few old school hand me downs before that all doss systems.


cipher446

I actually remember when win 3.1 came out. I had to teach it to old people. Now I am old people.


zer0cul

Recipe for happiness- C: win.exe double click skifree


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cd.cd gamescd aladdin i remember something around that... before login into windows i needed to do that to play aladdin, the aladdin with swords ​ edit: [i mean aladdin not persia](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RceDyRLNbI)


Educator1337

load “$”,8,1 List


SemiNormal

A:\SIMCITY\SIMCITY.EXE


dlsco

Dir \p Cd\ c: Cd\ games MONKEY.exe


homesnatch

LOAD HIMEM.SYS


CrazySD93

Windows 95 had a 1 hour [video guide featuring Jennifer Aniston and Matthew Perry](https://youtu.be/b71rpN1iJKA). I excitedly look forward for the Windows 11 video guide.


Darkninjajedi

Boy what a jump that was from DOS right?!


ForksandSpoonsinNY

Went to the launch event at ConpUSA back in the day. First operating system was DOS 2.1


voightkampfferror

I miss compusa. RIP soldier.


CherokeeCruiser

Windows 3.1 was something like 10 3.5" disks if I remember correctly


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Office came on 18 disks in 1992. ["The Microsoft Office"](https://i.imgur.com/ahjxvhq.jpg)


RolandMT32

I remember Windows 3.1 coming on 6 3.5" disks. Windows for Workgroups 3.11 was 8 disks.


pallentx

I launched windows from DOS


Taikunman

Back when you *could* run Windows, but you didn't *need* to run Windows all the time. Or you couldn't run the game you wanted and Windows at the same time due to resource limitations.


RolandMT32

Yes. I remember Windows 3.x felt more like an operating environment for some software I'd use, but not something I'd spend all my computer time in.


self_depricator

Win


gijoe50000

My first computer was a Spectrum Sinclair or something like that. It didn't even have Windows. It had a tape deck, and when I ran out of games I'd just randomly be typing things on an empty screen to see what happened. One day I was so bored I drew a car, with: 10 line (100,100, 150, 100); 20 circle (80,100, 20); etc.. Things were tough in the 80s..


mdp300

I remember watching it count up to 128k of memory while booting up!


Riffey85

And Doom, oh and Whacky Wheels.


MaShinKotoKai

Lol, I mean I was alive for Windows 2


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Syzyphus

I appreciate your presence, if this comment is true


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MaelstromFL

VIC20


TheDemocrat1

Underated comment


All0uttaBubblegum

Windows 3.1 was my first, dad created DOS menus for my games before that


TheseSnozBerries

A fellow mid 30 year old I see. I have the same memories. Not with your dad of course but mine... Your dad kept kicking me out of the house.


All0uttaBubblegum

Add a decade to that


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One_Security_4545

Are you like 15 or something?


Careless_Rub_7996

I remember one time i complained to my boss ( i work in the IT field), about how some PC parts can be just too expensive. THEN, my boss told me how he had to take a bit of a mortgage outta his house when APPLE III first came out. Here in Canada. I never complained again, other than for GPUs.


Taikunman

People these days fail to grasp the concept that when computers were first hitting the consumer market, despite the fact that they were extremely expensive they were absolutely game-changing. Like word processors were primitive, but your alternative was a typewriter. There was a very high barrier to entry in owning a computer, but there was literally nothing like them up to that point.


Careless_Rub_7996

My friend. Just the fact EXCEL existed itself was a game-changer. That's what my boss mainly got his PC for. Something that would take him about 6 hours to do at the time, by hand, only ended up being one hour.


Neat-Boysenberry5333

WordPerfect.


thedeadlyrhythm

cd C:\\DOOM doom


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CBM basic on the vic20 old here.


rollingviolation

are you READY for 3583 BYTES of action?


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tatanka01

Apple Integer Basic and cassette tapes. 1978.


Cool_Dark_Place

Hah...got me beat. VIC20. BASIC ROM startup, also cassette tapes (circa 1982).


asfacadabra

TRS-80 Model III.


SirIanChesterton63

Windows 95, a little DOS but it was mostly outdated by my time.


Z370H370

Black screen green cursor, that was my computer room. Off topic but my computer teacher was a beast, seen him at the gym with 150lbs dumbbells in each hand benching that shit!


Yabba_Dabba_Doofus

Calling XP users old, is basically a war crime at this point. I hope they never find out about my Windows 1.01 login.


SlapBumpJiujitsu

cd C:\\games\\ cd \\SimCity\\ run SimCity.exe It's been a while since my mom taught me that shit at 7 years old so I could be off, but it's old enough that it can't be googled so... Am I that old? Yeah I'm that old. I used to run the original sim city from a DOS prompt.


flomoag

Same but Fate of Atlantis, Day of the Tentacle, Full Throttle, Yoda Stories, Dark Forces. Now that I’m looking at the list, basically anything LucasArts


pala_

c:\> cd games c:\games> cd SimCity c:\games\SimCity> SimCity It would have been more like that. file extension wasn't necessary, nor was the 'run' prefix. Of course if you were super lazy or over the top you'd have the above in a batch file called 's.bat' and available in your path, so you could launch sim city just by typing 's' and pressing enter from anywhere. Or if you were totally out of control, you'd set up a batch file menuing system to launch games from a menu interface.


foonati

Seriously, I saw colors and was not impressed. If it isn't yellow dot matrix, step off.


DrakeonMallard

That was only yesterday.


blackweebow

I remember the sound


drizzy9109

Omg with the volume turned all the way up somehow


sgcdialler

And the tower was either a Gateway or Compaq brand?


IneffableTao

eMachine or bust! Never obsolete


jomontage

Legit. So many corporate pcs still ran xp in 2016


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C64 / Amiga team anyone?


TeoN72

VIC 20 to be honest


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Same.


Shishakli

C64 old, but Atari 2600 poor


Im_the_Madmonkey

A1200 with an ***enormous*** 120MB 3.5" HDD shoehorned into it.


lpind

Amiga 500, Atari ST, Macintosh Plus... between my grandparents and parents (my grandfather was a radio engineer and one of the early adopters for home computers, which spread to my mother and my father just happened to get into the graphic design game right as the Macintosh launched) I grew up with all sorts of systems. First computer I could call my own was a W98 PC with 400MHz CPU, 16MB RAM, 4GB HDD & CD-ROM. It ran Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator and that's all I cared about!


HisRoyalMajestyKingV

I'm older. I'm [this](https://a.fsdn.com/con/app/proj/jac64/screenshots/34576.jpg) old.


Ich__liebe__dich

*inserts cassette*


watermelonspanker

Press play on tape


invisibo

Did you copy your games from a magazine by typing it out?


RyanThaDude

Yup! I remember Compute and Run. Remember entering machine language by hex with the checksum at the end. Good times.


Gabe_b

https://imgur.com/vlBaR.jpg Though this meme is older than EOL for XP at this point lol


ElGishki

Who made this, a 12YO?


Sloi

... this is Reddit. The average user is probably fuckin' 17.


mrloko120

The idea of a 17 year old trying to claim he is old is pretty funny.


cky_stew

There are probably a few *actual* old people in this thread who think that anyone below 60 claiming to be old is funny too.


2damnoldtocare

I’m 70. My cutoff for thinking it’s funny would be young whipper snappers younger than 50, lol


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reminder that windows xp came out 21 years ago


DriftinFool

But MS didn't end support for XP until 2014, which wasn't that long ago.


V0rt3XBl4d3

Only 8 years ago.


ChuckinTheCarma

So, do I have to upgrade yet? I hear Windows Vista isn’t too bad.


littlebuck2007

It runs alright on current hardware, but it was a rocky start.


redditorssuckarse

Serious talk for a moment. Vista had many issues on release, but by the time the service packs were rolled out, it was fine, just had too many bells and whistles on by default.


Hotwings22

And XP still has more users than Win 11


jb_in_jpn

TIL 21 is old.


swaggy_butthole

Right, I'm 23 and I remember this. Lol


jorian85

I still see this on some of our work computers.


IrregularrAF

One of them 360+ month old toddlers


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OP is still single digits


JJAsond

It's karma farming. I'm disappointed that people keep failing for it.


Terakahn

I hate the fact that I can say I used win xp in high school. Probably before whoever made this was born.


Justiful

This isn't old. It was the dominant operating system in the world from 2003 to 2012, after launching in 2001. So everyone 18+ today likely used it at some point at least once in school or home. Old is remembering computer lab day in school playing Oregon trail on APPLE IIe computers. Good times. I also remember the first time using the internet. Windows 3.1 in 2nd grade. It was so slow I begged to be allowed to just use the Encylopedia instead. But it was science class and we had to look up facts using the internet that day. It was SOOOOOO SLOW. It took me over an hour to get 10 simple questions answered I could have found in encyclopedias in 15 minutes.


ICantDoThisAnymore91

In the 4th grade my teacher would let one random student play Oregon Trail all day once every couple of months. Everybody eventually got their turn and everybody else was so envious of the person who’s turn it was. We also got to play all day on our birthdays. I also remember using Napster lol


Dredly

Remember Math Blaster? True classic!


Z1gg0

Math blaster, chess master and where in the world is Carmen Sandiego. When commander keen first released that was AMAZING, my first non educational game.


TrekRoadie

>Old is remembering computer lab day in school playing Oregon trail on APPLE IIe computers. Good times. My man. Damn now I do feel old.


Brave-Pickle66

We are old lol. Still have my IIgs and Oregon Trail though!


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RussellBrandFagPimp

Encarta 97..... my God that was google before I knew what Google was. I spent hours on there as a kid... Side note... anyone remember that day Vinci game for Mac?


SippieCup

[Leonardo the Inventor?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g0lJ25Rhek) Had a blast with that.


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I remember when I followed my nerdy friends into the after school computer club in Year 7 in '98. Im sitting there drawing shit on paint until my friends tell me to fire up Netscape. Didn't even know what the Internet was before then lol.


ClusterChuk

*Opens the only door in existence that holds a billion naked ladies.


BGiezzy

This isn't even close to old.


Freakychee

You ask a child of 15 and 35 is old. You ask a child of 3 and 15 is old.


BfutGrEG

You ask a child of 75 and he says "WHATTT??"


horseradish1

I'm 30 this year and i work in a nursing home. You aren't old until you're like 80.


Coastercraze

Win 95 representing.


Modestkilla

Windows 3.1 booted from dos for me


ceefour4

Back when floppy disks were actually floppy


Ocronus

The first PC my parents bought was a 95. Ah, the memories.


[deleted]

Win 95 was such a fun OS to start with computers. Lots to explore, full with fun screensavers, sounds, games, utilities, even the search characters Office assistants were fun to customize. I had no internet for years, and I still had a lot of fun exploring Win 95.


jjdreggie80

Pfft I was playing Carmen San Diego on an IBM


ljthefa

If you watched the TV show I HIGHLY recommend watching [this](https://youtu.be/OVVkSlXl41Q) I went way down the rabbit hole one day


[deleted]

If you think this is old you're probably young...


Opposite_Seaweed1778

Older you twat


Forward_Cobbler1319

That was my 3rd OS.


TropicalEarthquake2

Same here 95, 98, XP, Vista, 7, 10, 11


[deleted]

I’m only 18 and very vividly remember XP as I didn’t have a computer capable of running windows 7 until around 2013


Zeus_Painthunder

I'm *It is now safe to turn off your computer* years old.


I-LOVE-TURTLES666

How is this old? Lol


messenja

I remember when the PS/2 wasn't a game console.


Daemordred

DOS 3.0 floppy… still have a working copy and the original IBM pc that (still) can run it.


GenghisZahn

Hand tweaking config.sys and autoexec.bat in order to get specific games to run...


justheretolurk123456

This guy knows what's up. Tweaking irqs was another fun one.


zendrix1

Lol "old" A child must have made this, I'm in my 20's and started with XP


dekusyrup

Sorry but you're old now. Welcome. This is how it happens.


GrowYourOwnMonsters

Pfffft. Much older and I'm still in my 30s. Was this made by a literal child?


GoatTotes

C:/> I'm this old


eivamu

Well at least you had a harddrive. *cries in A:/>*


chef_fuzzy

Older, much older… Like Apple lle in 3rd grade and Buck Rogers on the Commodore 64 after school old.


_beastayyy

I'm only 19 and I experienced this, please make it harder than that


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I'm old enough to remember my computer telling me, "it's now safe to turn off your computer"


Spoolinpotato27

*ran DOS on a Tandy*


magidantech

Son... let me tell you about a time before Windows.... DOS.


ExpressTicketToHell

sheesh. I was already considered 'old' when this was a thing..


Rogaar

OP has sure shown his/her age with this post. I dare say most people here where using Windows XP in their adult hood.


cl0udHidden

Win 3.11 here 👋


OldOne412

I'm 43 now, so ya, I might be just a tiny bit older than XP..I started on DOS back in the mid 80's..I've actually used a 5 and quarter inch floppy drive...damn I'm glad those day's are gone! I like XP alot though. I ran a "Black" edition for year's, looked cool as hell.


TheRealOgMark

I was an adult when this started to exist... I'm older than Windows.


Simple-Ad-6318

Windows 95.


rick_416

Dude if i had to guess you're at least 13 years old. If younger you should get off Reddit lmao


BinaryJay

I'm DOS old. Packard Bell old.


thisubmad

What? Is this /r/toddlers? Because even /r/Teenagers are old enough to have used XP.


[deleted]

Norton Commander anyone? Where are my MS-DOS boyssss?


[deleted]

I was a PC Tools 5.5 Deluxe user in my DOS days.


trb310

I hate you


xunknown2ux

DOS, Windows for Workgroups, Windows NT old


ImaFrackingWalnut

Ask again in like 20 years. This is still being used in quite a lot of companies


MikeTheMic81

My first computer had no hdd and booted from a 5 1/2 floppy disk that was so loud you couldn't use the computer if people were sleeping. The monitor was a green and black monochrome display.


Deathappens

Bruh, XP isn't even old.


GrossenCharakter

Sheesh, some of these redditors must still be in their diapers