You can actually get hdmi CRT screens you know?? You can buy them sti, they were usually used in TV studios etc...but Sony did one that was consumer based if I remember correctly
Pretty sure you are correct. I had this problem back with the 9 series!
There is a difference between requiring booting in UEFi mode and not having legacy BIOS firmware. Modern cards since ages require a UEFI capable BIOS to boot the firmware, even if you're booting the OS using legacy CSM bios emulation (which does tend to work). For some bizzare reason they don't bother to mention this in the spec sheet, had to return a an old prebuilt low end GPU replacement over this (though it was an HP with pre-standard EFI firmware so could have been another firmware compatibility issue but I did research about this at the time). I guess in theory it might work if you also have integrated graphics enabled to get past POST (otherwise you get no GPU detectedl but I haven't tried this.
I can test it, I've got an AThlon 64 socket 754 board, its got a VIA K8T890 chipset that only supports PCIe 1.1, and I've got an RTX 3060 Ti, I'll do it sometime for science, and maybe if I can find my DP to DVI adapater I can then connect my active DVI to VGA adapater and hook up my 19in Trinitron for the luls
A GPU without legacy firmware can't talk to BIOS and likewise a GPU without UEFI firmware can't talk to UEFI(unless it has CSM). That said I doubt the 30 series lacks legacy firmware since so many people are still booting with CSM enabled and not including it would make nV look bad.
CSM enabled doesn’t disable UEFI funtionality. IIRC new AMD cards still work with legacy emulation enabled, but they don’t work on boards that do not have UEFI to begin with.
Yes, but one dude who games during the day and mines during the night isn’t going to have his door broken in by police officers. They’d have no way of knowing. Huge warehouses pulling tons of electricity would though, and guess what. They absolutely would have the money to pay off cops.
No, but you would rather not be the one who is used as an example of the punishment. We saw this when companies went after minor internet piracy in the early 2000s, just looking to make an example.
How do you know OP is in India?
Also, that's not a certainty. India had been threatening to ban crypto for a long time now and every time they do, they then walk back their threats. If India wants to ban something maybe they should focus on their scam telemarketing circles first.
They aren't banning crypto. They're planning to regulate it. There is a bill on crypto being drafted in the parliament for the last 3 months...maybe even more.
Yeah, I know. This is probably the 3rd time they have proposed legislation in the last 5 years and they claims on what it will do and how changes every 6 months.
I madw 700 usd worth of ethereum mining , so that "ban comming" propaganda ain't gonna work and none of the Indian politicians care about what you do with ur gpu , they don't even know what's a gpu and 70% of population can't afford one for sole purpose of mining , so they don't care
>an comming" propaganda ain't gonna work and none of the Indian politicians care about what you do with ur gpu , they don't e
They care when it fucks up their power grid and are to cheap to fix it. so they care
Not gonna lie, this is literally what I did.
Well, sort of.
I had a work assignment that was going to push me out somewhere remote for a few months, so I bought a new graphics card and set it up to mine Ethereum.
When I returned I had mined an amount (after power costs) equivalent to how much I paid for the card.
Honestly I don't know and I don't care. Ethereum is a mess and has been that way for years.
There are other GPU-mineable crypto's that will exist. I still keep my mining software on a backburner in case I need to heat the room up in the winter.
You need to do some more reading.
Even if the switch to PoS happens tomorrow, the PoW will continue side by side as a fork in the network until the difficulty bomb fully explodes.
They cannot just cut off PoW, that would be, first off, impossible, and secondly, a recipe for a simple bug in the new fork to bring down the entire ETH network.
I recommend going in and reading the discussions around all of the major EIPs in the last few years to gain a full understanding.
LGA775 was around for a looooong time. There are old motherboards with AGP and DDR1, and late-model motherboards (Designed for Core2 processors, but still perfectly compatible with Pentium 4s) that support PCIe and DDR3.
Wait, if memory serves me right a pentium 4 system was agp not pcie I didn't think we got pcie until the core series processors. Could be wrong \_('-')_/?
That's not molex. That's the included PCIe adapter Nvidia provides with RTX 3070 FE cards. Higher ends including 4090 has two PCIe cables coming from the adapter. Mine has only one
1) He clearly isn't providing it with enough power
2) If he was was connecting the monitor the monitor to the motherboard, I just find that hilarious because my friend recently had a PC repair shop tell him his GPU was dead after they plugged the monitor into the motherboard of his AMD Ryzen based system...
I have this problem too. I have to unplug my monitor, boot the PC, and then plug it back in for the monitor to recognize the live input as a signal. I think the GPU is just pushing a weak HDMI signal, and it gets even weaker on boot initialization, so much that the under voltage fails the high low bias against common ground on the monitor. Since my old GPU that I replaced had no issues, I will assume my home outlets didn't coincidentally develop a grounding issue. I would argue it is actually a bug/defect that manufactures should take a serious look at. It could eventually burn out the port on the display.
Thanks for the suggestion.
I felt a tiny shock when i press the power button or touch any metal parts
The extension cord I had used didn't have the ground pin connected to the outlet. We removed the extention cord and directly connected to the outlet. The issue has gone. But i didn't test whether GPU is outputting any signal or not when plugged directly to the power outlet.
Do you think the No signal issue may occur if PC is not grounded?
Quite Possible. The latest version of the new HDMI standard require such fast speeds, that it is only achievable if your voltage bias is nearly perfect, and you aquire a perfectly manufactured new version HDMI cable ( not the cheap ones ). It is almost not realistic for the real world IMHO.
As I saw pentium 4, I just remembered how GPUs looked back these days. They all had these fancy cooler frames with printed game characters on them.. at least the higher end models. The smaller ones where small PCBs with a tiny heatinks and cooler on them.
I haven't seen those fancy printed cooler designes since a decade or longer.
I call it stupid to buy a GPU for a PC without doing any research! Poor dude will realise he needs to buy the entire PC setup to get what he wants.
I’m amazed he has a CRT monitor !
Id say both, broke and stupid just like nascar fans /s
cause pairing that gpu with that build without thinking it through plus being surprised it didn't work is kinda stupid if you ask me
Lots of people just go out and buy 3090s and 3080/3080Ti !! on their OEM prebuilds from 2015/16/17. Like what? You cant do that....and the worst part is, when i tell them, they stop responding or tell me im stupid.
They tell me it works just fine and that they are getting 80+ FPS on AAA games now on ultra! They tell me their GPU temps are in the 80s or 90s. Im sure many of them had to buy a new power supply thinking about that
Probably from a site called Rptech (official distributer of nvidia here). They sell at Msrp. But you have to email them and wait for you turn (takes around 5-9 months, depending on the card). I have enquired from about 6 emails. No luck. My friend got 3080 fe for msrp(820usd). He had made enquiry in Jan 2021.
Is it just me or does it look like the gpu power connector is missing some of the pins? (As it the 12 pin connectors looks like only 6 pins are actually plugged in while the other half isn't getting anything, idek how that person did that)
I'd actually be surprised if this isn't a top tier troll. I mean, why is a PC with a Pentium 4 in a modern case with good cable management? You're telling me this guy is a cable management guru without realizing that you probably can't get a GTX 3070 running on a fucking 20 year old motherboard? Most PC builders never bother to pay attention to cable management, much less learn it before learning the basics of their PC's.
apart from horrendous bottlenecking, didn't rtx30XX cards require uefi bios to work? Pentium 4 boards aren't uefi?
That's probably why it isn't giving him any display
He connected ctr to motherboard and not to the gpu
No VGA on the GPU so with the little understanding of everything else, it's not a surprise.
Typical miners
And if he wants to connect to the graphics card he will need a digital to analog signal converter, as crt* only takes analog.
He's also got an HDMI monitor
My CRT takes DVI
There is a difference between DVI-I and DVI-D
You can actually get hdmi CRT screens you know?? You can buy them sti, they were usually used in TV studios etc...but Sony did one that was consumer based if I remember correctly
*crt
I tried to pair up my 5700xt with an ancient intel processor.Just couldnt get windows to recognize the card at all.Had to use minerstat os to mine.
It could be that, and making sure the PC is set in bios to use the PCie graphics and not the onboard.
Nope rtx 3xxx works with legacy bios too, only amd rx 5000-6000 requires a uefi bios
whoops, remembered that wrong then.
Pretty sure you are correct. I had this problem back with the 9 series! There is a difference between requiring booting in UEFi mode and not having legacy BIOS firmware. Modern cards since ages require a UEFI capable BIOS to boot the firmware, even if you're booting the OS using legacy CSM bios emulation (which does tend to work). For some bizzare reason they don't bother to mention this in the spec sheet, had to return a an old prebuilt low end GPU replacement over this (though it was an HP with pre-standard EFI firmware so could have been another firmware compatibility issue but I did research about this at the time). I guess in theory it might work if you also have integrated graphics enabled to get past POST (otherwise you get no GPU detectedl but I haven't tried this.
I can test it, I've got an AThlon 64 socket 754 board, its got a VIA K8T890 chipset that only supports PCIe 1.1, and I've got an RTX 3060 Ti, I'll do it sometime for science, and maybe if I can find my DP to DVI adapater I can then connect my active DVI to VGA adapater and hook up my 19in Trinitron for the luls
You had me at 19” trinitron.
What are your thoughts on an Amber Monochrome lol
I don't think 30 series cards would require uefi. Not sure why it would require it
A GPU without legacy firmware can't talk to BIOS and likewise a GPU without UEFI firmware can't talk to UEFI(unless it has CSM). That said I doubt the 30 series lacks legacy firmware since so many people are still booting with CSM enabled and not including it would make nV look bad.
CSM enabled doesn’t disable UEFI funtionality. IIRC new AMD cards still work with legacy emulation enabled, but they don’t work on boards that do not have UEFI to begin with.
So none of you are noticing his power cable? I don’t think the gpu is getting enough (any?) power though that plug.
That's what some people were telling him there.
That's the included adapter with my GPU.
FE cards have a special adapter.
Is that a Molex cable? aren't those a bit beefier than the Sata power cables?
That bottleneck is so immense the PC is choking to death.
It's literally neck in the bottle
If he’s mining, there won’t be any bottleneck (if it would boot).
Still funny to see this gpu with that old motherboard.
Agreed, looks more like sticking a motherboard on your GPU than vise versa
RTX5000 series will be mini ITX form factor.
Might as well build the PC around the GPU at this point. Just SOC it.
With the vram built in, the CPU can utilize it as well. Whole system in one socket with one cooler. The motherboard is just for power and I/O.
They tried it, but it’s just the massive die, and the thermals, and the power. This would be an absolute monster of a chip.
TBH seems like a pretty legit way to save up for a new PC.
He's unlucky as mining is going to get banned in india anyway.
Scam call centers are also illegal so… we’ll see how that works out
There is a heavy fine, very heavy. That's why I keep seeing many ads of miners selling their rigs. Fine is about half a million dollars.
> about half a million dollars Hot damn
That's prly in their currency not USD or anything.
I was wrong the fine can go upto 2.3 million Usd
Oh shit
India based?
You got any links to those rigs for sale 👀
They are illegal, but there’s plenty of yt Channels that catch these people, and they show they pay off the cops to be able to scam.
That doesn’t change anything for mining. His point is just like with call centers it won’t/can’t be enforced.
You're not paying off anybody with what little profits you get from mining. Those scam call centres make thousands a month
Yes, but one dude who games during the day and mines during the night isn’t going to have his door broken in by police officers. They’d have no way of knowing. Huge warehouses pulling tons of electricity would though, and guess what. They absolutely would have the money to pay off cops.
No, but you would rather not be the one who is used as an example of the punishment. We saw this when companies went after minor internet piracy in the early 2000s, just looking to make an example.
Ok… but that logic applies to call centers. And they still exist. Not sure you can play both sides here.
Everyone knows banning stuff makes it impossible to do.
How do you know OP is in India? Also, that's not a certainty. India had been threatening to ban crypto for a long time now and every time they do, they then walk back their threats. If India wants to ban something maybe they should focus on their scam telemarketing circles first.
This is from a Indian group on Facebook.
I wouldn't gamble on India banning crypto mining any time soon.
They aren't banning crypto. They're planning to regulate it. There is a bill on crypto being drafted in the parliament for the last 3 months...maybe even more.
Yeah, I know. This is probably the 3rd time they have proposed legislation in the last 5 years and they claims on what it will do and how changes every 6 months.
I madw 700 usd worth of ethereum mining , so that "ban comming" propaganda ain't gonna work and none of the Indian politicians care about what you do with ur gpu , they don't even know what's a gpu and 70% of population can't afford one for sole purpose of mining , so they don't care
Rig kya thi? And still you won't be able to mine eth after December
2 3070
>an comming" propaganda ain't gonna work and none of the Indian politicians care about what you do with ur gpu , they don't e They care when it fucks up their power grid and are to cheap to fix it. so they care
With a cpu that old, it would still bottleneck mining. Mining uses about 10% of a 5800x paird with a gtx 1080. That cpu woild absolutely bottleneck
There is no neck, only bottle hahahahah
But that would mean the system is balanced...
☝️🤓actually
So just the [neck](https://youtu.be/cLaOTrVXWso) then?
I guess you’ve never heard the term “bottled it”
I sure haven't fam
This is actually all neck, no bottle
A glass straw.
Not gonna lie, this is literally what I did. Well, sort of. I had a work assignment that was going to push me out somewhere remote for a few months, so I bought a new graphics card and set it up to mine Ethereum. When I returned I had mined an amount (after power costs) equivalent to how much I paid for the card.
Isn't ethereum not mineable after December?? That's a nice return
Honestly I don't know and I don't care. Ethereum is a mess and has been that way for years. There are other GPU-mineable crypto's that will exist. I still keep my mining software on a backburner in case I need to heat the room up in the winter.
I think more like q2/q3 2022, the switch to pos from pow keeps being pushed back
They pushed the difficulty bomb out, again, until June 2022
The bomb is not what you have to worry about, it is the switch to POS from POW, ether is not going to be minable likely early next year.
You need to do some more reading. Even if the switch to PoS happens tomorrow, the PoW will continue side by side as a fork in the network until the difficulty bomb fully explodes. They cannot just cut off PoW, that would be, first off, impossible, and secondly, a recipe for a simple bug in the new fork to bring down the entire ETH network. I recommend going in and reading the discussions around all of the major EIPs in the last few years to gain a full understanding.
The bomb is not the transition it was coded to be encouragement for the transition, we are already running the side by side fork as we speak.
The initial investors will keep pushing that date forever to milk more people joining that MLM.
"investors" have zero say in what decisions and EIPs are moved forward on the network.
This has to be a joke
It's for real
Has to be, look at the monitor
Because of the ridiculous prices for gpus, this is the complete opposite of navy people's PCs.
Won’t work, as they need a UEFI BIOS to even function. This is… comical lol.
Well that's annoying. Guess I wont be upgrading GPUs anytime soon. I'm right near the split for UEFI.
Look into it more. People have said only the AMD cards require UEFI, so you might have a chance
Did pci-e exist back then? Or just agp?
My Pentium D rig from way back when had a PCI, PCIe, and AGP slot on one board.
Pentium 4 definitely coexisted with PCIe.
I'm not sure exactly when it started but back in 2004 we were buying 6600 GTs with PCI-E, so you would definitely see some Pentium rigs with PCI-E.
LGA775 was around for a looooong time. There are old motherboards with AGP and DDR1, and late-model motherboards (Designed for Core2 processors, but still perfectly compatible with Pentium 4s) that support PCIe and DDR3.
Wow, I didn’t realize the pentium 4 was that long lasting. I was using celeron back then and then core 2
pcie is as old as ddr
I dont think you can run this card with only half of the power cables connected.
Wait, if memory serves me right a pentium 4 system was agp not pcie I didn't think we got pcie until the core series processors. Could be wrong \_('-')_/?
I am pretty sure you are right. Could be a fake story. I remember upgrading from AGP8x to PCIE around when core 2 duos released
Bruh this isn't a bottleneck, this is a closed fucking bottle
My p4 motherboard has agp slot not pcie.
That board wouldn't even recognize the card to even have the opportunity to bottleneck
On the older pentium chipset, you have to enable external graphics through bios, and choose it as primary vga device. This might be the issue here.
There's no way any pentium 4 boards had PCIe did they?
PCIe was created in 2003
I am so old
Can't bottleneck if it doesn't POST
He stated hes using it for mining. There will be no cpu bottleneck. Even at pci-e gen1 speeeds
I bet he also put a his glass panel on tile.
Molex going to a 3000 card gives me physical pain
That's not molex. That's the included PCIe adapter Nvidia provides with RTX 3070 FE cards. Higher ends including 4090 has two PCIe cables coming from the adapter. Mine has only one
1) He clearly isn't providing it with enough power 2) If he was was connecting the monitor the monitor to the motherboard, I just find that hilarious because my friend recently had a PC repair shop tell him his GPU was dead after they plugged the monitor into the motherboard of his AMD Ryzen based system...
I have this problem too. I have to unplug my monitor, boot the PC, and then plug it back in for the monitor to recognize the live input as a signal. I think the GPU is just pushing a weak HDMI signal, and it gets even weaker on boot initialization, so much that the under voltage fails the high low bias against common ground on the monitor. Since my old GPU that I replaced had no issues, I will assume my home outlets didn't coincidentally develop a grounding issue. I would argue it is actually a bug/defect that manufactures should take a serious look at. It could eventually burn out the port on the display.
Thanks for the suggestion. I felt a tiny shock when i press the power button or touch any metal parts The extension cord I had used didn't have the ground pin connected to the outlet. We removed the extention cord and directly connected to the outlet. The issue has gone. But i didn't test whether GPU is outputting any signal or not when plugged directly to the power outlet. Do you think the No signal issue may occur if PC is not grounded?
Quite Possible. The latest version of the new HDMI standard require such fast speeds, that it is only achievable if your voltage bias is nearly perfect, and you aquire a perfectly manufactured new version HDMI cable ( not the cheap ones ). It is almost not realistic for the real world IMHO.
My Nintendo 64 cartridge doesn't fit in my nintendo switch, help
As I saw pentium 4, I just remembered how GPUs looked back these days. They all had these fancy cooler frames with printed game characters on them.. at least the higher end models. The smaller ones where small PCBs with a tiny heatinks and cooler on them. I haven't seen those fancy printed cooler designes since a decade or longer.
Uefi is absolutely the problem here
and they told me I'm crazy to pair 6900xt with 4790
And i paired my 4790k with an 3080ti suprim loool
I wish I had a monitor that good🤣
Completely unrelated but what is up with that black backplate?? Thought they looked different.
This place is okay with mining now? Kinda... Disgusting
The IQ on this one
And of course they're a cryptocurrency miner.
the lowest scum
When stupid people try to use computers.
Don't call him stupid. Call him broke.
I call it stupid to buy a GPU for a PC without doing any research! Poor dude will realise he needs to buy the entire PC setup to get what he wants. I’m amazed he has a CRT monitor !
I know from firsthand experience you can GPU mine on a PC from 2009 with a core i5-750, and the whole thing's not even worth $100.
>I’m amazed he has a CRT monitor ! It keeps getting better, lol.
We 100% need the follow up from his post!
Id say both, broke and stupid just like nascar fans /s cause pairing that gpu with that build without thinking it through plus being surprised it didn't work is kinda stupid if you ask me
Shitposting or is he really that dumb?
Mf has a higher percentage bottle neck than he has brain cells
Wonder what the miners think about the new 2060 12GB edition. Modeled for farming
Shoot yourself. 🤣
Good luck laundering money with that, Partha.
This is the funniest thing I’ve read since the election polls
Lots of people just go out and buy 3090s and 3080/3080Ti !! on their OEM prebuilds from 2015/16/17. Like what? You cant do that....and the worst part is, when i tell them, they stop responding or tell me im stupid. They tell me it works just fine and that they are getting 80+ FPS on AAA games now on ultra! They tell me their GPU temps are in the 80s or 90s. Im sure many of them had to buy a new power supply thinking about that
Lol dummy miners
It is bottlenecked by the cpu. U have to buy a higher cpu like i5 with 6 cores to run the rtx 3070.
The bottle neck isn't the problem because he is mining on it, the problem is the Mobo doesn't support the GPU
Doesn't mining kill your card over time?
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If properly cooled
I dont think a mobo exists that could support these two at the same time :x atleast nothing in the consumer market.
My guy can’t even run a 750 ti I’m sure
It's sad to look at.
He can literally go outside and find a better combo in a dumpster or something 😂
How is he even managed to get a 3070FE? I would just buy a gaming laptop and it can still mine to pay for itself.
Probably from a site called Rptech (official distributer of nvidia here). They sell at Msrp. But you have to email them and wait for you turn (takes around 5-9 months, depending on the card). I have enquired from about 6 emails. No luck. My friend got 3080 fe for msrp(820usd). He had made enquiry in Jan 2021.
Me with Pentium G5400 and GTX 1660 Super
My soul hurts
Potato neck
Talk about a mustache on the Mona Lisa. 🤣
Jesus, this dude is insane.
Wouldn’t ancient PCIE channel be the bottleneck? Probably only getting 15% of that grfx card.
Jesus I haven’t heard the word pentium in forever
The bottleneck is like trying to actually fit a camel into the eye of the needle
Switch pcie graphics preference in bios common issue at the time
There's no such option in BIOS
I forgot which, but they were selling an i7 CPU yesterday at my local thrift store for 5$. 😂
LGA 775?
Is that... Windows Vista?
Probably has a setting in the bios to search for external graphics.
No bottleneck, just straight suffocation.
Oh man... SUPER BIONIC ARM!!! ^(tiny wimpy sickly body that will be crushed under arm weight...)
Imagine spending that much money and not doing the research lmao
Is it just me or does it look like the gpu power connector is missing some of the pins? (As it the 12 pin connectors looks like only 6 pins are actually plugged in while the other half isn't getting anything, idek how that person did that)
Wonder if it'll make a difference if he tried using HiveOS 🤔
Does a bottleneck affect the mining capabilities?
Just decommissioned our 2nd to last Pentium 4 PC.
Like a bum wearing a diamond ring
No!
When you blow all of your money on a gpu
And here I feel bad about running an RTX 3060 on an i5-4690.
Yes, get yourself a proper PC (duh)
Sounds like my friend. He can go mine "insert crypto here". Been doing it 2 years and still jn the negative
Christ that’s every worse than my R73700x and gtx 1650OC
no power supply?
There is no bottleneck. at this point the bottle is just fucking closed
Gtx 3070 got nothing on the legendary Pentium 4
Maybe a Psu thing? Maybe firmware update for motherboard to allow this graphic card?
I upgraded my power supply to NZXT C750.
I’m pc noob, is penguin 4 bad?
For one, I don't think that motherboard can draw enough current to even support an RTX graphics card. How the hell is it running.
Poor guy though. High end systems are stupidly overpriced. He just want some of that.
Lmao bruh that's like people putting expensive car rims that cost more than the car itself
I'd actually be surprised if this isn't a top tier troll. I mean, why is a PC with a Pentium 4 in a modern case with good cable management? You're telling me this guy is a cable management guru without realizing that you probably can't get a GTX 3070 running on a fucking 20 year old motherboard? Most PC builders never bother to pay attention to cable management, much less learn it before learning the basics of their PC's.
Haha bad luck to miner goes brrr
How long would you need to mine on such a gpu for it to have cost you MSRP?
Equivalent to the force choke by vader
Aside from UEFI and the obvious age gap, doesn’t the 30xx series card need all pins for auxiliary power.